I do not claim to be an expert on GPUs, I just want to know if I'm on the right track here.
Using pic related as my data source (the 1080p numbers specifically), the gtx 960 has ~66% the power of the gtx 970 (44.9 fps/68.3 fps = 0.657). The 960 launched for $199, while the 970 launched for $329, so that means the 960 has 60% the price of the 970.
If the 1070 and 1060 have the same ratio of price and performance relative to each other that the 970 and 960 did, then the 1060 will have 60% the price of the 1070 and 66% of its performance. 66% of the 1070's 111.9 fps average is 73.8 fps, and it would cost 60% of the price of the 1070, so $227.60 for the base MSRP and $269.40 for the "Founders Edition" bullshit.
So if the RX 480 holds up to AMD's claims of being between an R9 390 and a gtx 980, then the 8gb version of the RX 480 has a very slightly better price/performance ratio of my estimate for the 1060's price and performance. All Nvidia has to do is price the 1060 at less than $230 and keep the performance on par with a gtx 980 or better and it will beat the RX 480 in price/performance.
For the 1050 using the same method, it would have 48% of the price of the 1070 ($184.31 MSRP), and 58% of the performance. Assuming the 4gb 480 is on par with an R9 390, then the 1050 has 85% the performance and 93% the price. Nvidia would need to price the 1050 at $170 or less (which isn't too far fetched, the 950 launched for $160) to have a better price/performance than the 480, but that might not be the comparison people are making because there might be an RX 470.
How likely is it that Nvidia actually responds to competition and prices the 1060 and 1050 competitively? I mean looking at the Steam hardware survey, they sure do sell a lot more cards in the 970 or below range than they do higher end cards, and Nvidia can probably afford to take lower profit margins in order to maintain their huge market share.
>>54922688
Nvidia will win in the long run because they are showing billions into R&D while AMD is doing nothing. Plus, the new Nvidia line is energy efficient that's also a thing, meaning you can now show 1000 line in Laptops and still have a decent battery life.
>>54922688
>If the 1070 and 1060 have the same ratio
big if
actually your whole post is a big if
like you say all we can do is wait and see if nvidia responds to the price/performance of the 480
they didn't respond to the 390
>>54922736
>actually your whole post is a big if
Well duh. I mainly just did this to see if the 480 was truly a revolution in GPUs or if it was more in line with where the 1060, and incremental update, should fall. Personally, I think they'll probably give the 1060 6gb vram and charge like $220 for it to just barely edge out the 480.
>>54922688
>if
all we can really do is wait until October to see who comes out on top.
Just wait for the GTX1060 before buying a 480, are you people fucking retarded or what.
All you have now are shady benchmarks from AMD, wait for third party benchmarks, hell even those guys that upload benchmark performance on youtube like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7eG2lEgfTI are more reliable that tons of websites.
In the end you want a GPU for playing videogames.
>>54922736
They don't need to respond to what AMD do. History has shown time and again that Nvidia have a loyal customer base who will buy their cards even when they're inferior to AMD's offering at the same price point. Thermi was an unmitigated disaster on every level, yet they still sold plenty of them.
>>54922766
>Just wait
No. If the 480 is a good card that performs like AMD say it does for $200, I'm going to buy one. There's no reason to wait months for the 1060 to arrive if the 480 is a great card in its own right. Nvidia are extremely unlikely to offer anything better for that money. They literally never have.
>>54922806
Then do whatever the fuck you want and stop posting about it on /g/ and fuck off back to >>>/v/ you brand loyalist fanboy.
>>54922806
well yeah you're right they don't need to
they have an enviable by many company's standards stable of fanboys
and I agree with you on the 480 especially as my 780 gets fucked by driver updates but I don't plan on making any purchases for a while
>>54922806
>Nvidia are extremely unlikely to offer anything better for that money. They literally never have.
8800gt? GTX 460? It has been a while but I wouldn't say "never."
>>54922765
I think my if is fairly reasonable though, if historical trends continue they way they have. The ratio of performance between the 1070 and 1080 is very close to the ratio of performance between the 970 and 980. Same with the launch price of the 970 and 980 compared to the launch price of the 1070 and 1080 (using MSRP, not the founders edition, the ratio for the founders edition is a bit higher). I would not make a purchasing decision off my speculation though, who knows what could happen/if trends are broken.
>>54922820
Have you been on any of the threads about PC hardware on /v/? It's laughable how little people know. You can't have a serious discussion about this stuff on /v/.
Do you think stuff like Nvidia's investment into hairworks and other taxing graphical features will start to pay off now? I mean even the budget cards this generation can max out games at 1080p 60fps. There's a lot more power that can be used now, will things like hairworks start to become ubiquitous now?
As someone said, nvidia doesn't need to have the best price/performance card. Their market share will simply drown anything AMD has. Even if AMD's 480 is the best objective price/performance card, 3/4 of the GPU users are nvidia owners and will deny this as a matter of fact. They will claim 1070 is the best price/performance or 1080. Some of those cards are already getting 10/10 or "perfect" reviews, even when founders edition are riddled with issues.
When the people see no alternative, the only option they get is the best one in their eye.
>>54924221
Well yes, but the 1060 most likely being so close in price/performance to the 480 doesn't hurt either.
Wait for the benchmarks.
But I have a feeling the 480 will grossly outpace the 1060. I wouldn't be surprised if nvidia ships a 2gb 1060 to match price with the 480.
