http://videocardz.com/amd/radeon-rx-400/radeon-rx-490
>9.8 TFLOPS
>16GB of HBM
>716 GB/s bandwith
>200watt TDP
where were you when nvidia was kill?
This supposed to be some of that Vega shit?
>>54895986
And that's not even their next Fury. Wew.
>>54896030
Yes, it's the 490 aka Vega™ launching in October.
>>54895986
that is crazy is the playable FPS 4k video card @60FPS video now?
wew lad.
Why is AMD spending so much money shilling on /g/?
>>54896048
There won't be another Fury. That whole thing was a massive bust.
>>54896458
The same reason you're being paid to bump dead threads to talk trash about them. Shilling works.
>Housefire, the card
Lol.
>>54896458
Pajeets work for cheap
>>54896473
>200W TDP
>housefire
Smells pretty fucking casual in here.
nvidia cards confirmed for paperweights
>>54895986
that can't be right, only 200W peak? Is it going to be a single 8-pin?
Memory Size
16384 MB HBM2
Memory Bus Width
4096-bit
Memory Bandwidth
716.8 GB/s
How at only 200W
>>54895986
>http://videocardz.com/amd/radeon-rx-400/radeon-rx-490
>Memory Clock (Effective)
350 (1400) MHz
>HBM
>Memory Clock (Effective)
350 (1400) MHz
These sites are just ran by retards. HBM does not signal like GDDR5, the DRAM slices are literally the same as desktop RAM. 1000mhz HBM on the Fiji package has a true clock of 500mhz, its plain double data rate.
>>54895986
>>200watt TDP
House fires.
>>54895986
>http://videocardz.com/amd/radeon-rx-400/radeon-rx-490
this should cost $600 +++ ??
Can't wait to pair this beast with an 8 core Zen.
Fucking AMD is going to dominate.
>TDP 200W
>almost 10 TFLOPS
>16GB HBM2
>4096-bit
Nvidia must be sweating hard
>>54896556
200w is TDP, tdp is not consumption, but close enough because its mainly a number given by internal test.
>>54896573
people here still think that DDR3-1600 and DDR4-3200 run at 1600 MHz and 3200 MHz respectively.
Stop worrying about it, just accept that most people are idiots.
>>54896604
Probably 400-450 USD
>>54895986
wew lad
how many shekels?
dual gpu or single
if single this is the greatest thing ever made
>>54896619
Looks like it will compete with 1080 @ only $149 USD
You heard it here first. AMD will compete with 1080 at $149.
>>54896473
That would be 1080 foundry edition
>>54895986
If this is accurate, AMD confirmed for eternally based
>>54896556
HBM interface uses less power than a GDDR5 interface.
RX 480 has a 150w rating with 36CU, and I think its a binned version of a GPU that Apple gets the best of like with Tonga. Better binning, less power used by the memory interface, and its easy to see how a 64CU card could be 200-250w. Its what everyone expected from the beginning.
>>54896650
>$149
Stop memeing, I would have believed $349 but you got greedy.
>>54895986
I'll believe it the very minute it's actually confirmed.
>>54896717
the rx 480 is using ddr5 however
you're telling me that 150w would be lower if they used hbm?
>>54896738
Yes
Also nvidiots confirmed for suicide watch btw
>>54896725
You really think this will only be $349? Jesus christ, thats just sad.
At this level I'd expect atleast $500 simply because of the tdp, ram, and memory bandwidty.
This isn't even counting the TFLOPs. At $350, this would be worth 1/2 the price it should be even when Nvidia competitor price is considered.
>>54896672
we're in Attack of the Fermi: Round 2 this gen
HBM2 is expensive at fuck, no way it's going to be cheaper than $500. Probably 600-650.
>x amd thing is gonna be awesome, just you wait!
Oh gee where have I seen this before? Oh yeah, I've seen it in the releases of:
>bulldozer in charge of being good
>vishera in charge of fixing bulldozer's mess
>r9 3xx series in charge of not being rebrands
>fury in charge of being good
>hbm meme in charge of changing fuckall
>apus in charge of being non-bottom of the barrel tier trash
>the "overclocker's dream" in charge of overclocking at all
>mantle in charge of being a standard like 2 years ago
>polaris in charge of not being low-mid end shit
But yeah, I'm sure they're totally going to deliver on the overreaching promises this time. Just you wait, any day now!
>>54895986
Gonna get a 480.
How long can I max games at 1080p?
My reference gtx 660 is showing some wear and tear, constantly hitting 93c even after clean/new thermal, playing medium overwatch
>>54896756
I went off what the previous x90s cost, pls no bully
>>54896787
>How long can I max games at 1080p?
For 13 minutes and 57.21 seconds right after purchase.
>>54896763
stare? so just looking at the sky makes the card reach 83? why?
or am I ignorant to this benchmark technique?
>>54896792
Thanks for headsup
>>54896458
>Why is AMD spending so much money shilling on /g/?
AMD employs over 1,000 indians through the H1B program. since employees can't quit the job without leaving the country they can easily be forced into doing things like shilling in their 'free' time.
>>54896787
>reference gtx 660
>reference
why would you do this whether you're amd or nvidia DO NOT FUCKING GET REFERENCE UNLESS YOU'RE WILLING TO RIP OUT THE BLOWER AND STICK YOUR OWN COOLING SOLUTION ON IT
>>54896473
>Can't adequately cool hbm
>Let's use hbm 2!
>20 minutes of gaymin
>Hbm2 memory stack heats to the temp of the sun and burns a hole to the centre of the earth.
Good job AMD
>>54896867
on top of that you get the reference PCB which usually has shitty components and some of the power phases removed, which means shorter lifespan.
>>54896867
I only call it reference because blower.
Its a evga sc.
I like minimal design. Single fan and block style. The polaris cards look perfect.
However, the new nvdia reference designs are garbage. Why is anyone still into the angular gaming edgy rgb designs?
>>54895986
If anything this is what everyone is speculating from Vega. At least 4098 stream processors and at least 8GB of HBM2 with a price starting at $600 since HBM2 isn't ready for mainstream. Am I hype? Sure. I want a card that can handle 1440p at 120Hz comfortably. Let's see how Nvidia responds with their meme Titan hopefully this year.
![14-126-007-08[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YKCalhz.jpg "14-126-007-08[1].jpg")
>>54896916
cont.
Some custom cards are 'okay', like pic related.
>AMD can't even into VR
>>54896738
Yes, HBM is just prohibitively expensive so its only being used for high end high profit margin parts.
>>54895986
>videocardz.com
>>54896806
apparently it renders some really fucking pretty clouds or something.
>>54896951
>>AMD can't even into VR
>turns out amd is better at vr
Oh shit waddup
>>54896951
why is jackie chan missing his left arm
did it get amputated
>>54897221
There was an accident involving a baby and a ladder factory.
>>54896614
?????
they don't?
>>54896782
Half of that was true though, Vishera did fix alot of what was wrong with Bulldozer combined with price drops. The FX 8320 was the go to CPU on mid range systems for several years and I can vouch it served me well from 2012 until when I replaced it this year with a 4790k. And most of them overclock well. The Fury is a good card and if they drop prices will be fantastic.
I think AMD also realized that APUs need to complement enthusiast CPUs, not try to supercede them. You'll notice APU launch for Zen is 2nd fiddle to the enthusiast part.
I hope they pull it off, Intel is both getting apathetic with its releases, too cozy with the government, and has a draconian sense of entitlement where it's ordered 3rd party vendors to sabotage their own motherboard BIOS to prevent non-K overclocking or else Intel would restrict business with them
Honestly not a fanboi, just want a return of innovation
>>54896947
Those are fucking sexy, too bad their notorious for having no overclocking due to being a low power single 6 pin model
How much money do I need to start a graphics card company that can compete with AMD and nVidia?
>>54895986
>16GB of HBM
Hope you mean HBM2 because HBM is limited to 4GB
Oh boy.
I'm going to fly high with that AMD
I really hope it's an October release
Fuck Nvidia for charging $700 for the 1080
Currently have a 5 year old i5 2500k pc with a 780 in it. Next machine will be an AMD box. Looking forward to milking all that juicy price to performance ratio.
>>54897325
Summit Ridge is the counterpart to intel's i7 Extreme line of processors.
Raven Ridge is the counterpart to the mainstream Core i processors. It'll face up against i3s, i5s, and mainstream i7s.
APUs are the mainstream now. Summit Ridge for HEDT is a halo product exactly like the new 10 core Broadwell-E family.
>>54896782
>i-it's gonna be different this time!
No but seriously, they have to make a big hit to stay relevant.
>>54897371
AMD has a market cap of $3.16 billion, so probably something in that range at the very least.
>>54897557
Just hide all threads talking about the new GPUs for the next six months. It's normally bad but it feels extra awful this year.
>>54896871
>pcie slot taken up by leads that feed out to a temperature controlled cooling unit housing the graphics card
>power required to cool hbm2 not calculated into figures
>actually costs the same as running your oven open 24/7
>>54897555
you're already milking it, you're on a fucking godly sandy bridge
>>54896871
Tech illiteracy is rampant on /g/, but even Nvidiots like you should know that HBM uses less power than conventional memory.
>>54897639
>die shrink from 28nm to 14 (AMD) and 16 (Nvidia)
>last die shrink was half a decade ago
Gee I wonder why fucktard
>>54898123
That's why HBM cards come with factory water cooling, right?
>>54898153
2x perf/watt compared to Hawaii you tech illiterate mongrel
>>54898153
You are definitely retarded.
Is this the harpoon that is supposed to kill the 1080 (and make Nvidia release the 1080 Ti so I can finally buy one)
>>54896725
What does making up a price have to do with passing on ideas and concepts that evolve?
>>54896871
>I don't know how thermodynamics works, but I'll pretend I do and give my shitty opinion anyways
>>54895986
Ironically Nvidia probably leaked this to kill 480 sales because they know cheapskate AMD buyers are also chronic waitfags.
>>54898815
What is a joke? Fuck this board is full of angry little neets. Honestly, this card does look pretty good.
All I want is double the performance of my 290x for about $500 mcdollarorydoos
>>54899079
Nvidia is for you. AMD doesn't have any higher end cards like that.
>>54896458
Cheaper than developing drivers beyond a installer GUI change every 3 years.
>>54898997
Nigga what the actual fuck are you even trying to say? People looking at the RX 480 aren't going to wait several months for a high end/enthusiast GPU.
>>54899247
You are underestimating Team Red. They the newest and greatest of whatever AMD sells and if a much better card is months away they'll wait for that.
>>54899273
Why wait when two 480s match a gtx 1080 now?
Also this is without decent drivers.
>>54899304
>multi GPU ever
I cringe everytime you guys brought out the 295x or the 7990 back then. It's always a bad idea, get one good GPU and leave it at that. Vega or the cut down Titan is that GPU.
>>54896084
it's launching in 2017 according to every source on the planet and AMDs roadmap. It'll probably be competing with the 1080Ti so chill out $hillbro
>>54896806
the sun is hot you retard
>>54898153
>amdrones
Absolute wow
>>54899711
underrated.
>>54897325
>Vishera did fix alot of what was wrong with Bulldozer
Oh yeah it totally did. That sweet barely 10% IPC improvement from something that had half the IPC of any intel cpu surely was the shit, just like a polished turd.
>>54899711
well fuck.
>>54898153
Dude leave you're making us look bad. The Nano is HBM and has no water cooling.
people here are actually gonna wait until 2017 for a 1070/80 alternative
you do know by that time AMD will have to compete with the 1080ti?
>>54900799
Lol no. I'm getting a 1070 now. Even thought my 980 is a brilliant card for fully maxed out 1080p and high settings in 1440p 45-60 fps, I want to get a 144hz 1440p screen and the 1070 looks like the card I need. I be giving my 980 to a friend in need anyway.
>>54900913
>144hz 1440p screen
>1070
Not even the 1080 can run it at its full refresh rate my nigga. I'd wait for the 1080Ti or Greenland if I were you.
>>54900799
I think there are two Vega chips: one to replace Fiji and the other to replce Hawaii.
>>54896782
>polaris in charge of not being low-mid end shit
But Polaris is supposed to be low-mid end you retard
>>54895986
Fury X was 8.6TFLOPS.
So, basically its a little better than FuryX for more power draw than the 1080? The only thing it could have going for it is price and HBM.
>>54899079
sli 480
>>54901314
Theoretical compute power has nothing to do with performance. 4th gen GCN has a huge IPC uplift over 3rd gen.
>>54901839
And so you think, for amazing marketing abilities, that they would decrease their relative FLOP rating generation-over-generation? The one spec they put up on marketing slides to impress people? Guess we'll have to wait and see.
>>54901891
Do you even understand any of the words you just vomited up onto my screen?
FLOPS = shaders x clock x ops per clock
It is not directly indicative of performance in anyway because the actual performance per shader is not a factor. Its an entirely theoretical metric.
>>54896947
Tried that gtx960 Turbo shit for a friend's build and so far its been a nice card.
The fan was set too low tho only maxing out at like 40-50% when the card was at 70-80deg C so I had to reprofile the fan curve to a higher 70% max which brought temps down below 60 deg C.
>>54901910
Yes, agreed on the definition of a FLOP. That's not what I'm getting at. If the FLOP numbers were misleading in an underwhelming fashion as a result of differences in shader performance being superior to the previous gen why would they be showing off FLOP numbers as their main spec in marketing material?
We'll just have to wait and see if 4th gen GCN is really as good as you claim since this would not be the first time that AMD talks big and yet under-performs.
>>54902037
Everyone advertises max theoretical memory bandwidth despite very rarely being able to reach it. Marketing bullet points are just numbers for the uninformed to latch on to, no different from car badges.
Take your stupid tripcode and just get off of this board for good.
>>54902064
It seems that we're back where we started then, since FLOPS only give a vague idea of performance, and you have nothing more concrete until the thing launches.
Also, you're going to have to filter me if other people's opinions harm you that much.
>>54902037
We all know amd will underperform. Don't reply back to these half wit amd fanboys.
>>54896471
Looking at the die size this cant be vega. Fury line has huge dies. If I remember right vega was around 350mm2 just like the pascal die and as we know it will completely tear nvidia into pieces because it will cost around 400-450. The 390x die was 438mm2 and still sold for 400, the 14nm die is much smaller and cheaper and probably amd looked that they can put tons of hbm on it because they saved production costs.
>>54900799
480x will lanuch soon and will be equivelent to a 1070 and the 490/490x will be out by october you retarded shill.
now fuck off back to /v/
>>>/v/
>>54902295
how can it not be vega? you even yourself say that the 14nm die is much smaller
i mean there's nothing else it can be, however this is not their vega flagship because iirc that had like 6k+ cores
I think it will be an amazing card, I will buy it on release
>>54904476
I agree
>>54897387
Nah, the only thing that limited HBM to 4GB was the size of the interposer.
A new interposer design could use 8 stacks (not that anybody would do this).
But yeah, obviously he meant HBM2.
>>54895986
>>16GB of HBM
What happened to HBM2?
>>54896763
I don't get it.
Have you people ever owned a 4k monitor and high end card like 1080 or Titan X? I've had two of both (2x Titan X, 2x1080) and they've always ran hot at 4K when everything is maxed.
What do you expect with a fucking fan blower?
>>54895986
>1080
>struggles to beat fury x in DX12
>>54904942
>DX12
The only thing that interests me is Vulkan.
>>54904942
>1080P
LOL
>>54904942
wtf, how come cpu bottlenecks so much. never would have thought that
>>54904971
And do tell us what is wrong with DX12? Like it or not it is going to be defacto choice of future games.
>>54905005
Do you know what kind of game Total War is? Google it up.
>>54905014
Not avaiable on my OS. Not avaiable on any botnet/ad/spyware free OS. And no DX11 will be avaiable at least until 2020, as DX10 fallback has been avaiable to most modern AAA titles.
I really hope Vega can compete the upcoming GP102, HBM2 is a huge bonus point for my consideration. GDDR is shit for 4K.
>>54905069
>Not avaiable on any botnet/ad/spyware free OS
Sure hope you are using old hardware from early 00s that doesn't have backdoors in them.
Fucking psychos and hypocrites
>>54905121
Fucking Microshit dick takers.
>>54905135
Sorry I called you out on your hypocrisy fucking retard.
>>54905069
And your opinion is discarded. Thanks, I can filter your shit.
Uhhh.. let me get this straight so ur saying that 490 is better than 1080.. 1080 is 590 more than 490. that's more than double. 490 x 2 = 980. 490 is only as powerful at the gtx 980? it's poop then. nvidia always wins
You guys got a viable alternative to CUDA yet?
No?
Fuck off with your gaymer trash.
>>54905304
>>54905304
ATi still reigns supreme with their venerable Radeon 9100!
>>54905304
Just checked the math, this adds up.
>>54896947
I have the 970 version of this card. The fan whines like a little bitch.
>>54904887
OP meant HBM2. It's clearly shown in the specifications.
Holy shit nvidia is so fucked
how viable is crossfire?
2x 480 seem like a good deal if those first benchmarks are real.
Nvidia shills on suicide watch
>>54904911
PLEASE RESPOND
>>54906631
Other than slightly higher power consumption, it shouldn't be an issue. Crossfire has always been better at scaling than sli.
>>54906631
Depends how well it will work and how game developers will support it.
>>54896871
wat are you even talking about i have an aircooled r9fury
>>54906631
Microstutter is a bitch. Multi GPU is a shit meme.
>>54906631
Surprisingly viable, although not many games support it. It should be noted that the game they showed was in DX12, which skips crossfire altogether in favor of native dual GPU support.
>>54906724
>which skips crossfire altogether in favor of native dual GPU support.
Which requires game developers to use it.
>>54895986
videocardz is literally fucking garbage, they just shit out whatever they feel like
>>54906731
It does, but if you're working in DX12 it is much less work to implement it than crossfire.
>there is and always will be a dearth of multi-gpu games
>>54906631
Any kind of multi GPU setup is retarded.
>>54896440
4k is fine with a single fury x/ 980 ti for almost every game
>i have one and a 32" 4k pls freesync samsung
>>54909146
Well you can get 4K if you turn down AA as it's not needed so much at 4K.
>>54895986
>they even have 1050 specs
Wow. These guys are psychic I suppose.
>>54909043
As a furry I find this horrifying.
the fuck is a teraflop?
>>54909220
10^12 floating point operations per second.
>>54895986
>click on 1080TI
>12 Terflops
I mean at this point I'm pretty sure this is just some kids website and the little shit is typing whatever comes to his mind. I used to do that when I was 12 as well.
>the Pentium 3 will have 8 Megahurtz and an FSB speed of 150
And then I 'd draw it as a big massive porcelain bright red chip.
>>54909146
>>54909176
aye, this whole CRANK EVERYTHING UP TO ULTRA testing method is stupid anyway. sometimes you can increase fps by 20% just by turning down some retarded effect that barely makes any visual difference.
you can already play a lot of games in 4k with optimized settings.
>>54909275
you would've made a great journalist, mane.
>>54905331
>what is OpenCL
Cuck
>>54906749
Just like ur mom then.
>>54896787
>1080p
For 4-5 years, if you are aiming at 60 FPS. If aiming for 144, not using prohibitive AA settings and tesselation should do it fine.
>>54898153
The Fury and the Nano have the same memory and are aircooled. Shut up retard.
>>54900121
>That sweet barely 10% IPC improvement
But Intel CPUs getting 5% IPC improvement each generation is considered a huge gain, right?
>>54909398
A meme framework no one uses.
>>54909652
Wow you AMDrones are going after Intel now?
LMAO.
>>54896614
Please explain senpai. You mean they perform slightly less than stated or are we talking crazy amounts off?
>>54897259
>>54909965
3 seconds in wikipedia would tell you they're running at half that and it will even tell you why.
>>54909865
>going after
>not realizing that this statement is true
>ipc gain for Intel is actually in the 5-15% every time
>>54905258
>not filtering all tripcode faggots
Come on, it's like you want to listen to their retardation
>>54909652
Uhhhh
No it isn't. Who told you that was considered a huge gain ?
>>54910483
Tomshardware, Anandtech and TPU to name a few.
Since when do people actually care about tdp.
When did that stop being a meme.
>>54910629
>Since when do people actually care about tdp.
Nobody did until Nvidia said TDP was important with maxwell.
>>54910687
>maxwell
Kepler.
>>54910841
After they got completely btfo with Thermi in anything related to heat or power
>>54910841
Kepler is fairly close to hawaii for power draw - it really was maxwell where Nvidia started pushing as power draw as an important stat for high end gpus (which it isn't).
>>54910841
This. Fermi was an embarrassment, they needed to save face.
>>54895986
AMD will never rise.
Nvidia fags are always Nvidia fags.
No matter how good the AMD card is, they'll go and buy from the Jews.
>>54895986
>only 64 ROPs running at 1.2GHz
ugh, guess we'll have to wait until next-gen for true 4K gaming
>>54895986
>http://videocardz.com/
>>54912340
Take a good hard look at those specs. If you can't see why they're bullshit then you don't belong here.
>>54899007
>Heavily shitposting
>Gets called out on it
>OMG u guyz lrn 2 take a joke y u mad bro
Fuck off m8
These are supposed to be specs for Vega, not polaris.
AMD probably can't be saved. Nvidiots are too dumb to even consider buying an AMD card, no matter how good it is. They're much like Applefags
>>54913746
this thh senpai
They'll just choose nvidia for the "expertise"
I'm quoting a friend that told me a 970 was a great GPU and that the 390X was shit.
>>54904942
Damn it feels good
>>54896473
under 150W TDP
>Hause fuhrer
this fuggen ghuyyyyyyyy
>>54897259
If you have ever entered the bios to overclock you would know that
>>54902991
Completely unrelated, but is it worth buying the 480 when the 490 is coming out not much long after?
>>54905333
What about the Radeon X1950?
>>54896672
GTX 1080 HOTWHEELS EDITION
>>54919042
if you can/want to waitfag then wait
dont have anything to lose
>>54909398
>what is OpenCL
That's a damn good question. What the fuck is OpenCL?
>>54919042
>490 is coming out not much long after
considering it was supposed to come out 2017 and we only have some rumors about it getting moved to october, you'll have to wait 4-5 months longer if you're lucky.
once it's out, nvidia will leak some info on the 1080ti and the waiting game starts again.
>>54896084
>>54899543
it would be smart to launch in october to match nvidia now
>>54922850
Launching in October would align it with the launch of Summit Ridge. AMD would have a whole system platform to advertise. Its a sound business move.
>>54922886
>Its a sound business move.
If they can pull off the rushed launch successfully. That's a big if. They might cut a lot of corners to do that, ruining their image and people's trust in AMD to be able to launch a product.
Can we stop those "Nvidia/AMD is finished and bankrupt" threads? By my very rough calculations ( >>54922688 ), the 1060 should have almost exactly the same price/performance ratio of the 480. The advantage AMD has is launching earlier and probably heat/TDP, but that remains to be seen for sure on Nvidia's lower end cards. It's a good thing that AMD is competitive now and it's very unlikely anyone will be finished and bankrupt.
>>54897555
Keep the i5. AMD CPU's are garbage.
I know because I have an 8350. The Vapor-X 290's pretty neat however.
>>54922934
>If they can pull off the rushed launch successfully
What makes you believe it will be rushed?
>>54922997
>Vishera is bad therefore all future AMD CPUs will be bad
How's the Pentium 4?
>>54905069
I bet you wear a tin foil hat, believe that alien's are going to invade us and don't believe in global warming. Haha, what an absolute tosser...
>>54923104
Because if it was originally planned for launch after that, moving the launch date forward means they'll have to change something to get the product out the door in time. It doesn't necessarily mean the product will change, AMD could hire more employees to get more work done in the same amount of time for example, but something would definitely have to change. AMD isn't known for making good decisions, they could have their first couple batches have really shoddy build quality in order to get them out the door faster or something, we just don't know.
>>54896787
You can't.
>>54895986
All this tells me is that while Nvidia was fucking around with Hairworks aka being an asshole, AMD was getting real shit done.
>>54899543
amds roadmap says late 2016 faggot
>>54923287
Or equally yields are better than expected thus enabling the date to come forwards - thus the initial claim of the release being rushed was (at the very least) a poor choice words and an outright case of FUD at worst.
>>54923646
That's extremely unlikely if they moved the date forward because they wanted to launch earlier and not because the yields were better. You worded it like they moved it forward because they wanted to launch earlier, not because they could.
>>54910539
Tomshardware basically spit on IB and Haswell. At least don't lie so blatantly when you're trying to shill.
>>54898153
>Something is water cooled from the factory? Must be because it's shit
>Probably has a custom loop setup because chilled temps are good temps but not if it is factory
>>54924861
>Must be because it's shit
/g/ went pretty hype when a shipping manifest had a 1080 engineering sample with a clc on it. Clearly Nvidia (using the clc at the time) was doing so to offer a premium product!
The fuiry x on the hand using clc clearly meant its a housefire.
Nope, no double standard here at all.
>>54898997
>waitfag
This describes me perfectly
Bought a 280x, skipped the 290x, sailed past the 980, the 1080 almost got me before I heard about Vega
>>54925812
>buying godmachine tahiti
A balls to the wall overclocked 280x will give a 290 a run for its money.
>>54896458
Cheaper than paying for youtube celebs to shill their shit for them.
