Why should I install Arch instead of Fedora Rawhide? I'll be using Gnome since I really need DPI scaling.
Things I care about:
>both on Linux 4.5
>both rolling release
>Arch takes more work to install, Rawhide uses the Anaconda installer which is great
>Arch has bigger repositories, but Rawhide has Red Hat repositories with based DNF and delta transfers
Things I could not care less about:
>being a free tester for the company that contributes more to FOSS and GNU/Linux in the world
>systemd, it works well for the only thing I need in an init: defining boot-time scripts
If you know what you need then install it stupid, Arch is fucking autism tier anyways, and offers almost not practicality or functionality for work.
>>54816308
You don't really know what you're talking about. Anyone else?
>>54816294
>Arch takes more work to install
Architect
Things you should care about
>People making fun of you for using an OS named Fedora
>>54816294
Just go with whatever you think it's better for your needs, why should you install an OS based on what some autistic neckbeard says?
Or you just did you just wanted to start a shitposting war?
>>54816294
Honestly, install gentoo. It has fast releases, and amazing package manager. When installing there is a profile you can select which installs systemd and gnome.
Arch fags like to say "i know what gets installed", not really your package manager pulls in 20 dependencies and enables all the features of every program you install by default.
>>54816294
try both, they both are free.
>>54816294
You are not a free tester more so than any other user on any other os.
>>54816871
That's the point: I don't really know which one is best. That's what this thread is for.
>>54816429
>Architect
Does it really work well? It has a weird option to make grub the "main bootloader" which always concerned me.
>>54817003
>What are a few gig of redundant packages in a plethora of hdd space these days
Enjoy your compilation time
Go with Fedora, since RHEL has a presence in the enterprise world, and it's pretty stable in my experience.
Geez. The Fedora shills are in full force today.
Arch for the AUR 2bh, use one of the easy-mode installers if you don't want to touch the command line
>>54819130
>I don't really know which one is best. That's what this thread is for.
Okay then, just try one for like 2 or 3 weeks and then try the other for the same amount of time.
openSUSE Tumbleweed trumps all. Deal with it.
>>54819268
im enjoying my optimized packages :).
get the fuck out arch peasant
pleb probably is probably on of the fags on /r/unixporn with his tiling window manager and fake coding session just to show off.
>>54820184
Because prajeets have invaded fedora/redhat we get just as much shilling as windows 10. People are falling for it as well
>>54816294
I prefer Arch because Fedora is lacking a lot of packages in it's repos.
Also Arch isn't as bloated as Fedora so you only have the software installed that you need.
>inb4 I get insulted by memesters
>>54823140
Forgot to add this:
Fedora is very restrictive when it comes to proprietary software (e.g. drivers) so if you want packages like that then it's harder to install them.
>>54820184
>Shilling
>for a completely free as in beer and as in freedom distro
Not everyone who likes things you don't like is a shill, anon.
>>54823210
Ok, stuff like nVidia drivers?
>>54823140
If this is true then archfags just found the only distro that is more bloated than their own one.
>>54823351
>Ok, stuff like nVidia drivers?
Yes, only the nouveau driver is availabe in the repos.
Of course there is always a way to install the proprietary driver (or any propietary package), it's just not as simple as typing "dnf install nvidia".
>>54823422
>Arch
>bloated
Are you literally retarded?
>>54816294
It's fun
>>54816294
>Rawhide uses the Anaconda installer which is great
>Anaconda
>Great
OP, I'm an RHCE so I obviously like some things about Red Hat. But saying Anaconda is great is so far from the truth. Nobody likes that buggy piece of shit. I'd rather write a kickstart than have to deal with it.
>>54823441
>not understanding that arch memers are the only people who dont understand the level of disgusting bloat in arch
>>54824497
As an Arch memer, I don't and never cared about bloat. For me Arch is all about the based AUR.
>>54816294
AUR
U
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>>54824551
What does the AUR do for you that literally any other distro doesn't do?
>>54816294
AUR A R AUR
U_U U U U_U
R A RUA R \
>>54816294
pray to god the 3rd party fedora repos you need support rawhide or it's gonna be shit
>>54824587
Gives you virtual herpes
>>54816294
unless it has changed recently, fedora rawhide doesn't sign packages - not that it matters too much, arch didn't sign packages by default until mid 2015, but it should be fairly evident that the developers don't intend for it to be used as a primary desktop, it can be, but it's not in the same league as other rolling release distributions which at least offer some pretence that updates won't completely break your system
>>both on Linux 4.5
if rolling release isn't mandatory then you can enable vanilla repos in regular fedora for various stages of development mainline kernels that are ahead of the kernels fedora provides
>>54816429
>Things you should care about
>>People making fun of you for using an OS named Fedora
the people who care about fedora's name are insecure neckbeards; grow a fucking pair
>>54819130
>That's the point: I don't really know which one is best. That's what this thread is for.
well if you know the pros and cons of either it should be fairly obvious which one you should go for, it's typically only something *you* can decide for your use case
>>54820184
>Geez. The Fedora shills are in full force today.
the arch shills will be here shortly to even the playing field but pacman broke their xorg conf again :^)
>>54823140
>I prefer Arch because Fedora is lacking a lot of packages in it's repos.
stock fedora + rpmfusion covers pretty much everything (barring amd drivers but they're almost always consistently broke, roll on amdgpu) but if there is some software fedora/rpmfusion doesn't package OP presumably would have mentioned it
>>54823210
>Fedora is very restrictive when it comes to proprietary software
this is very much a pro as well as a con, rpmfusion covers all the non-free stuff that covers most people's needs so it's almost a non-issue
>>54823351
>Ok, stuff like nVidia drivers?
nvidia drivers are in rpmfusion's repos, you won't have any problems
>>54820236
>>54824551
>>54824560
>>54824595
pls go
the aur is no better than debian packaging, custom gentoo ebuilds, or slackbuilds etc
it's just a repository of scripts that tell the package manager where to download something and what commands to use to install it. anybody could make a system like that in any other distro and make it better. you're retarded.
i started on arch and i thought i was cool for never having used "muh noobuntu", but im glad i stopped because the more i come on /g/ the more i realize the only people who use arch are people who started on arch.
I use both. Arch is a timesink and Fedora just werks. It's not worth the effort desu.
continuing from >>54824792
tl;dr >>54816294 I can't speak for arch but fedora' probably solid if you don't need rolling release, fedora rawhide will probably be a bit shit if you do *need* rolling release however
>>54823441
>Of course there is always a way to install the proprietary driver (or any propietary package), it's just not as simple as typing "dnf install nvidia".
no, but it IS as simple as:
su -c 'dnf install http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm'
on a fresh install to enable rpmfusion (or just go to rpmfusion's fucking website and click a button to use the gui package manager) then
dnf install akmod-nvidia "kernel-devel-uname-r == $(uname -r)"
dnf update -y
http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration
http://rpmfusion.org/Howto
http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia?highlight=%28CategoryHowto%29
it's almost no extra effort than enabling AUR, which is arguably one of the few redeeming features of arch
>>54823816
not trolling but what's wrong with it, honestly? I've not had a problem with it since I started using fedora way back during 2007 ish
>>54824834
>and Fedora just werks.
unfortunately not if you're using proprietary AMD drivers (bonus points if using Gnome also) but that's neither here nor there
>>54824897
>not trolling but what's wrong with it, honestly? I've not had a problem with it since I started using fedora way back during 2007 ish
In my experience, it's incredibly temperamental and will crash whenever you try to do anything out of the ordinary. If you plan on trying to use it to configure RAID, you may as well just give up from the outset. Its been a mess ever since they redesigned it in Fedora 18. Prior to that, I didn't mind it.
>>54825198
>If you plan on trying to use it to configure RAID, you may as well just give up from the outset.
ah fair, never had to do anything with raid
it is slow as balls with plenty of disks I'll give you that
