How do we fix this? Most android devices are running an outdated version, and over 50% are still running kitkat or older.
>>54980187
50% of them are embedded devices with no internet so it actually doesn't matter.
>>54980187
"We" can't, fucking carriers and their bullshit updates. Also, this is how bussiness works, you make a phone marketed as "LASTEST ANDROID VERSON 6.9!!!!!", people will buy it, then just say "oh no, this phone cant run the new android version anymore :^)))), but you can buy our newest flagship". Fucking samsung, I'm not going to buy from them ever again, 2 years and counting since I got the phone with 0 updates.
>>54980326
They just updated my S5 to 6.0. Stop being poor and complaining about no support on $50 phones. :^)
>>54980388
Mr. Samsung, I payed 200$ for this phone from official stores, not some second hand ebay shit.
>>54980400
>I payed 200$ for this phone
>>54980308
Are you sure?
>>54980415
Feels good that you payed 400$ for a phone that will get obsolete when S8 edge will come out?
>>54980400
Considering they make and release something like 30 different phones every year, expecting top tier support for anything other than the flagship is idiotic. Especially considering all the carrier certifications, fees, testing, and other bullshit.
If you care about updates, you either do it yourself with custom roms, or pay money for $600+ Galaxy flagship, Nexus, iPhone etc. You got what you paid for.
>>54980434
>>54980415
>>54980388
>android users bragging about how much money they spent
Lol. Meanwhile every iphone is updated without carrier bullshit, kept updated years past the average Android phone, and is done on your schedule.
>>54980476
>iToddler bragging about paying +$900 for 1136x768 angrybirds toys.
>>54980476
Yes we know that, my friend still used iphone 4s (released in 20 FUCKING 11) and it's on the lates iOS version. Wish I didn't got fucked so hard by samsung.
>>54980187
Why fix it? S'cool.
>>54980388
/thread
>>54980326
>>54980388
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>54980600
You don't deserve those dubs
>>54980611
WITNESSED
>>54980187
Chinks will keep on making phones without updating them, so never
>>54980611
neither do you
>>54980187
what's wrong with kitkat ?
I got it on my z3c
>>54980187
>There are people right now
>on android
>who have never gotten an update
>>54980476
>technology forum
>on computers
>muh loonix
>look how 1337 h@x0r i am i wiped windows and installed loonix
>muh freedums
>lol enjoy ur botnet
>meanwhile on smartphones
>proprietary closed source 4 lyfe
>i don't have to and can't install anything
>lmao who cares about freedom
>omg i love botnet
>>54980187
Kill Samsung
>>54982140
>not LG
>>54982084
I'm on KitKat, forever.
>>54982156
At least they get a new version, what about these poor man Pockets, Gran Primes, Gran Duos, J12345678900
>>54980308
The data is based off live data from a 7 day period so its almost certainly based off devices that have connected to the internet.
>>54980187
Install GWX and use peer pressure, worked for microsoft.
>>54980388
oh damn, how did I not see this
>>54980388
this desu senpai
Poorfags should be grateful that companies produce $50 phones for zero profit just so these poorfags can have a phone at all. This is practically charity.
KitKat was the last good version of Android anyway. I wish I could downgrade to it, the new interface and design they introduced with lollipop is retarded
>>54982084
I had 4 android devices in my life. The only update I ever got was from 4.4 to 5.0 (which is garbage) on my Lg G pad.
Meanwhile my iPhone 5 bought in 2012 in running smoothly on iOS9+. Which is surprising considering how shitty the hardware is.
And when Im playing games the iPhones actually lags less than my Galaxy S3 (which is younger) that is stuck on 4.4.4.
I like android but having no updates is just sad. It keeps your device fresh and with the latest feature. I never once felt the need to replace my iPhone 5 and I will probably keep it until the battery dies.
>having to buy a new phone just to get some updates
You can't make this shit up
Bully manufacturers into offering updates for their devices.
Don't want to offer updates for your devices? Fair enough, the good shit is google play exclusive.
Start buying windows phone and iPhones until they go bankrupt
>>54980476
I own a Nexus :^)
>>54982624
Google should ban OS modifications beside default launchers and require that hardware documentation to be public.
None of this would be a problem if bootloaders were required to be unlockable and the Android driver model wasn't a fucked up relic that makes it impossible for custom ROMs to support lots of devices in a generic way.
>>54980187
How do they get these numbers?
>>54986081
Play Store? Google services?
>>54986237
source?
>>54986320
I'm just supposing
>>54982123
> not using Cyanogenmod
>paid 360$ total tax included for a note 2 back in 2012
>unlimited data Verizon
>install CM13 on it Android 6.01
>will use for another 4 years
prolly until 2020
Google is somehow working on this by giving more time to manufacturers to be ready when the update goes live.
The Xperia z3 got Android N preview in March and Samsung is rumored to launch the note 7 with Android N or get it a couple of months later. Obviously Nexus devices will always get the updates first though.
But non flagship devices, carrier-loked devices and most chink shit phones have 0 chance getting early updates if they ever get updates.
KitKat 4lyf
Infact, I'm sad that all the new devices are now on Lollipop or Marshmallow with no option to put KitKat on them.
I'm part of the KitKat group and there's nothing to fix. It's a tablet I barely ever use anymore and I have no reason to flash a new ROM. I really don't give a shit that neither the manufacturer nor Google care to keep it up to date anymore.
>Be android developer
>have to choose between using new features or supporting a majority of users
>>54989373
>be android developer
>develop for only latest + previous versions of android
>already have 5X the installed base of iOS
>>54980497
At least they have good power management and fast hardware. Unlike every Android phone in existence.
>>54989373
Do tell what features you're loosing out on. Curious.
>>54989428
>iShit
>5 minute battery life
>good power management
lmao @ ur lyfe
>>54989428
>Apple
>Good power management
>ANY power management
Top fucking kek.
There's a reason their laptops are 90% battery.
>>54989373
I bet you support Windows 10 upgrade, you sick motherfucker.
>tfw intentionally running Jelly Bean because newer versions are running terrible on my old first-gen nexus 7
>tfw scared to browse unknown sites and sites with ads because every skript kiddy can pwn me now
>>54989521
>browsing on your phone
get a computer
>>54989521
I've got Lollipop working pretty well on a Nexus 7 2012. Just had to wipe everything, run a manual TRIM, keep it light on the number of apps and never let it turn off. (It's basically useless for a short while following a reboot.) Sounds janky as fuck to describe it that way but it does work quite smoothly to be honest.
>>54989521
>not using a text only browser
>>54980187
>the plurality of Android devices are two versions behind
LOL fuck that shit.
There's very little incentive for manufacturers to update older models.
Change that, and you can fix it.
>>54985983
And /system read-only partition was a huge mistake, preventing rebootless updates entirely and requiring them to be wholesale, not piecemeal. And so is the way the ARM SoC device trees are done and the drivers, particularly graphics, are proprietary blobs.
There's no excuse. Security updates especially should be for all devices on the platform, within one single day. 24 hours. Maximum. That is not unrealistic; it is merely parity. Anything getting in the way of that is stupid bullshit.
Truth be told I don't know how you get there from current Android without a substantial burn-it-down/start-again redesign.
If we had a RISC-V SoC, open drivers, and we were doing it all over again we'd never make the same mistakes. And carriers can GTFO, just like Apple made them do.
>>54980476
>kept updated years past the average Android phone
But you have to buy a new iphone to get the updates
They literally release a new phone for every update and most of the time they do jack-shit
>>54986403
How big is the possibility of bricking your phone trying to install it?
>>54980187
This showed up in my >Google Now feed
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/06/08/google_is_taking_android_proprietary_heres_how/
Reports they're making Android proprietary, likely bullshit but it's a possibility
>>54982460
You never buy 50 € phones, they're all shit. And they are still making profit since they are around 10 $ to produce.
I bought a Z2 in 2014 and regret "updating" after every major update. Jelly Bean was best, and I think I'm going to rollback soon.
The new UI is pure shit. The newest Android also crashes my explorer.exe when I want to transfer files, unless I freshly restarted my PC.
I'll use this phone forever or go back to my K800i. What I am already doing, since I only use this phone when I need to take photos. The audio problem still persists and it seems it will be never solved.
Fuck modern phones, I won't buy a new one. I already wasted 30 € on these audio adapters. I could buy K800is for 60 years from that money.
>>54986403
>falling for the cyanogenmod meme
>implying cyanogenmod isn't botnet
>>54989521
I installed arch on my first gen Nexus 7, shit's up-to-date, fast and stable :P
>>54989632
Looks like Google is trying to fix that
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-25/google-steps-up-pressure-on-partners-tardy-in-updating-android
other than security risks it is not an issue
And if you're using any version of Android, security is not your concern.
>>54984753
>using the smiley with a carat nose
6.0 works OK on my nexus 7 2012
>>54989306
This.
>>54989921
using ip5, still getting updates. shit snappy af, no problems. I used nexus 4, shit battery life, shit camera, shite screen with washed out colours. Say no to Android. They are not even doing half of their best to make android better.
only buy devices made by the people who made the operating system
if you buy a phone that isn't a nexus, iphone, or lumia you are begging to get cucked
>>54986799
Muh Motorola gets Android N update for sure
>>54992392
>>implying cyanogenmod isn't botnet
Prove it, the code is all open.
lollipop and kitkat still gets security updates so there is no reason to update.
>>54982123
Android isn't free as in freedom either, just because it uses the Linux kernel or has some open source elements. Google intentionally made android open source to give it out to cell phone companies (Samsung, Sony, etc.), so they can spread it among the people. And they definitely had an interest in accepting the OS because it would have been tedious and expensive to develop and advertise their own OS and compete with everyone else. Anywho, that way, Google can put its software on every phone (Google search, maps, gmail, play store, drive, etc.). Google didn't make android open source because they care about user freedom, it was a pure marketing decision, and a brilliant one too.
The free as in freedom thing is a GNU philosophy, however android isn't GNU/Linux, it's Android/Linux.
Google makes it money through data and advertisement, and oddly enough most Google-made programs can't be uninstalled from Android.
https://stallman.org/philosophy/android-and-users-freedom.html
>>54995627
Messed the link up. It's
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/android-and-users-freedom.html
>Replicant is the free version of Android. The Replicant developers have replaced many nonfree libraries, for certain device models. The nonfree apps are excluded, but you certainly don't want to use those.
>By contrast, CyanogenMod (another modified version of Android) is nonfree, as it contains some nonfree programs.
So we are just going to pretend Honeycomb never happened?
>>54980187
Thing is most of the are running the latest version of Google Services so it doesn't even matter, things like the new keyboard are delivered to all these devices with updates in the Play Store instead of system updates
>>54980187
my galaxy s2 runs marshmallow. No problem here
Not a problem never versions has no good features.
and the chances of a exploit is smaller than the risk of a fuck up in the update process (that all platforms have)
my galaxy is sitting pretty at 4.4.2
Froyo mustard race here
>>54994055
*karate
>>54995326
Motorola is fine too.
>>54980308
>embedded devices
It's pretty uncommon to have Android running in an embedded device.
>>54995683
Usage is below 0.1% so it doesn't show in this chart anymore. Completely dropped like months ago.
>>54980187
There's a reason why the Apple iPhone 6S Plus is objectively the best mobile device by all possible metric.
>>55000577
2 rupees have been deposited in your shit wiping hands Rajeesh.
>>55000577
Id like to say it isnt, but I cant name a single phone that is superior.
>>54980187
I'm on Marshmallow on my M8, but it's not as if Jellybean and KitKat don't work just fine.
It doesn't matter - Google can update the device applications which is the only thing that is actually important
