>He doesn't own a UPS
What's your excuse, /g/? Just waiting for that power outage or surge to turn your thousands of dollars worth of equipment into expensive paperweights?
>>55302711
>thousand of dollary doos
my rMBP will just switch to battery no harm no foul
>>55302711
_Protip(TM):_ Do NOT plug printers into a UPS :^)
I have one (bottom left corner).
It's nice to have a movie on or something playing while a storm rages outside, the power flickers and you dont give a shit> just keeps playing.
Mine lasts about 25-30 minutes on battery.
>>55302711
>power outage
whats it like to live in the third world?
The last time we had a power outage in my area is almost 15 years ago.
>>55302711
I have one, it just needs a new battery
>Just waiting for that power outage or surge to turn your thousands of dollars worth of equipment into expensive paperweights?
You don't need a UPS for surge protection.
>>55302782
not to mention, most UPS's surge protection ability is not even all that good, you're better off having your UPS plugged into a surge protector, that way if there is a real surge, the surge protector gets hit, not your UPS.
>>55302711
Any UPS I've owned doesn't kick in nearly fast enough to stop the computer from turning off and you need to spend thousands to get one that does.
>>55302711
>having shit power
>having shit power supplies
Your junk is already a pile of paperweights.
>>55302802
I've never had an issue, i've heard generally it's with older PSUs on older UPSs. Most modern PSUs and modern UPSs play nice together. Mine has been working fine for a year now and I paid $130. It has never not switched to the battery in time.
>>55302711
>Not ever needed
>Power storm turns off your power
>Battery in UPS is dead
>Buy a new battery
>rinse and repeat
Fucking useless expensive shit.
>>55302838
>useless
4u
Power goes out 2-5 times a year here
>>55302855
maybe put your money into moving then
>>55302838
My power flickers 2-3 times every 3 months. and I get a total loss of power maybe twice a year.
I replace the battery every 3-4 years.
Really dont see a reason not to use one when it costs like $100 and my PC/monitors cost easily 25x that.
>>55302711
I have a surge protector and my main computer is a laptop.
I primarily use a laptop these days. Built in UPS.
>>55302838
>Usseless
>mfw people keep fucking triggering the breakers and the power keeps going down.
>>55302860
Maybe I like where I am
>>55302838
>I can't find a use for something, therefore it's useless
Literal autism.
What is the point of this ?
When there is a power outage my computer just turn of, why is it a problem ?
>>55302780
Canada is pretty 3rd world, yeah.
>>55302892
Because it turns off immediately without any time to save anything or power down safely.
Not only will it cause data loss, but you can damage your computer components as well.
I can own a shipping company?
I've never experienced a surge, not even once in my life.
Might as well get meteor insurance while I'm at it.
>>55302802
I've bought $50 UPS that can switch on in time no problem. Don't know what brand you were buying but might want to avoid them in the future.
>>55302906
Random quarks are more likely to damage your components than a power outage.
>>55302906
How can it damage components ?
Reminds me of antistatic wrist strap
>>55302711
What? No!
I don't live in a 3rd world country with shitty power grid. I also don't use cheap chinkshit that explodes on disconnect.
>>55302838
>>55302913
I know, right?
How often do you have to replace those batteries - like once every five years or so? My power might go out like once every three or four years. And the last two times it went out, it was in sleep mode and already had the session saved.
Maybe people who live in the city just have fewer outages.
But that's a lot of money for just -maybe- saving your work. And I think bricking is only a realistic concern for SSDs.
>>55302923
Any sort of higher end monitors or computer there is no reason not to have it on a UPS, is it LIKELY to get damaged from a power outage? No, but it's possible, and a UPS is a drop in the bucket compared to buying new monitors or a new PC.
Not to mention you can bring the UPS with you to your next PC, all you have to do is change the battery every few years.
>>55302950
UPS can also protect against shitty power delivery, for example in the US you should be getting 120v AC, but many places will give anywhere from 115v to 125v fairly regularly, that's usually fine. But occasionally you will have shitty power quality in the area (highly dependent on infrastructure in your area) and it can drop to 80-90v or go up to 140-150v, this voltage peaks and sags and damage sensitive electronics. This is an especially big issue because you don't lose power during this process, so your electronics wont power down, they will try and run off the "dirty" power.
Things like DLP bulbs and similar electronics are particularly sensitive to this.
>>55302906
Aren't most new motherboards designed to prevent this? Literally happened to my second pc a couple of days ago, nothing happened it loaded all my open documents as if I put it in standby.
my laptop battery still last for 2 to 5 minutes.
I use it as cheap UPS alternative now
>>55302902
why does it happen though?
people who uses too much power?
lightning storms?
shitty generators?
>>55303055
Not him but it's normally a drunk hitting a power pole, or a not drunk hitting a patch of ice then a pole. Occasionally it's a downed tree taking out a line. I'm 99% positive those are the top three, at least around here
>>55303104
why don't you put the cables in the ground like in civilized countries?
It is a lot less maintenance and it looks a lot cleaner.
>>55303155
Yeah let me just grab my shovel and get to work
>>55303155
There are plenty of US states that are larger than these "civilized" countries.
My local city requires all construction after 1980 to use underground power lines, but power lines put up before that date are still allowed (and maintained).
But this depends on local government.
>>55302711
>implying
>>55302780
I live in San Francisco and my power goes out once a year. A couple weeks ago we had a 3 hour power outage that affected a 4 miles of the city.
>>55302992
It can still damage components besides SSDs.
>>55303104
>reminder that the U.S. still has above-ground power lines everywhere
>>55303215
that sounds like an overloaded generator.
>>55303210
>CUMONBATT: 0 Seconds
uh huh
>>55303245
There are no generators in San Francisco
>>55302711
i don´t get why people like you or generally people in such areas don´t piss on the energy providers to fix that horrible infrastructure or whoever is responsible for that
i mean yes it costs money but why does (at leasts seems) the us (or every other place with this problems) not care to at least provide decent infrastructure?
>>55303222
I mean, I've known at least one person that has gotten their PC fried with no parts spared due to using a power strip with a broken surge protector, but I use surge protection at least.
>>55303274
ellaborate
>>55303285
Because corporate dollars matter more to everybody in charge in the U.S. than the personal lives of any of its slav- I mean citizens
>>55303303
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_California
>>55303285
They lobby the local governments and they are usually the only power providers in the area.
When you have paid off the local politicians and there is no competition.... Kinda hard to justify infrastructure upgrades to your share holders. They want to see profits, not spending money.
>>55302711
My apartment grid is not bad. No outages for 15+ years. Ones a year or two power may disappear for a second, so my equipment just reboots. Not a big deal. It is not worth spending 1000+$ on ups and its maintenance.
If your grid is bad and you are worried about voltage spikes, poor neutral connection or some stupid neighbor with old welding machine just ger a over/under voltage relay with varistor. This chink-russian thing cost 30$ and works pretty reliable at my summerhouse.
>>55303285
Meanwhile in venezuela...
>>55303385
>1000+$ on ups
I spent $150 7 years ago, bought a new battery for it a year ago for $75.
What are you smoking?
>>55302759
Last time I had one it would screech non stop while on battery until you unplugged it
A simple surge protector is all you need.
>>55303411
Most of them let you disable the battery power enabled beep via their control software, at least CyberPower does.
>>55303411
The button on the side of my unit is a mute button. Works like a charm.
>>55302744
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>55302711
>Power outage
Haven't seen one of those in the 5 years I've lived in this apartment. Then again I don't live in a third world country.
>>55302744
why?
>>55302711
I live in a first world country
>>55302744
Many people do, it's sad
>>55303609
>tfw resident of the third world country known as northern California
I was under the impression that a bunch of rednecks cranking the AC simultaneously was something the power grid would be able to handle.
I was wrong. More brown outs than after the prison depopulation measures.
Haven't had a power outage for as long as I can remember and I'm 30. I heard the 3rd world sucks though, tough luck
>>55302711
i run bsd on zfs
i dont have a need
BUT
my NAS has APC
>>55302793
I hope it's not too late for you to get a refund on that EE degree, Rajesh...
>>55303964
>APC BR1500G, 1500VA UPS, ~$150 USD.
>surge protection: 354 joules
>BELKIN BP112230, 1875w Surge protector
>surge protection: 4320 joules
Like I said, most UPS's unless they are really expensive server grade ones, will not have good surge protection capabilities because their primary function is NOT surge protection.
>>55302711
I bought a second hand APC unit a few years ago. The battery was totally dead, but the nice thing about lead acid batteries is that they don't really need a smart charge controller so you can upgrade the batteries as long as the voltage is the same. I picked up 2 deep cycle marine batteries and with a little rewiring, it works like a charm. I can get about 5 hours with this setup.
>>55304106
Old batteries
>>55304106
Good to know, I've just been using a UPS as a power strip since the battery is kill and I'm too lazy to search a replacement model
>>55304106
>>55304121
New batteries
>>55303568
Printers draw a lot of current, it's like plugging your vacuum cleaner to your UPS.
I just have a line conditioner and a surge protector. The line conditioner actually does kick in when it storms outside. When it's storming really badly I just avoid accessing my HDDs. If the power goes out, nothing dire really happens.
Anyone else /living on the edge/? I always keep my computer plugged in during thunderstorms.
>>55304155
Inkjet should be fine, but you definitely don't want to use a laser printer on one. Those fusers just suck down the power. The power draw is also very sudden when the fuser starts to heat up in preparation for printer.
>>55304134
Do be careful though. These batteries contain a lot of power. This is what happened when a stray wire shorted out the 2 lugs when I was wiring everything up.
The missing corner was blown off as molten metal from arc the short created.
>>55304012
Yes, very good, however, that doesn't fucking matter. There are two types of power surges you have to worry about.
The first is internal power surges which exist only in your home that are caused by a sudden increase or decrease in drain. These are going to be at most 250 joules and more typically less than 100, which any decent UPS surge protector could hold out against. That particular one is shockingly low, pun unintended, but it would still suffice. My UPS, the CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD, is rated to 2060 joules. The cheapest CyberPower in that series is still rated at 1030 joules. Either way, a decent UPS surge protector will suffice here.
The second is an electrical grid power surge which is going to be at the least 20000 joules and more typically 40000. You need to catch these before they enter your home or you are fucking done. This is done with surge protection at or just before your distribution board. Nothing internal stands any chance at stopping something like this, and even if it did, that energy has to go somewhere. This would just turn an electrical hazard into a fire hazard.
>>55303104
Had a guy threaten to off himself by jumping off an electrical tower. They shut down power to the whole fucking city. 3 hour power outage while they talked his dumb ass down.
>>55303423
That thing would be 150 joules at best. Good luck.
>>55304106
Try licking it.
>>55304106
So people actually buy 2nd hand UPS? Was thinking of selling mine complete with flakey battery that doesn't work well anymore.
>>55302711
>What's your excuse, /g/?
There is no UPS in the market that can support my computer actually.
>>55304702
>being this retarded
>>55304726
>not knowing shit about electricity
kys
>>55304541
fucking inconsiderate bastards why can´t these people off themselves by going into a forest and hanging themselves on a damn tree or something instead of bothering tons of other people
>>55304244
>>55304147
>>55304121
>>55304106
Neat.
Wait so we can just get a really good burned out PSU remove the controler and smack 2-4 batteries connected to it in series build a custom enclosure and it'd be gucci?
>>55304773
Burned out as in dead batteries? Sure
Burned out as in actually fried? No.
>>55304702
what computer do you have that there is no ups that supports it?
can´t you just go servergrade?
>>55304702
There are UPSs for mutlithousand watt servers, you're full of shit.
Also I highly doubt your AVERAGE power draw is anywhere close to your peak power draw. Just because your computer CAN pull 1,200w doesnt mean it does ever during normal use.
>>55304803
What he meant to say is that he used all his money so he can't afford one.
>tfw sever thunderstorm warning in effect for the next hour
>>55304837
>There are UPSs for mutlithousand watt servers, you're full of shit.
this
we have a UPS for our entire server room. big generators and shit
>>55302855
>>55302861
Holy fuck! Where do you people live. Power going out where I live is surprising. If it happens once in like 2 years that is crazy.
>>55304803
>>55304837
I use a decommissioned mainframe from the early 10s for some very special development needs. It uses power in the same order of magnitude than industrial freezer rooms, so anything to back it up would need to be a diesel generator and it would take a few seconds after the power cut to start working; can't call it an UPS if it actually lets the mainframe turn off. I just trust that the power doesn't go out and avoid using it during storms.
>>55304900
Anywhere that doesn't require buried power lines, so most of the US.
>>55304900
Wisconsin
>>55304907
I call 100% bullshit and not to mention, they 100% do make UPS's for that, it just requires a huge power bank AND a generator provides power after the batteries catch it. The generator takes over soon after because of the huge power draw.
>>55304909
Yeah, I like in a place with heavy snowfall, lots of tress and above ground power lines
Outages are not uncommon in the winter
>>55304909
>>55304917
Damn. I live in NH and weather gets pretty rough. Never really have power going out.
>>55304924
>Jesus why don't you buy a power bank that's worth more than your house, you're such a retarded pleb Jesus
>>55304954
Well considering to even have that installed in a residential house would require a few thousand dollars for an electrician to rewire your fucking house in the first place, you obviously dont care.
Or you're full of shit like I already said.
>>55304941
It's more people hitting power poles than directly weather related outages.
drunk drivers + ice = outage
>>55304990
drunk drivers in general, and bad weather in general.
people hit poles all the damn time.
>>55303408
Line interactive UPS equipment can be had for that price. Good luck finding an online/double conversion UPS for that price. Currently running an Eaton 9130 1000VA with a pair of external battery housings. With a Dell R310, network stack and a couple of external drives, should have about 6 hours of runtime. MSRP on the setup is right about $2k ($1200 for the UPS, $400 ea for the external battery modules).
>>55304577
Fuck no, see >>55304244
>>55304611
Not for very much, I think I payed $10 or $20 for this unit.
>>55304773
No leave the controller. You don't need a different controller as long as the voltage is the same since lead acid chargers will work on any sized battery which the same voltage.
>live in canada
>3 power outages literally every fucking day for 2 weeks
>it's always 1-3 seconds
thank you gubmint
>>55305045
I mean if you need 24/7 uptime sure, but this is 4chan, we are talking about home servers and other shit, the only reason you would "need" that sort of UPS is if you actually were making money from the system or were using it for real research or live monitoring data.
So sure, double conversion UPSs are going to be the best you can get, and should be used on higher end servers or similar very sensitive equipment. But for the home user it's 100% overkill and totally unneeded for 99% of use cases, and the few who could actually need it, should probably be using an actual server room or similar controlled environment, not their house.
>>55302711
I actually live in a first-world country where the power goes out maybe once every 15 years.
>>55304978
>Paying monkeys to lay down wire.
Do you also pay people to unclog your toilets and fix your leaks and change your locks? I don't know you but I've got a pretty good idea of the kind of man you are, and it's disgusting.
>bumfuck nowhere
>voltage fluctuates between 180 and 200
>power is preemptively shut down during strong winds
>sometimes there's no power for a day or two
I run my laptop and 3G router off batteries, fuck this failure of a power grid
>>55302744
Thanks Mr A+. We will call again.
>>55305226
well in my city it would be illegal for me to install that level of power to a residential structure without an electrician's licence.
Bought the $200 APC battery backup a few years ago, I live on a ranch with shit wiring so it's saved me quite a few times.
Agree with ya OP
>>55304802
Yah know exactly what I meant.
>>55305075
Thats what I meant use remove the controler + charger from the enclosure and make a custom one with a few more bateries.
>>55305226
If he is serious about it being a mainframe from the 2010's that could easily be 10,000-15,000w power draw. That would require a serious 100A circuit and most residential structures only come with 60A or 100A for the WHOLE building. Meaning he is having to run at least a 200A mainline and maybe an auxiliary 60A line as well.
It would be expensive, impractical, and I doubt he is telling the truth. To get that installed in your house would be a logistical nightmare, there is a reason we have data centers, they have the electrical systems to house these sorts of computers as well as the environmental control systems.
>>55302744
Does it matter with any other outlet?
>>55305284
I might work/live at a ranch soon. Any tips on networking? I'm spoiled by ISPs in Los Angeles + Powerline Adapters to bypass using wireless.
>>55305814
Get ready to live in networking hell.
PowerLine adapters, wifi, direct connection, still doesn't get above 500kb/s. I regularly get about 300kb/s with wifi from Frontier (previously verizon, only ISP that provides service in our area)
I got lucky and still have my unlimited data plan from Verizon though, and I use an app called Easytether to tether my data for free onto my PC. I get about 5mb/s which is good enough for downloads, videos, browsing etc but most games past 2010 can't be played online due to extreme lag. You can have the ranch life if I take over your LA ISP paradise lol.
Also, not networking related, but make sure to buy a lot of duster and some microfiber cloths. When it's hot, and you have to open the window, prepare for the entire room to get covered in dust.
>>55304954
You can literally get 20 kW out of ~$2000 worth of batteries.
>>55305990
Alrighty, not complete away from ranch life, just been working with it around Los Angeles and surrounding areas. Now I'm gonna be in the bumfuck nowhere up in the Sierras. There is some fiberoptics that reach up here but bleh, only in the downtown area.
>>55302711
not living in a shithole
I tripped the breaker a few times due to faulty household appliances, but havent experienced a power outage in the past 17 years
>>55303055
It actually really depends on where you live. There isn't just one power company or anything, there's usually city managed, private, or actual government managed.
In the same city, I used to live in an area that was managed by the city, and we got a power outage maybe once every 2-3 years? Usually due to a bad storm.
I moved about 4km west in the same city, and now we're on a private grid. It's not unusual to get 2-3 power outages a month.
So, it's a mixed bag I guess. I think the reason for the issues in this part of the city is that the grid is overworked. It's a old grid that was designed for a few houses, and can't handle the rapid expansion of the city that has occurred. My city has essentially doubled in size in the past 3-5 years.
>>55302741
>thousand
Uh, no.
>>55304155
So get one that can handle the current draw, come on. It's not that hard.
>>55304773
Fuck no. That would be fucking retarded.
I can remember exactly one power outage in the past 25 years. Spending hundreds of bucks on a UPS plus battery replacements over that period to allow me to save five minutes of work that one time wouldn't have been worth it by a LONG shot.
>>55308797
Line interactive UPSes will also buck and boost line voltage to keep power stable.
>>55302711
Don't tell me what I do and don't fucking own.
>UPS on desktop
>UPS on HTPC
>UPS on NAS
>>55308964
I have literally never had THAT happen. Brownouts are like a fairy tale from ages past, it's not something that actually happens in modern power systems.
>>55309027
it happens all the time in LA...
>>55304907
Gurl. at my facility we have 2 160kVA UPS which are tied in parallel for redundancy.
and thats only used for a minute for our 250kVA generator to get up to speed.
You can power A LOT of shit with 160kVA
but it better be worth the x Million dollars its gonna set you back
I do have one, and can't imagine having a decent setup without one.
>>55302711
>owning an off the self UPS
>not customizing a used UPS with deep cycle marine batteries to last for days
Enjoy the madrush to save everything and shut down before the tiny batteries drain in mere minute
>>55302711
I have one on my desktop, and I have one on my modem and router.
When the power goes out, my internet usually doesnt go down.
Its pretty nice actually
>>55309140
>lead acid battery offgassing in your house
Good job.
>>55309049
Well, America is kind of infamous for having an antiquated power grid, isn't it? It's not something that really happens in reasonably modern systems.
Just got a UPS, only really need it to last a few minutes until the generator kicks on anyway.
>>55309140
>not building a DC ATX powersupply
I guess you like useless inversions and rectifications hampering your efficiency
>>55309210
Some parts are more antiquated than others, yes. There are neighborhoods even in the same city where I live where the older areas have wires above ground, and the newer areas have them underground.
And this is in the same city. It's true when comparing across entire cities and towns as well.
>>55302780
I guarantee I live in a nicer area than you, and power outages occur pretty frequently in the winter months
>>55309172
They offgas hydrogen, not lead. You just can't have them in sealed space where the hydrogen could collect. Marine batteries are designed to provide power on people's yachts so they are relatively safe
>>55303423
surge protectors dont protect much
imagine it's protective capacity like a reverse (non-rechargeable) battery, it may last quite some time, getting chipped away over time or it can all go and more in one use. Yes they have warranties but you have near zero chance of getting any money off of it.
>>55309210
It really depends on where you live
>>55302780
what is it like living in a place without weather?
>>55304106
>bought
I get em from free from work when they upgrade, if you look around it usually isn't too hard from some people that just want to get rid of it
>>55309027
>I have literally never had THAT happen
And how the fuck would you know?
>>55309140
Please stop doing DIY garbage like this.
>>55304907
You're full of shit. They have UPS backups to support those, they're also in racks. Or you have a whole datacenter solution.
0/10, nigga you're a liar.
>>55304869
Same here. At a hotel though so I am screwed.
>>55305045
What do you need double conversion for? Nothing.
I have a generator at my house so the power does not go out until it runs out of diesel, which takes about 8 hours. When I run out of fuel the UPS in my setup kicks which gives me time to shutdown the computer and refuel the generator.
It is pretty neat senpai.
>>55304941
Are you kidding me? I live in Concord, lost power for nearly a week, 3years in a row! PSNH does a horrible job of keeping limbs off of the lines in this area.
power here in oklahoma goes out all of the time, like once every other month at least once. i've had the network adapter integrated in my xbox 360 die, computer network adapter die, light bulbs only last a few months, other consequences that i can't remember as well i'm sure.
>>55302711
>power outage or surge
what kind of shithole has these problems? no need for these useless stuff in the yuropoor region
>>55304566
>>55309673
But do USPs protect more/better? Because then you have a fried USP (and possibly dead batteries), instead of just a dead 10€ surge protector
>>55311492
*UPS
>>55302780
Try living next to the largest fresh body of water in the world.
Shit passes over it and gets shittier.
ITT: pajeets share advice on hiw to shill during their regular power outages
>>55302759
Really?
>>55302855
It did 2 times where I lived near Cologne before. But I don't care as I don't think such a small battery can keep my 600W+ station running very long. I'll switch to my phone then, as mobile service still keeps working when the power is out.
>>55302711
>thousands of dollars
lel
more like fifty bucks
>>55309269
I live in seattle and only had one power outage in the last 5 years.
>>55309049
>LA
that's what happens when your demographics are 90% hispanic, suddenly it's like mexico
Just buy a good PSU you retards.
>>55311455
>what kind of shithole has these problems?
Anywhere with above ground power lines
>>55308608
but far more expensive. upses are kind of cheap (relatively) till you need one that can manage 700watt+
>>55302780
wisconsin here, longest uptime i ever had on a computer was 3 months, usually we have a small 1-2 second power out every month due to storms, or first snow, winter its most stable summer its least.
realistically, we have no "powerout" s but we had a transformer in town die a year or so back, and that kicked power out for around 5 hours in the middle of the night, and we had a bad brown out a few months prior to that, likely a precursor to the transformer death. besides that, we had a tornado take out power for about 20 minutes, and when around 20 years before that, we had mid summer power out, the town had a 20-50% population boost just before winter, and heating id done through gass cheapest where i am, so when the first hot day of summer hit and everyone's ac went on at once, BOOM, power out for the day. week later we got an upgraded transformer so its all good now.
>>55303155
and when one of them goes down or fucks up its a 3day - 2 week adventure in finding the problem, whereas if its above ground, its less then an hour most of the time.
>>55304253
id still put a surge protector between my computer and power supply just in case the battery fucked up or something went wrong, would it help? probably not but piece of mind.
>>55303285
because power is either government or private and in either case, nothing you can do... what, you have a few second long power outs a year? you going to uproot yourself and move out of their power influence for that? fuck no, most normal people would at most, get a generator or backup battery for the house as its FAR fucking cheaper than moving.
>>55314289
because most people are cucks
you have to get your retarded community to protest on the streets
>but who am i kidding that´s never going to happen
>>55305226
if you want to be able to claim insurance if something fucks up you do, or you have to pay one to inspect shit after all is said and done.
>>55302711
I don't live in a third world country.
I get pretty frequent power cuts since I live in bumfuck nowhere and storms are bound to cause some shit to happen, but I've never once had any problems with my equipment.
Is this an American thing or something? I'm legit curious. I don't think anyone I know have one of those.
>>55302711
>not having surge protection built into your motherboard
lel
>>55314318
again, no one is going to give much of a shit unless the power outs are frequent and major inconveniences. most places at most have 1 second of power out every now and then, and when a real powerout hits, no one is throwing a bitch fit because shit happens at the best of times.
I have a UPS but it's only connected to my server. I've got surge protectors for everything else in case of lightning strikes, though. I have my doubts over how effective they'd be, but better than nothing.
>>55302711
Because I have a good PSU that has ample enough surge protection so a thunderstorm doesn't fry the computer.
Plus we had 1 single power outage here in the past 10 years.
>>55302780
Netherlands here
Have an outage about 2-3 times a year in this part of town, had only once every 5 years in another town
We have a generator, all the other neighboors have candles because it happens often
>>55302711
>living in the third world
I don't live in Africa so I don't need one.
>>55302711
But I do, so you can go fuck yourself.
Besides, even if you don't have one your PSU is the one that takes one for the team in case of voltage spikes and such. If something happens with your power grid and your whole rig gets fucked, it's your fault for skimping on a PSU and getting one with no protection.
Does anyone else just unplug their equipment and take a break when a storm starts getting loud? I don't really miss much when I'm offline anyway.
>>55314812
No. I've never had anything ever happen to any of my things due to a power outage, even if I get them 4-5 times a year.
>>55302861
>You know that you can charge the battery?
>>55303007
>implying the chance for breaking hardware is anywhere near big enough to justify hundreds of dollars ESPECIALLY on good, expensive hardware
>implying all hardware breaks at the same time
>implying important files aren't stored somewhere else entirely anyway
For this kind of thing I have an insurance. Not just for the pc, but for stolen bikes, washing machines flooding my home ruining everything, lightning strike, housefire etc. All for less than a shitty ups costs
>>55302711
>What's your excuse, /g/? Just waiting for that power outage or surge to turn your thousands of dollars worth of equipment into expensive paperweights?
>Living in a country that has regular power outages.
What is this, the third world? The last power outage in my city (and by city I mean about 2 million inhabitants) happened 2005
>>55316067
>The last power outage in my city (and by city I mean about 2 million inhabitants) happened 2005
maybe for the entire city.
My county has a power outage live map they run, at almost any time during the day I can go check and find at least 2-3 outages in the area with 50-100 customers affected. They aren't huge outages generally, but these happen daily.
Then every 3-6 months we get a storm big enough to cause some more widespread outages where 10-20k+ people will be without power for a day or so.
Shit happens, and I highly doubt your city has had ZERO outages in a decade, that just isn't possible simply because at a certain point shit happens, someone hits a power pole, a transformer is struck by lightning, etc. It might not effect YOUR power, but I promise there isn't a snowballs chance in hell your entire city has been immune to power outages for over a decade.
>>55314091
why don't people put in diagnostics along the wire?
>>55302711
>data corruption
Use a modern OS with a modern file system.
>data loss
Backups.
Also, unless you're a NEET, you won't always be there to shut your computer down properly when a power outage occurs. As if power outages aren't rare enough.
>power surge
A simple surge protector will do. Not to mention that the effectiveness of surge protectors is questionable, like others have pointed out.
>not living in the edge
>>55314091
that might be true but the chance of it getting damaged underground is far lower than above ground
>>55309210
lol
i live in germany and power outages usually happen every few years here as well
>>55302802
It's unlikely that it's not kicking in fast enough, rather most cheap UPSs use "modified sine wave" output and that can trip the protection circuit in your PSU. It's something to do with power factor correction but I can't explain it. All I know is that pure sine wave output UPSs are recommended for this reason. Having said that, I've run around 20-30 PCs of various brands and several macs over the course of 10 years on APC Back-UPS and never had an issue wherein they don't have pure sine wave output.
>>55314812
I never used to, then one day lightning struck the roof aerial, jumped to the power cables in the loft and fried the TV, modem, switch, DVR, and whilst the network card was smoked, the PC itself was fine. So since that day I fear the wrath of odin.
>>55317652
It's because the power doesn't go down often enough in a underground system to justify the cost of diagnostics. It's also not that hard to trouble shoot.
All the transformers are above ground so you can open the enclosure and take readings. If a house isn't powered and the transformer output is it's the wiring to the house. If the transformer is powered but the output is not energized it's the transformer. If the transformer isn't powered you look upstream. If the whole neighborhood is out you find the part that is common to the whole neighborhood.
It's simple shit really.
>buy ups after power kept randomly going out for a couple of days
>power stops going out immediately after
I swear the Jews did it
>>55302906
I just turn off my PC by pulling the switch on my power Strip After i saved all my data literally never happened something in like 10 years
Lmao how is that snake oil going?
>>55304106
>how to set your house on fire.png
>>55320204
>I know nothing about electricity.tiff
>>55318029
I had like 2 really short outages in 23 years in Paris, France
>>55318029
I live in America and I haven't had a power outage in 10 years.
Are startec ups good? I'm thinking on getting pic related for a 750watt pc but I don't know if their quality is good.
tfw the only time i've had hardware failure due to power issues was when my UPS died, causing it to switch the computer connected to it on and off rapidly, killing one of the hdd's
>>55323600
forgot the funniest part: there wasn't even a power cut or anything
>>55302711
My power brownouts or goes off for 10-15 min maybe once or twice a month, always at the most inopportune time.
I got a Cyberpower 1500PFCLCD and it's been working great. I have my modem, router, computer, monitor, and work laptop dock plugged into it and (while I haven't tested it) it *says* I'll get about an hour's worth of uptime out of it.
>tfw dont give a fuck about surge protectors or anything
>visit parents during summer
>Outskirts of a small town, gets internet through radio (which is fine, just adds 20ms onto everything and is only 5mb up and down, but at least it works)
>sudden lightning storm passes by
>Lightning hits the god damn roof
>house rumbles and shakes
>doesnt catch fire, but a loud explosion like a lightbulb exploding is heard from within the house
>the internet radio modems power adapter exploded
>everything else had surge protectors plugged in and was fine due to my dad being paranoid about that stuff
>without internet for a week
It was like living in the dark ages. Think I'm going to buy a lot of surge protectors for my own apartment just in case. It really opened my eyes because previously I didnt really give a shit.
>>55323600
The power at my parents' house is the worst. It's killed 2 or 3 computers completely and blown the modem/wifi in at least 2 others.
>>55302711
I live in LA county and I can't remember the last time we had a full blown power out.
>>55324404
I also live in LA county, about 3 weeks ago I didnt have power for 5 hours. Again about 2 months before I didnt have power for like 10 hours.
>>55324430
Where you at anon? Van Nuys here
>>55324518
Venice Beach
>>55324518
Lakewood
>>55324530
You absolute lucky motherfucker. Summer is fucking hell in the valley right now
>>55324583
Yea I was in the Fresno area a couple of days ago and it was pretty fucking brutal.
>>55317772
>you won't always be there to shut your computer down properly when a power outage occurs. As if power outages aren't rare enough.
Good UPS's have an usb port to signal your computer to auto power off or go into hibernation.
Has anyone here ever even had a system die on them due to a power outage?
>>55324039
no surge protector will save it from a lightning strike actually hitting your shit
>>55309140
>Enjoy the madrush to save everything and shut down before the tiny batteries drain in mere minute
Ill take "What is UPS shutdown software" for $200 Alex...
>>55317772
>Also, unless you're a NEET, you won't always be there to shut your computer down properly when a power outage occurs. As if power outages aren't rare enough.
That's why you have a generator that kicks on as soon as the power goes out
if you have FTTH internet then as long as you can keep your end of the fiber lit, you'll have internet.
The money could be better spent elsewhere.
I only have a power outage maybe once every few years and thats it.
>>55302780
Hawaii here
Never had a power outage since ever. I do have one though just in case
i have the UPS in op's image, and holy fuck it's so broken. not only do power failures knock my shit out, but it frequently just lets out a dying beep and turns all my shit off
My excuse is having a proper PSU.
And also not living in a country where a rodent biting the wire sets the house on fire.
>>55328890
You realize you have to replace the batteries every few years right?
>>55328750
>if you have FTTH internet then as long as you can keep your end of the fiber lit, you'll have internet.
This is true of all internet connections, really.
What are the chances that a power outage could actually DAMAGE stuff though? My power goes out maybe 10-20 times a year and a lot of that happens while my PC is on.
>>55329167
If your power goes out THAT often you will likely experience damage to an electronic device at some point, that doesn't necessarily mean it will be your PC, or the damage will be catastrophic, but since you can't predict this shit, it's better to be safe than sorry, especially if you get that many power outages a year.
$100 for peace of mind is nothing, especially when a decent UPS will last you a decade or two if you replace the batteries every 3-5 years.
>>55329100
not with my VDSL connection
>>55329390
That's probably because your telco doesn't keep the node up.
>>55305004
First world nations bury wires.
>>55329449
America doesn't
>>55329449
You can't just snap your fingers and revamp the entire fucking infrastructure, anon. Also keep in mind that many of the US's states are the size of many nations.
>>55328882
Doesn't Hawaii get hurricanes?
dont want to replace the battery every 5 years
>>55320122
SSDs tend to be less hardy when it comes to power outages
>>55302711
is there some noob
all i have is a ps4, a single monitor, and my 550 watts PSU powered PC.
>>55329718
Not really, no.
>tfw 190 day uptime
haven't lost power in a few years here but the occasional surges do come lasting a second or so
the UPS solves this problem though
Any good aftermarket UPS battery brands?
>>55302711
My ISP has equipment coverage so if shit gets fried because of a power surge they pay for it.
>>55332527
>using equipment from ISP
nice meme
>>55302711
I got tired of buying new batteries every 3 years
>Just waiting for that power outage or surge to turn your thousands of dollars worth of equipment into expensive paperweights?
A properly grounded surge protector is all you need. Can't you into electrical wiring standards?
>>55302711
UPSs are only needed in datacenters. Your parents basement is not a datacenter as much as you want it to be.
>>55302855
Pffffffff
Where I live, power goes out at least once in two months, sometimes it gles out two days i a row.
>>55302711
I do use them
>>55302711
living in a first world country
Ups has less surge protection than a surge protector that costs 10x less. Why would you get a ups. Stupid
>>55302711
I don't live in a shit tier country.
Any UPS for a decent $50-60 price?
I live in an area where power goes out every two weeks. :/
Fuck Utah.
>>55336146
You can get a ~300w unit for that price, it will provide ~3-5 minutes of power to a computer.
If you want 500-600w capacity you will need to spend around $80-100.
850w capacity will cost $150-200.
I personally have a 1500VA unit rated for 865w and will power my computer and monitors for about 20-30 minutes of moderate/light load.
Is this the most "merchant" thing in the tech world?
I've never seen or even heard anyone ever having any sort of trouble because the power went off.
Have 3 actually, one for my NAS, one for my Computer, and one for my TV.
There is no reason not to have one on anything important these days.
>>55336244
Fried my mobo once, then the next one fried my GPU. Lucky it was an AM3 mobo and a 7770.
Got myself an i5-6600k and a 1070 and ain't no way I'm risking any of these guys.
>>55336244
Then I assume you're underage or so technologically inept that you have survived this long in your life without even HEARING about dirty power, voltage regulation, etc.
Dirty power is the main reason DLP projection bulbs blow, you get voltage drop and instead of turning off it tried to compensate and ends up giving the bulb too little (or too much) voltage and it fries.
Just because you personally haven't had it happen to you doesn't mean you shouldnt be aware of the possibility of it happening.
>>55302780
My last time was when i plugged my broken raclettegrill in.
>>55336294
Your telling me, just imagine if that fucktard knew how easily voltage sags can fuck your computer. Everyone knows about surges but no one thinks about sags.
>>55336345
He's the guy who if that ever did happen would chalk it up to something else and buy a whole new PC to just to have it happen again a year or two later.
>I dont understand, it just keeps dying for no reason at all
