What is it about autism that makes people refuse to move on from the past?
>>55420475
the autistic part
>>55420475
Autistic here. It causes people like me to have huge negative reactions to the smallest of changes. I've had therapies over the years to help me internalize it, but I still get a huge shiver down my spine whenever I see a huge change in something. Think of it as the fight or flight sense going off about every potential "confrontation".
I know that's a bullshit description, but it's the best one I can give.
>>55420514
I can tell you're serious about being autistic because you gave such a serious response to bait.
>>55420475
Linux is a kernel not an OS you do not belong in this board.
>>55420548
>Linux is a kernel when it suits me
>>55420475
>Linux in 1993
>Gentoo
Couldn't find an old picture?
>>55420594
>picture
>of ancient linux
>>55420475
>XML wasn't around until 1996
>Gentoo wasn't around until 2002
>Bash 4.0 wasn't around until 2009
0/10
>>55420618
cameras were a thing already in 1993
>>55420475
The only thing right about the picture is that the actual VT code in Linux isn't to different of the 1993 one.
>>55420514
Installing systemd will cure your autism.
>>55420514
Didn't expect to see a serious response here, but this actually gave me great insight into your mind, thank you anon
>>55420653
>Let me take a photo of a random terminal in 1993, take a trip to the drive through at the local CVS to drop off the film to develop, come back to pick it up in a few days/hours, then wait a few years, scan it, and photoshop it into meme image.
You must be underage.
windows 3.1 looks comfy
>>55420591
No it just is.
>>55420475
can't believe im replying
but look opie, ui can be customized in linucks,
you can make it be normie like or tiling, or whatever you want, e.g. noone uses command line for everything
even I use gui for browsers
you can't compare linux to windows because linux allows you to choose and have whatever you want
windows doesn't, you're forced to use what they have
>>55421017
>windows doesn't, you're forced to use what they have
kek
>>55420475
Don't blame Autism for stupidity.
Is linux only a /g/ meme or do people actually use it in real life (not counting niche applications such as servers)?
Both windows and mac have worked to optimize their OS's to keep up with the current technologies and though both have their faults, they each have progressed over the year.
Linux however seems like it's stuck in the mud. Why do people feel the need to reinvent the wheel and face the same obstacles as users faced literally decades ago.
It would be akin to a car manufacturer going back to the scratch board to redesign fuel injectors each year.
>>55421606
I use it in real life. It has most the application I need and it's a better development platform than windows (except C#, but that doesn't matter)
>>55421606
Linux is ahead in technology, Mac and Windows just pour a lot of sugar for normies over it to make it seem decent
>>55420475
Weak troll attempt / 10
>>55420594
kek
>>55421606
I use it in real life on my desktop, only booting into Windows for Photoshop or autocad.
Ubuntu is by far the most practical os for machine learning, but I'm guessing you'll count that as a niche use.
Gpu drivers and whatnot can be tricky sometimes but I don't think I'm really " facing the same obstacles as people decades ago", that's just arch users.
>>55420591
No, Linux is just a fucking kernel. How retarded are you?
>>55420475
>1993
>portage
It seems guibabbies haven't evolved either.
>>55420475
I miss 3.1.
>>55420475
Windows was shit, at least it was evitable back then.
>>55420475
Come back when you can actually make a folder named "COM" with your piece of shit explorer of yours, pajeet
>>55423071
The*
>>55421606
I use Linux as my daily driver. Unlike the people who claim Linux is broken and windows works, I've had the opposite experience.
>>55423159
You are not really the uncommon. /v/ spills are very vocal during summer
Just to let you know..
Windows back then and now.
ah and.. don't forget the bluescreens, but you're right, they look much prettier now than before.
>>55424306
Stop teasing my nostalgiaboner, you slut
>>55422955
A kernel is an operating system since it manages memory and hardware :^)
>>55421606
<1% market share
>>55421606
IIRC O'reily's POS system is all linux based. Generally linux/unix is used in businesses because you can have a custom tailored OS for your business.
>>55424618
It's 2% now :^)
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/07/linux-marketshare-reaches-2-percent
2016 YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP
OP. You are comparing GUI vs CLI and are making yourself look like an idiot. The windows side should be showing DOS or CMD [even though CMD isn't a DOS environment it's the closest Windows 7 has to offer].
If it's autism to be afraid of change then what would you call someone who needs constant change?
Serious question here.
>>55420514
/thread
To be fair, GNU/Linux has moved quite a bit forward since it was initially developed. Even in non-desktop applications.
Also, since the screenshot is from a terminal session, you might as well be comparing DOS from 1993 with the shitty terminal included in Windows 7.
>>55421606
Linux is used, but actually as desktop OS is absolutelly irrelevant. It's not because normies hate it or something like that, only unix wasn't relevant in desktop to begin. Linux was a late player in a platform where DOS/Windows and Mac where King and Queen, respectively. The balcanization tendencies of open sores doesn't help the situation.
>>55421606
>>55420591
You know to what OP is refering. :^)
>>55423071
Come on when you can compile software written 20 years ago without problems, Mohandas.
>>55421606
In the job I work in (Java programmer) most people in my team use Ubuntu, in the job before that (c++ dev) it was about 50/50, but the remote dev machines we connected to over ssh all had RHEL installed.
>>55424863
A hipster
>>55424230
I was just about to post something like this. OP is retarded
>Windows 7 is 7 years old
>>55420677
>Cancer cures autism
>>55420514
How about small changes? Nothing really big.
>>55420867
MSDOS and Windows 98 were the comfiest things of my youth
>>55424230
>>55421606
>niche applications
>such as servers
>>55425142
Works fine here :^) Probably because I know how to read unlike a computer illiterate hindu like you :-DDDD
Back to >>>/i/ndia
>>55424230
Unity in 2009? No
>>55420475
>1993
>bash 4.0
You FAIL, microshill.
>>55420514
>>55421606
Your typical /g/ retard, everyone.
>>55424230
>>55426335
:^)
>>55424531
By that logic, early versions of Windows weren't operating systems since that low-level management was provided by DOS.
>>55426265
My peepee shrinks to half-size when a different team than mine wins the super bowl
t. Autistic basement-dwelling patriots fan
>>55420475
the problem is that Windows development was always focused on the end user(i'm ignoring Windows server here), while Linux(+GNU) development is focused on creating a multipurpose OS to suit many needs(server, desktop, embedded systems, computing clusters, etc)
>>55420475
I dont know. Linux is simply better and faster and yet people cling to malware ridden adware that is windows, and stupid remakes of old games. I just got back from fixing a laptop that got its AV ,camera and power management rekt by windows 10 stupid forced upgrades.
Turn this shit on , it boots normally and fast , connect to internet - 15 minutes of 99% disk usage for "system processes", laptop unusable in that time.
>>55420514
t. falseflag
Everyone in this thread is wrong and here's why:
Linux is a kernel and a kernel doesn't have any graphical userinterface.
>>55430763
does it have a command line interface? i mean can you communicate with it without bash or core utils etc? Is it even real? am i real?
>>55430822
I don't think it has an actual CLI, otherwise why would you need bash? Presumably it has an API, but any program that allows you to interact with the API would be a separate CLI shell.
>>55430763
The funny fact is that doesn't chage nothing. GNU/Linux uses the same tech of 10 years ago to got a GUI.
>>55431601
It also works fine on 10 y.o. hardware, and is compatible with old peripherals. Also how is age of tech relevant to anything , C is 40+ years old and used nowadays with some changes. Does it mean its bad? Is math bad because its old? Is wheel bad? What the fuck?
>>55431697
The problem that X.org has is that is old and also a steaming piece of shit.
Do you want to run X.org in your machine in the next 30 years?
The code is so fragile an crappy that if two key developers die, X.org is fucked.
>>55420542
I don't think this is bait anon...there is something very wrong about the Linux community.
>>55431697
Programming languages are completely different to implemented software when it comes to age.
>>55423159
So full of shit.
>>55425125
Nobody will ever care about GNU. They wish they were Torvalds.
>>55421606
>Linux however seems like it's stuck in the mud.
Its not, and you couldn't actually back this up.
>>55431769
Thank God Wayland will be a thing
what a shitty bait
even in 1993 X was already available, twm was probably the first wm used in Linux
>>55432024
>Xfree86
>1993
OH MY GOD, THAT FUCKING NIGHTS, THAT HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE NIGHTS
>>55424618
>free stuff
>having only 1% of the market
And that's why the goyim are animals.
>>55431769
>The code is so fragile an crappy that if two key developers die, X.org is fucked.
>xorg
>freedesktop
>red hat
Nah, they have tons of developers available, Red Hat is on par with MS or Apple
Worst case scenario theyll make a systemd of graphic interfaces, but thats what wayland is becoming anyway
>>55421606
Yes, as a software developer, I use it every day. And no, software development isn't a niche application. I'm slowly transitioning to using Linux as my everyday OS just because I'm so sick of stupid shit in Windows like explorer.exe crashing when it tries to access a network share that has gone down.
>>55431769
i actually use wayland on fedora gnome. And i see no wrong with xorg too, last time i had problems with it was when using ubuntu 8-10 ,and when i wanted to upgrade nvidia drivers on arch without setting dkms before. Its performance is not extremly shit to the point of constant breaking, and it will be needed as a dependency for some time. You can be angry about it because you need your game performance fast, but wayland is here if you are willing to ditch X this badly. Xorg may be bad from developers view but to end user its okay'ish , at least no normie told me that unity/gnome is sluggish.
>>55432044
Don't pretend X wasn't always terrible, because it was (and still is)
>>55421606
I use it as the exclusive OS on my desktop and laptop.
>>55432101
What did you understand anon?
>>55420475
xml didnt even exist in 1993 you idiot. get a real screenshot
>>55430822
Sort of.
There's the magic system request key, which I guess is a (very limited) shell. It lets you set the console log level, reboot, crash the system, send various signals to all processes, run the OOM killer, unmount file systems, and a bunch of other stuff, depending on precicely how you've configured it. As far as I know, as long as you can access a VTY, serial console, or the /proc/sysrq-trigger file, you can directly communicate with the kernel.
ITT: people hate linux because they cant ditch windows because of:
>games
>professional software without a license that you really need on that home pc
>fear of cli
really though, just being able to browse the net without having to have an active AV, windows defender prompts , and around 5 different autostart updaters.
Not having to deal with automatic updates and manually installing new drivers/software, and software in general for literally hours is a big deal to me. There are alternatives to most software if you need it for hobbyst use,
Im not telling anyone to yell at their boss to change their workstation to linux if they need some software thats not on it.
>>55432305
>implying that everyone wants to left Windows
That beautiful projection.
>>55432336
>wants to left
go back to work pajeet.
If windows was so great i wouldnt have to fix everyones "slow PeecCees broken by viruses from games" and donate the little money i they give me to my favorite distro/projects.
>>55432534
Windows is great. Those problems are entirely end user and marketshare problems that would be just as prevalent if linux were mainstream and everyone logged in as root or used sudo with no regard to security to install their 1337 game cracks. Deal with it freetard.
>>55430763
when you boot the machine, it goes straight to console
and it can function as an OS as-is -- pass your program as the init, done
stallman seems to have the weirdest idea of what an OS is, one that never gained traction outside of 80s academia
>>55427491
Of course they fucking weren't. They were little more than GUIs.
>>55432618
this is simply wrong based on this scientific research: 3 out of 3 pcs i had installed ubuntu on for someone with an explanation on how to install/upgrade software are getting no complaints aside from one laptop that needed some packages to play drm protected DVDs on Lubuntu. And people who use them cannot really tell apart a web browser and search engine.
Actually scaring people into thinking about if they should install something and making the process "you need something - you install something" instead of "you see something on the net - you install something" is having good results.
Also im not a freetard actually, i just like using linux.
There is literally nothing great about windows itself, and its a pain to use , it just has the most software and is forced on to new pcs.
>>55420514
They're making it way too easy for people to diagnose themselves as autistic nowadays
>>55432814
Are you really this fucking retarded? It's about market share. If desktop Linux was as popular as Windows, you can sure as hell bet there would be tons of malware written for it and retards would just enter their root password at the drop of a hat, or get hit with ransomware since all it needs is access to the user's personal files anyway.
>>55432912
you dont understand. Malware affects windows for one main reason: you install software from random sites. Here is where the package manager comes - you install software from a repository that is maintained either by the creator of the OS - or - in a situation where a single linux would have alot of market share - by software developer. So you possibly cannot install malware unless the developer created in on purpose and the maintainer would accept it without multiple antivirus scans after some time of testing. As i said, it basicly encourages people by default to install only what they need safely.
This is the most basic difference between a linux distro and windows in term of usage. sure there would be alot of people writing malware that would atack the system through plugins and web browsers and stuff like that, but then again you have what you didnt had on windows for long years - real user account control. It will simply not rekt any system files if the user wont enter the root password. This is still not really implemented on windows well enough. As for people who pirate shit from stupid sources, well there is no cure for stupid poor people is it? No best antivirus can help when a 11 y.o. is trying to get that super game and cant be bothered to read the alerts.
>>55432912
also if you think its a problem of market share consider this: malware could do a lot more damage / be more profitable if it focused powerful servers, data bases and supercomputers. Because those are machines that provide the most calculating power , and have most valuable information on them. Most of those appliances run on linux/unix , but a marginal part of them gets attacked successfully. Market share argument is as retarded as the nothing to hide argument.
all change is progress blaaaaaahhhhh im the fuckin OP
>>55422955
didn't linus himself say to refer to the OS as Linux? kill yourself
>>55420475
Comfort and Security.
>>55420475
>xml
>gentoo
>1993
lolsto?
gentoo came out 11 years later, xml wasn't released until 96
>>55421606
Summer is here
>>55427307
Am I the only one who likes Unity? Seems pretty nice to me.
>>55420865
Digital cameras existed in 93, are you underage?
>>55428708
2016 instead ubuntu, it should be mint, since its the very popular on this year
>>55421606
Linux has had a lot of major improvements in the past few years.
>>55428708
you skipped over 1998, with the blue screen on the left and the console on the right
>>55432101
>That software that every Unix system uses all the time and doesn't cause any outright problem is terrible hahaha let's just say it is to look cool and not provide any explanation hahaa don't we allo agree that it's terrible guy? it's so terrible lol fuck x. no other alternative but still, fuck it LOL : ^)
why does /g/ keep doing this? it's all the time with you guys. systemd, kde, x, gtk, even gcc sometimes. You have very specific opinions on why shit that just werks is terrible and you act like it's all agreed upon by everyone.
>>55434711
Nobody owned a digital camera for home use in 1993. Even shitty webcams weren't a thing.
>>55433122
this.
However attacking servers/supercomputers/clusters is useless unless you have a lazy "sysadmin" in charge of the system
>>55432814
>windows has the most software
because M$ does an effort to keep stable kernel and user mode APIs to develop. (GNU+)Linux don't, the devs keep changing APIs because (i don't like the current one so let's make a new one i like, f*ck the devs) and userspace software keeps changing too.
The day (GNU+)Linux developers standardize their APIs and make them stable we could see more apps being ported to Linux.
>>55435617
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>55431872
I have two laptops, under windows 10 the touchpad in one and the bluray drive in the other isn't recognized. Official drivers were installed for both. With Linux, they both just work. Try again.
>>55421606
all my computers run it, with the exceptions of my LAN machine and VM's
>>55426160
>windows 7 is as old as xp was when it came out
and I keep thinking it's still a modern OS
>>55433040
>implying you can't install software outside or repos
>>55434711
Gameboy camera doesn't count
>>55420514
That does not touch the root problem. I believe it's something related to critical parenting events in very young years
>1993
>xml
>>55421606
>servers
>niche
>>55420475
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>55421606
>>55438280
Thank you /v/
Kek
