>The Reference Sapphire RX 480'S PCB/Backplate will have cutouts where the hot air would escape instead of sideways.
>Also the fans will be easy to swap, it has its own RMA if loud coil whine occurs.
>Will Use 8PIN instead of 6pin
>It has 2 DisplayPorts, 2 HDMI (Which is great for VR devices) and 1 Dual Link DVI
Thoughs? Seems interesting.
>>55347371
price u pajeet shill
>>55347371
NO DRIVERS
Looks pretty cool.
I figured Sapphire would do something special considering their partnership with AMD.
Sapphire is based as fuck.
>2 DisplayPorts
I'd rather have 3.
>2 HDMI (Which is great for VR devices)
You only need one. How is this in any way great?
>1 Dual Link DVI
>
>>>
Who even uses that shit anymore?
Seems they fixed all the problems and even added a cheese grinder, if it's <250 I'm sold
Looks nice
>>55347371
i'll get 2 for my matx rig
it's just a perfect dream
>>55347371
Sapphire always make the best AMD cards, so it should be good.
>reference card overclock like 5%
>gets like 15% increase on performance
why people aren't talking about it
the 8pin version will be KILLERS, i'm saving my money for a sapphire version
>>55347508
that cooler is making me anxious
>>55347527
i'm even more surprised they don't charge a premium like evga does with their superclocked supercharged supercucked version
>>55347482
This. Hopefully it's still safely in the $200-$250 range
>>55347567
i just wanted a meme double shroud fan and i got it pretty cheap 4 years ago. it's actually perfect more it's purpose
yea i know it looks ricer transformer as fuck but well it just works.
does any of you have a tip on how to polish the top aluminum layers?
>>55347482
Day one buy if it's $250 or less no question.
>>55347500
I miss their old design.
>>55347568
You sure?
Lowest price for each chip vs lowest Sapphire price on PCPP.
MSI R9 390 - $279.99
Sapphire R9 390 - $318.99
XFX R9 390X - $329.99
Sapphire R9 390X - $416.99
>>55347371
My thoughts is that i should've picked up their 390 last week when it dropped to £219. Once benchmarks got released they shot back up in price. I'm never gonna fall for the "wait" meme ever again.
>>55347371
Looks very understated which is nice. It has RGB LED's but you can turn them off. I'm hoping they will illuminate the back ports myself so I can see where the fuck I am inserting shit in my dimly lit room. My case has no window so it would not matter if they were on anyhow.
>>55347652
>I'm hoping they will illuminate the back ports myself so I can see where the fuck I am inserting shit in my dimly lit room.
FUND IT.
>>55347371
The fan RMA is brilliant imo. The PCB cutout to flow through is slightly gimicky, makes more sense for a top-tier card like the 1080, where thermal limits seem to be a serious issue. 8pin is good idea, especially since initial reports seem to indicate power bottleneck with the 6pin.
>>55347636
it's a bit different in germany.
the cards below the price of the nitro which comes with 3 fans are clocked lower than 1050mhz.
the msi is clocked 1060mhz
and the asus is clocked 1000mhz while the pricier asus is clocked 1060 and who the fuck buys powercolor/vtx3d/club3d (all the same vendor)
all while the nitro promises excellent temperatures below 66degrees and low noise. dunno about the other vendors
>>55347730
>The PCB cutout to flow through is slightly gimicky
Better GPU airflow never hurt anyone.
>display port
>>55347371
>Also the fans will be easy to swap,
makes it easier to clean the fans for a change instead of pulling off the whole cooler.
coming to XFX cards too
>>55347823
How can you possibly hold this opinion? It's objectively superior to everything else by every metric.
Looking forward to this. Just saw some german dudes bumped the memory by 300mhz for some 10% gains at 1440p. Aftermarket coolers will push this card nicely
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/39615-amd-radeon-rx-480-im-test.html?start=25
>>55347819
Oh yeah, no doubt. It's awesome, but seems a bit unnecessary
But does it fry MoBos
>>55347371
>199$ card will suddenly cost 349$
What's the point? Might as well buy the 1070.
I like. Removable fan are a pretty sweet touch.
when these cards come out everyone will forget about the shitty reference card.
>>55347933
>349$
>70% mark up for aftermarket cooler
By that logic a 1070 will cost $670. May as well buy a 1080, too bad it costs $1050.
>>55347933
With 349?
it costs 800 dollars stupid goy!
I ordered the Sapphire 8gb model.
Should I be worried?
>>55347371
Where can I buy this with money and when?
I can't find any links or release dates
Was gonna wait for some custom 480's but I'm curious as to how long it'll be before they come out
you'll have to forgive my inexperience, I'm building my first PC.
>>55347597
Whitening toothpaste and a rag
>>55348118
Apparently about two weeks.
>>55348118
July 11th is the release date for the powercolor devil card so I expect more AIBs on the same day.
>>55347371
Price?
4 or 8gb?
When are these available?
When in the forms listed above?
>>55347508
What case is this, family friend?
I'm retarded with PSUs. Would this run at stock on a 520w PSUs with 40A on the 12V rail? I need something to replace my aging card.
>>55348250
>>55348273
Cool beans, thanks.
>>55348401
yea m8
>1 Dual Link DVI
what does dual link DVI mean
does a regular DVI fit into it? i don't thgink my cable is a dual linker
>>55347876
trolled hard xD
>>55347371
so, the 480 aftermarket will cost as the 390/390x aftermarket cards and perform worse??
just fuck my shit up senpai. There is 0 motivation for me to buy anything now.
>>55348483
it prob is dual link senpai
Which AMD AIB uses the highest quality fans? Like best acoustics and shit.
>>55348509
When the 1060 drops AMD probably lowers their prices a bit
>>55348521
i looked at the port and it's the dvi-d dual link
>>55348561
Doubt it, Nvidia cards rarely undercut AMD.
>>55348555
Sapphire is generally the best
>>55348564
ur gud senpai
>>55348555
MSI and Sapphire were usually pretty quiet for me. I used GIgabyte tho, but it was a bit warmer than the others (MSI 380 and Gigabyte 380)
>>55348571
doubt it too, the 1060 will be same price but perform better than AMD.
and AMD won't drop price, thy'll just increase marketing and lies
>>55348521
>>55348564
Better view of the ports.
>>55348594
>the 1060 will be same price but perform better than AMD.
Lol no way, you're asking way too much from Nvidia. If 1060 is faster than 480, you can count on it costing at least $30-50 more. And that's just the US, rest of the world is totally fucked for Nvidia pricing (except Brazil where Nvidia is cheaper for some bizarre reason.)
>>55348618
We are talking about the 480 not the 1060.
>>55348337
cootelk c3, i don't really like the acrylic glas though, it attracts alot of dusk. i probably
>>55348241
thanks alot, will try that on my next dissamble
>>55348594
i doubt it. nvidia traditionally gets BTFO in the lower and mid brackets. it's been that way for like 3 generations in a row so i don't know why you suddenly think the -60 card will be relevant.
>>55348594
For you -> >>55348630
not You >>55348630 Sorry
>>55348618
well, I live in Europoor, the cheapest 480 in my country is 330 EUR as of now. I image the aftermarket will be 350 and up.. no fucking way I'm buying a new GPU this year.
>>55347371
>2 HDMI
Why?
Looks fucking great
It'll all be useless if it can't overclock past 1366mhz though
>>55348657
if u have two monitors and u have 2 hdmi cords then u dont have to buy new cords and new monitors
>>55348672
Who the fuck uses HDMI for anything but VR?
Damn that looks pretty good. And DVI on custom models is a relief for a pleb like me without the option to use DisplayPort and with the need for 144hz.
Thanks OP, too bad the card is kind of bad (ridicilous mobo power consumption). Will be getting one anyway becase there aren't any actually better alternatives. Thanks jews!
>>55347461
People with monitors older than a couple of years. So most people
>>55348638
the gtx 950 was a really good budget card, though
>>55348657
Why not? I can run one to my TV and one to my PC Monitor.
>>55348657
>>55348672
Not just that but VR headsets uses HDMI connection. If you already using HDMI for your monitor, you have an extra one for VR only
>>55348637
Ty <3
>>55348447
thanks, senpai
>>55348689
The Vive does...do you just get upset when you see shit you don't like but other people may need them.
>>55348696
>If you already using HDMI for your monitor
are there really monitors that use hdmi rather than displayport, though?
>>55348689
umm they're all like the same thing lol idk what the big deal is.
Ps.
Is the mobo side off limits power draw not a concern anymore because this model has 8pin instead of 6?
T.
>>55348692
>>55347853
They don't have any RMA process though.
>>55348719
for 1080p 60hz it doesn't matter what cord is used. the 480 is advertised as "VR Ready" so it makes sense for there to be more than 1 hdmi port. 1 hdmi dedicated to VR and 1 more if you need it for your monitor
>>55348713
Seriously question but doesn't HDMI only supports 1080p60Hz? (I know HDMI 2.0 supprorts more, but I'm certanly sure the 390 and 390x doesn't have that and they are VR aproved)
Don't the Vive has almost the same Resolution (prob higher) and the need to achieve at least 90FPS?
>>55348719
Not all Monitor uses Display port. I mean I only saw DP from $200+ usually
>>55348719
My monitor has HDMI, DVI, and VGA
>>55348759
strange. how retro
>>55348720
>umm they're all like the same thing lol
No they're not you tech illiterate swine.
Fucking hell I'm getting off /g/ until you underage /v/ tards leave.
Where's fucking RX 470?
>>55348767
My IPS monitor has the same. Its only 1080p60Hz, non gaming shit. Thats the usual
>>55348769
for 1080p 60 hz they're the same you memeboi
>>55348719
The idea is if you had a HDMI device already like a TV then your VR headset won't take up the only HDMI port anymore.
I've been manually swapping my Vive and my projector. More than one DP port fixes that since the Vive uses miniDP but this saves me buying a new cable, also the Rift doesn't have that option.
>>55347371
It doesn't matter because AMD is garbage.
>>55348767
Is it retro?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AZMLIDQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought two of these last year and Acer only started selling them 2-3 years ago
>>55348739
The limitations on HDMI doesn't come from the cable but the devices themselves. The cables are the same with HDMI 2.0 and 1.4b. GPUs can support higher bandwidths than most TVs support. AMD announced full 1080p SBS 60hz 3D with the 7970 but no device supported it so you were still limited to 24hz.
>>55347482
This. I'll be on that shit like white on rice.
>>55348723
It never was a concern. 75w is just the standard PCI power draw it can handle 300w peak
>>55347388
>>55347386
nvidiot shills belong back on /v/
>>>/v/
>>55347538
Ive been holding this stance since day one. Who the fuck buys overpriced reference garbage? I mean look at that poo in loo Chinese bullshit. Even nvidias superior reference shroud hits 82C and starts throttling.
Who ready for 4870 2.0?
>>55347371
Bollocks, the Sapphire reference card is the same as all the rest of them.
>>55348985
>Who ready for 4870 2.0?
this isn't 4870 2.0. the 4870 was great even in it's reference config and had the performance of a flagship.
the 480 is just trash. AMD made a huge mistake by rehashing their already poorly designed GCN architecture.
>>55347371
That's not reference, homie. That's the Nitro. No price yet. No release date. Only teasers.
>>55349158
Look at the reference cooler. Seriously. Look how shit it looks when people take it off to water cool. And then see them OC to 1400Mhz. Now imagine we aren't stuck with a shitty bloody six pin.
>>55347371
>DVI
>2016
>>55349408
its good tho
>>55349158
The stock heatsink is aluminum and about the size of your dick (tiny). Also the vrm has no cooling except for some heatpads. The aib cards should be pretty fucking good
>>55349408
>2016
>still not having affordable korean monitor.
>>55348672
Its great for people with hdmi monitors who use audio over hdmi. Recievers typically can only handle 1080p60 and add lag
I just want a card that uses literally the best of everything, the best chokes, mosfets, vrms, the best highest quality parts and binned memory chips, everything to keep the card within the power delivery's most efficient range when overclocked to the limits, but sadly the price would be outrageous by comparison and no one would ever do it for midrange models.
>>55349158
the 480 is good
stop being a nvidia shill
>>55347371
It's shocking how much better it looks in black compared to silver
>>55349142
Op made a typo.
>>55347508
Cool case man.
>>55348692
so get a DP to dvi adapter
you can get them for like 5 bucks online
>>55348594
Like 60 series Nvidia's were ever good.... In a year you'll be 30% slower than the 480. Don't worry you'll be able to buy a 1160 a year later that will be slower still.
>>55348973
>ask for the price of product makes you a shill
so you admit to being a fanboy then,after all unilaterally accept a product without the price makes you a blind fan boi.
>>55349539
>buying B-tier chink panels with no quality control just to save a few bucks
What an absolute retard.
>>55350436
Speaking of korean monitors, what's the current FOTM model? I haven't paid attention to them for about 3 years.
It's gonna be $199, you can't afford a mere $230. We're practically giving it away already. Sell your old card and $260 isn't even that much. Just $299 you should be thanking me letting you take money out my pocket goy.
I dont understand the whole "great for VR" thing when this card isnt "vr ready".
>>55347371
>no vga
why is every partner cheaping out on this? it should add more than 5$ to slap a vga port on it
>>55347482
reference designs are already over 250$, partner boards will add a premium. expect 300$ for 8gb
>>55350810
Because AMD has stopped doing VGA out. Pretty sure Nvidia has as well.
Dont like it? Too bad. Get off your ancient piece of shit monitor and get on something newer.
>>55350810
Don't most still include a DVI to VGA adapter? Last time I bought a new card was a couple years ago, but my XFX card came with one.
>>55350810
>2000+16
>VGA
can I turn off fans completely when idling on that card? important question
>>55350810
my 660 ti didn't have it, but came with an adapter.
>>55351941
Not enough details. I'd assume yes.
>>55347371
go to /gcg/, let this one die
>>55352092
>>55347371
sauce? I want to habbeb
>>55348719
my second monitor only has DVI and VGA
anyone found any graph with memory usage of the rx 480?
>>55347371
I'd like to see an ITX version of that.
>>55350104
>144hz
>>55352116
kys
You forgot
>can fry your motherboard anytime
>>55350784
its premium vr ready bro, based amd bringing vr to the 99%
>>55348085
Yeah its shit shouldve waited for the non ref
>>55347876
Display port connection sometimes made my AOC monitor to not turn on. For instance, when i booted the pc, if i turned the monitor on, it would time out before it got a video signal from the DP and i would have to turn it off and on again when it hit the desktop. Also, the AOC monitor was my main at 2560x1440, my secondary monitor was just 1600x900, when the turning on problem happened, it would fuck up my desktop icons. It got annoying ao I just switched to hdmi
>tfw my old GTX460 died last night
>tfw new 480 costs $320 here and it's housefire anyway
>tfw completely broke and left with shitty laptop
JUST
>>55355444
PLUG
>>55347508
you better pu a plastic sheet or a piece of paper
between your VGA and The CPU cooler if you
don't want smoke coming out of your case.
>>55348794
this
>>55355846
i always have a thing copper plate in that place, just took it out for the image
>>55355870
a ok then. nice case though
Can someone explain why it would be better to buy a RX 480 for £210 - £240 when the GTX 970 is £199 and already has existing drivers and support to go with it?
>>55355931
because your currency nosedived.
>>55355931
1).better direct x 12 support than any other gtx 1000 card
2).actual 4 GB of memory instead of 3.5fast vram + 0.5(sup slow vram)
3)also when games actually start reaching the 4 gb vram (in about 10 years)
instead of the current <2 gb max(4k ultra settings) your card wont throttle
from 200 gb/s to 20 gb/s(970 vram problem) .
4)Drivers are not a problem today for any game, its an old meme made by /v/ in 2005.
Driver problems exist only retarded gaymer pc who dont shit about proper installation and keeping uptodate their drivers.
5)Check any contemporary game on youtube running on any amd card and you will see
noone complains about drivers
6)Price performance ratio is DOUBLE THAT OF 1080 (sum all the specs and divide by the price.)
User replaceable fans is awesome, but why not make it some standardized fan size so you can replace it with any fan?
Waiting for the "beast mode" 1600MHz cards anyway
>>55356041
>4)Drivers are not a problem today for any game, its an old meme made by /v/ in 2005.
>Driver problems exist only retarded gaymer pc who dont shit about proper installation and keeping uptodate their drivers
And I don't talk about linux...
>>55356041
Thanks anon. From the sounds of it, the RX 480 is more 'future proof', while the GTX 970 will likely be better for immediate short term results.
I'm looking for a card to upgrade from my babbys first GPU HD 7770 and the RX 480 seemed like an excellent opportunity if not for the power concerns.
>>55356041
(you)
>>55356073
sorry i didnt mention linux because i dont consider it a gaming platform,their creators cant even make a proper distro aside from ubuntu and kali
>>55356080
glad to help ,only dont rush to spend 300+ for the rx 480 now since its out of stock wait for the aftermarket coolers and the price to drop to 200+ euros
also sit and wait maybe more problems arise with the new cards and nvidia actually gets the upper hand
also dont take my suggestion as granted ask other people too in stores
>>55356106
>provides zero counterarguments
>adds more the nonsensical AMDRONES VS NVIDIKEKS SHITPOSTING
>AD HOMINEM
HERE IS YOUR (YOU) YOU FUCKING SHITPOSTER
>>55356041
>>55356080
You can buy AMD card but not the new rx480. To be very fair, it's probably the worst card ever made by AMD. It's not DOA because of the price...
So i am building a new rig after a decade and my question is: which port should i use?
DVI or hdmi?
My monitor:
http://www.lg.com/hk_en/monitor/lg-W2261VP-PF
supports both and i am planning on buying this card.
I know nothing about these interfaces.
>>55347371
I'll probably wait for the Sapphire 490/x's and see how well that performs. Otherwise I'll get a 1070 or something.
Seems like a waste of money upgrading from a 290 to a 480.
>>55356041
Love how AMD took 2 years to figure out how to go from 3.5 to 4....
>>55356142
AMD have no driver, look the CF. Also you always need to wait, look the Fury X drivers at the launch
>i didnt mention linux
You are on /g/nu...
>>55355931
Because it's only downhill from here on for the 9xx series with the 10xx series launching. NVIDIA'll be dropping driver support pretty fast which will have a huge impact on 970 performance with its software-based architecture.
I don't suppose you people already forgot what happened to the 780?
Im still using 10 year old Samsung with VGA connection.
>>55356151
from my viewpoint very little percentage play on ultra 4k multimonitor 300% sampling
so for 1080p which is about 90% of gamers who play LOL its perfectly reasonable price/performance you easily get 100 on medium or high settings
>>55356183
the link says its a discontinued product...
>>55356192
i dont get your point
>>55356213
i agree that we all need to wait and see , in the end of summer i hope we have a clearer image.
>>55347371
So how many monitors does it support? Can I get 4 displays with one card?
>>55356246
That doesn't stop me from having one...
>>55356106
instead of working on drivers they are too busy shilling on reddit :^)
>>55356248
Maybe even more with those hdmi dongles.
>>55356256
lolok, if you find a stock, i dont much about the dvi hdmi display port diffference just check google for transfer speeds and wuality of each interface
>>55356213
how the fuck is it possible to have 48 fps with one card and eveless with two?
>pic related
not dissing just asking
>>55356041
It's not a issue @1080p...and nobody will play with a 480/390/970 @4K and 15fps...
>>55356041
>the driver is a meme but the 3.5 isn't a meme
>>55356315
I bought one in a newish condition for 55$.Pretty good deal in my opinion.
>>55347371
Some Vietnam fag brought 48 the RX480 to mining bitcoin.
AMD card usually uses for the mining anyway, not for the gaming
>>55347371
seems nice for 330 euros being mildly overclocked to 1350
>>55356248
Uhhh yes, I guess. I have three displays now on HD6930: DVI, HDMI and DP-to-VGA. It should be possible to add another one to that second DP with DP-to-VGA adapter.
>>55347461
who the fuck uses dual link dvi?
oh i dont know whoever is running a fucking monitor that is above 60 hz?
>>55354812
>having desktop icons
leave
>>55356394
Here is his mining setup. The electric prices in Vietnam were quite low so he said it will repayment in a half year if lucky
>>55356425
Close in shot
>>55356425
Are there no thieves in Vietnam or something?
>>55356449
yes because surely they gona get the cards not some gold or money
>>55347461
>Who even uses that shit anymore?
Anyone using a Korean monitor?
>>55356355
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/72889-radeon-rx480-8gb-performance-review-21.html
>picrelated
please tell me how 980 will have more fps in dx12 than r480 no amd shilling
just asking for proofs
>>55356375
from my youtube experience i havent seen any games not runnng on windows platform+ AMD
>>55356393
nice buy
here link for wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
DVI:
Single Link: 1920 × 1200 (WUXGA) @ 60 Hz
Dual Link: 2560 × 1600 (WQXGA) @ 60 Hz
Analog video stream: 1920 × 1200 (WUXGA) @ 60 Hz
Data signal RGB data, clock, and display data channel
Bitrate (Single link) 3.96 Gbit/s
(Dual link) 7.92 Gbit/s
hdmi:
Bitrate Up to 18 Gbit/s (2.25 GB/s) in HDMI 2.0 seems to have much higher pixel clock
dispaly port:
1.62, 2.7, 5.4, or 8.1 Gbit/s data rate per lane; 1, 2, or 4 lanes; (effective total 5.184, 8.64, 17.28, or 25.92 Gbit/s for 4-lane link);
seems hdmi is the best
>>55356410
Huh, I wonder why all good 144Hz monitors use DisplayPort then. It is a mystery to everyone. 144Hz confirmed for colossal placebo nobody without fucking ancient DVI trash can ever really use.
Confirmed $275
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29723412&postcount=10554
>>55349158
>the 4870 was great even in it's reference config and had the performance of a flagship
This. I had a 4870 512mb reference version for years and that thing was a beast.
The 480 is just hastily designed and wasnt QA'ed good enough.
>>55356442
>>55356425
why doesnt he even cover them with somthing it might rain from one moment to another
>>55356488
Thanks man.Sorry for needing to be spoonfed.
>>55356492
nowdays they do
144hz monitors exists for a long time +korean monitors too..
>>55347371
>Thoughs? Seems interesting
NO
>>55356501
the 480 is replacing the fucking 380x why you keep trying to compare it with high end cards?
when 490 comes then we can go all ape shit vs 1080 but now it doesnt matter
POOWERCOLOR CONFIRMED 1.4ghz
http://videocardz.com/61769/exclusive-powercolor-radeon-rx-480-devil-pictured
>>55356213
RotR actually lose CF support in DX12.
For some really fucking stupid reason TPU decided to use DX12 to bench AMD crossfire.
Though the scaling is shit, CF is actually work on DX11 version of RotR making it perform just about 98ti level.
>>55348483
Yes. It'll be fine.
Dual link supports all dvi formats
>>55356457
>>55356502
Well, I don't think he will operate his mining gear outside tho.
Just assemble it outside and then move it in-house with some air condition, the electric price is really cheap.
>>55356508
well it wasnt exatly spoonfeeding just me providing some of dem proffs for ease of discussion...
>>55356410
>>55356492
well the dvi dual link can get only 120 fps on 1080p
WUXGA (1,920 × 1,200) @ 120 Hz with CVT-RB blanking (2 x 154 MHz)
and display port can do 4k at 144fps as well as hdmi
>>55356556
That should put it on par with GTX980/390x.
GamerNexus benched the card @1350/2200 and have it beat 980 on some title and only loses once against 390x in Shadow of Mordor.
>>55356560
you know rotr is the perfect example of this
http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/03/14/directx12-requires-different-optimization-on-nvidia-and-amd-cards-lots-of-details-shared/
they tried to do way to many shits and ended up being a hybrid of some sort
>>55356498
If that's for the 8gb version then it's good.
>>55356583
yeah seems logical... is bitcoin mining even profitable anymore from my calcualtion he will never break even but i might be wrong
>>55356587
http://www.144hzmonitors.com/knowledge-base/144hz-1080p-which-cable-do-i-need/
they say a dual link is the typica you need
actually this is one of the problem people have on nvidia forums as well they cant boot the system because the card doesnt recongize the resolution
>>55356618
I tend to believe that they RotR dev want it to be a DX12 title without any DX12 elements that gives AMD performance boost.
>>55348693
the 950 was/is just as overpriced as the 960 (a lot)
>hurr it's more "power efficient" and a bit slower than radeon counterparts, but we'll still charge 10-20% more
>>55356661
that is the irony...it was a port it was already an amd game yet somehow the initial release was so bad they had to put a on off switch for the vxao
i bet they wont do the same mistake again
>>55356636
>$275 is good
All the fanboys were shouting from the mountaintops "That performance for a $200 card is awesome!!" now $275 is good
>>55348949
that's with all plugs combined, not the motherboard socket alone, you idiot
>>55356656
yes its eems hdmi has fallen behind, and i always felt that dvi is global standard
also only newer 1.3 HDMi version can do 144 hz lol
>>55356654
Right now? It is profitable as the bitcoin price was raising. Don't know what will happen after the halving tho.
>>55356501
>The 480 is just hastily designed
All the evidence points to that not being the case at all.
The best theory I have is that the Apple/ps4/xbox contracts got them obsessed with retooling Polaris into a low power efficiency card(and failing).
>>55356449
Don't worry, they're zip tied
My dudes, I still have my 2GB 6950 from four years ago. It's starting to show its age quite a bit and I'm looking to upgrade.
Should I get a reference 480 now or wait it out for the customs?
Also, I realized my shitty mobo (also from years ago) doesn't have PCIe 3.0 - only 2.0. Forgive my retardation, but will I have to get a new mobo for these new cards or are they fully compatible?
Thanks to any kind anons who can share some advice.
>>55356617
It should. Judging by the overclockers thread powercolor usually comes in around £10 cheaper than the Sapphire too, so will be under $275 usd
>>55356587
Pretty strange then that my monitor works with DVI DL on 1080p@144hz
>>55356498
So around 300usd?
>>55356498
How do you get £249 into $275. Historically that would make it more likely $249.
>>55356704
For a custom 8gb version on release it's not bad. The reference ones are obviously shit.
>>55356727
wait for customs if you still have working card, housefire and power delivery issues make it less interesting option right now, especialy if your mobo is old
>>55356760
But the card's value was in it's cheap price. It's now turning into a $280-300 card from a $200 card - same chip! At that point, GTX 1070 is a better value.
>>55356755
British retailers are basing it off the US price, which we dont know but by back calculating the reference prices, its works out
>>55356498
Fuck that, I will take the 1070 or maybe the 1060. I want 'my gameworks'...
>>55356709
yes you are right the doubling night do something, also judging from all the money he spent he must know hat he is doing
>>55356743
indeed strange let me search it up :
>Example display modes (dual link):
>QXGA (2,048 × 1,536) @ 75 Hz with GTF blanking (2 × 170 MHz)
> HDTV (1,920 × 1,080) @ 85 Hz with GTF blanking (2 × 126 MHz)
> WUXGA (1,920 × 1,200) @ 120 Hz with CVT-RB blanking (2 x 154 MHz)
> WQXGA (2,560 × 1,600) @ 60 Hz with GTF blanking (2 × 174 MHz)
> WQXGA (2,560 × 1,600) @ 60 Hz with CVT-RB blanking (2 × 135 MHz)
> WQXGA (2,560 × 1,600) @ 60 Hz with CVT-RB blanking (269 MHz)
> WQUXGA (3,840 × 2,400) @ 33 Hz with GTF blanking (2 × 159 MHz)
i dony know anymore wiki says 1080p at 120 is max maybe its hidden feature lololol
>>55356787
The OC card should put it on par with 980/390x based on the OC bench by others while being plagued by power limit.
Its still a good price/perf value, though slightly dwindled making closer to GTX1070.
>>55356828
Actually, one of the main improvement over older GCN makes RX 480 works really well with gamework title.
>>55356142
You should NEVER buy GPU's at launch because:
1. You have two companies vying for your money with competing products and it takes time to find out which gives better value overall.
2. Any issues that might crop up like the Nvidia flickering screen problem as seen on 1080/1070's and of course the AMD power usage issue.
3. You need to allow time for the third party coolers to appear which are always better than a reference card and usually worth paying the extra for.
4. Allow a little time for the drivers to shake out any bugs and improve performance across a broad range of games (or at least those games important to you).
NEVER buy reference cards at launch. Wait to see how both camps perform after their AIB's come out.
>>55356855
i already said that we everyone must wait ...and i agree that it svery sad that we have an oligopoly of amd and nvidia thus prices are super high with their markups
t. econ student
>>55356654
not bitcoin, but altcoins
like ethereum. and currently trumpcoin. i mined trumpcoin for only a night, price jumped yesterday and i made half a bitcoin
>>55356887
good mine! , i am just to bored to get onto it anymore did ethereum had any significant jump in price? or is still shit
>>55356849
The 480 OC is shit and I will not pay $~250 if I can get a 1070...
>>55356926
RX 480 actually have damn good scaling.
Its just AMD is fucking retarded to put a single connector onto it and try to sell it as 150watt card.
>I will not pay $~250 if I can get a 1070...
At current market price the lowest 1070 price is actually the FE Edition for $450.
Seriously, if you can pay for it go for that, its clear that sub <$300 gpu isn't for you despite it having better perf/value.
Infact, I am starting to question why are you here in the first place, its clear that this card is NOT for you.
>>55356926
obviously its shit we are so overwhelmed by the reviews of so many oc versions that we know how its perfoming..
meanwhile you are saying that paying 200 more for 10% more perf on dx12 is a right thing to do
oh wait i forgot nvidia buyers dont care about the future they just change cards every year
not to mention that gcn gains a lot by OCing in general
>>55347461
>who uses that shit
I-I do
Ouch. Turn on CC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKcHR1qW3w4
>>55356498
It's £249 based on Brexit so not a true indicator. But considering the 8GB ref card is $239 and the ref card on that site for the Sapphire is £229 I would expect the new Sapphire card to come in at around the $259-$269 mark. But that's only a rough guess.
>>55347813
it's about 68-72 on heavy games at 1440p though, but still 10 degrees lower than asus 770 I had
>>55356908
it was doing nicely until DAO fucked everything up gox-style
>>55356855
>an actual reasonable person on /g/
Fuck off
>>55357004
>what
>PCI-E wattage shit
Oh for fuck sake, looks like Nvidiashills already found this thread.
Look mate, you might want to read this shit
>http://www.anandtech.com/show/4209/amds-radeon-hd-6990-the-new-single-card-king/5
tl;dr PCI-SIG doesn't give a fuck about power compliance in the certification.
Every modern motherboard have power trip that would shut it down whenever its overloaded.
>no motherboard will allow more wattage than it designed to
>despite what others have been saying, RX 480 does not override motherboard power control
>your motherboard will at most shut down if it does
>PCper vendor concern is more onto the build and soldering quality
Also, the power wattage that is drawn from PCI-E lane is dependent on the motherboard itself as seen from the variable result from different bench.
RIP 480
waiting for the 485
>>55357183
https://community.amd.com/thread/202397
https://community.amd.com/thread/202410
http://www.overclock.net/t/1604421/various-amd-rx-480-review-thread/1890#post_25309056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhjC_8ai7QA
>>55357183
>RX 480 does not override motherboard power control
wait, do people actually believe that?
>buying amd
>2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04ITA1_XoqM
it's like you want to eat shit
>>55356968
Well hes actually right. Trying to turn the 480 into a $300 card by up powering it and overclocking isn't going to get you same perf/dollar as a real higher tier card with more cores. It gets to the heart of issue that rx 480 performance is only good when its priced at $199 compared to this gen price/performance and not last gen. Its actually still looking questionable at $250 with these OC versions unless we see over 1400 mhz and much better temps.
>>55357235
And then wait for the 1060Ti. This game is never ending. If you don't have a card that performs well 'right now' then just buy the best card you can afford now.
>>55357254
It's marketed as a value range card. It was never marketed as an overclocked at all. It's just that SOME cards (From Both teams) have better overclocking potential than others. But 'both' teams do not sell their cards on overclocking potential. Sure they have overclocking tools provided but they put a big fucking warning you must agree to if you do.
>Play the silicon lottery they said.
>>55357236
Lets see who win the RMA case here, will the MOBO manufacture blame the AMD gpu or its the manufacture fault for letting such a high wattage running through their lanes.
>>55357238
Can you prove otherwise?
Motherboard have VRM that direct all the voltage to all its component.
If the card request more power in the PCI-E lanes and the motherboard will acknowledge it and gives it as much as it can.
Can you explain a wide disparity between that vid and others bench powerdraw on the same card?
>>55357309
The problem is more that its underwhelming and so only good when its $199 but AMD never wanted to sell it for that. It was just a marketing gimmick. When the limited release 4gb ref cards run out well be left with aib versions costing $260+ and the performance doesn't justify it.
>>55357236
Also, upon further reading that specific Asus Rampage audio failure is a known issue before this.
It is most likely a coincidence and unrelated since the power circuit is unrelated to the PCI_E.
Waiting on the followup for the other 2 cases.
>>55357398
There's posted evidence that the RX 480 is exceeding the PCI-E spec for slot power draw. It doesn't matter if a motherboard is a piece of shit and fries when most wouldn't - RX 480 violates the spec and will (justly) be held responsible.
RX 480 will be neutered by software to avoid the overdraw and it will underperform. it is a POS as predicted.
>>55357078
$259 would be damn near irresistible desu
>>55357078
$260 would get me to buy my first sapphire.
>>55357454
PCI-SIG have been asked the exact same question 4 years ago and the answer is the same as the one they gave for RX 480; It doesn't matter, not buy much.
>So what does the PCI-SIG think about cards such as the 6990 which exceed the PCIe specification? In a nutshell, they don’t directly care.
>...the PCI-SIG does not even test for power specification compliance under their current compliance testing procedures.
These 'violation' is hardly a serious matter.
AMD is far from being banned or sued.
>>55357138
late reply..but whatever.
So their DAO got hacked holy fucking hell just ridiculous, i guess oversimplifying things is bad afterall,also once again me leaving the mining "scene" wa a good desicion.
>>55357524
>the PCI-SIG does not even test for power specification
Yet AMD/fanboys are using their passing of the PCI-SIG test as justification that there isn't a problem.
The PCI-E spec includes the 6 and 8 pin connectors. When PCI-SIG says they don't care about exceeding the spec, they're referring to having 2 8 pin connectors, for example (which is not in spec, check out the wikipedia page under the power section). 100+W over the PCI-E slot is a major problem.
>>55357463
The 390 twin frozr is $260 and comes with total war. A $260 480 isn't really irresistible. Yeah there's a price drop, but 390s falling $20 isn't like 980tis dropping by $200.
>>55357589
Violating the spec is still violating the spec no matter which area it is.
When it comes to power consumption PCI-SIG simply doesn't enforce this.
Which is why PSU manufacture freely overpowered their rails, because they can and does not care about the compliance.
Whether it will effect to consumer or not is a different matter, however such bullshit claim like AMD being banned, sued or having some kind of big repercussion by America ITC is baseless.
>>55357658
I don't think the lawsuit for PCI-E compliance will happen. In fact, I haven't actually seen any evidence of AMD or AIB partners claiming the RX 480 and related cards are PCI-E compliant. Excessive power draw from the PCI-E slot can cause damage, though, and this is the main concern. "My motherboard no longer works and your card does not meet PCI-E power specification" is all that's needed to make a claim.
>>55357893
If this kind of things happens then its a repeat to that 125watt CPU burning through people motherboards, especially on a certain company that use cheap parts.
Even though this board stated, and allowed such wattage through their spec, it failed when it actually try to deliver accordingly, so the motherboard manufacture have to replace these people motherboards and redesign their it.
Its currently still in the dark whether its AMD GPU that is forcing these powerdraw, or the motherboard that allow and deliver these requested power, and I reckon it will be made clear when there's a valid case popping out.
Would it be worth getting a 390x for £260 now or should i wait for the non reference 480's to come out?
>>55358079
Why not wait for them to actually be available and make your decision then? The 390x is running away.
>>55358047
I would be surprised if motherboards manufacturers didn't stipulate that only PCI-E spec cards can be used with the motherboard. I'll look for such a stipulation at a few mfgs later
>>55358111
isn't*
>>55358079
If the 1060 is really releasing in 2 weeks, you should wait for that to get a full picture of what's available
>>55358147
Im just scared that if nvidia release it at a higher or similar price than £260. And it doesn't perform better than a 390x, the price might go back up to over £300 and i'll miss oout on a good deal.
