Why is Linux so based?
I dunno. Why?
>>55503301
BECAUSE IT RESPECTS MY FREEDOM!
>>55503313
S-so why ask?
>>55503289
Is that KDE neon or whatever the kids keep calling it these days?
>>55503381
It's Windows + Ubuntu Shell
>>55503337
>T-typing as if st-stuttering
What a fag
>>55503313
No it doesn't. Linux ships with proprietary kernel blobs, so it basically also violates the GPL.
If you want freedom, get GNU Linux-libre.
>running yaourt as root
nigga
>>55503381
Because it's fun to customize
>>55503289
you can watch streams and.. and.. BROWSE FOLDERS
HOOLLLLLY SSHHHHHIIIIIITTTT YEAR OF LINUX GUISE
I honestly, genuinely, nonironically think Microsoft finally surpassed Linux with Windows 10. I now have zero reasons to use Linux, and I've used Linux almost exclusively since 2002 and contributed to few projects, including KDE.
>workspaces
>scroll window contents without focusing
>powershell is actually decent
>bash incoming
>actually good startmenu
>finally appstore
>finally package managing via chocolatey
>modern apps are not all that bad
The only thing triggering me greatly is that Windows still uses CRLF line endings. Really looking forward to Anniversary Update.
>>55504012
>finally appstore
>modern apps
>calling an application "app"
That was the part where it was extremely obvious that you are a shill.
>>55504109
>muh shill
Aaaand this attitude is why I'm not returning to insecure Linux herd any time soon.
>>55503289
>watching someone else play video games because your Linux distro can't run them
>trick2g
should probably noose yourself
>>55504933
>this attitude
How do you even respond to that? You came into a thread that praises linux just to say that windows is better + adding some stupid marketing buzzwords. What exactly do you expect?
>>55503474
another basement-dweller
>>55503289
Because it supports my display light driver, unlike Windows.
>>55503474
The Linux-libre kernel strips the Linux kernel of those blobs and follows mainline Linux quite seamlessly.
>>55503289
Bump, because there's a lot of windows shill threads so it's fair to bump a thread that says something nice about linux.
>>55503474
Who gives a shit
>>55504933
Except astroturfing is a real thing. Blame microsoft, thanks to their dishonest practices now is increasingly hard to believe any positive comment about their products, it's like the boy who screamed wolf.
http://www.stratigery.com/msft.shilling.html
http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html
http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/06/microsoft-caught-astroturfing-reddit-to-praise-xbox-one/
http://techrights.org/2007/11/23/astroturfing-microsoft-examples/
>>55505490
Which makes it free software, unlike vanilla Linux.
You know what I don't get about /g/
You guys love Linux, and love AMD. AMD drivers both proprietary and FOSS are complete shit on Linux. Nvidia drivers are light-years ahead of AMD drivers on Linux.
>>55507729
Nobody cares. Windows 10 is still a solid OS
>>55507765
>generalizing what people says
>>55507765
that's because nobody uses Linux so why waste time developing for it
>>55503936
Actually people these days who don't use computers that much, need basic software like web browser, file browser, multimedia players, and office-like set of software. Prove me wrong.
>>55507784
This doesn't justifies microsoft being anticompetitive though. Different people may like different things and competition is beneficial for the users. It's known that far from compete, microsoft doesn't tolerates competition, they tries to predate any possible competitor.
>>55504012
>appstore
you mean chaos made by microsoft with handling installed programs on system?
>>55507784
It is a solid OS if I look at it objectively, sure. But when I have notifications advertising on my desktop I cannot contain my cynicism
>>55503936
>>55504933
Aaaand this attitude is why I'm not returning to insecure Windows herd any time soon.
>>55504012
>surpassed
>Finally has (some) features gnu plus linux has had for years.
>surpassed
>>55507833
Actually people who don't use computers don't need any of that because, um, they don't use computers.
>>55508145
>the best he can do is twisting what the other person said.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Actually people who is dead don't use computers and considering we're all gonna die then why bother using computers at all?
>>55508224
I really don't even know what you're trying to argue, that people need basic computer functions? I'm not sure where anyone ever implied otherwise.
>>55504012
It finally stole some features from Linux and Mac that it was missing for years.
And it STILL hasn't surpassed either.
If anything, Windows has just gotten worse. Every time I use W10 it's an awful experience. Advertisements in the start menu, advertisements in the lockscreen, "notifications" that are actually just advertisements, notifications for apps I never installed and never use, all of which needs to be disabled manually. Way too much spam. It just feels like I'm using one gigantic piece of malware.
>>55508260
They said "people who don't use computers that much" still need basic software like web browsers and word processors. You turned around and responded like they said "people who don't use computers at all".
>>55508327
Yeah, well dumb posts get dumb responses. You also happen to seem dumb. Anyway, last (You) I'm giving you, so don't squander it.
>>55508287
you're literally just making shit up just to shit on Windows. there are no advertisements in the lock screen and you there are settings for the notifications
>>55508373
>no advertisements in the lock screen
http://www.howtogeek.com/243263/how-to-disable-ads-on-your-windows-10-lock-screen/
>there are settings for the notifications
see>>55508287
>all of which needs to be disabled manually
Way too much work has to go into making your shitty manchild OS into a functional overpriced gaming rig (admit it, gaming is why you're so gay for Windows). Just get a gaming console, retard.
>>55508373
LOOK AT ALL THIS FUCKING GARBAGE MATE
>>55503289
>based
>>55505018
lol
>>55508461
You can remove that stuff easy
>>55505018
>>55508514
It's pasta but:
Not him but the no games argument is not true anymore. Windows is the best os for gaming mostly due to most game developers are trained into developing for it with microsoft's closed APIs, so the simple process of porting a game that was developed for windows to any other platform will affect negatively the performance of the game. This with the fact that the marketshare is small compared to windows there's hardly an incentive at the moment to optimize for linux, making look as if the platform were worse for games than windows when in fact to flip the situation you'll need to change the idiosyncrasies on the industry itself.
The fact though is that the situation on linux is not nearly the same than two years ago and now those who prefer linux over windows now can play games on it, helping to break the vicious circle, but still there's a lot of things to do for linux to compete in the gaming side. I anyone wants for this to change i recommend to play the games you can on linux when possible and ask for linux ports.
I notice some people doesn't want's for this to happen but if that the case let me ask (not directed specifically to the person i'm replying): how are any of you benefited in a meaningful way with the current situation? because i consider that keeping the statu quo just to have a tool to win an argument on what OS is better is not a meaningful thing. how having less options and practically being locked to MS products benefits you?
Some links:
https://steamdb.info/linux/
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?category1=998&os=linux
https://www.youtube.com/user/tuxreviews/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/airspeedmph
https://www.youtube.com/user/Jakejw93/videos
>>55508573
that's what he said.
You have to manually remove all this crap.
>>55508477
This, I objectively agree.
>>55508604
I just want to mention it because it is a far underrated project: wine still exist.
I had a friend who wanted to get into mtg, so to test if it would work, I installed the intro game (duals of the planeswalkers), through a steam client through wine.
It just worked, so I gave him that recommendation.
Some times you run into problems, but other times it just works.
A complaint I often hear is microsoft office, which also just works with wine.
>>55504012
Now that Windows is finally a proper telescreen it's time to switch to it after 14 years!
>>55508357
My mother isn't quite tech because of her age, but still, she uses email software and office software to look some documents from work, or web browser to see recipies online and other entertainment. Because using laptop is just easier for her than smartphone.
>>55508953
>>55508990
NICE FIX
>>55509021
I've just lowered the height
Cuz it just werks.
>>55508990
Yeah why not, bring windows 95 style back, you 4chan minimalists
>>55503289
>he fell for the desktop linux meme
>>55508604
Can you play Overwatch yet? Witcher 3? Civ 5?
Thought so.
>>55509082
I have a GPU passthrough set up for the occasional game I play that does not have GNU/Linux support. I rarely have to boot it up though.
>>55503289
damn that nigga's room is blue as hell
tfw had a few times sex in my live wich makes me unable to use the terminal or linux more deeply ;_;
>>55509312
I gave up on having girlfriend because I want to be GNU/free
>>55503289
>>55509434
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>55509082
First, if you set the conditions like that you'll obviously gonna win, let me set more fair conditions: do linux users have a good catalog of games available natively on their platform?
Second, you didn't even got right your argument: civ 5 has a linux native version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvH4l8xnUxs
>>55503423
Yes! Why is this everywhere? It bugs me to no end. What's the point of sp-speaking like a r-retard online?
>>55511067
A-anime, b-baka
>>55505018
underrated
>>55503289
it isn't.
and i have tlslite-ng .6.0a3 installed
Not getting spied on is pretty great. Plus I feel like I have so much more control over the powerful machine I spent hundreds of dollars on. Plus it makes you learn how computers work to a degree. This is so fucking awesome, I'm a free man.
>>55503289
>trying to multitask on a 1366x768 display
how cute
>>55511463
pip isn't linux you fucking retard.
>>55503474
The GPL doesn't cover firmware
>>55511463
>pip
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
serves you right for swallowing the python community's steaming shits
>>55503474
I use the libre grsec kernel with Arch but I am lucky because I don't need proprietary drivers.
>>55503289
nice
What do you do if you want to play a game or something of the sort?
>>55511938
What GPU do you use?
>>55512007
I'm on Intel HD Graphics. Laptop.
>>55508461
hey the bing apps are great
![reiromano[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/wv5RjxF.png "reiromano[1].png")
>>55508604
>the no games argument is not true anymore
lol
>>55513181
hey kill yourself
>>55513199
not an argument
>it's a linux thread
>screenshot of the user doing fuck all, just updating his OS and watching other people doing shit
>>55513249
>he doesn't use the latest software available
Do you enjoy having security holes in your computer?
>>55503289
>twitch
ISHYGDDT
>>55513194
>>the no games argument is not true anymore
True. I love Moon Lander.
I don't like Net Hack, though.
>>55513249
Take your autism somewhere else, manchild
>>55503289
>mfw it's always faggots posting their shitty riced out virtual machine desktops
No one except for edgy autists actually use Linux desktop for anything.
>>55503289
>desktop environment
Ew
>>55513447
does it play doom? mgsv? hitman?
>>55513538
>Doom
>MGSV
>Hitman
Good job cherry-picking shitty console ports :^)
>Trick
I only watch mature streamers for mature people such as myself, like Forsen and Reckful.
>>55513905
>Relevance
Maybe user review score would have been better. Why doesn't steam have a “well-reviewed recent games” sorting option? (e.g. score / age)
>>55503289
There's no reason to use livestreamer on Linux. mpv, and probably Baka (although I'd switch to standard mpv, it's pretty glorious) integrate with youtube-dl you can just do open a video or stream from terminal anyways.
>>55514409
This.
>>55513905
so no
>playing DOOM with controller :)))))
>>55514578
see >>55510911
also:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/feral-interactive-are-teasing-another-new-linux-mac-port-with-a-new-clue.7272
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/hitman-looks-like-its-coming-to-steamos-linux.7384
>>55511067
They're riffing off the common anime trope of ultra-timid female characters who stutter because "so kawai desu".
If anime isn't your thing then I suggest you get comfortable with constant anime references or go find a different image board because 4chan may not be for you.
>>55514578
>>55514613
It never fails to amuse me how id tech games are all written using OpenGL but the developers still release them as Windows-only even though the code is literally already portable and cross-platform.
It would probably be a single day's work for a single developer to port it to Linux, yet they don't. Microsoft marketing deal, anyone?
>>55514700
>Microsoft marketing deal, anyone?
It could be, open technologies are more attractive due to not tying you to one platform but i'ts well known that companies like MS or Nvidia needs to pay developers constantly to adopt their exclusive technologies. Valve for example doesn't needs to do this because regardless of if they inject loads of money or not the open technologies will continue to exist because they're used by other parties. This is why i think in the log run probably companies who invest on linux (for example) will win on the long run.
>>55503289
HOLY SHIT you can watch a fuckin stream _AND_ have a console open at the same TIME!
WINDOWS SHILSL BTFO YEAR OF LINUX DESKTOP!!!!!1111111
>>55515261
C U C K E D
A G A I N,
W I N C U C K S
>>55514700
>It would probably be a single day's work for a single developer to port it to Linux
please, corporate support for Linux would be a literal nightmare.
![1427785334409[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/XD0b2tG.png "1427785334409[1].png")
>>55514613
>Why do people use windows?
>oh, well, if you ignore that, and that, and... that, then why????
Lincucks are so delusional it's delicious
>>55505018
Rekt/10
>>55511067
>to no end
They're disgusting faggots that watch way to much anime
>>55503289
BASED KDE
>>55508680
wine sucks
>>55515754
looks like shit
>Hamburger menu
>>55515755
Now that's the good shit. Why are slackware deploys generally well put together...?
>>55504012
>all dat salt from desperate red hat shills
>>55515639
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime
>>55515663
>Linux has no games!
>oh, well, if you ignore that, and that, and... well, i guess it has, but i don't like any of them!
>>55515798
Get your glasses changed blind cuck
>>55515860
>just use this single proprietary solution
so we're back where we started...
>>55515943
lol, fuck off stormkiddo
>>55513194
Yeah it is. How do you game on linux? I'm not a huge gamer but I play with battlenet. I see no linux support.
inb4 wine or VM
>>55515972
2 wordz
PCIE
PASSTHROUGH
>>55515971
lmao go fun yourself herpderp :-DDDDDDD
>>55515983
oh there you go.something totally out of the way. I like linux. I used it for years. but it doesnt do everything windows does.
and yes dual booting works. but you're stilling using Windows
>>55516007
fyi I'm agreeing w/you
>>55516001
oh wow did you get that picture from reddit?
>>55507784
>solid OS
yeah, if you don't mind being tracked to hell and back lmao
>>55516058
protip, it's all voluntary and can be disabled
>>55516071
>disabled
Enterprise version do not have mail apps
>>55516086
it's getting software updates the horror
>>55516071
protip: it shouldn't have to be, not to mention that it's all done without your knowledge anyway. the average user wouldn't know without looking it up.
>>55516106
Kid, its 2016, the average user would want the shit like Cortana enabled anyway. If you know what you're doing then it can literally all be disabled from a single screen in the OOBE, where it clearly states what each option does
>>55515957
>proprietary
Man, you just proved that you don't know what you're talking about.
>>55516102
Updates are not possible without telemetry.
>>55516086
this is the best one thats posted because after 10 seconds all of the traffic isnt going to microsoft but something 100% caused by the user
>>55516158
>>55516086
Also, same EULA holds for Enterprise version. It's doing what it's supposed to
>>55516181
>Inb4 connections are explained
2000 of the connection attempts was not explained in the blog that MS employee wrote.
Rajesh can stop trying hereby
>>55516136
you're missing the point and are obviously retarded, good day
>>55516181
you realize that those emails and private folders they talk about are related to using microsofts mail service and shit like onedrive, right? you know, just like every other company out there?
grow a fucking brain
>>55516158
oh no it's sending your computer specs to MS the horror
>>55516216
Re-read >>55516086 retard
>>55516216
>violating your human rights is okay because other companies are doing it too
>>55516207
year of Linux desktop never
>>55516227
and? you think the eula is changed between versions of windows? that shit is literally based on using outlook and shit. and the personal info stuff is related to using the dumb windows store apps just like a phone. you are a fucking tool
>>55516225
I like how quickly you admit there are active telemetry service even when you disabled them.
>>55516241
Telemetry yes, spying on personal data no
>>55516229
>turning over stuff stored on their servers to police when asked
>violating human rights
you try way too hard.
>>55516216
>Still supporting a company with a well known terrible record of screwing their users and being anticompetitive.
Microsoft is like the boy who cried wolf except some people believes microsoft each time as if nothing happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUbtbjJaVnI
>>55516238
I can't argue with someone who suffers so much from denial syndrome.
>>55503289
fuck you
>>55516261
>screwing their users and being anticompetitive
doesn't make Linux any more useable unfortunately...
>>55516249
I'd rather have no keylogger in my computer, so no.
>>55516233
Because MS already lost on all the other markets, so it's understandable that they tries to protect their monopoly on the desktop by any means. see >>55507729
>>55516282
Ok good thing that has nothing to do with keylogging though
>>55516250
>police
>when asked
I see you didn't actually bother to read the image
>We share personal data among Microsoft-controlled affiliates and subsidiaries.
>We also share personal data with vendors
Friendly reminder: “affiliates” is legal slang for “advertising and data brokering companies”.
>>55516262
again, you seem to be purposefully ignoring the fact that is related to storing emails and data on microsoft folders such as outlook and onedrive. you think microsoft is going to hand over your gmail or whatever the fuck you use emails?
at least form a fucking thought when responding instead of regurgitating the same bullshit you saved in another thread
>>55516280
>doesn't make Linux any more useable unfortunately...
Except this is just your opinion and i consider you're completely wrong.
>>55516292
Or perhaps Linux is just a shit desktop platform for 98% of users
>>55516296
see >>55516262
You are outed
Keep trying like >>55516305 everyone ITT knows full well who are in denial
>>55516300
that is the shit you give them willingly when you sign up for dumb apps and shit. they dont know your real name unless you give it to them
>>55516305
>the fact that is related to storing emails and data on microsoft folders such as outlook and onedrive
this doesn't happen unless you use Outlook, and I don't even know why you mentioned Onedrive lol
>muh cloud service is storing my data on remote servers!!!
kys to be h
>>55516305
>>55516322
see >>55516071
because obviously there isn't any context sourrounding that unirnoically cherrypicked sentence :^)
>>55516071
>Human rights violations are okay if you benefit in some trivial way from them
>>55516369
it's not a human rights violation lol
if anything KDE and GNOME are crimes against humanity
>>55516322
show the exact part of the statement where that is said. the page groups it by tiers and that exact quote is not in the page, which means it is a subset of a particular statement.
since you obviously have done your research and are not just acting like a /g/ tool, show me exactly where that quote comes from for real context.
i am looking for it myself
>>55516318
maybe, but i'll keep betting that is good for most people, i have recommended it to a lot of people who doesn't know anything about computers and they're happy right now, so my own experience contradicts your opinion completely.
>>55507765
Have you ever used Linux with AMD? In all of my experience the open source drivers work great.
>>55516337
that is literally what i was saying, what the hell are you talking about?
>>55516106
It should be done with your knowledge. It was right there in black and white in the EULA.
>>55503289
what file manager and gtk theme?
>>55516390
sure but your own experience certainly goes against the overall marketshare tho
>>55516415
Outlook and OneDrive are not Windows, retard
>>55516262
but that isnt what it says, it actually says exactly what i and anyone else with a brain assumes
>>55516433
they are microsoft services, and that is a microsoft privacy statement not a windows privacy statement you fucking idiot
>>55516385
>the page groups it by tiers and that exact quote is not in the page
Not him but pic related, now the only problem is what microsoft considers as "good faith". It would be easier if microsoft were know as a company with good business practices, the real problem here is their record. Trust them if you want, it's your computer after all.
see >>55516352
>>55516468
okay but we are talking about windows here kiddo
>>55516479
Good faith is a legal term and arguable in court.
MS has no reason to leak personal information
>but muh advertisers
they already have an anonymous method to do that
>>55516480
you realize that the original picture posted above is taken out of context and literally just bait, right? what is wrong with your brain?
>>55516479
so dont use outlook and dont use onedrive, problem fucking solved. you think microsoft is going to personally upload your hard drive to police? be fucking realistic
>>55516502
what picture
>>55516502
>>55516493
Just trust them then, there's evidence and there's what microsoft states by themselves, it's clear for me that you completely agree with their terms, so go for it.
>>55516550
the thing is there isn't any actual evidence
and yes, it would be pretty stupid for a company to willfully lie in its TOS
>>55516584
>the thing is there isn't any actual evidence
I'm not referring to evidence of what is transferred to microsoft servers, that's encrypted and only ms knows what's happening there. I'm referring to their known actions in the past and present and what's written on their terms. You already read and analyzed their terms an checked their record and came to your own conclusion that microsoft deserve to be supported according to your interpretation on the evidence. Regarding that there's no more to discuss.
>>55516381
>harvesting private user data on a mass scale and selling it to advertising companies + distributing it to secret services through illegal means is not a gigantic violation of human rights
Keep swallowing their shit, maybe one day it will finally kill you
>>55505018
B T F O
T
F
O
>>55515755
hot
>>55516667
what known actions exactly? MS may have been anti-competitive back in the 3.1 days, but there's nothing to suggest then or now that they're invading piracy
>>55516679
Nothing they're doing is illegal, are you on crack?
>>55520445
>the NSA's clandestine operations are entirely constitutional, legal and well-known to the public
Does microsoft purposely bash all of their employees over the head to make them as dumb as possible, or what?
>people butthurt because win 10 will spy on them
bad news people, if you use any government infrastructure, or your connection passes through, while doing your internet things, you're open for tracking and spied upon. any linux kernel that you didn't compile it yourself is also likewise unsecure.
write your own OS and never connect your computer to any network. you never know what horrors may lie in your motherboard, your bios or your network chip/card. keep it in a faraday cage just in case.
>>55520669
might as well not use the internet at all if you're that paranoid
>>55508573
Windows 10 is such shit
>"you can remove and restore (almost) everything ezpz, just 5 hours of customization till its usable"
Linux is actually quite comfy
>"OMG BUT YOU HAVE TO CUSTOMIZE IT FIRST FOR SO MANY HOURS LEL FREETARDS GTFO"
The mysteries of whats going on inside windows cucks mind. I know you are maybe not one of these people, but I see this SO OFTEN lately.
>>55508514
>>55511387
>>55515700
>>55518180
WHAT IS A DUALBOOT?
BABY EDUCATE ME,
EDUCATE ME,
SOME MORE.
>>55508514
>>55511387
>>55515700
>>55518180
>>55521895
WHAT IS VIRTUALIZATION?
BABY EDUCATE ME,
EDUCATE ME,
SOME MORE.
I know this one fits even worse than the previous one, but you guys are just so fucking uneducated.
