>yfw the 480 can peak 7.4 tflops at 1622 mhz overclock.
Where were you when the RX480 killed the Titan X.
I was enjoying my not poorfag tier 1080, gaming at a level you poorfag couldn't possibly understand.
Fuck off
/g/ is and always will be the smart consumer and pick the 1080 powerhouse
>New cards are faster than old cards
What a surprise! It's still slower than literally every card released by Nvidia this year.
No one knows if it actually has 64ALUs per CU, a patent from a couple years ago shows AMD is moving away from that with multiple varying sized CUs, and two or more scalar units per CU.
AMD could be using an entirely different formula to represent shader throughput for 4th gen GCN. Maybe the scalar units can handle 8 ops per clock, and are actually being counted now when they never were before.
This type of speculation is near useless considering all of that.
>>55154706
>mfw I max out my credit cards to afford a 1080
This is the end times for Nvidia.
>>55154706
>Being salty that you spent 3 times as much as you needed to.
>>55154706
if you are so rich they why won't you buy me an 1080? hmm??
>>55154718
That's just implying. The graphs are following the delta. Point is the overclocks are killer.
>>55154771
What overclocks?
>>55154736
Why though?
It's a powerful gpu that can actually handle 4k.
I'll be picking one up when they're back in stock for my 1440p monitor which I'll probably bump up to 4k in games.
Last I checked, AMD doesn't support virtual resolutions and monitor overclocking.
It'll be a solid upgrade from my GTX680.
>>55154780
>inane
>>55154694
>>55154706
>smart consumer
>1080
>>55154706
>>55154783
Less then 5% of steam users have a monitor with a resolution higher then 1920 x 1080p
>>55154793
>hey guis, I'm sure this card that can only run at 1080MHz in synthetics will overclock to 1622MHz!
>>55154845
>implying
http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-1500mhz-overclocking-tool-voltage-2/
>>55154836
Why would anyone be salty about that?
There's no denying that the 1080 is performance king now, which is why I'm buying it.
>Less then 5% of steam users have a monitor with a resolution higher then 1920 x 1080p
Why should I care? I don't know anyone who still uses 1080p monitors for their computers. It's either a laptop, or 1440p.
What are you? Poor?
>>55154845
>nvidia shills in denial
>>55154783
>Last I checked, AMD doesn't support virtual resolutions
Check again
>>55154783
But they do support both of those. Stop getting your info from shills.
AMD supports super res and monitor oc with Crimson
>>55154877
DOWN WITH THE BOURGEOISIE!
The most anyone need is a 1440p monitor. 4k is gonna start dropping in price over the years. Until then the 480 is the perfect sweet spot card.
Buy a 120hz 99% adobe rgb ips 1080p monitor before a 4k monitor. What are you a day trader? Buy dual 1080p screens.
>>55154892
>>55154890
My last purchase was gtx680, the alternative was hd7970.
Catalyst didn't support either of those and I haven't checked again since then.
Still not going to change my mind though because I'm going for the 1080.
680 lasted me 4 years, so should the 1080.
>>55154917
>dropping in price
This again?
Don't you have a job?
>earn money
>spend money
>repeat
>>55154860
>some $300 Beast Mode 480's MAY be able to reach a 1.5GHz overclock with heavy overvolting
>hey guys, everyone's gonna hit 1622MHz with a $199 480!
>>55154694
>two thirds the size
>more than four fifths the speed
2016 really is shaping up to be /g/ versus Fermi all over again
>>55154943
Not him but I have too many money guzzling hobbies. If I can get great performance for considerably less, I will buy it and spent rest of the budget on something else. I don't care if basement dwellers want to wank off to their 4x pricier products with 1,7x performance. I can play my games well with 480 and keep my fishing, photography and other hobbies on budget as well.
>>55154943
HAY RETARD REMEMBER WHEN 1080p MONITORS COST OVER $600?
I DO. http://www.geek.com/games/john-carmack-coded-quake-on-a-28-inch-169-1080p-monitor-in-1995-1422971/
>>55154706
why are you so mad? it's only gpus dude, relax
>>55155031
I remember those. Still have my 19 inch sun crt.
>1600x1200 75hz
Good times.
>>55155022
Are you implying my computer is my only hobby?
>>55155064
>Are you implying my computer is my only hobby?
Ofcourse, we are on /g/. Everyone else here is basement dwelling troglodyte and I am the only productive member of society.
>>55155090
Fair enough.
>>55154930
>w-what prussia doesn't exist anymore?!
>last time I checked it did so I'll just continue saying it
Get with the times grandpa.
>>55154706
/g/ is too poorfag to be able to afford the smart choice.
>>55155064
My Sammy would do 85Hz. It was nice. Too bad its brightness and colors faded.
Can't really complain about the E248WFP I picked up for $30, though.
>>55155090
Fuck off cunt. Don't sit here and act like you're the fucking royalty of /g/.
Most people work. Boo hoo for the rich fag, everyone doesn't have $800+ of disposable income for a graphics card.
>>55155118
CRT was only Superior against early LCD screens. IPS looks amazing now, I'm not poor, but I gambled on one of those Korean panels(30" 2560*1600) and it looks fucking amazing.
>>55155104
Seek help, immediately.
>>55155139
I assumes whole point of /g/ is to feel superior in the middle of imaginary cave dweller code monkeys. This place is full of shit flinging threads and weeabooism so it is hard not to imagine oneself as übermensch in the middle of plebs.
>>55154930
The 1080 is utter garbage for the price. The 1070 is even more cucked.
>>55154706
AHAAHAHAHAHA CRY MORE NVIDIOT
>>55155230
>better than Titan x
>same price as 980 ti on launch
>can be overclocked for even better performance
How is that garbage?
>>55155222
/g/ wasn't always like this.
This goy rich fag race leaks from /r/pcmustarrdrace
The windows 10 shilling and nothing to hide meme is even worse.
>>55155160
>Seek help, immediately.
Where do you think we are?
Is RX480 a good choice if I'm upgrading the computer of my wives son?
>>55155326
No, he needs a GTX 1080.
>>55155263
>be October
>see fury x2 launch
>see price of $399
>see benchmarks
>begin to cry
What nvidia fan boys seem to miss is if 2 x 480's can outperform a 1080 in dx12 for $400 less, then amd has a low price target and will be able to outmatch nvidia's top card IF they made a card as capable.
I'm buying a 480 for my dual 1080p monitors. If I want more performance I will buy a second rx480. Simple as that. The 1070 oc is a disappointment compared to the 480 overclock.
>>55155404
>recommending multi gpu
Fuck off
>>55155426
Watch the ≈$400 Vega card destroy the 1080. Mark those words down.
>wasted money on the 1070
>the 480 is actually 3x faster
>days without jewish tricks.jpg
I got jewed for the last time nvidia, the last time
Rip the nvidia shill
>>55154694
is this just speculation or do you have a source on an actual 480 hitting 1622MHz?
>>55155969
some Korean steamer was streaming Overwatch and he ran a few benchmarks, one of them showed his card running at 1607mhz. I saw this myself but I don't know why people aren't making a big deal out of this.
>>55155969
There were nda leaks of people overclocking it.
>>55154694
No, just no.
The only agument you need to know the card won't beat a titan x is that it's 199$
There is literall no fucking way they would sell it at that price if it actualy was capable of 1070 levels of performance.
Anything who thinks otherwise is a naive child
>>55157638
>the price = preformance meme
>not understanding what die size a d die shrink are
>not realizing more chips can be made on a single wafer
>not realizing price is divided by performance
/r/shill
>trying to math your way into a higher benchmark score
Protip a 20% overclock does not correspond with a 20% increase in benchmark score always
>>55157666
>thinking costprice=sell price
Looks like somebody skipped economics class.
When your only competitor offers cards at that performance level for 500$ you can sell it for 400$ and make a fucking killing.
200$ is just plain ass fucking retarded and would never happen with a product that good.
I will just wait for the benchmarks to come in a few weeks and show you dumbass infants wrong.
>>55154718
indeed they are some "recent" ones suggest they are currently using power gating tech on the hardware sc and upfront
meaning that the base clock has absolutely no meaning what so ever since those core can boost up to 1.8ghz while having the rest of the card at idle
>>55157638
Shhh, just let them be deluded some more. I"ll love to see their faces when they realize that this card is just gonna be a rebranded 390.
>>55157719
Please ignore them, current info says a stock RX480 performs between a GTX970 and a GTX980.
>b-but muh OC!
This doesn't matter. Most people don't OC and guessing the OC performance is highly speculative, don't count your chickens before they hatch. If you have one in your hand with 1600MHz, great. YOU have a card that will hit 1600MHz.
>>55157711
No shit. The spotted 1605mhz oc was in delta with the math. Above that point is unknown. The 480 oc can reach 1.6ghz stable. That is in striking distance of a 1070 stock clock. Not bad. The new architect and die shrink and die size shrink helps amd keep costs down a lot.
>>55154930
You know, if you actually bought the 7970 it would still be a great card, right?
>>55157755
Have rarely seen this amount of wishful thinking in one post
>>55157638
they did it before with 4850 and 4870...
>>55157719
Dumb fuck. Did you realize polaris 10 has a much smaller die size then the 10xx series? That is how cost are cut. Amd is also using compact 3d finfet transistors. Cry more.
>>55157772
That was nowhere near the amount of performance for such a low price you people are suggesting right now
>>55157755
you do realise that reaching the same clocks on a different uarch doesnt mean nothing eh
amd traditionally is bad on oc 480 is the first card that is actually capable of giving such a oc headroom on a gcn uarch since 2011
>>55154694
Is this supposed to be some kind of joke?
I want Polaris to succeed, but let's not kid ourselves. It will probably be better than the 970/390, but that's about it. Having a card that can OC and deprecate the entire GPU lineup for $200 would be incredible and they would have definitely mentioned that instead of going with more AotS bullshit. If anything, you should be excited for fatter Polaris in Vega without HBM2 so that it doesn't cost a fortune.
>>55157782
THINK FOR ONE SECOND. IT IS A NEW GCN ARCHITECTURE AS WELL AS A NEW TRANSISTOR TYPE.
It is also smaller. That is how cost are so low.
>>55157778
Do you realize Pascal also had a die shrink?
And were its prices sliced in half?
Cost price is not the only determining factor in the selling price, especialy not in markets with an extremely low amount of competitors like this one you stupid motherfucker.
Just wait for the fucking benchmarks and you will see what a retarded mongoloid you are.
>>55157782
4870 was priced 300 bucks less than gtx 280 days before gtx260 got live
that price actually contributed into making the gtx260 to go MIA and nvidia cutting the price of gtx 280 by 220 bucks it was on the time that ati from being on 40% jumped on 55%into one q only..but ati had balls to go deep dirty on them amd just recently got the former head of pr of nvidia
>>55157824
Pascal also had a die shrink you dumb ass motherfucker
How many times do I have to tell you cost benefits don't mean the product will actualy be sold at a lower price. Take some fucking economics classes.
>>55157800
Ahhh? You do know the 480 is on a die shrink right? You also know nvidia gimped the 1070 right? The 480 is a better overclocker.
>>55157806
I think AMD didn't hype the card as much as it could because NVidia could pull off a price cut or a new card, as they did with the 980 Ti, which killed the Fury X; otherwise a amazing card for its price.
They are probably being careful about this.
>>55157755
>The 480 OC can reach 1.6GHz stable.
There's a few things that should be actually be kept in mind, not shilling for one side or the other. /g/ and 4chan in general seriously needs to fucking stop with hype trains, it's how you end up with worthless amounts of Ouyas and Mighty No 9 preorders.
1600MHz OC was acheived with heavy overvolting which is definitely not something your manufacturer is going to like you doing. This will affect the heat output pretty drastically, increase the power draw even more, and cut lifespan of the card. I'm guessing you can't hit 1600 on the stock 8pin model.
Heavy OC is also not guaranteed. It's also not the stock clock speed, and working for a GPU company I'll tell you right now the majority of people who buy overclocking cards never end up doing it.
If you're an actual overclocker this sounds neat in the very least, but neat in the G3258 sense. It's a cheap card that can overclock well (if all is to be believed.) Wait until everything is out to hand down a verdict, though.
And if you guys think this card beats a GTX1080 or whatever NVIDIA's ridiculously pricey cards are, please don't disillusion yourself. AMD isn't even trying to compete at the enthusiast end with the RX480.
>w-wait for the b-benchmarks!! Youll see!!
Just accept that AMD won this round
>>55157861
finfet by default isnt fond of overclocking too much stacking with very little space in between
the real reason as to why you see that insane oc is this
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20160085551.pdf
>>55157772
The 4850 performed the same as the 9800GTX+ back then when it came out.
I know it because i had a HD4850 and had to sell it for a 9800GTX+ because that piece of shit was a literal housefire reaching temps over 100c
>>55157806
Are you this fucking stupid? AT STOCK CLOCKS THE RX480 = GTX 980. OVERCLOCKED TO IT'S KNEES IT CAN REACH TITAN X TERRITORY.
>>55157896
Except the Firestrike scores actually put it closer to a GTX970.
>>55157734
New gcn architecture, 14nm LPP die shrink, 3d finfet transistors. Are you alright son?
>>55157893
i had it too for years too it took amd almost 2.5 years to actually give that card a +50% boost on perf
i cant imagine if amd finally fix their drivers team what we will see with those new cards
>>55157887
there is nothing to accept you blind shill
if that shit is not a lie we will see it once the proper benchmarks are out
before then AMD has nothing to oppose NVIDIA making them absolute losers because if you haven´t realized it yet NVIDIA sold quite a few of their cards unlike AMD who hasn´t released their cards
>MFW FURY X2 DESTROYS THE 1080TI FOR $400
>>55157923
right because firestrike is the perfect example of real life situations eh
with your logic fury x that has only 300 points more should be right about on 970 alley..
oh wait nvm that never HAPPENED
>>55157896
Are you this fucking stupid? AT STOCK CLOCKS THE RX480 = WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT. OVERCLOCKED TO IT'S KNEES IT CAN REACH 1080 SLI TERRITORY.
This is how stupid everyone sounds. Wait for benchmarks goddammit. I want the second coming of the 4000 series, but we know shit about these cards.
>>55157932
Nvidia rushed their release. That is why the reference cards were push first. If they didn't they would be releasing the same time as amd.
>>55157954
Great but that's pretty much the only benchmark out for the RX480.
>>55157952
For all the idiots that genuinely believe this, AMD won't be selling Vega for less than $600 if we're lucky. It's supposed to be chips with HBM2, that shit is both scarce and expensive. Unless they release fat Vega chips without HBM2, the $300-$600 price range will be Nvidia's domain unless AMD wants to sell the cards at a huge lost.
>>55157923
There's also firestrike scores that put it near an R9 Nano.
>>55157958
>this nigger so stupid he didn't realize the nda benchmarks are leaked
Op's math holds true.
>>55154768
Wealthy people (especially those born into wealth) are wealthy for a reason. That reason is they are tighter than a 3yo's asshole. They are also incredibly selfish and spoiled. They hate poor people and treat them like the lowest lifeforms on the planet. When the revolution comes etc etc...
>>55157927
Well, I bought it at launch because i fell for the meme of reviewers and forum-autists back then, pretty much the equivalent of imageboard-autists right now.
I ain't gonna fall again.
Pic related, you could hear that fan from 100m away.
>>55157990
indeed thats why we prefer to look at the firestrike only for the graphics score..
that gives some indication
>>55157991
>implying the die size shrink isn't a factor
Kill yourself shill
>>55158013
well when you go on amd you always go for msi or sapphire or gigabyte
the rest are a total shit imo
>>55154706
>/g/ is the smart consumer.
Apparently you haven't seen the headphone/mech kb fetish threads.
>>55158045
This. Sapphire cards are top.
>>55154706
>mfw take out loan to afford a gpu
>spending more then $300 on a graphics card
CANCER
>>55157979
That might be true but it doesn´t change that NVIDIA gained a head-start and most importantly we got proper benchmarks allowing us to properly tell how good they are
unlike the garbage AMD shills throw around for some time now
What´s with this NDA that AMD has that is supposed to run out June?
also fuck off amd always gets the best chicks
so the 480 is faster than the 1070 for 200 bucks less? what is nvidia doing?
>>55158100
I'd unlock her multiplier.
>>55158097
look at this
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GAMING-Graphics-08G-P4-6286-KR/dp/B01GAI64GO/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1466357028&sr=1-2&keywords=nvidia+1080
this screams bad yields=not enough supplies
>>55158113
No, it's somewhere between a 980 and 970 according to one benchmark and something like an R9 Nano according to another benchmark.
TSMC is having issues. Samsung and Globalfounderies are surpassing Nvidia's process. Fury will be cheaper and better then Nvidia's top cards.
>>55158024
Where did I label myself as any sort of fanboy or shill? That fact is that all we know of Vega is that it will have HBM2. That's it. Given that Polaris is targeted at the mainstream, it's stupid to think that Vega will just be Polaris 10 with HBM2 at a much higher price. They're going to do fat chips and those cost money.
>>55158100
aaaahhh...senpai my bclk is too hiiigh,im gonna craaaassshh
>>55158097
>ignoring the fact nvidia is shilling their shit out the door as fast as possible with poor yields when they realized amd got them by the balls
>>55158132
980ti was the same way. The only reason shit like that is happening is because they can't keep up with orders.
When RX480 comes out you can mark my words it's gonna be hard as shit to get a hold of them on day 1.
>>55154729
>>55155242
Are you and like minded morons unable to realize that if Nvidia had to they could undercut AMD. Because Nvidia hasn't had a foot in the grave for years like AMD, they could sell at a loss too.
>>55158005
>nda benchmarks are leaked
They're all claims are far as I'm concerned. I won't believe shit until it's released properly. I'm hoping for a good product, but hope holds no value.
>>55154706
>smart consumer
>1080
>>55158132
absolutely but that´s not the point
i´m not saying NVIDIA is good here i just say that the speculation about AMDs performance is worthless since the cards are not out unlike NVIDIAs
And that seems like a head-start to me if idiots are able to be milked for double the price
>>55154706
>remember to take the smart choices goy.. err I mean guys
>>55158163
shill what you want the card exists, is being sold and the performance was confirmed they can go with the poor yields because amd doesn´t offer any competition
>>55158169
no 980ti wasnt so bad at all simply because nvidia didnt rushed out with it...
remember that quake on taiwan that everyone said that didnt affect anything?
i bet you will see a lot of consumers cards instead being A1 being A0 mark my words
>>55158133
False. It matters what task and that is only stock.
>ignoring the oc preformance
The 480 will be in 980ti/Titan X territory if overclocked to 1.6ghz.
Gotta love the denial of nvidia fan boys.
Why do you think nvidia are dropping prices? AMD isn't. That should tell you something.
DON'T BUY NVIDIA UNTIL TEAM RELEASES.
So many reverse trolls in here, Jesus Christ.
>>55158184
>implying buying nvidia before amd release is a good idea
SHILL DETECTED
PAID NVIDIA SHILL SPOTTED!
Nvidia rushed the 1080 to market.
PAPERLAUNCH!
>>55158184
yes i agree but amd never actually intended to launch first different cards different groups
nvidia like it or not is locked on a escalated commitment of being self spammed as a premium
even if they wanted to they cant just slash the price to complete with amd because much image and bla bla..
Even if the 480 can 'only' reach 1.4GHz on air, that's still a significant hit to Nvidia for under $250
Does anyone know about the wattage need for the RX480? TDP seems to be about 150w? Wanna buy one of these when they're out. For a crossfire build would be a 750w psu would be enough?
My wife's adult son needs a new GPU to play dota 2 @144hz 1440p.
Should I buy him a 480 or 1070?
He told me he only uses nvidia but I don't have that kind of money for a 1070. I'll have to get a payday loan for the 1070.
>>55158269
150W minimum, around 220W in heavy gaming.
>>55158277
Get the little chump a 480.
>>55158277
Don't get a loan for a GPU
That's the worst idea I have ever heard
>>55158307
He doesn't have a choice, it's his wife son.
>>55158282
480 has a 6 pin connector literally 75w from it and 75w from the pcie
meanwhile here in 4chan we constantly like to prove newton theories wrong
lol just lol.. who would have thought a card that can literally only get 150 will actually get 70watts more from somewere else
>>55158307
He has autism and dota is one thing that keeps him occupied.
>>55158268
Exactly my point. And it was already leaked clocked at 1605mhz on air at 80°c.
>mfw 1070 owner start killing themselves
>>55158277
lets be honest you little faggot, you'll buy him the 1080 and he still won't call you dad.
>>55158252
>call people buying overpriced shit idiots
>get called shill because i somehow implied it´s the thing to do
you what mate?
i know it´s hard to read buddy
>>55158335
Hold your horses, nothing's been legit leaked yet, who wouldn't want it hit those clocks? But let's be real, there's not that huge of a chance of it happening.
>>55158318
BTFO
>buy $500 GPU
>play nothing but 90s games and emulators
I can't be the only one
>>55158225
>Why do you think nvidia are dropping prices?
They definitely haven't dropped prices on Pascal. Pascal is still (painfully) priced.
They have on Maxwell because, well, it's gonna get discontinued.
>>55158212
Not sure what you're talking about but it took months for 980ti to hold consistent stock. Good luck overclocking a stock $200 card to beast mode levels by the way.
Also fuck you mang, I'm running 4K on a Mini ITX build. I couldn't give a shit about a single midrange card.
I'm all for wishful thinking and do hope AMD puts out a good card to spark competition. Except I don't give a shit about midrange cards so I cba to care about this shit until Vega.
Last news seemed to good to be true, but it seems that AMD is mad about the overclocking leaks.
>>55158368
Isn't the 1080 a single 8pin? That's 225W and well within that range.
Nobody said the cards can't spike over that, the ATX spec allows that but not for a long amount of time before everything goes up in smoke.
>>55158387
>Good luck overclocking a stock $200 card to beast mode
Why wouldn't it be possible? There's nothing wrong with VRM amount for there to be problems.
>>55158411
Because the beast mode is highly binned, has the 8+6pin, and uses custom cooling?
>>55158369
Literally me. I want little to nothing to do with vidya's current AAA shitfest.
>>55158393
some random street shitter, seems real credible
>>55158393
What company isn't fucking mad about stuff under NDA leaking? That's common fucking sense, their goal is for shareholders and partners to read it first, public latter.
>>55158425
I seriously doubt the 8+6 pin is necessary, a single 8pin would suffice.
If the card is around 60C on stock, it'll need a significant OC to hit TJmax on it.
There's always increasing the fan speed, if you can handle some WHIRRRRRRRing noises.
NEVER FORGET.
"This particular $300 Rx 480 OC Edition will have toggle with two bios options - Standard bios of 1266mhz and Extreme bios of 1500mhz - All 6+8 pin models will be able to reach the 1500mhz mark - the only difference is some editions will have a overclock bios setting that will be set at the 1500mhz mark - while other cards will have to be done manually although today its easy to do manually by just a few clicks of a button with software - While running at 1570mhz - the OC edition runs at 72c with 99% gpu load with 65% fan - one impressive feat to say the least - This bodes well for AMD's new Polaris cards as it shows these cards are capable of even more than this impressive 1570mhz mark - In fact, in a closed box setup, we were able to "easily" obtain 1600mhz while running Battlefield 4 for over an hour with zero crashes or artifacts all while keeping below the 75c mark while using 99% gpu load - Even more impressive is the fact that the voltage usage leaves room for even a bit further tweaking to further our overclock past 1600mhz - One has to wonder what AMD has with the entire lineup of Vega right now - we can only imagine pure bliss in terms of performance at the top enthusiast level - AMD really does have something special on their hands. The Rx 480 while running 1500mhz is on par with the stock 1070 in-game, it even beats it on some games at this clock, anything more and the 480 begins to put some distance between the two cards. Keep in mind this is Dx12 games, this is where GCN 4 truly shows off."
>>55158466
For a 50% overclock? Shit yeah the 8+6 will be necessary.
The card might be able to overclock like a champ on the beast mode edition; shit you might be able to get some juice out of the ref as well, but 1600MHz OC was on the Beast mode edition. Assuming it will be the same on a ref card as it was on a highly binned version is just asinine.
Shit, at this point we should just ban all discussion until NDA breaks.
>>55158474
BULLSHIT
AMD CAN'T OVERCLOCK FOR SHIT, NEVER EVER
>Beast Mode
LOL LITERALLY MANCHILD TIER
I will never buy anything from a company who uses that retarded lingo to sell their products, just goes to show AMD is for children.
>>55158501
NVIDIA SHILLS IN SUICIDE MODE.
REMEMBER THE GTX280 FAGGOT IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN!
>>55158501
I'll screencap and repost this in less than a month.
>>55158393
Raj is out for blood.
Pascal buyers are on suicide watch.
>>55158501
Is Fiji your single experience with AMD overclocking? Sure sounds like it.
All I read from Nvidia zealots are insults. The salty tears will dry white on your cheeks soon.
>>55158393
I hope for his sake that this isn't a lie. If it is, release is close enough to burn this into the memory of the public and discredit the website.
As for breaking NDA, that's never a good move.
Haha, Nvidiots don't even care for the stock performance, they're shitting themselves becuase AMD released a chip that can overclock as well if not better than Tahiti.
Now I kinda want the reference models to not even be sold, because what we'll see is 1-2 reviews on AIB cards and everything else will be reference reviews even though the AIB cards are $20 more expensive but significantly better in every single way.
daily reminder that raja loves smoking nvidia ashes
http://i.imgur.com/vI8DM0u.gifv
AMDfag here, and a massive shill.
It doesn't matter what AMD releases, they could release 1070 performance for $200 and people wouldn't buy it as much as Nvidia because they have no marketing and gaymur manchildren are dumber than kidney stones.
>>55158530
>mfw I just preordered a 1070
Did I just fuck up guys? O shit.
>>55158608
>preordered
Yes, you fucked up.
>>55158562
This just gets me hyped for Vega more, a large die with enormous OC potential, while Nvidia can barely pull 15% OC this gen.
Will be a fantastic sight.
>>55154783
>AMD doesn't support virtual resolutions and monitor overclocking.
They supported monitor overclocking since the HD 4xxx series and they added virtual resolutions to all GCN cards (HD 7xxx and up) when the R5/R7/R9 cards came out.
>>55158595
>>55158608
>>55158625
That's tasteful and cool, unlike "Beast Mode" lol
>>55158608
>preordering a paper launch when the competition is real launching in a weeks time.
You tell me anon.
Anons, this isn't healthy at all. You should be wary with AMD and question everything that is leaked. I'm hoping for at least 290x performance, expecting anything above will hit you very hard if they don't deliver. Be patient and speculate on facts, not shit that anyone can fabricate.
>>55158608
considering the 480 is confirmed to oc to about 5x more performance for 200 bucks, yeah, you fucked up
>>55158642
480 doesn't compete with 1070 though.
>>55158171
They could not physically sell the 1080 at a loss. Trying to do so alone would literally kill them. The volume production simply isn't there.
>>55158659
I expect always >60fps max setting on 1080p.
Nothing more and nothing less.
>>55158666
because it blows it away
>>55158635
>That's tasteful and cool
>Red and green
>Fedora
>GPU with too many details, making it look cluttered, especially when everything else is moving away from angular designs
>Tasteful
>Cool
Yeah, no. I'd like some of whatever you're smoking please.
>>55158693
He probably vapes
>>55158666
Overclocked to 1.6 ghz at 80°c it does.
>not reading
>>55154694
>>55158474
>>55158703
RETARD! 1070 can overclock too!
>>55158693
What's not to like?
>mfw it's 2016 and people still cares about teraflops
http://www.hpcwire.com/2016/04/14/chinese-100-petaflopper-coming-sooner-expected/
>>55158703
I'm canceling my 1070 preorder as we speak. I'ma hold off.
>>55158710
>I'll overclock my $450 card by 10% so it's barely 10% faster than a $200 card
>"AMD BTFO"
You sound like a prime Nvidiot.
>>55158666
Worst case scenario the 480 performs a little worst than the 1070 for 3/5 its price.
I think it could cannibalize a lot of 1070 sales.
>>55158716
Both the GPU design and the colour choices there are better but I'm still not sure what they were aiming for with this. Are they trying to call back to the whole Batman thing? Weren't those games awful?
>>55158710
Barely. Nvidia locked it down. It is a very poor overclocker and can't even get close to 1080 performance. Nvidia didn't want another 970 repeat.
Read the overclocking reviews if you don't believe me. The 480 however is being fully unleashed.
>>55158722
DON'T FUCKING DO IT, DON'T FALL FOR AMD'S LIES!
>>55154694
now put a 300+ overclock on the titan X.
>>55158749
>Nvidia locked it down
They didn't lock it down, lol, the arch can't overclock that much because it's very similar to Maxwell, and a large percent of Pascal's performance comes from higher clocks instead of higher ALU throughput.
>>55158751
I was there to watch the gtx280 get ass raped by the 4870.
I'm just gonna wait until everything is on the table even though I might pay a slight premium.
>>55158710
>overclock 1070 by 25%
>get 10% performance increase
I'm so impressed anon.
>>55158559
you cant break NDA if you never agreed to it.
that's why we're not breaking NDA by talking about it.
>>55158770
>Nvidia caps the amount you can adjust the voltage by a lot
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/785626/tips-for-overclocking-gtx-970/
>>55158770
Keeping up clocks high isn't really sustainable in the long run, I'm guessing they'll be going for higher IPC/lower clocked architectures like AMD starting with Volta
>>55158801
Shit.
>>55158801
Going too high on voltages on FinFETs isn't really a smart move.
+0.2-0.24v is the max I'd go for GPUs nowadays.
>>55158770
there's a hardware cap on the voltage. Even watercooled aftermarket cards are having trouble hitting over 2Ghz because of this, which the reference cards can hit anyways.
>>55158740
The leaks put 1070 +40% ahead of RX 480. As a comparison, 7970 was 25-30% faster than 7870 (7970 $550, 7870 $350). The difference between a 970 and 980 Ti was also less than 40%.
>a little worse
That's just delusional.
>but I'll just overclock it
With 100% scaling (not gonna happen), you'd have to OC the card to 1772 MHz to catch up with a stock 1070. Now, considering an overclocked aftermarket 1070 is some 15% faster (see link below) than a stock one, you'd have to OC your 480 even further to catch up.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,30.html
They are in completely different leagues.
Are there any benches of memory underclocked 1080? I wanna see how bandwidth affects Pascal.
>>55158908
can we just stop taking videocardz and wccft seriously?
those shiils just slap numbers together nothing more
>>55158941
videocardz is trusty.
wccftech is not..
>>55158908
NOT READING >>55158474
http://www.overclock.net/t/1603252/wccf-amd-rx-480-can-hit-1-5ghz-new-overclocking-tool-with-voltage-control-coming/390#post_25267984
>>55158968
They're both fucking shit, go shill your site somewhere else.
>>55158968
really?
since may the amount of stupidness they spammed about every card was unbearable..
eventually they had to get it right since they covered EVERYTHING
from 1080 being x2 faster than titan x
or 1080 being 40% faster than a fury x on dx12
or or or
seriously they never did get anything OC they created
>>55158908
Sorry I just canceled my 1070 preorder. I can't gamble $200 hoping the amd leaks aren't true. Honestly 1.6ghz doesn't sound that unreasonable. I didn't realize what clock the 480 was at on stock. If the leaks are true I defiantly getting a Saphire or ASUS 480.
>>55158972
>unsubstantiated rumors on a fucking forum
I hope you people aren't actually taking this shit seriously and are just shitposting, otherwise you're going to be really, really disappointed
>>55159027
You do know the entire argument on Nvidia's side falls on the fact that they believe AMD can't possibly release a card that can overclock well when they have released such a card enough times.
One of them was a GCN chip.
>>55159027
Regardless I canceled my 1070 preorder and advise others to do the same.
>>55159020
if you are about to buy an asus amd card you better buy the 1070 lol
honestly
only sapphire or gigabyte or msi nothing more even if they provide 10 ghz
>>55159055
Didn't the entire GCN1.0 lineup OC well? I remember Pitcairn being a fantastic mid-range GPU
>>55159132
The 7850 was a pretty cute overclocker.
>>55159132
yeah nvidia even accussed amd that they clocked their cards too low lol
after that nvidia took the multi core support out of the physx
Should I get the RX 460?
I just want to play Doom and my GTX 750 Ti isn't cutting it anymore.
>>55158672
I'm not talking about the 1080, just talking about a similar card. Also if AMD can do it, Nvidia can do it. Because Nvidia isn't on life support.
>>55159203
Get a 470 at least, should be somewhere around a 970 for $150
>>55159055
nice digits, I've only ever owned AMD cards(290x now) I'm just setting my expectations quite a bit lower considering the price and the market they are appealing to
>>55159094
Nah id get an asus or evga out of any brand. Sapphire or gigabyte next. But msi? No never again. Any companywho just throws thermalpaste on my gpu making it run hot and shutdown should be shot in the foot. Spent a whole hour cleaning up that mess. It was everywhere. Mid tier mobo feel. Their laptops? Idk if everyone does this woth laptops but why have the gpu run through the cpu to render to the monitor? This creates so much hardware detection issues not only for games but video editing software too. I wont msi again, just my 2 cents. Blog over
ITT:
Didn't Nvidia release a card that can overclock to 1500MHz last gen? What's difficult to believe such a OC is impossible now?
>>55158703
>80°c
>still lower than 1080 at stock clocks
how can nvidia housefires even compete
>>55157890
>literally invented by pajeets
>>55159423
still better than a leather wearing drag queen
Why would anyone consider suicide over some GPU purchase?
>>55154930
funny you mention that. I was going for the 680 because benchmarks were showing it to be the better card .But because this was yet another paper launch, I got bored of waiting and went for the 7970.
FFW a few years, and lackluster long term support from Nvidia, the 7970 now beats the 680 to a pulp and has those features you wanted.
It's actually just starting to call for an upgrade, and look what AMD's providing!
>>55154694
STAY MAD NVIDIOTS
>>55159544
DELETE THIS
>>55159558
Like the USA is "only" 33% non-white?
>>55159544
Stop posting this fake shit
>>55159220
Neither team has sold any card at a loss.
Selling a high end product at a loss creates a vastly larger deficit than selling a mid or low-end product.
Selling the 1080('s chip) at a loss would be devastating to them. They don't have anything taped out other than GP100 and GP104, neither of which have good yields in the first place.
If you think AMD is selling the 480 at a loss you're sadly mistaken. The die is much smaller and yields go up exponentially the smaller your dies are because of dies per wafer and dies yielded per wafer.
>>55159544
>nearly perfect clock scaling
I wouldn't believe it if you actually tried.
>>55157890
FinFETs don't lose any frequency scaling vs planar structures by their nature.
>>55159634
Exactly. This is what nvidia shill don't grasp.
Zen + rx 480 master race times are upon us
>>55159544
DELETE THIS
>>55157763
7970 owner who can confirm this. 1020MHz and stable
>i'm a smart buyer for waiting for the next thing to come out. the next thing is going to be so much better than the current thing
meanwhile i'm enjoying the witcher 3 maxed out at 3440x1440 on my gtx 1080. are you guys expecting the 480 will finally be able to play some game you couldn't play at the settings you wanted before? you guys are going to use your new gpus to play games right? you're not just going to run benchmarks over and over again right?
>>55159729
dude, my HD6870 max it out at 1080p and is 7 years old. Fuck yourself
>>55159680
You should be able to push higher than that, anon. Around 1150-1200MHz is easily achievable.
>>55159729
I'm waiting for zen. The i7 6700 thermal lid is utter garbage.
>>55154836
>using steam users as a basis for determining whether you should buy a GPU
>as an individual
You're fucking stupid. Why the fuck do I care if Brazilians and Yuropoors have shit monitors? I don't and I want to play my shit in 4k. Fuck right off huehue.
>>55159729
you mean I should not buy the cards just to run benchmarks and get higher scores then my poor m80?
>>55159729
>playing gaymes
>ever
I need new powerful GPUs for upscaling video content to 4k with nnedi3 128 neurons
Do AMD shills honestly believe ocing a clock by 500hz will magically improve card's performance by 50%? 1080 goes up from 1600 to 2100 yet the performance gain is less than 5%
>>55157851
Polaris is 14nm. Pascal is 16nm.
>>55157851
The die sizes are different. I think polaris is 220mm while Pascal is 300mm.
>>55159865
I don't think you know what you're talking about.
>>55159896
Polaris 10 is 230, GP104 is 320
>>55159865
>6th grade maths
>>55154694
Whats the cheapest cpu that won't bottleneck this GPU the 4gb one specifically
>>55157754
>he doesn't know 3rd party vendors like to oc cards for a premium
You actually thought they were going to charge an extra $70 just for a fan?
>>55154694
let's hope that AMD's mem controller as well as the vendor's selection of GDDR5 can handle ~2200 clock rate, because no matter the bandwidth headroom on stock clocks a 30% OC on the core is going to need some space to breathe.
With any luck the chips can gain 25% performance from those clocks like that math estimates, factoring in a bandwidth increase
>>55160035
6300
Should I get the 4gb version or 8gb? 8gb seems like an overkill for 1080p
It's already a mid-range killer as is.
Now it seems to overclock well with shitty cooler (what do you expect at 200$)
There's gonna be a whole range of third party cards in the 250/300$ with much better clocks.
>>55160133
which one lmao, fx 6300 or i5 6300
>>55154706
Kill yourself my man
>>55154694
>fury x 2.0 disappointment
>>55159544
confirmed fake
>>55160157
wait the tests
Guys
GUYS
Should i upgrade to 480 from a 670?
Is it worth it for gayman?
>>55160157
For $20 that 4GB will come to haunt you in a year.
>>55154783
dude, the 1080 is shit. i mean the 1070 is ok, but still tho
a 199$ product with OC is close to the 1070.
you do understand that 1080 is overpriced right? hopefully tho the gigabyte extreme is good and can actually OC to 2.2ghz. that will be a good card, but until then the ref cards and non ref all perform exactly the same, clocking to 2050 and performance increase isnt great, its like pointless to OC Pascal.
thats why i dont like the cards overall tho, they just arent that good, and performance is like 25% over 980ti at best
