>$199
>5 TFLOPs
>8Gbps GDDR5
>8GB VRAM
>150W
It's over. Nvidia is finished.
poo
in
>>54938286
/g/ can meme all it likes
good specs
of course most people here know that so I'm not sure why I'm replying to a bait thread
jen-hsun's mouth
the
LOO
>>54938383
>good specs
Too bad the drivers suck.
>1070 in 4 days
>480 in 23 days
Looks like I'll be buying Nvidia again.
>>54938430
>Looks like im being cucked again.
Fixed.
>>54938383
It'll definitely be interesting when reviews are out and the little twat at HardOCP sees it only draws 100w.
I fully expect him to publish an apology groveling for AMD to send him free shit again.
From both AMD and Nvidia we're seeing a pretty important push for computing. The impetus behind progressing GPU performance has always been gaming as far as the consumer market is concerned, and we've started touching on "good enough" visuals. For a lot of people its hard to justify upgrading. The industry always has their finger on the pulse of the consumer, and they knew that 4K monitors sure as hell weren't going to win over the average person. VR however is something that everyone is banking on. Tons of venture capital groups are just beating their dicks bloody and raw over the thought of potential profits in VR.
AMD and Nvidia delivering VR capable GPUs at respectable TDPs is actually a big game changer in terms of how things will trickle down. We might start seeing more disruptive technologies be incorporated into GPUs in coming years as they fight to edge each other out in areas beside raw frame rates. Imagine one of them licensing ImaginationTech's hardware ray tracing ASIC and putting it on die with their GPU.
Big things are happening, anon. Big things.
also bait threads are perfectly fine if you turn them around.
>>54938430
Only a turbocuck would buy a reference card for $80 more, and those will be all that's available for weeks after launch. We'll probably see custom 480s before we see custom 1070s.
>>54938463
>I have literally no counterargument but must defend AMD's inadequacy to the ends of the Earth in an effort to remain contrarian.
Ok.
>>54938489
>I fully expect him to publish an apology groveling for AMD to send him free shit again
He won't. He's burned his bridges and taken a shit on the ashes at this point. AMD won't ever deal with them again, so he may as well just go full shill and try and be Intel/Nvidia's top boy instead.
>>54938505
What argument can be made against some moron saying that they're going to spend an extra $250 so that they don't have to wait a couple of weeks? I guess it's mommy's money anyway, so you don't need to worry about it.
>>54938424
maybe for your autism OS you weibo faget
>>54938523
I'm paying more for the better performance, the time frame is just cinching the deal.
>no real argument
>more baseless insults
Well memed. Give me one REAL reason to justify waiting for AMD to pull its head out of its ass.
>>54938558
You have no argument either.
>Waah me impatient baby and me want graphics card NOW NOW NOW!!!
Enjoy paying $250 more for that extra 10%, cuck.
>>54938558
tip top C U C K
>>54938558
FreeSync is cheaper and better than GSync.
The 480 has better performance per dollar and per watt than the 1070.
Contrary to the memes AMD software is vastly superior. See; Eyefinity vs NoVideo surround.
i'd rather donate it to his family in mumbai to puy 10 loos instead
>>54938633
AMD technology is always better
See: Crossfire vs SLI
>>54938615
>>54938624
Literally nothing from either of you meme spouting fucks. If you really wouldn't pay extra for marginal gains you'd be using an R7 260.
>>54938633
>FreeSync is cheaper
Sure.
>better than GSync.
No.
>The 480 has better performance per dollar and per watt than the 1070.
I can afford to pay extra for a premium.
>AMD software is vastly superior.
Absolute nonsense.
>>54938286
It's 5.5 tflops, <100w and 199$ for 4gb version you stupid nigger
>>54938655
I had to turn off crossfire because it would cause insane screen flicker in most games.
>>54938424
Yeah, it's not piss resistant too..
when is release day
>>54938708
That's not a xfire exclusive problem, that's your mobo being shit.
>>54938749
>>54938690
>>54938642
epic meme, why don't you guys try to contribute instead of making this shithole bigger shithole
>>54938523
>so he may as well just go full shill and try and be Intel/Nvidia's top boy instead.
I mean hes definitely not a good writer, and HardOCP isn't the most visited site around. With declining ad revenue on the web all these tech sites are desperate since the writers don't work real jobs. The reason why they get so asshurt from getting cut off is because they can't afford to buy the hardware on their own for reviews.
When they burn those bridges they burn them all. AMD says no more free shit, and rarely do specific vendors hand out free cards unless you're well known and in good standing with the company. Hell, Nvidia in the past has told partners to not send test units to certain reviewers for doing similar things.
I don't think hes going to start getting pats on the head from Intel/Nvidia for being an asshole. You don't bite that hand that feeds, and new masters don't buy broken dogs. He'll be begging to be let back in.
>>54938690
Up to 5.5TFLOPS according to internal AMD slide deck. This is probably in regards to a boost clock.
The stated TDP is 150w, power draw however is probably around 100w,
Am I the only person who posts in these threads to try and set facts straight rather than blatantly lie to support a soulless corporation that would kill you if it meant .1% increased profits for the next month?
480 benchmarks when?
>>54938842
i come to amd threads to remind people to poo in loo
>>54938679
>>better than GSync.
>No.
No.
>>54938286
Lets not forget the 150w is the maximum draw.
The real world power usage could be low as 100w
>>54938911
Which means juicy OC possible
>>54938880
Which one stops preventing input lag over 120Hz?
Here's a hint, it's the cheap out.
>>54938538
>buys highend gaymen graphics card for not gaymen
ok
>>54938424
You can't piss on a GPU though
If this thing can do 1080p at 60fps on ultra then it's a steal. My 4K monitor up converts 1080p to 4K anyway, that's good enough for me right now.
>>54939062
>monitor up converts 1080p to 4K
>>54939119
It's not perfect but it's better than spending the money it would take to get 4K at 60fps. It would take two 1080s to do that.
>>54939157
Why then did you purchase 4k monitor in the first place?
>>54939171
I didn't. It was a gift.
>>54939171
>the only purpose of hardware is to play AAA video games
>>54939157
>GDDR5X for 4k
That is just silly.
>>54938286
The 8GB will be 250.
>>54939231
source?
>>54938856
>I come to /g/ to post memes :^)
>>54939305
:^)
>>54939186
tell me which other games that can naively run 4k, none? cool m8.
>>54939749
What
>>54939749
He is talking about watching movies and shit m8
>>54939749
Tell me which other posters can naively act so fucking retarded. None? I doubt that; even in your extreme stupidity you're not special, m80.
>>54939749
wat. I played tons of games on 4k with a single shitty GPU. it's the only way to significantly improve graphics of older games.
the 1080 can handle a lot of new titles on 4k 60 fps. the problem is that reviewers and benchmarkers always crank up all settings to ULTRA, no matter if it makes any sense.
shit like "fog detail" that costs 20% performance and gives you barely any visual difference can be turned down and you'll get a lot more fps already.
>>54940109
>Just turn some settings down!
No, fuck off.
>>54939749
looks like you've been spending too much time on /v/, friend.
>>54938286
>Believing head pajeet AMD shill
>There's no hardcore benchmarks released confirming any of his claims
Not even nvidia fanboy but will you guys believe anything that a salesman says?
>>54940163
>thinking one of the worlds most accomplished mathematicians is a salesman
>pajeet meme
>have to go out of your way claiming to not be a fanboy
Desperate fanboy shill detected
>>54938424
2 480s at 50% (beta unreleased drivers),
beat gtx 1070 at 90%.
drivers suck because THE CARD ISNT FUCKING OUT YET TRIPFAG WEEABOO.
when good drivers come out, nvidia is going down the hole in the designated shitting street
>>54938286
Should i drop my msi r9 390 once this is out
well it does seem that amd has defecated on the competition this time.
>>54940125
Then play at sub 50 fps or fork out, nobody gives a fuck what you do sunshine.
is Catalyst driver on Linux good enough? I heard that their linux driver is bad comparing with nvidia.
>>54938489
>It'll definitely be interesting when reviews are out and the little twat at HardOCP sees it only draws 100w
that sounds super retarded, can you give me a link?
>>54939231
>>54939266
229
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10-launch/
>>54938430
only bitch kids can't wait for about 3 weeks , you sucker you deserve to get cucked .
getting a polaris 11.
this intel onboard is shit with madvr.
>>54938286
any nvidiafags happy about this? I bought a memecard last year for around the same amount, and the fact that AMD can offer a competitive product at this price point means that nvidia either loses hold in this segment or is forced to step up their game.
For real, if the best they have to offer is a $600 1080, I welcome as much competition as AMD can provide.
>>54938286
>$200 gpu
>with fury performance
You know this means that it can prob handle 1440p at 60fps so tell me /g/ why have are you still using a 1080p monitor in 2016
>>54938430
Not even in the same price bracket so try harder next time.
>>54940819
You have almost a good attitude. Being loyal to one company or another is the worst mistake you can make as it stifles competition.
If people were loyal to nvidia they wouldn't need to compete with AMD even if AMD released the best GPU in the world for $100.
But even for fanboys, AMD doing well is good news as it means nvidia has to lower prices or increase performance.
The reverse isn't true though since AMD is clearly the market minority. If nvidia products are great then this means that AMD could just die. Until things are equal, of course.
>>54940912
Because screens big enough for me to notice the difference are too big for me to sit close to comfortably.
Screens small enough for me to sit comfortably at close by are too small to see a noticeable difference.
Wow AMD defense force is in full swing because people are questioning a too good to be true assertion.
>Nvidia fans jacking off over a $600 card when 90% have $150-250 cards
>AMD fans in damage control over a stronger card that beats there $200 card for $400 more when 90% of them have $150-250 cards
>Both of them are bad at video games
>>54938377
ur mum's Gentoo shithole
>>54938911
it's 96w full load
>>54941048
>too good to be true
>something this laughably mundane.
This is an oscilloscope reading of Fury X's power consumption done by Tomshardware.
Fury X uses the Fiji die which is 64CU 3rd gen GCN. Its a 28nm HPP die. Average gaming load power consumption is 230w or under.
The RX 480 is 36CU 4th gen GCN which brings some slight IPC uplift. Its using the 14nm LPP Polaris 10 die. AMD stated it has a 150w TDP, actual power consumption is probably 100w.
There is literally nothing out of the ordinary about this. Its 8CU less than Hawaii with higher clocks, and a massive difference in drive voltage thanks to being 14nm.
You're a tech illiterate retard to the core. Off yourself.
>>54941163
>If you disagree with me you're a retard
5 rupees have been deposited into your account
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility/
>In the simplest terms AMD has created a product that runs hotter and slower than its competition's new architecture by a potentially significant margin.
IT'S OVER, AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
>>54938424
How the shit can you foresee how the drivers to perform on a card that hasn't been released yet? Are you psychic?
>>54941205
You're quite late you know, most of the hardcore shitposters arrive in a timely fashion. Perhaps you noticed the recent WebP in .webm autist?
If you can't respect the art maybe you should try something simpler, like a communal meme. Referencing the unsanitary defecation practices common on the exotic subcontinent of India is quite popular these days.
>>54941192
>can't deal with facts
>just shitposts
Typical tech illiterate retard behavior.
Polaris 10 is a minor upgrade over Grenada at lower power thanks to PowerTune IP already shown off in Fiji, and process node. That is ridiculously mundane.
>>54941227
All that tripfag does is shitpost in AMD threads.
>>54941241
> All that tripfag does is shitpost in AMD threads.
I know, but I enjoy calling him out on his bullshit. He makes all these wild claims with literally nothing to back them up, at all. And then gets mad when people say "You can't possibly know that."
>>54941084
>>Nvidia fans jacking off over a $600 card when 90% have $150-250 cards
This is common among hardware enthusiasts.
>>AMD fans in damage control over a stronger card that beats there $200 card for $400 more when 90% of them have $150-250 cards
their*
>>Both of them are bad at video games
That's just stupid. If you don't play games for fun and are there for the HARDCORE HIGH SKILL COMPETITIVE EXPERIENCE you're an even bigger manchild than any shill.
>>54941273
>Takes the response seriously and over interprets being bad at gaming comment meaning competitive gaming
>Calls someone a manchild
>>54938286
>It's over. Nvidia is finished.
wait for the drivers
>>54941337
>implying there's any other situation where ability to play well matters
>implying that sweaty tard wasn't 100% serious
This is /v2/.
>>54941343
What will the Nvidia camp do if, by some miracle, the AMD drivers actually function well?
What will they point at then?
>>54938430
You'd probably pay to let jen-hsun give you aids and then praise him for his superior aids on the internet.
>>54938489
VR is shit and mean nothing to everyone, except fat fedora basemant habitants.
>>54941593
> i won't use VR
> ergo, nobody uses VR
I hate people who use logic like yours.
>>54938558
you're a cuck, that's for sure
keep justifying it
will it run Dark Souls 3 at 1080p highest settings at 60fps or more?
>only 5 teraflops
>My 4 year old 7950 does 3 teraflops
Huh, really makes you think...
>>54941635
Yep.
>>54941895
i know you are a shill but in reality amd cpu's are worthless garbage that gets outclassed by intel cpu's that are a few years older
their gpu's have shit drivers and always have issues with games, also they run hot and loud as fuck, sure they are a bit cheaper but you are getting an expensive piece of shit in the end
>>54942421
5shekel have deposed in your bankaccount mr shillstein, well shilled. Keep the goys at bay
The 480 matches the 290x, and the 290x gets BTFO by the 1070, how's AMD beating Nvidia again? Another AMD rebadge, move along.
>>54942963
0.000001 rupees were deposited in your loo rajeesh, don't forget to poo in it
>>54943011
>the 480 matches the 290x
says who?
also
>1 game sample size 1 resolution sample size
kek
>anyone who has the money and want the best performance is a cuck
Shows how insecure and buttblasted these poorfag AMDshits really are, mad AND poor, can't make this shit up senpai
>>54938430
For your wife's son?
>>54943011
>DX11 ASIC
>>54938943
a friend of mine left his case open once for reasons I don't quite remeber
his 980sli setup got fucking wrecked because his cat decided it'd be nice to piss on it- literally
>>54943334
Read the review, the 290x is half the performance of the 1070. Fine for a $200 card, but gtfo with the group think it's nearly the performance of a $370 card
>Overclock my brand new 480 by 20 mhz
>Watch it burst into flames
>S-sure showed you, nvidiafags!
>>54941797
That this is a midrange card and youre comparing it to a high end card from years ago?
>>54943432
>$370
Top KEK m8, gl getting it for that
>>54943476
Nice try anon but nVidia retook the housefire crown with the 1080
>>54943557
>next gen temperatures
>>54943557
What is the "uber"? Genuinely curious.
>>54938286
Yeah but when does it come out? Because I don't believe anything until the reviews.
>>54943539
Damn... Might have to wait a FREAKIN' month... Going to rage here if I don't get it day one!
>>54943597
Basically it was a switch on the reference cooler that turned the fan speed to 90% (i think) rather than the usual 40% and turned it into a leafblower only bested by the FX5000 series
>>54938430
>1070
Are you playing at 1440p or 144hz? If not, then there's literally no reason to be a 1070. The 1070 is way, way overkill for 1080p 60fps.
>>54943711
not him but i do 2560x1440@96hz on linux
what should i get?
>>54941593
VR is fucking amazing, there is plenty of room for improvement.
The main problem is the cost and lack of meaty content as it is still early days. Nothing has me hooked for hundreds of hours yet just some short experiences with nice concepts here and there on a shoe string budget.
Every single fucking person I demoed it on to date has had their minds blown.
My current favorite is H3VR, waiting on budget cuts to release since its demo felt like playing a proper polished VR game.
Just need to make the HMD wireless, ramp up the resolution to at least 4k per eye, bump up the FoV, throw in fast and precise eye tracking, jam in this baby to the controllers while keeping it compact
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=610iTKlYBVM
and I am fucking set.
>>54938286
I think something that many are over looking is all of the new things that are in polaris. This could be a seriously kick-ass card and especially for the price.
>>54943823
>Those "NEW" tags
looks like something youd see at a shitty run down poo in loo store
fitting for AMD
>>54938286
POOLARIS IN LOOLARIS
>>54941227
He's a shill.
>>54943711
What if I'm playing at both?
>>54944487
Then you need a bigger GPU like Vega.
>>54944487
Congratulations, you've got yourself cuck'd. Now what's the next step of your master plan?
>>54944487
So am I.
I've got a 290X, and in most games I use SSAA in one from or the other, because 90% of games are CPU-limited, even with an overclocked 5820K. It's fucking ridiculous really.
>>54941260
>I like giving tripfags attention
>I think I'm doing something good
>>54938430
I'll wait for the 480 to come out and buy the 1070 then (hoping for price dorp)
Am I still good with my 2500k overclocked to 4.4ghz or should I upgrade before I get the 480?
>>54946358
ure gud
>>54938286
This thread in the nutshell.
TERA
E FLOP
R L
A O
__P
>>54938286
>Weaker then my gtx 980
MSI GTX 1070 it is along with a i5 6500k to go with it
>>54940524
I actually want AMD to win this "battle" this time, but I'm very skeptical.
Because AMD drivers, even stable, even after a year, are still buggy, glitchy and shitty. If even windows explorer resizing just shots itself, you know it's bad. Yes, I tried it with Windows 7,8,8.1 and 10 on different drivers. No difference. All shit.
I hope AMD wins this, but fuck me if they won't rewrite their drivers they will still fuck up and be bad cards
>>54938286
>$199
>5.8 TFLOPs
>8GB VRAM
>96W
>No thermal throttling
>tons of oc headroom
I fixed it
>>54947186
>5.8 TFLOPs
>96W
>tons of oc headroom
What.
Source?
How do you even know if there's room to OC?
>>54938286
If it can do 75%-80% of a 1070 @ 100W it's probably going to be a huge win on AMD's part. Most people will probably be unimpressed since no matter what AMD does shills will continue shilling nvidia, and it doesn't look that good when your best card you have at the moment can't even shit on the worst card nV has out at the moment. I expect a 490 to drop soon thereafter to at least see the 1070.
>>54947072
It's $200. Who cares if it isn't quite as good as a 980?
>>54940621
That is correct.
>>54947208
I'm Rajas personal bodyguard, I heard AMD big bosses talking and they said they will earn so much with rx480s that they will start a space mining company, launching AMD (tm) rockets to the asteroid belts.
I gotta say if the 480 8GB version equals or is slightly more powerful than my 390 I might just buy it just to save the heat the thing pumps out.
>>54947072
But it's not.
Idk famalam I only have a 100p monitor but Mad has bad drivers
>>54938286
This card looks way better than anything Nvidia has out for the same prize. Too bad the drivers are going to be shit, though.
>>54949646
>AMD has bad drivers
Where did this meme even come from? The only basis for it is the shit beta drivers that set default fan profiles to start at 600 Celsius, but Nvidia beta drivers are just as bad.
>>54938424
Tripfag confirmed fag
>>54938505
>I must bow to the bigger marketing budget.
>>54938286
>>54949839
Probably has something to do with the fact that some games won't run on AMD, the drivers crash, and they literally have released entire updates with the only change being "improved crashing" so that it could gracefully kill everything using the GPU and restart the drivers instead of bringing down all of Windows.
They have an epic legacy of fail stretching back to before they were bought by AMD.
No thanks I'll get the GTX 1070 and have proper driver support
Who cares what is better all the amd is doing is giving nvidia competition
>>54943744
a better monitor
>>54938286
>$200
>8GB VRAM
pick one
Will my i5 4570 bottleneck that shit?
>>54943841
your opinion is worthless and brings nothing new to the table but
>hurr it looks cheap
>>54953834
At 1080p 60hz, forgot to say
>>54938286
is that the chocolate rain guy
Waiting for the 490.
Reality
>$239 for non-gimp version
>5 TFLOPS (on paper)
>not even GDDR5X lmao
>~140w usage
>shit drivers destroy performance
>>54953957
>I can predict the future
no you can't so fuck off
>>54953852
Chocolate rain in the loo.
>>54953957
>reality
Nope, only in an Nvidiot's fantasy,
>>54938424
Fuck off pissphone
>>54947243
Equaling a 1080 in crossfire puts it at 980, which is 75% of a 980 ti. 490 will get close to a 1070 if its 44 cu.
Its actually pretty disappointing if it ends up not being faster than a 390x regardless of the price. 36 cu is 25% down from the 390x so all the speed improvement is coming only from increasing base clocks 25%. If so they better have figured out why Fury X is shit or it isn't touching pascal 102.
>>54953957
>GDDR5X
Literal memeory.
>>54954058
Performing between the 980 and Fury for $199/$229 is still a fucking steal
does AMD even work on loonix yet?
I'm not switching from my gtx760 until AMD has drivers for linux, idc if I'm on AMD10 socket with ZEN's 50th new chip at 7nm in 40 years. I'm still not buying another card until amd has drivers on linux
>>54954203
im using my r9 280X on linux with no issues I can think of
proprietary driver, though I hear good things about the opensource
>>54953834
probably not on Vulkan and DX12
>>54954264
idc if it's the proprietary driver
they're actually doing decent now? I know a fuckload of work has gone into it, but didn't know the results
are you playing any steam games etc?
>>54954203
Zen APU will probably faster than the 760 anyway
>>54954332
yea I was figuring so hahaha
hm, you're kidding right
>>54954332
>>54938424
I didn't realize it was still 2006.
>>54954372
not like it's a high hurdle to begin with
Rx490 confirmed. 1070 dead on arrival
>>54954332
Its possible, but I doubt it. The Polaris 11 demoed was pulling just under 50w for equal or better performance than a GTX 950 which is a bit slower than the GTX 760.
Putting that as the IGP in Raven Ridge would take a lot of work, and there absolutely would have to be HBM on package to feed it. With a little OC it could match the 760 at stock.
I'd like so see AMD pull this off with 4 SMT enabled Zen cores hitting 4ghz in Raven Ridge. I just can't ever expect the best from AMD.
>>54954641
HBM is definitely being used for the APU. It's basically what they'll be using HBM1 for as their GPUs move to HBM2.
>>54954649
Enabling performance on APUs was always the intention from the very beginning, but AMD can't make it happen unless its economical. The use of HBM means that the package needs a glass interposer on top of it, and failure rate for assembly with HBM is higher than anything else right now. That APU would have to carry a premium price tag to be turning a profit.
$250-$300 for a high end APU pitted against the latest mainstream i5/i7.
>>54954684
great for laptop world, I don't see that going crazy in desktop world
>>54954697
It would be a hard sell unless Zen is actually competitive. You can't pair a $150 CPU competitor with a sub $100 entry level GPU and sell it for top dollar even if it has an attractive set of features and low TDP.
If it were closer to $200-$225 it might start making more sense, especially if lower binnings were priced aggressively. Non SMT models at $180, Non HBM models at $150 and below.
Just enough to still compete with locked i5s and i3s.
That would be something OEMs would continue to jump on and stuff into low cost SFF desktops. Those have always sold well enough since Llano. Makes for a simple system for manufacturers to cut corners on, so they love shitting them out by the millions.
What's the card even called?
>>54943118
>says who?
most if not all benchmarks so far.
>>54954941
pooX
>>54954978
Could you post one?
Only one I've seen so far was the videocardz 3DM11 which put it on par with the Fury.
>>54938286
>have 2x GTX 670
>start of the year begin hyping up for a new card, mine are getting old.
>now no longer hyped because there are no good games that demand that much power.
Feels bad man, my desire to upgrade is gone now. Overwatch is the only game worth playing at the moment, and that runs on a toaster.
>>54955021
>not throwing money at VR and high refresh rate 1440p or 4k
Gotta waste money so your internet buddies know you aren't poor.
>>54955021
Sorry to hear that anon. Maybe you'll find something graphically intensive in the near future that suits you.
>>54938489
>disruptive technologies
nice "buzzwords"
i bet you don't even know how to shift paradigms.
>>54955043
>>54955044
I guess I'm waiting for 4k, 120Hz monitors to become more common.
>>54955047
Please. I synergize as I move forward daily.
>>54955068
Well you're waiting for DisplayPort 1.4 then. Which would be... eleven days ago.
Good news.
>>54955001
The only indications of its performance are
1440p 60fps vsync'd hitman
1440p virtual super res Doom at 70-80 fps
multiple AotS benchmarks
3dmark 11 scores which are hard to make comparisons against.
>>54955173
>Hitman
>Doom
>AotS
Of course.
You know, I'd honestly be more hyped for the card if AMD just cut the shit and showed us a variety of real world benchmarks.
>>54955189
Why is this so hard to figure out?
36CU, a little IPC uplift, and higher clocks
vs
40/44cu, already well known ipc, and clocks of 1000mhz/1050mhz
The RX 480 is about on par with the R9 390/390X. There is no huge mystery to how it performs here. Its entry level VR performance at a low TDP and reasonable price. The GTX 970 and R9 390 are considered the minimum for VR gaming.
>AMDrones believe their company has better motives than Nvidia and that's why they support open standards and stuff
>their drivers are shit for Linux, an actual open standard unlike Windows
I'm going to have to stick with Nvidia until AMDs support for open standards is more than, "we're too poor to support proprietary standards and are riddled with poor decision making at every level of management".
>>54940524
That's not how it works. The 51% number means that dual card performance scales to 51% more performance than a single card. So two 480s in AotS got 151% the performance of a single 480. Except AMD clarified that they were wrong (or are hiding acting maliciously to make their single card performance look better) and it was 83%. Also it was not crossfire, it was the games own dual video card support through dx12. Crossfire will result in worse scaling than 1.83x of a single card.
>>54955236
>hey guys look what i just pulled out of my ass
fuck off already you autistic retard. your 'math' based on unconfirmed specs are useless and your speculation is uninformed at best because you're uneducated.
>>54955238
>Crossfire will result in worse scaling than 1.83x of a single card.
Crossfire or not, it's still multicarding.
I've given up on explaining why AMD's dumb graph is stupid, since I'd have to keep explaining, over and over again, until it comes out.
Oh wait now I remember; I saved a post I made:
First you need to understand what DX12 does to multicard setups.
DX12 enables mulitcard setups to work at nearly 100% efficiency: IE, 2 cards = 200% performance.
If you play anything but Ashes of the singularity (The only DX12 game that exists) then 2 cards = 130% performance.
IE the cost effectiveness of the cards fucking nosedives outside of that SINGLE GAME.
It's a highly cherrypicked (IE it's a single game rather than an aggregate of multiple games) special case (DX12) benchmark, AND on top of this is the 'fudge factor' of official nvidia/AMD slides which is an extra +20% on top.
Remember AMD's fury X slides showing it beating the titan X? This is the same shit.
This graph is a magical combination of 'official benchmark shit' (IE exaggerations from the company themselves), and a cherry picked special case.
That said, the 480 is looking pretty fucking good even accounting for these fudge factors, but it's not nearly as good as AMD is claiming.
>>54955243
>I'm a shit eating child
There is no math there, retard. AMD literally put a slide up on screen and one of the only bullet points on it was 36CU.
The Hawaii/Grenada die has 44CU, and the binned versions feature 40CU.
Tech illiterate children need to stay in /v/.
>>54955264
who are you quoting
>>54955236
Disappointing desu.
>Why is this so hard to figure out?
Wishful thinking I guess.
>>54955264
>AMD literally put a slide up on screen and one of the only bullet points on it was 36CU.
>their slides are bullshit
>but i'll believe their slides, even though they're subject to change at any given time
>>54955277
Its a mid range GPU that provides mid range performance. Polaris 11 based GPUs are entry level. Vega GPUs are high end.
>>54955286
>hurr durr
>I'm totally not shitposting because I made an ass of myself and don't have any ground to stand on
>>54943557
The reference 1080 is ever so slightly cooler than the 980ti while being faster than it. I'll admit Pascal probably isn't as efficient as it should be given the die shrink, but come on, the house fire meme came about when cards ran at 105c, not 82c.
>>54955256
everything in your post is entirely wrong.
>>54955463
Except all of it
Eat shit
>>54955479
I absolutely love how you put the exact same amount of effort and reason into your posts as whoever you're replying to.
>>54955256
>If you play anything but Ashes of the singularity (The only DX12 game that exists) then 2 cards = 130% performance.
how you can shit post something so wrong yet also so easily verifiable in thread after thread is amazing.
>>54938286
fucking indiand pooinloo cocksucking maggot.
video where he drops his card on the ground, goddamn unwashed faggot
why cannot hey find a better presenter. Same goes to nvidia, also shit tier ceo and presenter.
>>54955256
>>54955546
>video where he drops his card on the ground
It's a recurring LTT joke.
>>54940621
they both suck, hard to tell which is worse
>>54940819
in second deus ex (shit game i know) therre was a subplot about two competitive coffee companies. One was a all natural and the other was super synthetic. In the end it turns out they were ownedby same company.
Illuminati owns Nvidia and AMD to cater for poorfags and elitists at the same time.
>>54955608
>Intel owns Nvidia and AMD
FTFY
>>54955562
I know, but he's still abominable
>its over x is finished
Does /g/ actually want a monopoly to fuck them in their boypussy
>>54955624
Oh, no doubt. I hate shitskins as much as anyone else here.
>>54938286
>$199
I'm so fucking happy
>>54955630
>implying this shadow monopoly is in any way better
Nvidia can charge whatever they want and they know it.
>>54955463
How?
>>54955630
Nvidia's marketing is so good they don't need a monopoly to get away with acting like one.
>>54955669
Crossfire and SLI scaling is routinely north of 50%, a few titles even reach 90% which is somewhat astounding.
The anon saying it only touches 30% is talking out of his ass. Hes making everything up. All of it.
Where is Polaris 11?
>>54955718
Apple has a few engineering samples if I remember correctly.
>>54955662
>>54955662
Imagine if monopolies were to be a good thing.
I have the only lemonade stand in whole town. My price is good, my lemonade is great. People flock to my stand, even at 10% margin I do good.
Then Rasheed comes along. Sets up a stand next block. Sells a bit watered down version at lesser price. At start I ignore him, but when more and more poorfags are lining up to his stand, while my profit drops - I need to compete.
In the end of it all my lemonade got shittier, I do not have as much time to perfect my ingredient formula, and Rasheed is still there selling his wateed down shit.
Also how much money goes into marketing whereas if you had a monopoly there would be no use for marketing.
If coke vs pepsi would simultaneously drop their billion dollar advertisement costs, we would get cheaper or better products from both companies. Ad companies are a waste of space and money.
>>54955868
If there was a monopoly, they would drop the advertising and raise the price.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility/
>In the simplest terms AMD has created a product that runs hotter and slower than its competition's new architecture by a potentially significant margin.
IT'S OVER, AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
>>54955868
fuck off, you wouldn't have any google botnet free services that basically killed off GPS jews and actually made a non-shit alternative to the Iphone. None of which would be possible without ad revenue.
>>54955926
It's funny because AMDumbs think that by having low prices it means AMD has won. With those laughable margins the only think that AMD won is the race to the bottom.
>>54956004
Its keep seeing tech illiterate retards this desperate.
Samsung has been mass producing 14nm parts since the end of 2014. We're now heading into Q2 2016, and GloFo Fab8 has 1:1 parity with Samsung's 14nm lines.
The yields on their parts are solid, and cost per transistor is lower than 28nm HPP. AMD is selling the RX 480 because they can afford to.
14nm LPP is literally going to be the commodity node for all high volume chips, even those like Allwinner and Rock Chip SoCs because the metrics favor it. Samsung even developed a 3rd variant of the process with a smaller BEOL to further push on area scaling and fit more candidates per wafer. 14nm LPP is a mature process.
>>54956058
>they can afford to
They're losing revenue per card to try to claw back some market share. They price it like that not because they want to, they have to otherwise it wouldn't be competitive.
>>54938286
Can't wait for DX12, bois. Rip Nvidia
>>54938286
You forgot the cute anime mascot.
I'd buy one just for the mascot.
>>54956190
Reminder that AMD is #1 for doki doki computing!
Zen debuts when again?
>>54956280
The Zen core arch is being detailed in depth at HotChips on August 23.
Zen based Summit Ridge is releasing end of the year. Internal slide deck from earlier in the year pointed to October. Su at Computex stated something about sampling to OEMs in Q3 with Q4 availability.
>just now remembering all those spastics a couple months ago saying that no Zen chips had taped out yet
>engineering samples were hovering around months ago
>board manufacturers have already got their hands on samples
>Computex presentations were rendered on Summit Ridge systems, and they had systems at the show running final silicon
>>54938286
Will POO IN LOO make GPUs great again?
Only 199 $? Are you kidding me?
>>54940912
I need to get a bigger house if I want to have a 4k monitor. a 1080p one is already a sketch
With the 1070 probably going to be close to 400, I wonder if I should just buy 2 Rx 480
>>54956212
>tfw zen is competitive with haswell-e
>but by the time it comes out it'll be against skylake-e
They just don't have the performance and it breaks my kokoro.
>>54956600
Nah, SLI and xfire are kinda shit. Microstutter is a bitch.
>>54938489
>VR
I often see that card in-reference to VR. Does that mean the card specializes in functions useful for rendering for VR, or is VR just GPU-intensive, and it's considered good for it because the card is beefy?
Or in other words, is the card good for gaymen in general, and not just VR?
>>54956600
If you play dx12 games primarily/are a huge Ashes of the Singularity fan it'll be worth it. The dual GPU support in dx12 is much better than SLI or Crossfire, so in non dx12 games that are really twitchy, you might be better off only using a single card because of the micro stutter and stuff.
>>54941084
im one of the 10% then who has a 1080.
>>54956600
Multicarding in DX11 is awful.
>>54940751
Fuck my tits that's amazing
>>54956655
"VR" in reference to GPUs generally just means it has high performance. You need to hit ~90 fps on two screens to get a good experience with VR, so even with reduced settings it takes a pretty beefy GPU to hit the mark. 390 or 970 is the minimum recommended by Oculus.
>>54956659
>dx12 games
When you put an 's' on the end of a noun, it means that there are more than one of that item.
There is only one dx12 game. It is called Ashes of the Singularity.
And it's a fairly mediocre total annihilation clone.
>>54938286
God, this reminds me of why I love the tech industry so much. The lack of asphyxiating, anti-consumer and anti-competition "legislation" really does make it one of the most quickly-moving and innovative industries.
I wish people would see the correlation between over/hyper-regulation and the effect it has on innovation-vs-stagnation.
>>54956690
>wccftech
I see you haven't been on /g/ more than a week
wccftech is THE MOST UNRELIABLE TECH NEWS SITE
They make the daily mail look reliable
https://youtu.be/PJ5wYVu-tM8
A really good review of the details AMD have given out thus far. The guy knows his stuff
>>54956632
Skylake-E isn't going to be out any time soon. Summit Ridge will be in market at the same time as the much more expensive Broadwell-E.
>>54956712
Yeah but look how many page views they must be getting by telling people what they want to hear.
>>54943614
Wouldn't that imply the 290x's price also lowering?
>>54955868
>it's a food analogy episode
