>rx490 slightly below a titan x
>rx480 slightly below a gtx980
>rx470 slightly below a gtx970
>rx460 slightly below a gtx960
>rx450 slightly below a gtx950
Looks like AMD is still playing catch-up with nvidia
>>55244183
AMD can't even compete anymore, they're releasing new cards that are slower than the last gen Nvidia cards.
>>55244183
None of those RX cards are even released yet. At least wait 5 days before you start shitposting at maximum speed.
>rx490 slightly below a titan x
Where did you get this one?
>>55244314
Baka~~
>>55244183
Who cares. They are 14nm GPUs that can compete in terms of efficiency. But Nvidia doesn't have anything below 450 € in their current gen price range. Even the 1060 and 1060Ti will be overpriced as hell.
I hope their 480 will be a success.
>slightly below
>costs less than half
I see nothing wrong.
>>55244333
Show me where it says RX490 here.
>>55244333
What I meant is to wait for the cards to be benchmarked by the general public, where there will be ample evidence of heat, power draw, performance, etc, rather than just relying on the same few results that we have gotten.
>Fury X 34% faster than a 980
Naw, that's a crock of shit
>>55244374
>rx480
>87 degrees in furmark
>>55244418
>>55244418
3DMark scores or other benchmarks don't equal real time usage especially considering the different APIs for most games and their inherent inefficiencies.
>>55244452
And I tell you the Fury X is not 34% faster than a 980 is, not even a 980Ti is 34% faster.
Hence the entire benchmark is horseshit
Meanwhile, Vega flagship destroys the 1080Ti.
Oh wait, none of these cards are out yet.
Nice thread, retard.
>>55244443
Perfectly fine. Graphics cards can handle upwards of 100C.
My old 8800GT would hit 103C in Clear Sky (before I put an aftermarket cooler on it and the temps dropped to sub 70).
Sub 90C temps are completely fine.
>>55244464
980Ti is worse than Fury X dumbass. Don't tell me you actually believed it was better thanks to those fucking 720p benchmarks Nvidia shills spammed here for months on end...
>>55244484
Lel no, 980Ti is better than the Fury X, and that's the only superior card Nvidia had last gen.
>>55244497
It trades blows at 1080p, a retarded resolution to be using either card at, but gets decimated on 1440p outside of Goyworks games. At 4k there's literally no competition.
>>55244512
No.
Just admit that Nvidia had a superior card in that price bracket.
when does nouveau get fermi reclocking
>>55244479
It's supposed to be only 150w though, but it's hotter than the gtx1080.
>>55244554
Well yea, the chip is 30% smaller, so the heat is much more dense, which is harder to cool. Still furmark hits the cards as hard as it can so I'm not suprised by those temps.
Are we gonna have another episode of "compare reference AMD cards to non-reference Nvidia cards" this gen too?
what about the DX12 meme OP?
>>55244554
That's because AMD used a really shitty reference cooler to get the price down. It really does make the Founder's Edition cards look like premium coolers even though they're still blower style coolers. If you controlled for all variables including the cooler, rx 480 would have lower temperatures than the gtx 1080 under 100% load. Which is to be expected, higher end cards are normally less efficient. What we should be comparing is AMD's high end cards to the 1080 and 1070 (although that could be classified and mid range) and Nvidia mid and low end cards to the rx 480 and below.
>>55244611
It's only fair considering how much AMDrones used the performance of the FE cards to post that Nvidia is finished and bankrupt :^)
>>55244580
The 480 uses 110w max (stock)
It has a shit reference cooler
still averages 70c on load (when it's not in CF in a small case)
>getting ready for 50c full load on a nice dual-fan custom board that allows for 1.7ghz OC getting to 980 Ti stock speeds :P
>maybe just get a Devil 480x2
>>55244649
Honestly feels like the only way Nvidia can compete this gen since Pascal can't overclock for shit.
>>55244673
That's probably intentional. The 970 cannibalized 980 sales because it could overclock to stock 980 performance. There's a ~20% performance gap between the 1070 and the 1080, so Nvidia is clearly afraid of having potential 1080 buyers settle for a 1070 if it could overclock 20% or more.
>>55244554
It gets hotter than a 1080 when you throttle the fan down to 55% and pack 2 of them right next to each other.
Otherwise, it stays at 60c.
>>55244746
I don't think so, Pascal was made to run at high clocks and no small amount of black magic was employed to get it there, however, it's still built on silicon and silicon doesn't respond well to high clocks so I believe this will be a one-time thing for Nvidia and they will go back to sane clocks with Volta.
Pascal can't overclock not because of artificial limitations, but because it's already running at near suicidal clocks for a IC with multiple thousand ALUs
>>55244771
Yeah but skylake is 4ghz
>>55244801
Skylake has around 5-6 times less transistors than GP104 and an incomparably longer pipeline than a GPU
>>55244183
>cards slightly below nvidia performance
>nearly half fucking price
I know where I'm taking my shekels
i dont see how anyone could talk shit to amd rn. rx 480 is half the price of a 980 slightly worse. how is this bad?? am i missing something?
>>55244183
Why did you post a picture of a floor?
>>55244859
Gtx980 is 2 years old.
It's just another r9 290x rebrand.
>>55244902
the 290x to 390x was a rebrand in a way, but it was still an updated die with more shaders and a higher memoryclock
the rx480 is a completely different chip.. completely different process and size. You're just baiting with that shit you nvidicuck
>>55244314
'wait' -- t.amdfag
>>55244967
The shaders remained the same, but it was an updated die, to be more precise a metal layer respin with the memory controller supporting higher frequency memory and all the goodies an matured process brings.
Technically it's a rebrand since the PCIIDs remain the same, but I would call it a rebrand+ since it is faster.
>>55244902
ok? its still a popular card and people still use it. people are now getting signifigantly lower prices for the same power. when 2 companies go head to head, the consumer always wins
The shit posting when the AIB cards hit 1600 MHZ will be glorious
>>55244183
Nvidiots on suicide watch! They have to lie this much just to sleep at night!
>>55245142
Except it won't because it can't
>>55244554
>reference
>crossfire cards
>at 50% fanspeed
>in a benchmark
>no airflow or ambient temperature information
It runs cool as shit from any well-described benchmarks so far.
>>55245202
>it can't
Tell us why.
>>55244183
There is no 490
>>55245205
NO IT DOESN'T
FUCK YOU!
>>55244554
the 1080 has a vapor chamber cooler, the RX 480 is just a hunk of aluminum and it still runs cooler
>480 is basically a 390x, which is a rebranded 290x
>mfw amd is trying to sell me a 4 year old card
>>55245375
>87 degrees is cooler than 85 degrees
YOU HEARD IT HERE FOLKS, AMD REVERSING UNITS OF MEASUREMENT!!!
100 DEGREES c IS FREEZING POINT NOW
>>55245389
On the plus side I remember the 290X being $550 MSRP but much higher in reality. RX 480 is $200 MSRP.
>>55245402
And much higher in reality.
Like 300 euro
>>55245396
Doesn't the RX 480 run under 80 degrees?
1. The gaming benchmarks are not officially out yet.
2. The release drivers have not been tested in public yet.
3. The third party coolers have yet to be tested to know what this GPU is capable of with decent cooling.
4. Nvidiots are salty.
"But muh specula!"
Stop jumping the shark.
>>55245599
72C when OC'd to 1600mhz, yeah.
>>55245653
"AMD Radeon RX 480 Thermal Imaging Test – 71.9C Maximum Temperature:"
http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-480-thermal-tests-leak/#ixzz4CYUEEYma
Where's your rumored source? because until June 29th we won't know anything for sure
>wccftech
It's like poetry
no one pointing out to op that the 490 doesnt/wont exist?
>>55245844
The 490 will exist, it'll probably be a beefed up polaris chip with GDDR5X and a wider bus, should be just past the 1080 most likely, it'll be marketed at the true 4k card
>>55244183
>The majority of new cards are roughly the same performance as older cards but at lower price points
It's almost like this happens every generation.
>>55245982
>Didn't you read the op? It'll be around 1070/980 ti performance.
Pure speculation. No one knows what the RX490 will be yet, the name has been confirmed though.
>>55244183
>dumb makiposter
>>55245982
he's retarded, it wouldn't make any sense for them to put out a card slower than the 1080 a few months down the line
or ya it might not even exist at all and they'll just come out with the new Crimson Fury cards or something with HBM2 only
>>55244333
>rx480 14% behind a nano
not bad desu
>>55244770
Fuck off, Nvidiot ! Your kind is not welcome around here anymore.
What are the waitfags currently waiting for?
I want to buy an upgrade because my 760 is showing its age, but I don't want to invest much.
I want to use the 480 as a stop gap.
>>55246101
>its
it's
>>55244183
>slightly below a $500 card for $200
awesome
>>55246108
>showing it is age
>>55246033
i like this meme
>>55246117
>R I P Fury Nano
>>55246204
For less than half the price!
If the OC potential with Polaris and Vega is true, then a 490 could beat a 1080 with OC
>>55246455
>Holy shit do you not have a job?
Yes, but that doesn't mean I can justify paying exponentially more for slight performance increases.
>>55244443
>that one Firestrike test where they showed the new overclocking tool
>had 1288Mhz at almost 1.2vcore for no reason
>another test showed 1266Mhz running at 1.08vcore
I mean come on now
>>55246665
There's no way binning is going to amount to that kind of a stock VID difference, especially with review sample cards. Add to that the fact that FinFET process design by it's nature gives generally much tighter voltage tolerances within a given target clock speed and what really happened was the people who used the OC tool set arbitrary high voltages for no reason.
>>55246178
>AMD
>gimped vram
No, that's the Nvidia® GTX™ 970™.
>>55246455
>I'm living off the government and I'm still getting a gtx 1070
You can afford a lot of expensive things when you live with your mother and get autismbux.
>>55244333
>time spy comes out
>async compute
>nvidia cucked
can't wait
>>55247702
>Nvidiot collecting autism bux and living off his parents
kek, another pleb living the stereotype
>>55247766
>limited because it is new technology
>nvidia manage to gimp gddr5
All of them cost far less too for slightly less power. Oh and even with slightly less they can run ultra at 60 fps on modern games so why do you care? Elitist nvidia fucks
>>55244333
Ah on old drivers not utilizing literally entire features of the card. Add about 30 to 50% to that result and that's what you'll get with the new drivers
>>55247891
>system ram accessed before last .5gb vram
the damage control is unreal
All you faggots seriously dont realize the new drivers for the new cards aren't even out yet. Kek
>>55247905
the cards arent even out dumbass
>>55247891
>Actually defending Nvidia's memory scam
I wonder who is behind this post
>>55245389
So it's a r9 395?
>>55246455
>I'm living off the government and I'm still getting a gtx 1070,
all this says is that you're bad at managing money and also lazy.
>>55247931
a cuck
SHIT
FUCK
>>55244532
>>55244267
Nvidia can't even compete anymore, they're releasing new overpriced housefires.
>>55249892
>housefires
What?
>>55244183
>implying no Fury sequel
Why the fuck are people acting like it's never happened before that you can get the same performance you could get two years ago now but cheaper? Graphics cards haven't always become progressively more expensive, you know
>>55244183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=933LBq34y8I
If the RX480 runs Overwatch at 4k max settings for $199, why should I spend more on nvidia's overpriced garbage?
>>55249939
>Graphics cards haven't always become progressively more expensive, you know
Since the 680 they have.
>>55249982
They started dropping with fermi and went up with maxwell
>>55249982
But the older cards have become cheaper and you could always get the performance you got 2 years ago for a lower price. AMD fans are creaming their pants for getting "980 performance for half the price" when the 1070 literally gives you more than Titan X performance for half the price but they don't talk about that because it's out of their NEET price range.
The 480 is going to be a great card for 1080p60, but let's be honest, pretty much everybody who cares about all this shit, is on /g/ and not a neet left 1080p60 behind years ago
>>55250011
1070 is slightly better than titan x.
480 is slightly worse than 980.
>>55250025
In which game? Is it DX12 or DX11? Any 2016 games where this is happening?
>>55250063
>DX12 or DX11
>microsoft windows
you disappoint, son.
>>55244183
is the rx480 going to be as hard to get for the first few weeks as the gtx 1070?
RX 480 will OC to 980ti levels.
>>55250102
Charlie says no.
>>55244183
>source: my ass
Is it too hard to wait for the releases of these cards?
>>55250145
Release?
What's the realistic price point going to be for 8GB 480 in britbongland? I'm guessing roughly 250-300 quid after tax for a non reference
>>55250297
Seems a reasonable guess.
>>55244183
I wish I had a loli sister. I'd cuddle her 24/7
>>55250450
You wouldn't.
Also: Westermarck effect.
>>55250518
Who?
>>55246128
are you stupid
that is an apostrophe showing possessiveness
it possess age
>>55250536
You wouldn't a loli sister.
>>55250518
It's not sexual. It's the very reason why adults tend to take care of off-springs
>>55250589
Y not
>>55250614
This is /g/ - you ALWAYS assume its for lewds until proven otherwise.
>>55250623
Westermarck effect goddamnit.
>>55250549
http://www.grammar-monster.com/easily_confused/its_its.htm
>>55250639
Who?
>>55250655
Not him but how about "Ruby's phone"?
>>55250675
Him
>>55250690
What does he have to do with loli
>>55250677
nice bait
now fuck off
>>55250790
I'm still here
"Interestingly, yesterday a Microcenter branch in Overland Park Kansas revealed to a customer that they’re receiving a shipment of 100 RX 480 cards on the 28th of June. That’s exactly 25 times as many GTX 1080 cards the same branch had at launch, which was only four. We called the branch & confirmed. We were also told that their stock of GTX 1080 cards is currently limited to one per customer due to limited supply."
http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-shipments-hit-us-stores/
kek Nvidia
>>55251118
How is that nvidias loss? They're making much more money per card than AMD ever will
>>55250297
Greymethod was listing the 8GB 480 for £209.94 a couple of days ago. But since the EU vote it's now at £235.94
https://www.greymethod.co.uk/Store/Product?id=496
They don't have actual stock mind they are just doing a naughty pre-order shenanigans.
>>55251138
>They're making much more money per card than AMD ever will
Does per card profit matter as much as total profit?
If Nvidia make $500 profit from each of the 1080s sold at that store and AMD makes $50 from each, assuming they sell their initial shipments Nvidia makes $2000 and AMD makes $5000.
Though in reality Nvidia and AMD make their profits before the cards even leave the shelves.
>>55251309
Yes because AMD makes 5000 dollars but the cost will be 3500 dollars, nvidia will make 2000 dollars but the cost will be 500 dollars.
They earn the same but it's much easier for nvidia.
>>55251463
>each 1080 costs $125 to make
And this is acceptable? People complain about Apple over charging for things.
>each rx480 costs $35 to make
Seems like a win for AMD here.
Why is there threads about nvidia vs amd every day? Who the fuck cares? Get a life.
>>55245017
What else are you going to do?
1070 out of stock everywhere due to no yields.
1080 out of stock everywhere due to no yields.
Pascal has WORSE yields than Fermi, this is literally woodscrews GTX all over again.
>>55251574
nvidia is upset about being buttblasted this generation.
Shit happens.
itll blow over in ~6 months when nVidia catches up on orders, since they're so behind due to bad yield.
Until then the nvidia fanboys will cry and until the 380 is released the amdfanboys will also yammer on.
Everyone is stupid.
Buy a mali just to shit them.
>>55251643
>since they're so behind due to bad yield.
>>55251596
> due to no yields.
Where are these rumors coming from?
TSMC has officially stated that there are no yield issues with their latest 16nm process. Nvidia is deliberately holding back production to drive up prices for their GPUs.
>>55251859
semiaccurate / bits n chips
>>55251898
I'd still doubt SA because they've been shitters since last years. TSMC (not Nvidia) went public with the fact that their yields have been above average for a new process and die size combined, and yet Nvidia is skimping out of delivering their new silicon.
I'd be more pissed that Nvidia is milking the fuck out of these silicon for maximum Jewness than any perceived yield issues. At least yield issues aren't entirely the fault of the GPU manufacturer. Jewing is.
>>55251938
>TSMC (not Nvidia) went public with the fact that their yields have been above average for a new process and die size combined,
That's all well and good, but clearly TSMCs 16nm isn't broken, Apple is using them fine (and it's apparently slightly less power than the samsung 14finfet)
But that doesn't mean the finished wafers for nVidia are going to be any good, nvidia's own design might aggrivate issues in the 16nm process that Apple for instance was able to solve (or maybe didn't affect their much lower transistor count and power target chips)
For the moment though, it's looks like nVidia's in a rough spot for current gear and it's only getting worse with reports of interposer issues for their HBM2 'full pascal' product.
Shit like that sucks though, imagine how crushed the engineers are, all that work...
>>55251994
>it's only getting worse with reports of interposer issues for their HBM2 'full pascal' product
That's another unsubstantiated rumor. GP100 silicon are being delivered just fine in accordance to the demand.
Nvidia won't sell a consumer HBM2 GPU for another year or two because they're trying to milk the shit out of the GP104 before dropping the turd that will be the GP102 (which allegedly will only use GDDR5X for the 1080 Ti, which means that the Titan version will also only use GDDR5X for cost reasons)
>>55252030
>my unsubstantiated rumors are better than yours
Up yours buddy.
>>55245633
This. We know too little.
I like my GTX 770 but all that really matters for anyone considering an upgrade is the price:performance ratio and the stock/aftermarket coolers' performance.
>>55251859
>Holding back to drive the prices up.
You literally can't make this shit up. Jewvidia at its finest! And fanboys will justify this.
>>55244183
>rx490 slightly below a gtx1080
>rx480 slightly below a gtx980
>rx470 slightly below a gtx970
>rx460 slightly below a gtx960
FTFY
>>55244267
g8 b8 m8
>>55244554
Shut up, you don't understand chip temp vs TDP vs power consumption
>>55251463
No, he said profit, not gross. And considering die size and yields, Nvidia's profits aren't as high as you think.
The RX 480 doesn't even beat a 3.5.
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-AMD-Radeon--RX-480-Graphics/2577vsm146623
Remember how AMD said they wanted to make the MINIMUM VR specs more affordable with Polaris?
>>55244183
>for ~<1/2 the price
Sounds pretty good for the average consumer
Why do reviewers never get hacked and products under NDA get exposed early?
