Why does /g/ hate vlc so much? Is it because it's popular?
>>55166483
We do?
I think it's a great player, been using it for many years now.
>doesn't need third party codecs
What's not to hate?
Hipsters.
Though I just like MPC-HC better.
>>55166540
why?
>>55166483
It's OK, but it's really badly organized from a usage perspective. Also, not enough granularity on options. If you like it, that's fine. Currently though, mpv is the /g/ darling from image quality and rendering perspective, which IS pretty important when using video players. Oh, also, not sure if still true, but on windows integration was kinda annoying.
>>55166483
Basically. I remember when every single post on /g/ advocated VLC.
Now /g/ hates it because everybody uses it. People need to feel like special snowflakes so move on to some obscure anime centric bullshit player like MPC-HC.
>>55166553
Idn. I've just used it longer so I am used to it and I have it set up just how I like it.
>>55166483
Subtitle renderer sucks shit compared to mpc and mpv.
>>55166578
Do you have any side by side screenshots that show mpv and vlc? I wanna see the difference.
Because it's deprecated.
I used to play everything on VLC, but then came the future and while MPC-HC can play 10bit HEVC videos on my toaster perfectly, VLC cannot.
>>55166483
I don't hate it, it's a solid no-frills player that just werks and gets good support. But I prefer MPV because of how minimalist/clean it is, all the useful shortcut keys it has and the quality options like superior upscaling and debanding and interpolation to combat 3:2 pulldown judder.
>>55166483
But I don't. mpv just works better.
mpv > vlc > any other trash not even worth mentioning
Mpc combined with madvr basically let's you rice your video quality. For just basic shit VLC is fine.
it is shit!!
I just like the mpv interface better.
>>55166612
Epic meme
>>55166581
When was this vlc advocacy?
Kek 4chan is primary an anime community. Vlc is hated because of shit sub rendering from 10 years ago. Vlc hasn't been popular on 4chan ever. Only retarded Reddit and normie niggers who don't watch anime or hate it use vlc becuase they don't follow the video codec advances.
>>55167590
So basically it's just memes from 5 years ago?
Because that hasn't been happening to me for quite a while.
>>55167295
>mpv
>interface
>can't even change the volume or show a playlist
>>55167635
I watch all of my anime with VLC. :3
>>55166483
Because 4chan is 2edgy4me
i "hate" it because the safari plugin doesn't work anymore, so i have to use firefox for webm threads :(
>/g/ is triggered whenever someone says "VLC lets you boost volume by 400%"
>VLC is objectively worse than ultrasperg codec/player solutions to watch Chinese stickmen
>DO I FIT IN YET GUISE???
Pick one or more.
>rebuilding font cache
>>55167768
>>55166483
i use it for livestreams and mpv for everything else.
>>55167768
Hey, I forgot about that.
So, that too, OP.
>>55166483
I used to use it but I switched to MPC-HC after it wouldn't play certain files. I've never looked back.
>>55167114
/thread.
>>55167787
But it's not a meme, VLC does this quite a bit. I'm not even the person you were responding to.
>>55166483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHhUcabwkuw
Also MPC-HC, MPV, MPDN was superior to VLC in image quality. .
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/38184
>Not using PotPlayer
Can we end this terrible thread please
Computer nerds are obsessed with extreme customization and getting the best possible experience. VLC can play everything, but it's rarely the best player for any given video file.
>>55168343
I can't see a difference
>>55168343
what's the difference?
>>55168343
vlc looks kinda washed out
>>55168150
>use MPC-HC
>microsoft windows only
found the faggot
Mpc-hc is better with svp to interpolate my animu to 144fps
And no, your cheap lowend thinkpads can't handle it.
>>55166483
I don't, I just tend to use ffplay for most things, and for playing mod files I tend to use specific players because libmodplug sucks balls.
By all means I still recommend VLC to people. Simply because it's basically an ffmpeg frontend and thus plays damn near everything.
I use VLC as a backup media player, else use MPC-BE.
MPV is nice, but is lacking too many features for me.
Love MPC-BE's UI, seekbar preview (which MPC-HC is missing), skin doesn't look Win 98 retro, and can increase the minimum texture resolution, and its font rendering is almost indistinguishable from MPV to me.
Was also annoying to me that MPV didn't remember last window size / position.
As to why I don't use VLC:
-VLC can be washed out (at least on Nvidia) unless changing video color settings to Full in the Nvidia control panel. See >>55168343
-Rebuilding font cache.
-Takes longer to configure settings than MPC-BE.
>>55168728
>signed by Aлeкcaндp BOДЯHHИКOB
Is it a Russian botnet, anon?
>>55166627
go to /a/, they have had many comparisons between 10-bit anime running on VLC vs. MPC-HC with MadVR and SVC.
VLC colors look jaded, it stutters and shits itself on 10-bit files.
>>55166597
> idn (sic)
At least you're honest
>>55168728
whats the player on the far left?
>>55168939
All three in the image are MPC-BE.
Pressing 1, 2, or 3 changes the UI as seen in the screenshot.
it doesnt play 4k properly, really fucking slow and hungry for resources, literally windows 10 player works better.
>>55168947
wow i'm fucking retarded. Thanks m8
>>55166483
it's not bad, MPC-HC is just better
>>55168728
Thanks for this. I'm testing and it looks really nice. I might just switch from HC.
>>55166483
it's bloated
From tip of tree on both repos, just checked out:
user@~/src/ro/mpv$ find . -type f | grep -E '.*\.(h|c|py|lua|pl|m|cpp)$' | xargs cat | wc -l
162136
vs
user@~/src/ro/vlc$ find . -type f | grep -E '.*\.(h|c|py|lua|pl|m|cpp)$' | xargs cat | wc -l
741136
And mpv even works better by piping to youtube-dl.
I still have VLC on my machine, it handles some streams better than mpv seems to. It's still bloated.
>>55168947
do you use madvr with mpc-be?
look man, i don't want to say bad things but vlc is shit.
is shit
>>55166506
>>doesn't need third party codecs
>What's not to hate?
>not to hate
I think you might have that backwards, anon.
>>55168728
>MPV didn't remember last window position
shift + q
>>55166553
When i watched films (.mkv) VLC gets artifacts and occasionally the screen goes grey. Mpc never does this
why do animecucks need 10 bit video when anime uses like 25 colors per episode
>>55167576
>>55167635
>>55167787
Its a great if not amazing standalone player, probably one of the best on the market that conpletely relies on its own codecs.
Its just that when I used it 2 weeks ago it was indeed "rebuilding font cache". Even though I have a high end pc it still took a bit of time, when it was done it changed the font to something ugly as fuck. Its not a meme you fucktards, it did this 10 years ago and it still does.
Also video quality of mpc+madvr is superior.
>>55169063
Personally? No.
Should work with madvr just the same as MPC-HC, though, if that's your gig.
It's because the playback sucks dick compared to every other player like MPC-HC, mpv, Potplayer, BSplayer, etc.
>>55168728
is there any way to do the first style with vlc
>>55169786
--no-video-deco --no-embedded-video
>>55166483
Because they download shitty anime rips and need a buttload of fancy processing to keep from getting cataracts while watching them.
VLC is fine with a good source.
>>55169810
where into senpai
I use VLC like a normal person because I'm not an autist with hours of free time to configure plugins and decoders and all that shit MPC-HC requires. There's no difference in the video output from the two on modern versions anyway. All the screenshot glitches you see spammed in these kinds of threads are ancient versions of VLC.
>>55169867
>I'm not an autist with hours of free time to configure plugins and decoders and all that shit MPC-HC requires.
But MPC-HC works out of the box like VLC does.
>>55168728
why doesent it start at 100% zoom?
>>55169879
nvm im fucking retard
>>55169867
>I use VLC like a normal person because I'm not an autist with hours of free time
Normies, everyone. Your average VLC audience.
>>55166483
Long story short: Because it does basically everything wrong (at least in terms of the video rendering). If it's possible for VLC to screw something up, they screw it up. That's their M.O. and has been for the past decade.
I once wrote a list of all the little things and steps that VLC screws up. It spanned 5 or 6 4chan posts.
Its a jack of all trades, but a master at none.
Yes it can do a lot of things, but it doesn't do any of those things WELL.
If you want a good video player, MPC-HC, mpv, and a handful of other players are better.
>>55168343
what?
>>55166483
i don't like the icon
but i use it anyway
>>55170870
that looks scaled up. Did you increase window size? Show the video at the original resolution.
>>55169309
>literally the same decoder
>vlc shows artifacts
at least put your lies on a reasonable base.
>>55167683
>can't even change the volume or show a playlist
Press the / and * buttons on your numpad, or the numbers 9 and 0.
You fucking idiot.
>>55170937
I have neither of them set to "scale window to video size" and also I'm not willing to redo the screenshot. It looks the same on both players., at least on my PC
>>55168343
now do one with MPV right next to these 2
>>55166483
it is QT spyware
>>55166483
>it plays it all
>most like it and install it right after the os
>/g/ autists hate it and would rather use a player with no gui and that stutters with opengl at lq quality
wew wew weeeew
>>55169995
Yes.
VLC rose to prominence because it could play partial files really well unlike anything else at the time and everybody was downloading everything from peer to peer networks looking for something they could preview their downloading files with so they didn't waste hours of time and bandwidth to end up with "Poor Little Whiteboy 2" instead of "Troy".
>>55170870
>using xvid to prove quality
danny boy stop drinking
>>55171032
>end up with "Poor Little Whiteboy 2" instead of "Troy".
>not using private trackers
that's a dumb las
I've been using VLC since it was advocated on this site way back in like 2007. Back then everyone said use VLC or nothing else. But 4chan is a place for hipsters and as it grew in popularity the autists on 4chan started decrying it.
>>55166540
fonts are too small.
>>55167701
Worst Batsu Game.
>>55166483
>Why does /a/ hate vlc so much?
Fixed
>>55169309
This. Don't even remind me back in the days when you used to play DVDs, it skipped through the DVD or artifacts all over the place
Since then always mpc.
>>55171052
>>not using private trackers
>that's a dumb las
This was before torrenting, lassy.
The Gnutella Edonkey days.
>>55171167
Jesus...
>>55171144
>back in the days
VLC still does this today
>>55171175
Well that's when VLC took off.
>>55167114
i had installed mpchc to watch a couple of episodes on my sisters laptop.
the other day she downloaded a season of series off kat and said vlc is not playing it because it is 10 bit something. i said try the mpc hc with open with and she said it worked. now she only uses mpchc with kawaii codec pack. and you???
for me VLC and MPC are both shit in decoding, so i use MPV
HOWEVER, MPC is good for viewing webms in single folder because it has the "next" and "previous" buttons
>>55171379
>viewing webms in a single folder
why would you do that?
>>55166483
>Why does /g/ hate vlc so much?
it's mediocre. plain and simple.
>Is it because it's popular?
Even your mom knows about vlc, but nothing beyond that...
>>55166506
VLC is not the only one with "build-in" codecs, you silly sausage.
also as an anime sidenote: VLC only got libass in august 2008 which was years behind anything else...
also garbling and failing at rendering every now and then (been the same for years)
TL;DR = it's not a very good option. Use MPC-HC or mpv
Just use Potplayer. Best media player right now since mpv does not integrate well on Windows.
Here are all the FOSS and cross-platform options available:
mpv (back-end / command-line)
MPlayer (back-end / command-line)
VLC (GUI)
MPC-HC (GUI, Windows Only)
>>55166506
>We do?
Yes we do,newfag.
>>55166483
No. It's because it stinks in slow machines and also it stinks to play HEVC x265. Or at least version 2.3 stinked.
>>55171379
You know stuff like that is easily scriptable in mpv? This will add "next" and "previous" buttons to the OSD.
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/TOOLS/lua/autoload.lua
>>55172102
You have 2 more options that are based on mpv:
bomi player and baka mplayer.
>>55166483
because it's not PotPlayer.
>>55173523
DUDE
>>55173552
DUDE
Enjoy your fucked black levels VLC faggots.
Tried watching a 10bit anime in VLC and it shits itself. The screen was filled with green squares and everything became distorted.
That's when I changed to MPC (CCCP, specifically).
I use it because:
>it literally just werks
>has all codecs built in
>doesn't mess with any other shit
Years ago I had bad experiences installing third party codecs on windows and so thats why I preffer self contained programs now. Cpu usage is a little on the high side and I dont even use a tenth of the functions it offers so I figure its time for a change.
What was the video player /g/'s always shilling with no gui? I want to try it, and if theres a gui please point it out, nothing fancy just play pause rewind
I'm pretty sure VLC fuck with the video colors
maybe they fixed it
>>55167635
I hate it when people spill over from the cartoon boards.
REBUILDING FONT CACHE
>>55174473
This thing was so anoying!
>>55174227
>Enjoy your fucked black levels VLC faggots.
>>55166483
I had to switch to VLC because for some reason MPC-HC crashes instantly when I try to play a video. I deleted MPC-HC and all the codecs and plugins I had, then just only installed MPC-HC but I'm still having crashing issues on the latest stable build. VLC just werks though.
>>55169445
Literally never happened to me and I use it every day for watching softsubs.
It only did it once right after installing and took like 10 seconds on a FX 8320.
>>55174316
>>55174227
:^)))
>>55170972
>autism """"""interface""""""
>>55174508
>>55174316
>>55174610
>>55171111
Eh a lot of people said that when it was getting subbed, but I've recently watched it again and it was a lot better than I thought.
>>55174655
Such 240p piece of shit vid
>>55174678
>640x480 is 240p
Kiki series started like 20 years ago. Lots of the videos are low resolution and taken from vhs tapes.
That's literally the best version available of that episode. Many are even worse.
>>55174760
Anything lower than 1080p is literally the same as 144p
>>55174895
>literally
>>55166483
its terrible
and has a shitty icon
>>55166483
Because skipping around in the video cause it to give out pixelated crap.
Just use Kawaii Codec Pack instead.
>>55172133
what year was this taken?
>>55168920
Actually I forgot until now.
VLC always did that stupid rebuilding font whatever shit. It annoyed me so I looked for an alternative.
MPC doesn't do that.
>>55171144
The sad thing though is that VLC still appears to have the best DVD menu support. I use VLC when I want to play DVD ISOs.
>>55168343
https://wiki.videolan.org/VSG:Video:Color_washed_out/
_
>>55174605
Its because you don't change fonts. Most of the people complaining about that a designers or developers who add and remove fonts alot. That's what triggers that annoying shit
Even the windows 10 built in player has better color balance than VLC, I'm not even kidding
>Open a file it cannot play
>Error message box that cannot be closed
>Uses 100% of all CPU cores
>In this state it will start hogging more and more memory
>Must be closed from task manager
>>55176207
>>55167590
Never happened to me.
>>55176251
Process Explorer is your friend.
>>55166483
Everytime I use it I get artifacts and bit-rate problems out the ass where it fucks up the video.
I rarely use any media player other than plex nowadays anyways so I just keep it around.
>>55168389
Not really, no.
VLC is woman-tier shit
>>55166483
I use it to watch pirated movies on kat.cr with my family. And I give to one of my cousins and they like it. We don't need to go to the movies anymore.
VLC is for streaming over a network, not playing local files you dum dums
>[rebuilding font cache intensifies]
>>55178840
>what is livestreamer
>what is youtube-dl
they both work on windows too
>>55169867
Your post is almost as cancerous as your image.
>>55166483
I want to switch from VLC to another player, i got MPC-HC because it looked nice, i am clueless about codecs and stuff though, do i need to install anything along with it?
>>55166483
VLC forever my bros
I use VLC but I might start using MPC now...
>>55180170
You don't necessarily need the extra codecs. I'm >>55168728 using MPC-BE.
They'll technically improve image quality, especially in upscaling, but aren't really required for it to run.
It becomes more of an issue if you have say, a 4K display and are trying to upscale 1080p or 720p videos.
In the rare case a video doesn't run on MPC, I personally just use VLC portable, since I don't care to actually have VLC installed if I only use it like once a year.
>>55180352
>>55180436
If you're using Nvidia, set the dynamic range to full like I mentioned in an earlier post, or as >>55174508 screenshotted.
It should fix the color issue for the most part.
>>55166506
Don't say "We" ever again, Newfag
Here's a real answer anon vlc has notorious screen tearing and other eye rape features for most if its users. Mpv doesn't
>>55180458
May be because I overclocked my monitor by 15Hz
>>55180541
Anything's possible I suppose, but to my understanding that shouldn't affect it.
Given VLC's known to have issues with dull colors, I think it's safer to assume it's just something to do with the software itself rather than the monitor.
>>55166483
BEcause it's simple.
It's a GREAT fallback to play anything that's being stubborn, don't let anybody tell you otherwise. But there are better options most of the time. Given that /g/ is supposedly about discussing and exploring technology, people who stop at VLC because it werks are not welcome here.
Basically it's like telling a chef he's a hipster for using a cleaver because a swiss army knife has knives as well.
>>55180811
Oooo. Hi Mr. Self-Declared /g/ ambassador
>>55180868
Hello
>>55180868
He has a point though.
The "just werks" jack of all trades solution that might be best for the general public usually isn't the best for the enthusiasts.
Same goes for any kind of hobby or interest.
>Why does [4chan board] hate [popular thing]
>>55181006
ah yes
the classic /v/ gambit
>>55180462
>Not using royal "we"
>>55166597
Cool. What plugins/codecs do you have set up for MPC-HC?
>>55181238
Not him, but you can't go wrong with the classic LAV + MAD + Icaros setup
>>55181359
Thanks I'll check that out. Currently I've got the standard setup with K-lite codec pack.
>>55167652
I bang my wife in a position like that sometimes
>>55181546
fag
>>55166483
It's probably because it plays video like shit. I tried to defend it for years, but at the end of the day it is shit and introduces random artifacts into many of the videos I attempt to watch with it. mpv/bakaMPlayer do not have this issue.
Only women use VLC. Women and people who don't know shit about tech.
Also, those people refuse to use anything other than VLC no matter what because it plays their videos and they are terrified of changing to another video player.
>>55167590
Missing key-frame is a problem of VLC?
How?
Mpc-hc + cccp codec is a way of life
>>55186074
Because other players play it fine
VLC is notoriously bad at the whole keyframe business, and has been for years. (For example, it misses keyframes when seeking)
