These are amazing. I don't understand why it took me this long to find them.
What are the downsides to these? Bandwidth is better than WiFi, latency is better than WiFi, and stability is way better than WiFi.
>>54990768
Not that i know... My internal net is at 282Mb/s even if we have got two different line
You have my interest shill. Tell me more
>>54990841
When i got mine my internet speed got up form 20Mb/s to 80~Mb/s
>>54990768
In houses with shitty wiring they can be not so good. But yeah I've had to use them once when I lived in a basement for a while, significant improvement over wifi.
I used them before I discovered the RJ11 connectors in my house were cat5e. The latency wasn't as good as proper networking, but it was a hell of a lot more consistent than wifi. Depending on the house's wiring, they might not work (I think multi-phase homes have this problem).
>>54990768
For some reason everything I do over PowerLan is slightly delayed
For example after opening a YouTube video it takes 5 seconds where nothing happens at all until it starts loading
After a connection is established though everything works flawlessly
I have no idea how to troubleshoot this
Used it for like a year, was pretty good. Unfortunately it broke after a power outage, wouldn't take the signal anymore. Went fuck it and spent the time wiring the house up with cat 5. It had the same effect as the power line adapter.
>>54991002
you do ping test with youtube server
check that with current setup, wifi, dirrect ethernet wire
Check the difference and make sense of data
>>54990768
Good in the case a room does not have Ethernet ports.
Bad if the house wiring is old/degrading. If a house was built over a longer period of time or in sections, there may be separate circuits for areas of the house. Don't work well if plugged in to a surge protector, so if you live in an area without grounds, can be some potential damage from surges.
If that thing isn't Wifi, what is it?
>>54991043
Actually a really good response.
>>54991062
Do a reverse image search.
>>54991086
Ah, an extender. This thread is now boring to me. I shall take my leave.
>>54990861
what does it do?
>>54991043
More or less did that already
Over wifi and direct wire everything is as expected and things work immediately
Even for pings it takes a few seconds before "the signal gets through"
After that I get normal results
It's obvious the problem is with powerlan, but I do not know whether it's the wiring or my adapters
>>54991436
>>>54991043
>More or less did that already
>Over wifi and direct wire everything is as expected and things work immediately
>Even for pings it takes a few seconds before "the signal gets through"
>After that I get normal results
>It's obvious the problem is with powerlan, but I do not know whether it's the wiring or my adapters
Leave a terminal open that pings Google to keep it active.
My house was built on 1990 and they work fine with its wiring. Also there area few that work with multiple phases - my house is 3phases and i got some devolos that handle it
Protip : Get one that return the power outlet to you
The only problem I had in the 4 years of use is that like three times or so i had to replug them for some reason
faggots. Just take the time and effort to lay down some proper CAT6 cables in your house
crap like this will never get close to a proper wired connection in stability and performance. don't even get me started on WiFi.
I tried Dlink's 600mbps and barely got 100mbps. My wiring sucks I guess. Took them back for a refund.
>>54990768
It turns your power lines into a radio transmitter which can perturb wireless devices in your home
Take the two hours and wire the rooms you need with cat 6.
This is better than wifi, but its a middle solution to just using cat 6.
>>54991556
>effort
No thanks
>>54990861
That's because you had a shit router.
>internet speed got up
>>54991606
I'd rather put in the effort than having unreliable internet.
>>54991597
>I live in a poor person bungalow
>>54991775
Ebin meme.
You dont need to wire the entire house. Just the router to the two or three rooms that need it.
Both kids rooms dont need it (if anything, they will use wifi that i can turn off), just the living room and bedroom for now.
Its not like you need a cat outlet every 5 feet.
>>54990768
>"just plug it in and it werks!"
sounds unsecure as fuck.
>>54991670
>>>54991606
>I'd rather put in the effort than having unreliable internet.
It has been reliable for me.
>>54991970
Well wifi is "reliable" too.
>tfw I have 1000/1000 FTTH internet
>tfw I use an AC wireless adapter with 5GHz and get 100+/100+ and no latency issues or packet loss issues
Get with the times, grandpa. Wires are so 90's.
Mine disconnects every once in a while and i have to un and replug it in
>>54991984
>get with the times
>has 100mbit network connection
kek
>>54991990
>>54991978
>>54991970
>>54991547
"Yeah its super reliable, i just have to unplug and replug it once a day"
>>54991955
They have an encryption system similar to WPA2
>>54991990
had the same problem but become extremely rare (once a week) when I'm on Linux
>>54992173
>extremely rare
>once a week
So this is considered extremely rare nowadays? The day my router/modem/computer/phone pulls shit like that on me is the day I return/trash it and buy new stuff
i have gigabit uncapped fiber internet, these things are fucking shit
>>54990768
All depends on your home wiring.
>>54991984
i get 36 megaBYTES/second using 3x3 stream 802.11n on 5ghz, you must be doing something wrong and/or be totally retarded
>>54992272
Please don't use non-standard measurements.
>36 MBps ~= 290Mbps
That is still horrible compared to Ethernet.
>>54991955
Yeah, just like ethernet cables. Everything should be wireless because muh encryption.
>>54990768
If your house has shitty wiring, you're fucked. Even if your house has good wiring, it's going to introduce some latency that, depending on your router, could be on par or worse than wireless.
Still excellent, in my opinion, but not perfect.
>>54992292
i use ethernet on my main machine. my laptop that stays next to my bed is on wifi
>>54990768
>Hero.png
WHY DO WEB DEVS DO THIS SHIT I'M GONNA FUCKING POP A BLOOD VESSEL
>>54992292
i was just being explicit because most people don't know the difference
>>54990768
Depends on how far you are away from your router.
If you are less than 25-30ish feet, drywall inbetween, with a good router, then wifi will be on par.
Anything more and you should start looking at other options.
>>54990768
Do I have to plug one of these directly into the wall plug or can I use an extension cord?
>>54992324
What about brick wall and wooden ceiling with a shit router?
>>54992326
I guess an extension cord will make the connection extra shitty, but I think it should work.
>>54992333
Run cat 6 then, you crazy euro.
>>54992246
Yes it's extremely rare in comparition of 2-3 times in a hour
>>54992355
The fuck is cat 6?
>>54992326
do you even know how electricity works?
>>54991156
Ethernet over the powerline. Essentialy Internet in one outlet and out the other.
>>54992365
category 6 ethernet cable, are you fucking stupid? get the shit out of this board
>>54990768
Enjoy your signal leaks
> Be me
> Get some TP-Stink adapters
> Shits cash till I start reading about potential security and data leak problems
> Take an adapter over to neighbourfolks house, plug in and check
> They on my internet nao
> Sell modules on eBay, invest in an actual LAN.
If you insist on using them, use the encryption features.
>>54992365
You need six cat to go on that internet. It's very elite hacker's trick
>>54992370
No. I'm a fucking moron
>>54992385 see above
PowerLAN is a piece of shit
They spam all kind of frequencies with their retarded garbage because power lines arent shielded at all. Kill yourself if you actually use one of these and thus create eletromagnetic bloat in your neighborhood.
Everyone using this shit should be executed immediately.
>>54992408
How the fuck does that work?
>>54992453
>not understanding the pseudo-science of some retard
>>54992067
>>>54991990
>>>54991978
>>>54991970 (You)
>>>54991547
>"Yeah its super reliable, i just have to unplug and replug it once a day"
Who are you quoting? I haven't unplugged mine since I got it.
>>54990768
Cause they are spotty at best. Depends on how your wiring is but I've had real trouble with them in the past. I ended up pulling them installing 2 wifi cards and bridging them for a second floor computer reaching a modem in the basement.
>unsecure as fuck
>unreliable
No thanks. If I was too lazy to do a simple cat 6 house wrap, I'd go with a MOCA network. Oh and most modern homes have their rj11 outlets wired with cat 5e.
>>54992453
Because every house in your suburb is wired up to the same fucking grid..?
>>54991821
You missed the point. If you live in a multiple story house, wiring to one end to another isn't exactly simple, unless you consider drilling holes in floors and wall simple; in which case you're fucking retarded to think anyone is capable of doing a clean job.
I used a set of these briefly as my dad wouldn't let me drill holes in the floor to route ethernet cables, the speeds were pretty shit so I ended up getting a wireless card instead, much faster.
>>54992694
What brand did you buy ? sounds like you bought shit ones.
>>54992772
I believe they were £20 Netgear ones.
>>54992821
Surprise surprise they were shit.
>>54992538
This
Moca works really well. 120 Mbps with shitty splitters. Change your connectors, remove unnecessary amps and 300 Mbps isn't abnormal.
>>54992326
I have one on an extension cord and it's fine.
>>54990768
It's not better than wifi, unless by wifi you mean 802.11g on a $40 router.
I have a $200 wifi router and get over a gigawatt
>>54992898
As long as it's better than the 54kb/s I currently get I'm happy
I have a pair of TP-Link adapters. They're a hell of a lot faster than Wifi. The only downside is the signal drops once every few hours and I have to reconnect. Its still a more stable connection than Wifi at the ass end of the house.
>>54992538
When you do this, do you need one, or two? I would assume two: one from router to MOCA, then one in the room from MOCA to computer.
>>54992538
Most homes don't have coax in every room either. Back to square one.
>>54992931
its set to eco mode. read the manual.
>>54991436
You aren't using them in a power strip are you?
>>54991546
Interestingly that doesn't help
Even while ping is running in another terminal, it takes almost exactly 5 seconds until things start happening:time ping -c4 google.com
PING google.com(ber01s14-in-x0e.1e100.net (2a00:1450:4008:802::200e)) 56 data bytes
64 bytes from ber01s14-in-x0e.1e100.net (2a00:1450:4008:802::200e): icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=30.6 ms
64 bytes from ber01s14-in-x0e.1e100.net (2a00:1450:4008:802::200e): icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=29.3 ms
64 bytes from ber01s14-in-x0e.1e100.net (2a00:1450:4008:802::200e): icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=27.9 ms
64 bytes from ber01s14-in-x0e.1e100.net (2a00:1450:4008:802::200e): icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=26.9 ms
--- google.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3003ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 26.965/28.735/30.667/1.412 ms
real 0m8.052s
user 0m0.000s
sys 0m0.000s
time ping -c4 gentoo.org
PING gentoo.org (89.16.167.134) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from www.gentoo.org (89.16.167.134): icmp_seq=1 ttl=45 time=44.1 ms
64 bytes from www.gentoo.org (89.16.167.134): icmp_seq=2 ttl=45 time=42.7 ms
64 bytes from www.gentoo.org (89.16.167.134): icmp_seq=3 ttl=45 time=40.9 ms
64 bytes from www.gentoo.org (89.16.167.134): icmp_seq=4 ttl=45 time=41.6 ms
--- gentoo.org ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3005ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 40.966/42.376/44.161/1.200 ms
real 0m8.066s
user 0m0.000s
sys 0m0.000s
>>54993046
I was, but now they're plugged directly into the wall
It is however next to the cables running to my router
>>54992680
>; in which case you're fucking retarded to think anyone is capable of doing a clean job.
Its actually pretty damn easy if you arent incompetent with tools.
>>54993579
Are both outlets on different circuits, or possibly bridged?
I have some on the way for my new apartment, hopefully it goes smooth for me, or I'll to sink low, and use wifi on a desktop :/
>>54992850
Yea I use MOCA for 150/150 mbps fiber and it works fine.
>>54993699
>it's actually pretty easy if you install cable for your job or have had the proper tools and training.
Kay
>>54991556
>What is an apartment?
>>54990768
thanks anon, now i dont have to use wifi on my desktop. hopefully this works better
>>54994215
Or just having a house/duplex/townhouse on rent, applies to a lot more people than just people putting up in apartments
>>54993699
it's a lot easier to plug OP's pic into my wall outlet
>>54993893
The rooms are both in the same apartment and on the same floor I'm living in, so there shouldn't be anything in between but I can't really tell
I usually just buy 200ft of extension cord and plug these into either end and run them down my hallway
>werks 4 me
>>54990768
Bandwidth is worse than wired
Latency is worse than wired
Stability is worse than wired.
It's like saying you prefer being punched in the ass than the groin.
>>54994315
OR now hear me out, maybe you should just run ethernet directly from the router to your computer
>>54994323
Well if your options are WiFi or PowerLine and you have relatively modern wiring in your house/apartment.... I'll go with PowerLine thanks
>>54991547
why tf do you have fucking 3phase going to a residential building?
>>54994315
at that point why not just buy a 200ft ethernet cable? wtf man...
>>54994352
but why buy more cabling when I already have like 500 ft of extension cords laying around?
>>54994315
>Not just running Ethernet
>>54994457
Latency and bandwidth
>>54994374
Some people just have bigger power needs than others.
My mom got 3 phase as well.
She needs it for her pottery oven.
>>54994509
im actually mad jelly ngl.
I want 3P for some server projects and running it out to my home would be expensive as hell.
>>54994454
>>54994472
if I ever need a longer cable i can just plug in another extension cord. If I had an ethernet cable I would have to rewire the whole damn thing. It also makes it modular in case I need a short run (say to my bedroom instead of my kitchenette)
>>54994215
I have a rental apartment.
Didn't stop me from drilling holes through the walls for both ethernet and HDMI.
I can always plug the holes back up when I move, no big deal.
>>54994521
Are you stupid? You could just buy a female/female ethernet connecter and just get another ethernet cable.
>>54994520
>running it out to my home would be expensive as hell.
IIRC it was under $1000.
Not exactly cheap, but not crazy expensive either.
I have these and I think they actually bottleneck my speed because on my desktop with them I get about 30-40mb/s and on my laptop I get around 90. I'm going to have a wifi card in my new system.
>>54994542
>just buy more things to fix your problem
and that's why I do it MY way, I already have all of the equipment and my extension cords plug into each other without any adapters necessary
>>54994542
>Are you stupid?
He's ribbing extension cords and PowerLine adapters instead of a cheaper and easier ethernet cable.
Of course he's stupid
>>54994602
you already suggested getting more extension cables. so whatever man.
>>54994611
thank fuck I'm not the only one who sees this.
>>54994525
If you aren't a massive savage about it they're pretty easy to patch. The one pain in the neck is if you live in an apartment where the walls are painted not just some shade of white/beige and you have to match the colors. And in the case of a cat5 cable where the head is so small, you could almost just use putty.
>>54994619
Yea extension cord cost like 5x as much as ethernet for the same length, not to mention the cost of the PowerLine adapters
>>54994623
Yeah, the HDMI cable was the only problematic one.
Made the hole big enough for the entire plug.
Painting the the next renters problem.
It's not a furnished apartment, I'm not even allowed to keep the floors in when I leave.
>>54992365
>The fuck is cat 6?
What the shot is this on my g? Cat 6 is low grade twisted pair cabling. The bare minimum that should be installed. The subgrades are better but if you're going to do it you might as well run Cat 7 until Cat 8 comes down in price or you move to fiber.
Now get the fuck off g.
>>54994731
this. I recently ran both cat6a and cat7 from my main level to the basement. 60ft of cat7 was only like 20usd
>>54991990
I have the same problem. They are very inconsistent, one week they'll shit themselves constantly and other work completely fine.
>>54994761
>this. I recently ran both cat6a and cat7 from my main level to the basement. 60ft of cat7 was only like 20usd
Tiger direct fucked up pricing and I got 1000' of white Cat 7 plenum rated for $8. They shipped it too.
>>54990768
>this crappy consumer product is crappy
>check out this slightly less crappy, crappy consumer product
Wave 2 mu-mimo or Ethernet, faggot. Everything else is wrong and dumb.
>>54994848
holy fucking shit anon.
What a find.
>>54990768
The only thing I can remember from my network certification studies is that not all houses can use them. Like different rooms on different circuits or some shit like that. Also, a security note, some one could literally just plug in to one of your outlets (like one outside) and get on your network. But unless you're hosting national secrets or something I doubt it's much concern.
>>54990768
Those things are asstrash compared to actual networking.
>>54994731
there isnt even a real defined standard for 7 yet
>>54991556
>Cat6
>Not CAT6A
>>54995177
Yes there is, it's for 40gbps over like 100ft.
>>54995204
>not cat7
>not waiting for cat8
>not custom-fabbing your own twisted pair cables with 0 gauge wire and 6" titanium shielding
>>54995249
>he doesn't use fiber
>>54995249
There's just no real reason to use Cat6 over Cat5e for gigabit or Cat6a for 10G.
>>54995281
unless he's running under 37-55m, in which case cat6 would suffice for 10g
>>54990768
The devices themselves work great but how good your actually connection will be is heavily depending on the wiring of the particular building. I've had them work great in one house and terrible in some others. If anyone is going to buy these, you should buy them at a local store so it's easy to return if you find out they suck in your house.
>>54995234
that is just what it can do, the actual cabling is not truly defined. there is a reason people arent using cat7 for enterprise drops
>>54995425
Because it didn't even exist before and they had to install fiber or use twinax? I don't think there are even any RJ45 40Gb/s devices on the market.
>>54995376
>If anyone is going to buy these, you should buy them at a local store so it's easy to return if you find out they suck in your house
>he doesn't use prime with free return pickup shipping
>>54992272
I used to get 96MB/s but broke it somehow after changing routers...
>>54995669
(on WAN wifi)
>>54990768
My friend has these in his house and they are unreliable as fuck. Total network disconnections occur maybe once every 30-60 minutes. Makes it a huge pain to play games with always online DRM (Dark souls 3 would constantly kick us out due to network drops)
This isn't an old, or a cheap house either. It built in the late 90s/early 00s, with good construction and wiring. Yet somehow he still has problems. Would not recommend these at all. The technology is just not able to provide a stable, quality connection yet.
>>54990768
They vary depending on the quality, type, and configuration of home wiring.
Have a TP-Link set of these at home, they work great.
How did this blatant shill thread for a product that doesn't work get 200 replies
>>54991591
Oh so its a botnet
>>54991556
Wanting ethernet in a non-papermade house (most of the ametican houses are made of wood, so it's easy to rewire everything)? Well fuck it!
I live in a house made of bricks and there's no way we are going to mortise all the walls only for new wires / optical lines.
Wat do?
>>54991597
>the two hours
I'm not living in an amerifat paper house
>>54992449
You're right! (Well you're wrong about the execution, but I think these devices should no longer be sold and the use should be forbidden).
In Germany some radio amateurs even called the "Bundesnetzagentur" (equiv. of the FCC) and they came with the "Funkmesswagen" (pic, car with antenna on top to locate spammers and other bad devices) and the people using the LAN over powerline had to shut it down. Unfortunately this isn't happening that often.
>>54995880
If you'd read the thread you'd realise it mostly turned into a general networking & wiring thread
>>54994184
>training
>drilling a hole in the ceiling
Jesus, did you guys grow up without fathers?
>>54990768
if your house has good/new wiring they are great, other than that and it could be worse than wifi.
>>54997410
No. Thanks for the feels though.
>tfw last thing I remember being taught was fishing and gutting at age 7
It definitely depends on your wiring, I live in a house where the wiring is all fucking ancient so it's actually pretty shit. I just use a wifi booster from downstairs to get signal upstairs now as that seems to work a lot better.
>>54994307
Do you have any wiring diagrams of your apartment? There might be some spic wiring wizardry going on with the outlets you're trying to use for your powerline.
>>54990990
Yepp
>>54990768
used it for some time buy hell, if you have anything heavy or some other electronic device on the same current that fucks with the power line you will wonder why the fuck the connection is so bad.
Is running Ethernet cables alongside the walls of your house considered ghetto?
>>54999827
should really use outdoor rated cable but it's not the most ghetto possible thing if it's anchored well
