Will sex robots really happen in the future?
You can already fuck robots.
I'm positive, that everyone on /g/ will know that this will become a thing. It will gain back lash to the nu-males and looked down upon by women. But it will become a thing. We'll probably see the early consumer stages in our life times.
How long do we achieve an XJ5?
>>55262395
>he thinks general AI will be a thing within the next 80 years
lolno
and if were not talking about AI, why not get a realdoll and stick a vibrating fleshlight in her hole
>>55262417
Of course, wasn't talking about AI just a robot. And with a Robot we can have some autonomous features. Less work for the user, just sit back and enjoy the motors.
Can you repeat the question?
>>55262345
I hope so.
>>55262345
It will take a long time, you won't see it.
go see the onahole general in /jp/
>>55262345
Yes, but you will not have money to buy them.
>>55262672
You're not the boss of me now
>>55262345
all i need is VR headset and my hand
i don't think full body robot would ever be as good as fapping
even google cardboard VR porn is pretty good
>>55262345
Already here now.
But the kind of thing you'd find in Ex Machina is still, optimistically, over a century off.
Of course sexbots will happen. There's no question about it at all. We're so desperate for sexbots that just the pieces are good enough. Plz, just put that fake vagina in a can and give it to me!
>>55262345
is that the spice girls
>>55262345
The dick will find a way. It always does
>>55262345
I hope not.
Yes. The question is how socially acceptable it will be.
![Loving an Onahole (Comic MILF 2013-02)[Fue] [English]{desudesu}_COMIC_MILF_2013_02_003.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cPZcecm.jpg "Loving an Onahole (Comic MILF 2013-02)[Fue] [English]{desudesu}_COMIC_MILF_2013_02_003.jpg")
I sure hope so.
>>55263624
So, $20000? Sign me the fuck up.
>>55263648
That would be fucking cheap
>>55263648
Well it's just a doujin and the twist is that it's a real girl.
Actual sexbots you're looking at hundreds of thousands.
Still cheaper than real women.
>>55263668
>and the twist is that it's a real girl.
>implying
>>55263648
I seriously doubt something like in that manga would cost just $20k.
>>55263668
>Still cheaper than real women.
I had a relationship with a few years older woman when I was a total NEET.
I didn't have a job, occasionally making money, and I lived at her place for 4 years, she paid for everything.
Like a sugar mamma, but she was just a few years older of me and hot as fuck, she just liked me too much.
So I don't know, women seem pretty cheap to me (free).
>>55263683
Well it's japan. It's like his neighbour or childhood friend or something.
>>55263606
why?
>>55263716
One of his neighbors had an onahole, I can't remember the last time I read it, but it's implied that the nee-chan he used to play with as he grew up was a similar model.
Sage for /jp/?
>>55263731
Because.
>>55263714
Apart from made up stories I mean
Sexbots will be a thing within our lifetimes. They'll cost about the same as a new car and will have as much variation in looks and features as them too and will constantly be enhanced as time goes on.
If somebody thinks humanity /won't/ build an army of literal sex machines as soon as it feasibly can they're retarded.
>>55263572
>>55263624
about 2 gens away
>>55263798
they better be under $10k
>>55263787
Which ones?
>>55263998
>>55263787
Not made up, if you think that's anything special, you should go out more.
>>55263798
>>55263969
There won't be anything "costing almost as a car" price things in our lifetime (40~ years in the future).
Don't fool yourself, go fuck a real woman.
for a sex robot to be successful, you want what?
something that resembles a human, with powerful enough AI to respond to dirty talk?
Or intelligent enough to move on its own?
Or intelligent enough to get up, navigate to the bathroom and clean itself when you are done?
I mean there is a long way to get a fully automatic sex robot that will respond to you.
You might as well ask that it should be able to cook and serve you beer.
What is the point of sex robots?
It is doubtful that you can get a girlfriend at the same time, so it will be one or the other.
And you can't play magic with your sex robot so what is the point?
>>55262345
>thinks you're an inferior lifeform
>several times stronger than you
You're not having sex with it any time soon even if it magically came to be tomorrow.
I hope all that circuit boards motors in the robot won't weigh 600 lbs
>>55263714
You can get laid by just taking a girl out for a walk and laying on the charm. Worked for me and it was free.
Now if we had the technology to stream virtual reality straight to the brain then we'd get some real good sex/fap machines.
>>55262345
We need to defeat feminism first
>>55264626
Think how mad feminists would be.
Even if they get themselves male sex bots, they would be so triggered that males don't need them and don't pay attention to them anymore.
some people already are robots
>>55264683
They will probably just relabel rape again so it means "regret of sex, unwanted comments, or treating sex robot as an object"
but maybe nothing will change. If you look at the current feminists, they are clearly not the ones who are getting whistled at when they stomp through the streets.
>implying sexbot will want to have sex with you
>implying there won't be cutter in vag
>>55264844
>>55264568
Kek, think about it, cucked by a sex doll.
>>55265189
there are probably people like that in here...
>h-hei c-cutie
>SORRY# DOES NOT COMPLY, REPEAT
>u-ugh, I-I'm Anon, y-you are p-pretty
>DOES NOT COMPLY, INTRUDER ALERT, SHUTTING DOWN, CALL MAINTENANCE.
They'll devalue pussy so they'll be banned.
DELETE THIS THREAD
>>55262345
well jesus, god willling
>>55262497
automation is not an easy thing. Just look at how the robots that exist in factories. They all have oe job because they is all robots are good at.
The more jobs a thing has to do the harder it gets and no fucking is not one job.
Think of it this way. Take a person and blindfold him and tell him to make a peanut butter sandwhich. The first command you give him is one job and robots can do that one thing very very easily and constantly.
The more thing you tell him, the more the jobs, the more difficult the robot is to make.
You will find there ae a fucking ton of jobs just to make a peanutbutter sandwhich.
You want to make a robot fuck you? well, unless you are weaker then a peanut butter sandwhich in bed I don't see that happening.
>>55265319
One job, to nut me off.
>>55263008
Life is so unfair.
>>55263481
RealDoll Power!
>>55265472
If it makes you feel any better, they divorced over a year ago and are still dealing with lawyers..
>>55265329
Ty for this post
>>55265565
You're very welcome kind sir.
>>55262395
If 9's 16 or something, how fucking old is she?
Also shit, gotta watch that show again.
>>55263716
Nigga do you even read?
It just looked like his neighbor, that's why he thought it was hot.
>>55264610
>You can get laid by just taking a girl out for a walk and laying on the charm.
kek Did you forget which website you are on? What you just said, while true, is going to seem like foreign gibberish to much of 4chan's userbase. Did I say foreign? Uh oh! That was all wrong. Foreign implies that with a little study, and effort it could be understood, and perhaps fluency even attained. No, what I really should have said was alien, because it is absolutely incomprehensible to your typical autist. Even the CIA niggers who monitor the site are going to be totally baffled, despite being space aliens themselves.
>>55263873
But what the fuck was that first gen? I've never seen anything like it.
>>55265614
A wall with a hole, kek
>>55265614
Homemade fleshlight, it's a mold you make with kitchen supplies. Saw it in the anime shimoneta.
>>55264493
>There won't be anything "costing almost as a car" price things in our lifetime
Yes there will.
And it will be banned in many countries thanx to feminists.
Mfw
>>55265645
Huh, so it goes "Homemade, commercial version, homemade, commercial version"...
>>55264493
You're thinking about it all wrong. You are thinking of it like they'll basically be realdolls, but more sophisticated. Not really. I'd bet that they would be biological, at least partially. Think about the sort of medical research and breakthroughs we're seeing today. 3D printed organs, in vitro fertilization, genetic engineering, (re)programing the human brain*, shit like that.
There are women who for whatever reason have non-working organs, or, lets face it trans-women who don't have the organs at all. Artificial wombs are on the horizon. They will be a thing within the next few decades. It won't be long before someone realizes, "hey! we can use this technology to make sex robots." It won't be that huge of a jump.
*I'm not talking conspiracy, MKULTRA bullshit here either. Neurologists are actively working on ways to erase unwanted memories from people who have been traumatized, or recover memories in amnesiac patients, and it's actually already been done, and documented with a very promising degree of success. It's something that will be common within a decade. Of course altering a person's memories can, and will lead to abuse of the technology, and you'd have to be naive, or retarded to think otherwise. In time I'm sure it could also be used to program a 3d printed, biological brain for a bio-mechanical sex robot, from scratch.
In the not too distant future, they say we'll all be able to easily, and instantly download new knowledge and skills too, rather than needing to learn it the old fashioned way. We really are on the verge of starting to merge ourselves with machines, and completely control our own evolution.
>>55265524
Not really. I mean aside from finding it humorous, I don't care. I can't say that I'm surprised though. I mean his face says it all.
>>55265909
I believe they won't be sexbots, but more like bio-engineered machines with organic composition, you know, synthetic skin and muscle tissue that mimics how ours work. Along with a form of homeostasis to match our body temperature
As in the body itself is organic but the internals, such as what ever method it uses to store and release energy, the AI housing, the artificial womb, and wet-nursing function, will be all machine (well maybe not the artificial womb).
Engineered lifeforms with bionic augmentations
I actually plan to go to college to learn Bionics
>>55266579
Really I could go on and on about how the body can be constructed, how it might work, how it would need to work to satisfy the "needs" of the end user, ethical problems and social impact on society, even disposal and reproduction/recycling/remanufacturing.
gonna go by TimeOfEve for the rest of this thread, based on the short anime about this subject matter, minus the actual sex.
>>55265824
Basically. 5th gen will also be homemade, sexbots that can get pregnant
>>55264610
What the fuck is "the charm"?
>>55263854
>Aah, that was a good rape
>>55266762
not be ugly, fat, poor or any combination of the three
>>55266880
>sunken cheeks
>protruding cheekbones
>cold to the touch
>cock-eyed
If I wanted to fuck a dead body I'd just slip the local Mortician a few bucks
>>55266955
My observations are pretty objective and
I can prove all 4 of my points
Just saying I wouldn't fuck something so similar to a recently deceased body
Why did you kill my debating partner, Janitor-chan?
I didn't win the conversation yet.
This will haunt me for the rest of my days.
>>55262345
The governments are already banning them. No.
>>55266744
Bio-engineered catgirls most likely
>>55267111
No Janitor-chan involved. And I'm still here.
>>55267146
>so have I told you how well-engineered synthetic sex cyborgs will almost entirely eliminate sex crimes, and make people better in the long run?
>>55267327
>I fully agree, people will be less crazy when sex is post scarcity
>>55262345
But anon, I already have a tulpa, and I don't have to worry that radical feminists will try to take her away.
How is this a question? They already exist.
>>55262345
"Sex robot" is a very limiting term. "Artificial companion" is much better in my opinion.
Artificial companion does housework, daily conversation, companionship and sex for you and can exist indefinitely if maintained (and even if not maintained it can be always repaired). Also it can guard you when you go outside.
Artificial companions will make it possible for everyone to get attention they need!
>>55266667
We have much in common then, anon! I am a programmer/diy roboticist interested in robot waifus.
If you want you can visit us at #simwaifu @ irc.rizon.net to talk about robot waifus as much as you like!
>>55263798
They'll cost about the same as a new car.
This is actually very reasonable because mechanically an android is simpler than, say, an automatic car gearbox. Also an android weights 40x less, so it's cheaper materials-wise (androids don't require any rare materials to produce them).
The only reason of huge prices for current robots is lack of true mass production/mass market.
>>55267380
>>55267146
>>55266744
>>55266667
>>55266579
Guess I'll start elaborating on What I was talking about on my first post
First when talking about sex bots meant for human "use", we need to seperate ourselves from the idea that they would only be used for sex. Because let's face it, trying to market highly sophisticated bio-androids as just sex robots is just bad. They would be multipurpose maid bio-androids capable of cooking, cleaning, speech, and nursing (with working "fun" parts).
There will be 2 types of maid bio-androids Multipurpose and Maternal. The mutlipurpose one would be commercially available, but not sold as a completed unit. The second Maternal one would obviously need to be able to gestate and would have to be capable of both producing it's own "egg" and accepting a donor egg (organic or engineered). The maternal bio-android will most likely have a few restrictions applied to ownership, being able have 100s of Maternal bio-androids all pregnant could cause an problem as you could guess.
Though to clarify about the first type not being sold as a complete unit, It would be most economically feasible for companies to sell single use kits to fabricate 1 Maid bio-android.
Because obviously a company wouldn't want their customers to become able to mass produce their own bio-androids, without someway of gaining profit of each 1. The kit itself would be a self-assembly type, as in it will have a core and simply grow around that core, into whatever body you have requested the company to program into the core. The kit might be a vat or it might simply be a sack-like egg, literally like hatching an egg.
Of course since this is so similar to a real life form there are many ethical hurdles that need to be addressed, especially concerning it's intelligence.
>>55267624
>Super advanced humanoid robot
>Takes a picture of it with a flip phone
Okay, Japan.
>>55267696
>Because let's face it, trying to market highly sophisticated bio-androids as just sex robots is just bad. They would be multipurpose maid bio-androids capable of cooking, cleaning, speech, and nursing (with working "fun" parts).
Exactly!
There is so much potential prosperity in the world where humans are not the only service labor source!
>>55264610
>just talk to her lmao
Thanks Chad
>>55267624
>>55267641
>>55267542
>>55267681
The second thing I wanted to explore is the ethics of owning human-like life-forms, but honestly I'm not even 30% sure if there has even been any elaborations on this subject
So I'll just have to focus on how we go from:
Hard, Cold, and Noisy
to
Soft, Warm, and Squishy
The short answer here is bio-engineering, to clarify bio-engineering to me means build an organic life-form, or at least organic parts. We need to be able to perfectly clone human skin and muscle structures and study how to send deliberate and complex sequences to the muscle to move them the same way humans use them naturally.
The biggest issue in this, I believe, Is would the bio-android's AI be capable of machine learning, or would it be modeled into an expert system?
Will we give the bio-android the ability to learn on its own, or do we pre-program human behavior and actions?
This is the biggest issue to me and would result in the start of an ethics issue.
And kinda reminds me of pic related
(Also if anyone has a better name for bio-android please tell me, as bio-android doesn't seem to roll off the tongue)
>>55268058
forgot to add
One of the ethics issues would be how to define what classifies as a human.
In the future when tech gets more advanced will will start to have bionic implants and augmentations be the norm and simply saying: "a human is a being capable of independent thought" won't cut it anymore especially when tech is advanced enough to grow life-forms and integrate highly advanced AIs into them. What separates an engineered human from a born bio-android?
Do we go full Megaman X universe and give the reploids rights as well?
Do we purposely put limitations on how advance an AI can be in order to avoid this dilemma?
Do we bow down to our new loli catgirl bio-android overlords?
Why not just get a real doll?
>>55268058
>>55268299
I hope we won't fall into ethics slump here, it may hinder the progress forever. Looks like westerners focus on ethics issues too much because they already live a comfortable lifestyle and have nothing to lose by slowing progress down. It is unfair to ~5 billions of people living in underdeveloped world, people that could benefit a lot (A HUGE LOT) from faster pace of progress.
I think machine learning systems do not hold any moral weight (unless you have fallen for http://petrl.org/ meme), and we should use them to make our life better.
Expert systems are outdated, it's machine learning with some handcrafted behaviors/biases nowadays.
Your biotechnological idea is very interesting, I have thought about it myself. It could have ethical problems only if you go with a natural brain instead of a computer with machine learning software. But with current state of art in synthetic biology it may be a very long before humans will be able to engineer multicellular organisms. It's much more practical to focus on robotics systems that are already here.
>>55268058
>>55268299
It will be a glorious shitstorm. The retarded Europe is already considering having robots paying social security tax and the bots are dumb as shit.
They already exist if you want to spend incredible amounts of money on them. They aren't intelligent though and only do what you program them to do (obviously).
Within around 50 years I think we'll have autonomous robots that can do simple tasks (including pleasuring you), but they definitely won't be intelligent. We're probably a century or more away from truly intelligent machines, possibly even longer if we don't get off our asses and start making better CPU architectures with better materials than silicon.
Why do you degenerates feel the need to stick your dicks into a power socket anyway? Just become asexual and start being productive, instead of being so occupied with holes your penis fits into.
>>55268485
How do you even define "productive"? I consider sitting around doing nothing all day and then jerking off at night to be a productive day. It's completely subjective.
>>55268494
>How do you even define "productive"?
Contribute to society
>I consider sitting around doing nothing all day and then jerking off at night to be a productive day.
This only shows how Western individuality is a failed ideology.
>>55265585
Not sure You can consider age in the XJ series. XJ1 is the oldest model, but yet is still a baby. Unless they're programed to think they're a certain age.
>>55268506
>Contribute to society
That's such a vague comment. Even though I sit on my ass doing nothing all day, I still contribute to society by helping people online, posting accurate reviews of shit I buy, purchasing things, paying my taxes, etc. What kind of career would I need to have to be considered "contributing to society"? No matter what kind of job I get, I'll only feel like I'm perpetuating a system I don't believe in.
The real problem is the global economic system, but there's literally jack shit I can actually do about that, so here I sit, waiting for change that will never come, killing time indulging in my hobbies.
>>55268639
>a NEET tries to justify his laziness, selfishness and loneliness
>>55268639
Who contributes more to society, a doctor or someone who sits at home fapping to taiwanese tapestry and writes "reviews" (aka calling people faggots online) for gadgets he buys using his allowance (aka parent's money)?
>>55268699
Wagecuck here. I agree with the anon. The only reason I choose wage slavery is because I don't want to be a burden to my family any longer, they almost worked themselves to death twice and I don't want them dying because they have no choice but to work to survive. There are so many things to do but having more than half your day dedicated to fattening some guy's wallet is disgusting.
>>55268740
If you had spent your time building skills and educating yourself instead of wasting it, you wouldn't have been stuck in a dead-end job with a shitty boss.
>>55265319
Of course, it will be hard no one said it was easy. And no one said it will happen soon.
>>55268470
>Within around 50 years
>most people here right now will then be between 70 and 80yo
>>55268754
You misunderstand. I don't particularly hate the boss or the job, it even has nice pay. I just dislike spending more than half of my 16 hours preparing and working. That's about it.
>>55268829
Well, you should probably try to make some career choices that will land you a job you simply love (and don't consider a chore) I guess.
For me, my salary doesn't really matter as long as I can make a living. I manage to pay my student debt and mortgage with my current salary, so even if it is a fraction of what I used to make in addition to working a LOT more than I used to do, I'm still much happier and I love getting up in the morning and go to work.
>>55268699
I'm not lonely. I have you faggots to keep me company after all. After browsing /h/ since my early teens, real women just don't do it for me anymore anyway (thankfully, since it saves me a lot of money and headache).
>>55268731
Not everyone can be a doctor or a scientist, anon. If you asked me what I'd really like to do, it would be cool to contribute to development of outer space. Too bad NO ONE GIVES A FUCK and they aren't actually trying to build any infrastructure up there. I'd totally volunteer to be a grunt snapping together space colony parts. I'd also volunteer to live in one of those concept super high tech cities but no one's building those either. What are the choices of career these days? Learn a trade, become a code monkey, become a middle management business shithead, learn economics and try to game the system (which is a gamble), or get into debt slavery by going to college and trying to get an actual career (without any guarantee you'll actually be to get a job in that field).
>>55268740
Someone gets it. I'm probably going to be forced to get a job in the next several months since my saved up money is going to run out (yes, I actually earned it myself by working!), but I sure as hell don't want to work a 40 hour week; I'll probably sign up somewhere for a 20 hour week.
>>55268872
>Not everyone can be a doctor or a scientist
I almost failed high school calculus. I'm currently doing a PhD in computer engineering.
>If you asked me what I'd really like to do, it would be cool to contribute to development of outer space. Too bad NO ONE GIVES A FUCK and they aren't actually trying to build any infrastructure up there.
That still doesn't rule out other stuff, there will always be a need for better satellites etc.
>What are the choices of career these days? Learn a trade, become a code monkey, become a middle management business shithead, learn economics and try to game the system (which is a gamble), or get into debt slavery by going to college and trying to get an actual career (without any guarantee you'll actually be to get a job in that field).
Why is it always about making the most money? I'm >>55268867, as long as I manage to pay my bills and provide my own food, I don't give a fuck that I'm broke most of the time.
>>55262345
Probably im 20 years or so.
Atleast for loners. NOT instead of real women.
>>55268912
Hey I don't really give a fuck about making the most money either. I'd be perfectly happy in a single bedroom house as long as I could afford food, water, electricity, internet, and entertainment. I only need to upgrade my PC and game consoles every 5 years or so and other gadget purchases are few and far between.
Universal income can't come fast enough.
>>55269209
I don't even own a TV and the only computer in my house is the Macbook Pro the university gave me.
I used to have a gaming station and a TV + some consoles, but honestly, after throwing that stuff out and focusing on getting somewhere with my life/career, I'm a lot happier. I don't spend a lot of time at home, but when I do I usually play drums or guitar or tinker with electronics and Arduino stuff for fun.
I know it's a huge meme on this board and I honestly enjoy playing vidya every now and then, but since I stopped doing that at home for hours upon hours and put that focus into improving my life instead, I became a lot happier.
>>55269209
>Universal income can't come fast enough.
AKA
>I want someone else to provide for me while I'm wasting my life playing games
>>55262345
its all possible and if you dont pay, they cut your dick off :D
>>55269466
>not installing gentoo on it
>"...don't ever leave me, oppa"
>>55262345
They're already here, man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27uqGzvdM2o
>"oppa, where are you going?"
>"what did i do wrong..."
>>55267707
I think the artist meant that we already have those sex robots
Maybe it would be possible to "simulate" enough consciousness to make a sexdoll feel real without having to solve all the insanely hard problems of AI. What I mean by this: You don't need to discuss about Shakespeare while fucking nor does the robot have to fetch and open a jar to hand you a pickle. The basic functionality that's absolutely necessary might be much easier to accomplish soon than intricate artificial intelligence and consciousness.
>>55262497
Just get a silicon doll, they're pricy but they work.
>>55269793
You can always just use a chatbot algorithm, like Tay.
>>55269843
Don't forget to add a machine vision program to it so it can run different chat algorithms based on who it is familiar with.
I'm guessing they'll arrive around 2035.
There's too much money to be made in converting every industry on the planet to robots and AI, so the tech will get there.
Pic is basic cooking robot arms coming out next year.
>>55265909
You are way too reasonable and honest to be on 4chan
>>55265909
>In the not too distant future, they say we'll all be able to easily, and instantly download new knowledge and skills too, rather than needing to learn it the old fashioned way. We really are on the verge of starting to merge ourselves with machines, and completely control our own evolution.
It'd be super convenient. I like to learn, but there's so much and so little time.
Virgin Alert
>>55271036
Thanks for the free bump. Now kindly fuck off.
>>55265319
We already have learning machines. Sex isn't hard to replicate even compared to folding laundry, at least marketable vanilla sex.
>>55267707
>>55269776
No, I think this is just an old image from around 2006-2008.
Besides the flip phone, the manual for the doll on the floor says "intol CORE" which is referring for the Intel Core Duo/Core 2 Duo from that era.
>>55262345
Yes
As for which countries will have them: probably not murrika.
>>55268811
>will still be on /g/ discussing technology, provided it exists
>>55267624
>intel inside
>botnet waifu
>>55270950
I doubt learning by direct brain downloading would be any fun though.
>>55262358
>>55262363
Thanks for settling it.
>>55263624
sex robots like in hentai are gonna happen like 10 years after we die.
i'm convinced of this and it makes me versy sad
>>55272343
>amd version
>artificial skin sloughs off due to heat
>>55267696
These sex robots better be customizable/modifiable. I want absolutely unrealistic disproportionately huge ass and big tits. Otherwise I'd just fuck a real girl.
>>55272542
Some fun might be left out, but learning can sometimes be a hassle. Getting millions of lines of code would be amazingly useful for building software.
>>55268912
you are not rying to have a conversation, you're just simply pushing your preconceived bullshit without any regards to what the other anon is trying to tell you.
You probably won't ever 'understand' him because you think his way of life is repulsive, thus you'll never allow yourself to hypothetically shift into his subjective perspective.
there's no point in this debate.
>>55265943
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>>55272784
>Nvidia version
>Has 3.5 out of 4 limbs
>>55262345
Every sci-fi novel and movie of 70s-80s and 90s have this idea
Why they insist when is impossible the make a giant masturbation toy (the sex robots) in the real world?
>>55273986
KEK
>>55273855
that's a tall order.
We don't know how the mind [consiousness] works. We don't even have a a solid baseline theoretical approach yet to build upon. It's a field that sits entirely on the metaphysical conjectures.
besides, e.g., there's someone who has a firm comprehension on some very abstract theorem but he got there by discovering his own iconographic metaphor while there's another one who has the same grasp on said subject but got there through hard, cold, classical logic. They'll only understand each other in regards of the upper levels of that theorem but will bicker with each other till their deaths over the basics.
Anyway, this argument only supports the fact that an universal to the human mind will be extremely difficult, but the thing is, we don't even have a single clue to what the baseline is so we're still a long way away from the very start.
>>55274167
Oh that's a given. I don't see this shit every being available in my lifetime, but predicting general technology advancements is pretty much impossible.
>>55274167
>>55274199
>we don't even have a single clue to what the baseline is
that was kinda stupid. of course we have clues, ranging from religious texts to the latest in neuroscience (philosophy and even physics, actually). But nothing that could consolidate a firm foundational theorem yet.
Why doesn't /g/ make it's own waifu software? /diy/ can make the robot.
>>55273924
Shut up, you butthurt NEET. Nobody cares.
>>55275046
You can bet your ass someone will make free as in free software for your sexbots.
>>55262345
No, they will be outlawed because robots can't say no
>>55272321
And we don't die before it.
>>55267624
>>55267641
Okay, fuck it, I might as well chip in.
I teach in a school's design tech wing and in my spare time fuck around with robots and shit.
I hardly have much time for it, but love it when I can.
Imma hover around in the IRC channels you're mentioning and stuff.
Anyway, you've all already posted the stuff I usually would, danny choo's smartdoll (I could look at >>55267719 for hours), this little thing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnMbLkIAJBU), everything from robogarage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EliuG5-CbdY) etc.
Fuck it, strategy next post.
>>55276751
So, curious, for a second let's completely forget the moral bullshit, what the hell is anyone here actually doing?
A good start might be nagging danny choo about the smart doll, I mean it'd be fucking worderful to get a parts list of all the stuff in https://nerddorf.tumblr.com/post/46866968617/reblog-how-to-mass-produce-your-own-products (Also pic related), but despite him saying "Compleated prototype" all pics posted so far are obviously just 3d renders.
Anyway, if those parts do exist it'd be great to work out what they are, unless a weeb could scour Akihabara and see what's actually there.
So, what are you guys doing?
>>55276898
Okay, now what I'm doing.
(Except being fed up at the drastic lack of robot parts. Seriously, someone start a kickstarter to buy a FT from robotgarage and tear the thing to bits)
So, we have a lack of parts and a lack of interest, and the best we can really do is spend a couple hundred on a femisapien and replace her guts with an arduino. Perfect.
What I'm working on, being a teacher, is trying to get students interested in robotics again, and, more importantly, doing it in a way that's easily affordable (without compromising and saying a fucking bristlebot's good enough).
I saw a student trying to build a four legged robot with just four servos, one attached to each leg.
Without knees I thought it'd be hard for it to walk, but I decided to build one myself and test how far you can actually push a kneeless design like this.
Anyway, turns out pretty far. I realized it's an excellent task for students as not only does it walk them through some basic construction and electronics, it forces them to think creatively and come up with ideas and solutions themselves.
Another thing this lead to was me googling "Four servo walking robot", which actually gave me nothing like what I was making (Probably because of how fucking dumb it is) and lots of bipeds. This got me thinking about another challenge, working with the least serovs possible.
Digital servos with feedback can cost between $50-200, so a low servo count can seriously bring a bots price down. So as a little thought experiment, what's the smallest number of servos you can use for any given part of a robot without compromising each components independant operation? (See: first robosapien closing its hand when its lower arm moved forwards. None of that shit).
Anyways, it's school holidays now, so that means tons of time for me to play around with this shit before next semester, so I should be able to post a bit here: https://hackaday.io/project/12019-search-for-a-four-servo-walking-robot
>>55276898
Electric motors won't do it, we need bionic muscles. They exist and they are getting better.
>>55277207
Fishing line with nichrome wire all twisted together or something? Too slow.
What have we got that I can build with today?
I see lots of designs using tendons, throw a servo or linear actuator wherever they can fit and just route a wire tendon to wherever the movement is needed.
This isn't a matter of what "We need", it's a matter of what we want and what we have.
We need waifubots. We don't have them. We'll make them.
Do we "Need" bionic muscles?
No. But they'd help so we'll make/buy them.
