why's everyone here a CS major? I thought CS was for pajeets? I switched out of CS because you guys told me to
>making life-changing decisions because /g/ said so
haha fucking loser
>fell for the cs is a meme meme
>>54865556
>he fell for /g/ memes
>taking ni/g/gers seriously
>>54865556
Everyone here IS Pajeet.
Haven't you noticed the Windows 10 shilling?
can't go wrong with engineering
DEGREE RATINGS:
Autstic math fag: COMPUTER ENGINEERING
Weird slow kid that thinks calculus requires smarts: COMPUTER SCIENCE
Trendy blue haired tattooed chumps: COMPUTER SCIENCE
Aryan god's interested in financial independence and raising a family of 4 kids with a beautiful wife: MANAGED INFORMATION SYSTEMS
>>54865556
Don't listen to people when they tell you to change your major. Research shit and decide for yourself.
I'm a CS major but i'm focusing on security/crypto
>>54865556
I majored in Political Science and work as a LAN admin now so major in whatever you feel like dood
>>54865677
>thinks calculus requires smarts
But it does. Most people on this Earth couldn't pass Calc II.
>>54865730
well i guess im really smart then cuz i passed that shit with an 89 without studying once
>>54865556
You're retarded
Also pajeet only programs in the latest programming language, CS is more than java and C#
>>54865556
You are mixing up CS and SE
>>54865765
>Also pajeet only programs in the latest programming language
holy shit are you retarded
>>54865838
Does Pajeet code in COBOL?
>>54865739
>i passed that shit with an 89 without studying once
Well, la di da. I passed Japanese I with a 99 without studying once. But, I guess it depends what you're good at. You're clearly adept at math, and I'm adept at language.
>>54865730
I couldn't pass pre-calc.
>>54865556
Because $.
https://www.quora.com/How-much-do-computer-science-internships-generally-pay
>>54865851
Pajeet focuses strictly on Java, C#, and C - which is why he's out making money at large companies while white nu-males resign themselves to untested meme languages like Haskell, hoping their startup's stock options will one day be worth more than the paper it's printed on.
>>54865556
Why waste 3 + years studying computer science when all you want is to program and you usually a plan - you either want to program websites or make software - if you want to make it for corporations just to earn cash you need an certificate, if you want to do it to help others and make a decent living out of it - you don't need anything but working hard, staying organized and having patience.
>>54865730
Literally this, I was stumped when I found out all my uni's calc II courses require only a 60% to get a C. When I asked why this was, the reasoning was that many people fail the course so they lowered their standards.
wait OP, its not too late
>>54865791
SE is the meme degree
>>54865910
>waste 3+ years
>having patience
what did he mean by this?
>>54865556
>I switched out of CS because you guys told me to
Haha, retard. Never listen to /g/.
>>54865556
>When CS has a 20%-33% acceptance rate at your uni
I just hope all these Chinese immigrants are inflating the numbers.
>>54865677
Calculus does requires smarts tho.
>>54866062
UW? You're fucked
>>54865677
>god's
>'s
lmao retard
>>54866062
Muh Kotori
Why is she so anxious? I'd comfort her
>>54865996
On average it is about 3 years - the amount of time you're going to spend learning various theories, and little programming while getting a computer science degree.
Having patience - because your ideas do not materialize over night - you have to write code and don't lost hype after day 1.
Posted it already in another thread.
t. Not a codemonkey.
>>54865556
Holy shit did you really switch degrees after taking advice from mouth breathers on the internet? You might as well kill yourself now, it's going to happen during your midlife crisis anyway.
>>54866160
Right side looks comfy af though, so neat and clean.
>current year
>falling for the higher education meme
>>54865556
Would you kill yourself of /g/ insisted?
I'm an Electrical Engineering major.
>>54865739
na, youre just autistic
your kind has a knack for these things.
Computer networking major is best major.
But seriously, why the fuck would you take the advice of this board, especially for a huge decision like that.
>>54866080
No
>>54865730
It's plug and chug. Practice you lazy fucker.
>>54865677
What if I am a CS+math double major?
>>54865857
>muh multiple intelligences pseudoscience
>>54865556
I majored in Economics.
I analyze web ads for a living.
>>54868054
Why didn't you get a stats or applied math degree instead?
>>54867926
>Electrical
/secret EE handshake
>he fell for the college meme
>>54868016
>I have no understanding of neuroscience or neurology
>>54868713
because he didn't want to die of starvation
>>54868016
How the fuck is that pseudoscience?
Why major in something technology related? If you have to do something you like 8 hours a day 5 days a week, you'll get tired of it pretty quickly. Why not just pick a comfier major where the job market isn't so flooded so you can still afford your hobby as a hobby?
>>54866211
>romanticizing a shitty cubicle
code monkey spotted
>>54868820
That post is 4 hours old, pajeet, you can stop projecting now.
>>54868766
>>54868782
>Intelligence tests and psychometrics have generally found high correlations between different aspects of intelligence, rather than the low correlations which Gardner's theory predicts, supporting the prevailing theory of general intelligence rather than multiple intelligences (MI).[19] The theory has been widely criticized by mainstream psychology for its lack of empirical evidence, and its dependence on subjective judgement.[20]
>Linda Gottfredson (2006) has argued that thousands of studies support the importance of intelligence quotient (IQ) in predicting school and job performance, and numerous other life outcomes. In contrast, empirical support for non-g intelligences is either lacking or very poor.[38]
>To date, there have been no published studies that offer evidence of the validity of the multiple intelligences. In 1994 Sternberg reported finding no empirical studies. In 2000 Allix reported finding no empirical validating studies, and at that time Gardner and Connell conceded that there was "little hard evidence for MI theory" (2000, p. 292). In 2004 Sternberg and Grigerenko stated that there were no validating studies for multiple intelligences, and in 2004 Gardner asserted that he would be "delighted were such evidence to accrue",[39]
>the human brain is unlikely to function via Gardner's multiple intelligences. Taken together the evidence for the intercorrelations of subskills of IQ measures, the evidence for a shared set of genes associated with mathematics, reading, and g, and the evidence for shared and overlapping "what is it?" and "where is it?" neural processing pathways, and shared neural pathways for language, music, motor skills, and emotions suggest that it is unlikely that each of Gardner's intelligences could operate "via a different set of neural mechanisms" (1999, p. 99)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_multiple_intelligences#Critical_reception
i found it difficult to pass calc2 but i have add so i cant study properly
add is no meme lads
shit sucks
>>54868766
>feelgood popsci is understanding
CS sucks. go with software engineering if you want to do actual highly-qualified programming.
>do CS because I like programming
>have to do theoretical CS
>end up really enjoying it
Everything went better than expected.
>>54869163
This desu.
Ended up double majoring in math and CS
>>54869143
my niga. SE major here, but honestly there both the same thing. Same job prospects
>do CS because I don't know fuck all what to do with my life but university is """free""" in my country
>love the programming
>hate the math
>still stick around long enough because I'm a semi-autist and hate changes so I never drop out of stuff
>now I'm doing my PhD
>>54869185
What´s exactly the difference between one and the other? It kinda looks the same to me
>>54869235
If software engineering and computer science looks the same to you, the computer science program you're looking at is pretty shit desu senpai.
>>54868769
I majored in pure math and I am making 300k a year. Kill yourself.
>>54869194
>cs phd
>hate math
Pajeet please
>>54865677
>Managed information systems
White kid who got weeded out during calc and then had to go itt tech detected
>>54869706
You forgot the picture for this meme
>>54869725
This pretty much.
I had some IS major calling CS majors stupid because all they know is programming (not really true) but he knows both programming and management. He couldn't even FizzBuzz, but apparently he made some web app once.
>>54869716
Don't need to like it to be good at it.
Also:
Experimental computer science > theoretical computer science
>>54869118
as someone who was previously diagnosed with add, you just need some fucking self discipline.
my life immediately improved when i actually picked up a hobby.
add is a lie made up to sell pills.
>>54865681
>he majored in political science
laughinggirls.jpg
You got memed on son.
Is Math the best major?
You're open to work in so many fields.
>>54869194
I dropped out of CS because I hated programming, but loved math.
>>54865730
most people on this earth don't attempt to pass calc II
>>54870029
and now you have nothing. good job, faget.
>>54870046
You're right. I don't at the moment.
I'm currently studying math/economics. Much more fun in my opinion.
CS is a shit major. People warning you away from it are trying to stop you from making the same mistakes.
Go for something like software engineering instead. Don't fail like they did. There is still time for you.
>>54870071
"""studying""", or earning a degree in?
>>54869970
>implying polisci isn't what girls study
>>54870230
>paying for college to be in the same room as girls rather than paying for college to earn a degree that will get you a job
Description: Arie de Ruiter, who in 1995 was Head of Information Technology Development at Elsevier Science, made a proposal to the STI Pub group, an informal group of publishers consisting of representatives from the American Chemical Society (ACS), American Institute of Physics (AIP), American Mathematical Society (AMS), American Physical Society (APS), Elsevier, and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE). De Ruiter encouraged the members to consider development of a series of Web fonts, which he proposed should be called the Scientific and Technical Information eXchange, or STIX, Fonts. All STI Pub member organizations enthusiastically endorsed this proposal, and the STI Pub group agreed to embark on what has become a twelve-year project. The goal of the project was to identify all alphabetic, symbolic, and other special characters used in any facet of scientific publishing and to create a set of Unicode-based fonts that would be distributed free to every scientist, student, and other interested party worldwide. The fonts would be consistent with the emerging Unicode standard, and would permit universal representation of every character. With the release of the STIX fonts, de Ruiter's vision has been realized.
>>54870248
>college is a trade school
>>54870267
Replace "degree that will get you a job" with "degree in something that actually interests you" then
Most people who sign up for CS are basement-dwelling neckbeards who spent their whole childhood in front of the computer
Their parents deluded them into thinking they're good at computers because they can hook up a printer
>>54870751
>>54870315
What if that thing is pussy?
>>54865674
engineers can't even do math
>>54871449
>paying 40k/yr for pussy
>>54871449
Then getting cucked by overweight panzerlesbian femnazis for 40k a year is not the way to go.
dumb animeNEET
>>54867926
>>54868741
based trueSTEM bros
>>54870898
Is that a cigarette I see?
>>54871449
Every single girl I know in poli sci is either a religious freak, the kind that posts Bible verses on her Facebook and goes to church every Sunday, or an SJW who is hardcore PC and probably lives on Tumblr.
Makes me worry about the country's future if these are the people going into politics. Then again, what the fuck do poli sci major do anyways?
>>54871925
You're not my dad.
>>54865556
>I switched out of CS because you guys told me to
And thanks to that my potential occupation pool is slightly larger. Thanks.
>>54870751
>Study computing at uni
>Some want to go on to CS
>Most of them very nice, friendly normies
Says the basement dweller
>Comp Sci major
>everyone think all I do is type up spreadsheets in Excel and repair people's broken computers
I rage everytime
>>54871517
For most engineers who are actually working math isn't required very much. In fact you'll hardly be using math at all.
Go ask engineers.
>>54872541
To be fair that's probably what you'll be doing once you graduate.
>>54865730
It makes a huge difference where you take it.
I placed out of 1 & 2 with AP credit so never had to take it in college and I'm glad I didn't because it's a notoriously hard weeder class that almost nobody gets an A in and many people fail. My GPA is probably higher than if I had taken it.
This is at a respected University though. I took calc 3 at my local community college while still in HS and it was a joke. I've also seen some exams from my friends schools which are lower ranked and they're objectively easier.
>bsc biology
>working at a startup
just get a stem degree. field doesn't matter if you're smart, though it does help.
>>54872602
No, those people are just dumb.
Calculus isn't hard.
>>54868812
Doing something I like => more motivated to improve my skills in it
>>54868005
>plug and chug
>proofs and definitions
Pick one
>>54872599
Nah, i got an internship with Lockheed Martin this summer. I probably won't be doing much of what ive been studying, but i won't be some computer repair guy.
>>54872647
agreed. lol @ "notoriously hard." although i fucking hate your picture, and see it around campus for people shilling their tutor services, it is correct. first year calculus is like, a couple pages of memorization tops. it takes time, sure. if you have weak a foundation in math it will seem hard, but if you study a bit every day it will come in time. it's hard for the sort of people who do not have appropriate study habits. i always found i needed to consort other materials and do work beyond what was assigned to "get it," but this is shit you should be doing in university anyways. a good thing to do is find projects where you can actually apply calculus. but really at this level, it's more important to have a grasp of the mechanics of it than any deeper insight.
>>54865666
satanic trips tell the truth
>>54873077
i will say that in many programs calculus is unnecessary. a number of my CS professors have told me they never use calc, as well, and that shit like matrix math is more relevant and useful to them. only like, 40-60% of students pass calc at my school depending on the professor. it seems like it's a scam to inflate math enrollment and $$$ for the department, but oh well. if you need the credit you'll figure it out, or switch to some other shittier major.
Hey US fags, do you have any proofs in your calculus classes?
>>54871959
They "study" politics while being too dumb to understand linear programming, game theory, statistics, stochastics or pretty much anything that would let you move your analysis beyond muh feels
>>54871752
You don't understand... that's my fetish...
>>54873141
You need calculus for probability and optimization and statistics. That's essentially AI which comes up everywhere (spam filters, search ranking, recommendations etc.)
You need calculus for image, video and audio processing (i.e. signal processing)
You need calculus for pretty much any simulations (scientific computation, physics engines)
You need calculus for queuing theory which can be used to reason quantitatively about parallel and distributed systems and that way justify your choices beyond gut feeling or experimentation
You need calculus for control systems. This has applications in programming AC units to adjust their cooling amount based on sensors, or adjusting autopilot on some sort of robot.
Besides, any math you read should improve your problem solving skills and give you new ideas about approaches to otherwise unrelated things.
However, calculus isn't directly useful to most CS before reading further math courses so it will easily appear useless to many if not most majors. Maybe the most directly useful thing is being able to reason about Big Oh using limits, and calculus also covers series which can be useful in algorithm analysis.
>>54865556
>tfw CS degree
>tfw I work with 1000s of computers
>tfw I don't code
>>54865681
>LAN admin
Mind telling me how you ended up as a LAN admin?
>>54865681
>LAN
you're screwed
everyone uses WLAN nowadays
>>54869963
But I like pills...
>>54865600
>>54865601
>>54865632
this haha
you're literally a pajeet at heart
>>54865677
i guess im the weird slow kid who thinks calculus requires smarts
in a way you're right, im socially awkward, and i come across as dumb to judgemental people
but guess who comes out on top every time when it comes down to it
>>54865556
I am doing CE in hitlercountry though
>>54878357
Holy fuck anon learn how to write more neatly, your poor professor
>>54865739
>89
mods ban retards
>graduated computer engineer here
I had a blast during school and glad I wasted 4 years for a dumb diploma. I could have learned most of the stuff in my basement if I knew it existed. Also it didn't prepare me that much for job, but employers like diplomas.
>>54865556
Could you keep your anime crap on /a/? Thanks.
>>54866062
>tfw got in at 28% because I'm a tranny
Gotta game the system, anon. If you're not a minority make yourself a minority.
>>54879903
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>>54865556
this is now an EECS master race thread
http://ucberkeleyeecs.com/
>>54873141
>and that shit like matrix math is more relevant and useful to them
When was the last time that was actually relevant to you?
Genuinely curious.
>>54879936
Nobody cares fag
>>54866160
>glass up on unused fume cupboard
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>54865556
What are you going to do after the happening when the power is out forever and there's no more computers or internet?
Switch to Civil or Mechanical Engineering now, so you will actually be useful after the happening.
>>54867926
>>54868741
>>54871901
>not pure math
enjoy literally being a brainlet
>>54872652
>wanting to improve your skills
>actually working harder just to please your boss, who only sees you as a replaceable cog in the machine
>falling for for the capitalism meme so hard you've shattered every bone in your body
I seriously hope not, anon.
>>54869235
cs is for academia/research/theoretical advances
software engineering is for code monkeying for minimum wage until you kill yourself
>>54870071
>economics
P U R E
M A T H
what is it you idiots do not understand
>>54866091
Calm down. UW CS is not what most people make it out to be.
>>54865556
I'm not a CS major, fuck that shit. I'm majoring in physics, an actual science.
>>54865904
Pajeet focuses strictly on Ruby, Java, and C#, making meme apps at meme companies because their parents fell for the 'web-dev is real dev' meme, while glorious Aryans focus on solid languages like C/C++ and systems engineering.
>>54865556
>taking post-secondary advice from /g/
>>54865674
>he fell for the 60 hours of studying a week just to become a CAD monkey meme
>>54881942
>physics
All the innovation was done literally 450 years ago
Do something good with your life.
who /elementarymiddleschooldoublemajor/ here?
>>54881968
More like new shit began about 100 years ago and has been blowing up since
>implying CS is doing something good with your life
Enjoy being a fucking code monkey for eternity
>>54866199
If you'd ever done either you'd know which is more repetitive and tedious.
>>54881989
>"relativity is interesting I promise!!!"
fuck off
also I'm not majoring in CS that's even worse.
the only letter in STEM worth the energy to associate yourself with is the last one.
How do I get into nano technology?
>>54869753
http://joelgrus.com/2016/05/23/fizz-buzz-in-tensorflow/
Machine Learning is the only way I do my fizzbuzz
>>54882031
do not support things that will harm humanity
>>54882031
Take some chemistry
>>54882021
>what is quantum
>implying physics isn't loaded with S and M, plus a ton of T and a fair bit of E but let's ignore that
I switched out of IT because I thought all websites were already build by then.
It was 2004 I remember it well.
>>54882105
>PHYSICISTS
>DOING MATH
>hurr i can plug and chug integrals and ODEs
im lmaoing@ ur ignorance anon
if only I could be there when you realized how much bigger math is than your applied human garbage.
math transcends reality.
>>54865730
I couldn't pass pre-calc but I fucking raped calc1, calc2, and calc3.
>loved CS since high school
>mom forced me to into biology
>sucked at it
>convinced her to let me do CS
>currently doing CS at top school in state
>that empty feeling when your life is going exactly as you want it to but you still feel out of control
>>54882175
cal1-3 are easy.
have you taken a good course on linear algebra yet? It's pretty easy too but fuck me dead it's infinitely more interesting than java
>>54882200
yeah, took a linear algebra course at my old school. calc 3 at my current school is half linear algebra and half multivar. glad to be done with math though, except for stats and combinatorics.
it ties in well, but some students thought it was really hard to have to learn two vastly different and now the math department is splitting a 4 credit class into two 3 credit classes. basically it's jewery.
>>54882232
ah I hate when that happens. Just wasting student's time and taking their money.
combinatorics can be fun depending on the course content
stats was mind numbing for me though
>>54871517
Yeah, only if you're too retarded to get into a top tier school like UCB, Caltech, MIT, etc.
Same goes for CS.
>>54876280
What do you do?
>>54882175
>lets mom pick out clothes
>lets mom and dad chose their girlfriend
>lets parents control life then bitches about it
>doesn't think critically
>gets to age 30 before realizing he/she has no spine
>>54882276
pls no bully
>>54881962
ECEs literally get 100k starting.
I agree other engineering disciplines are shit (eng @ a top 10 school is acceptable, otherwise might as well pursue career in basket weaving, or get ton of insurances and commit sudoku)
>>54882145
Enjoy being a high school teacher w/ your useless PhD
Pure math is shit tier unless you're 99.9999th percentile genius (like Terence Tao)
>>54882388
>not being smart enough for your uni to fund you through grad school and hire you as soon as you graduate for a tenure-track position
I guess that's why some people become engineers. They just weren't gonna make it brah.
>>54882031
EE Degree with a focus in Quantum Mechanics/Fabrication
>>54882418
Well.. If you're talking about Oxbridge/Harvard/MIT tier school, good for you.
My take is that studying (as in life career) pure math is as useless as majoring in philosophy, unless you're 170+ IQ genius smart enough to get at least a Fields medal. Otherwise the effect you are going to bring to the field as an individual would be so insignificant, and your career would be glorified mental masturbation at best.
>>54882276
Asian feels. You wouldn't know, bruh.
Don't mind it though. Hasn't hurt me so far.
>>54882292
you're right, sorry, no harm meant
>mom buy new printer
>anon help me
>install driver
>somehow not working
>browsing for solutions online
>15 minutes passed
>"is it done anon? i need to work"
>"wait a minute mom, im working on it"
>"that's why you should took CS anon"
>"the future is all about technology"
>finished 10 mins later
>turns out a mistake installing 32 bit driver on 64 bit pc
>go to /g/
>"CS grad people is shit"
>"Fucking basement dweller"
idk
>>54881755
My MD will help me.
>>54882295
>ECEs literally get 100k starting.
www.computerworld.com/article/2487847/it-careers/what-stem-shortage--electrical-engineering-lost-35-000-jobs-last-year.html
I don't fucking know
>tfw majoring in triple integrals and looking at a job for 300k starting right after I graduate
just a few more months now boyos
