GTX 1070 faster than a 980ti and Titan X
AMD is finished
Alright /g/. Let's try something. Let's just not fucking respond. I believe you can do this.
>AMD's cards haven't even been announced yet
>the 1070 only has leaked benchmarks, we just don't know the full picture yet
>fanboys are still going to argue like they're both totally sure of their information
Why is it always like this on male dominated sites? You never see women at each other's throats because they disagree with someone else's Linux distribution or video card preference.
>>54763387
That's cuz bitches can't Linux
>>54763351
R9 380 4gb SOC bro here
For the price I expect it to score be very high family.
good so when i upgrade to the new 1000 series memecard I can look forward to good things :)
wait for poiloris to have a objective proforance result though.
Brand loyalty is for plebs
>>54763405
If this holds up 379$ MSRP is a steal for this kind of performance, brand loyalty or not
>>54763468
if its anything like the 970 launch, it will be sold out for months and if you do buy one, expect to pay a premium just because people can charge that much.
>>54763468
>If this holds up 379$ MSRP is a steal for this kind of performance
Yep ;)
>>54763360
Can we?
>>54763351
>mfw they said the same thing about the 1080
>>54763387
>AMD's cards haven't even been announced yet
Is that an excuse? Lol
>>54763579
>using a biased game that heavily favors AMD
>>54763596
Are you retarded?
>>54763468
Whatever you Gefucboi Nvidiots do, at least wait for third party overclocks with aftermarket heatsinks.
It's already been shown that most of the good third party 980Ti perform better than the reference 1080.
>>54763596
Not him but
>Bias
>980 Ti and Fury X are basically on hairs breath with each other
What the fuck are you smoking?
>>54763596
>>54763694
its widely reported that AMD worked closely with the devs of the game.
>>54763733
And?
AOTS is an AMD sponsored game but the devs worked more closely with nvidia. What's your point?
Are you intentionally ignoring >>54763694 ?
>>54763351
>dat 4k score within margin of error of FuryX
lop tel
>>54763596
You mean any true DX12 game?
>>54764038
>HBM IS JUST A MEME
>V-VEGA WON'T SHIT ALL OVER PASCAL
Enjoy having the strongest mainline card on the market... for the next four months anyways.
>>54763387
>AMD's cards haven't even been announced ye
They are late to the party as always, and it will cost them
Im just sitting here with my cock in my hand refreshing amazon trying to grab an EVGA 1080
>>54763579
>>54763616
>>54763853
That Total War DX12 benchmark was done with a demo benchmark supplied by AMD, not with the released game. The game only has dx11 and the 1080 wins there (pic related).
Read the article before all falling for this bait...
http://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-warhammer-benchmarks-strike-fear-into-cpus/
>>54764067
>A-AMD will w-win n-next time g-guys!
It's almost like I've heard this before
>>54764078
>AMDrones BTFO with lies misinformation once again
Classic
>>54764073
>buying on the first day, hell even the first month
You like being robbed?
>>54764086
Looking to get a super clock version of it, how much is that gonna decrease in price over the next few months? Not much if any
here's a crazy concept. Why don't you wait until team red releases their shit before claiming they're finished?
here's another thought. Why don't you just do research on all your options and make your purchase decision based on whatever option best fits your need?
Fucking crazy right?
Then we can delete all these autistic "X on suicide watch" threads and have adult conversations.
>>54764115
Everything that's leaked so far suggests polaris 10 will be mainstream.
3d mark benchmarks have already been leaked of polaris 10 so we already have a pretty good idea on how it will perform.
In between fury and the 980.
So there's plenty of concrete stuff to base some estimations on already
>>54764073
Nigger it's in five and a half hours.
>>54764115
AMD will manage to respond with something kinda competitive with Vega, but when you see the roadmap for Nvidia with the 1080ti and what follows.. it isnt looking for AMD in the medium term.
Again, this is for pc master race, company wise AMD will remain healty thanks to console sales which is also making the company not caring about high end. At this rate AMD will end up making graphic units for cellphones.
>>54764079
>>A-AMD will w-win n-next time g-guys!
fury x over 1080 >>54763579
looks like amd is competitive at the very least when nvidia doesn't gimp the game.
>Want to get a 1080/1070
>P8Z68-V PRO Gen 1 w/2600k i7
I should just buy a new fucking PC.
>>54764079
It's always in the future with amd cocksuckers. Never here, never now, always in a vague future with a lot of wishful thinking.
This shit is fucking hilarious. I've only been hearing this parole from then since the bulldozer days.
>>54764141
I'm gonna be up all night anyways, working weekend nights has got me fully nocturnal
>>54764134
only thing we don't have an idea about is price, and the range can take it from 200-300$ or if you like nvidia 400~$ because it has to be priced higher than a fury if its faster than one.
the price makes or breaks the card, granted we also don't know what the 1070 will be priced at either, and not the msrp, what the card will actually sell for.
>>54764164
>wanting to upgrade from a 2600k
You should buy a new brain instead.
>>54764159
>looks like amd is competitive at the very least when nvidia doesn't gimp the game.
Looks like you didn't read very well
see
>>54764078
>>54764150
bulk sales are not high end cards, chasing that is just bragging rights when the its a sub 5% market.
>>54764192
yea, i skimmed the article, they are putting out a full dx12 patch in the near future and are showing some of the benched results.
>>54764166
>This shit is fucking hilarious
It is
>>54764212
So what does it matter when you can just play it on dx 11?
It seems like most games coming out that have dx12 also have a dx11 problem.
Seems like the best of both worls to me.
Nvidia card owners can use DX11 mode and enjoy optimized drivers with great performance
AMD card owners can use the DX12 mode and benefit from the fact that they finaly have good drivers because it's tailored on the gamedevelopers side.
Both party's win
>>54764181
If we are talking game performance the 2600k is starting to slow ya down a bit
>>54764078
>Pascal aka shrunk Maxwell does well in dx11 and shit in dx12
Totally surprising for a dx11 asic, who would have thought.
>>54764229
>It seems like most games coming out that have dx12 also have a dx11 problem.
A dx 11 mode*
So what percentage of games out right now is DX12, and DX12 exclusive, so it has no DX11 mode?
Just trying to make a fair assessment on how big the issue would really be if one of the camps did not fair well in dx 12
>tfw amd is dying
i want amd to fail, and nvidia to become a monopoly. amd are just holding the GPU industry back with their shitty cards. we will enter a new golden age once they die
>>54763351
AMD waitfag reporting in
sorry guys but Raja is just too cute. this little curry gnome stole my heart.
I'll wait for you Raja.....I'll wait for you 5ever.
>>54764229
>>54764212
Small but important detail, this is not the official dx12 patch they are testing but a custom built AMD version of the game.
It attacks the 1080 straight on to the point that it makes it equal to the normal gtx 980... thats how irrelevant this dx12 tailer version is..
>>54764289
Sounds like the sort of thing Nvidia always gets accused of doing, that's pretty disgusting to be honest
>>54764078
>can't even reach 60 frames per second
WHAT A SHITTY CARD
>>54764287
>curry gnome
>>54764255
wont happen overnight. it will be like dx10 and dx11 where games will play on both but have an option for dx11 features and slowly phase out the older DX version.
>>54764334
This time it's different though since we also have Vulkan.
>>54763387
You're right they just give each other the silent treatment.
I dream /g/ will do this one day, image it a board without autistic flame wars.
>>54764057
this
>>54764289
>>54764295
a game is made that is *GASP* completely compliant with a standard, and not incorporating shit that drags performance down... the nerve of them.
>>54764255
many AAA games coming out by christmas will have dx12, may not be only 12 due to how many people are still on win 7, but still a large number, and if doom vulcan does well, we may see them slide to vulcan instead and only vulcan, next year is when you will see some of the bigger AAA go dx12/vulcan exclusive, at least non microsoft published AAA, and that's when it will hurt.
nvidia will have close to a year at least on an architecture that just can't handle a modern api, possibly more if volta isn't completely compatible, though i'll be honest, i doubt it wont be, as shit as i think nvidia is as a company, they aren't brain dead.
>>54763579
>480X will be faster than 1080
>$300 card faster than $700 card
NVIDIOTS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>54764102
>He's getting a single 8-pin card
>>54763351
So how much would these cost?
>>54764166
The future was 2011 to 2015, when AMD cards successfully held the performance gap in almost every benchmark, every release until Nvidia released whatever X80ti, only to retake it after a couple of weeks with driver tweaks?
Am I the only person around here that actually remembers that the only time Nvidia had a lead in performance until the 980 was when the game made heavy use of their proprietary Phsyx or a fuckton of AA? Am I the only guy that remembers that the fucking Fury and Fury X both outstripped the 980 with driver tweaks and it took the release of the 980ti to bring Nvidia back into the lead, until driver tweaks and cooling solutions from third parties put the Fury/X on par with it in most applications?
Why the fuck are all of you so damned delusional?
>>54764255
That doesn't really matter.
You can't claim to be the Top End™ king of cutting edge technology if you can't actually use cutting edge technology very well.
>>54766413
>Fury and Fury X both outstripped the 980 with driver tweaks and it took the release of the 980ti to bring Nvidia back into the lead
Are you sure you're not suffering from a concussion?
The 980Ti came before the Fury, so how come it took the release of it to claw back the first place from cards that weren't even out yet when it released?
Also do you remember the "Overclocker's Dream" hype, only for the card to maybe if you're really lucky do +50 Mhz on core?
>>54764804
>a game is made that is *GASP* completely compliant with a standard, and not incorporating shit that drags performance down... the nerve of them.
How do you know that? Did you look at the code, or are you just believing what AMD told you?
>>54763579
>AMD provided us with a preview build of the DX12 version of the game, which conveniently includes a built-in benchmark—or rather, it's only a benchmark, so you can't actually play the game. Meanwhile, the retail launch doesn't include a built-in benchmark, at least not right now, meaning there's no way to directly compare performance from the two builds.
>We’re pleased to confirm that Total War: WARHAMMER will also be DX12 compatible, and our graphics team has been working in close concert with AMD’s engineers on the implementation. This will be patched in a little after the game launches...
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Optimisation_Blog
Hmm
>>54766413
>>54766428
Always funny to see an AMDrone being called out on his lies
>>54766446
I honestly don't know what it is about AMD specifically that makes all these cultists so attracted to them.
They take whatever piece of PR spin Huddy utters as the word of God and run with it.
>>54766480
>I honestly don't know what it is about AMD specifically that makes all these cultists so attracted to them.
Its cheap
>>54763579
THAT FUCKING R9 NANO!!!!
>>54766490
Not that cheap. A 50$ difference on a new GPU is pretty much meaningless.
![wDXeenueCnQWjiyUmWMehc[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/rqXiGJt.png "wDXeenueCnQWjiyUmWMehc[1].png")
>>54766505
That fucking CPU bottleneck.
>>54766428
Shit, you're right. I could have sworn it was the other way around.
Well, whatever. I'm wrong about the release times for the R9/900 stuff, but what I said about the 7900 and R9 200 time frame, that 2011 to 2015 block, is still entirely accurate.
Nvidia has the edge in sales because of the 970, which everyone bought up in troves because of Nvidia's lies about the video RAM. Then, because Nvidia fanboys are just as stupid as any other kind of fanboy, tons of them just fucking upgraded to the 980, by which I mean they took the offer of paying the difference to Nvidia.
Regardless, I'm not trying to make an argument towards either company being intrinsically superior, because I'm not a fucking fanboy of either of them. I go with whatever is best at the time. I'm trying to highlight this abso-fucking-lutely irrational idea that Nvidia has always been the superior GPU maker, when that wasn't the case for four years straight in recent history.
>>54766515
Was meant as a reaction to >>54766502
>>54766505
Still cheaper, and people always want to believe they can get a free lunch.
That's why you'll constantly see cherrypicked benchmarks in which a fury x performs closely to a 980ti while in 99% of the games it won't
>>54766517
>which everyone bought up in troves because of Nvidia's lies about the video RAM
You are honestly convinced it was the 0,5GB of Vram difference that made so many people purchase the card? And not the stellar performance/power consumption at the price point it was offered?
Sounds pretty delusional
>>54766517
>but what I said about the 7900 and R9 200 time frame, that 2011 to 2015 block, is still entirely accurate.
That's not true either. Or rather the way you present it is very simplistic.
Maxwell came out in September 2014 and it dominated in sales not because lies about 3.5, but because it offered performance on par with a 290x for 40% less initially, with much better thermals and power draw. It took AMD 9 months to get an answer out.
As for Kepler - it certainly was the more efficient and performant architecture at the time. 680 was slightly faster or on par with a 7970 for quite a while, even though it is a significantly smaller chip.
The high point of GCN is the fact that it was a more forward looking architecture, but it's strong suit didn't come out to play until 2 or 3 years after it's initial launch.
In older (2013 or lower, some 2014) games Kepler is still faster.
>>54766553
Considering I remember the absolute holocaust of anger and backlash that happened that caused Nvidia to offer a sweeping solution of letting people effectively buy two cards for the price of one, yes I am honestly convinced the thing that sold it so well was that people thought they were getting more performance than they actually did.
>>54766596
>it dominated because of price/performance
And a large part of that initial hype was caused by lies.
Also, again, the 680 was slightly faster than the 7900 series, until driver tweaks. Cards last longer than initial release. I spent months doing research and scanning benchmarks before I upgraded from 480 to a 7950. The 7900 series was consistently the better overall performer compared to the 600 series, especially in third-party applications.
My old 7950 with an overclock was still keeping up with my 970, by which I mean it was close enough before anyone freaks the fuck out. I'd love to be able to get both in async with DX12, but the future isn't that bright.
Regardless of any of that, I'm pretty excited for some new architecture. However, I'm reserving judgment until there are both 1) third-party 1000 series cards and 2) an actual AMD gpu out to be benchmarked, at all.
Given that the R9 release was kinda underwhelming, but the Fury's still managed to perform in line with Nvidia's best, I'm not going to just write them off entirely because lol fanboyism.
>>54766737
>yes I am honestly convinced the thing that sold it so well was that people thought they were getting more performance than they actually did.
So the fact that they actualy were getting tons of performance at a low price point, and the benchmarks showed it, had nothing to do with it selling well?
>>54766237
I have to due to my current build.
>>54766790
I think the fact that consumer backlash was so strong that the parent company literally gave away two cards for the price of one says all that needs to be said.
Considering that sales of the card absolutely fucking tanked in the following months after the debacle, I think that also says plenty.
I do think people were running out to buy it for it's price/performance point, but I also think they believed they were getting more than they actually got, and when the reality of the situation hit home it showed in sales.
>>54766895
>but I also think they believed they were getting more than they actually got
That's a really weird assumption though.
People base their performance expectations on benchmarks.
And they got exactly the performance that benchmarks showed with the 970.
It's not like the leak of the 0,5GB changed anything about how the card performed in benchmarks before it leaked.
>>54766920
Also
>considering that sales of the card absolutely fucking tanked in the following months after the debacle,
I think you're just spouting stuff you can't back up, lets see a source for that
>>54766920
Except, no, not everyone bases their performance expectations on benchmarks. There's a reason that the companies slap simple, big numbers on all the advertising for things. The GTX 970 is still branded as a 4GB card, even though everyone who bothers to do their research knows that isn't entirely accurate.
You're assuming everyone does tons of research before they go buy a GPU just because you or your friends of people on /g/ do. Most consumers are still uninformed.
If what you're saying was the case, there wouldn't have been the massive backlash from people who bought the card.
>>54766961
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/sales-of-desktop-graphics-cards-hit-10-year-low-in-q2-2015/
Considering the GTX 970 was their number one seller, it stands to reason that was the cause, especially given that once the 3.5 fiasco blew over sales went back up.
>>54764078
directx 12 is a future API, that means nvidia cards will be shitting in future
>>54767055
>considering that sales of the card absolutely fucking tanked in the following months after the debacle,
Rational people do and yes I am assuming people who spend this kind of money on cards also make the effort to at least look up a couple of benchmarks on youtube, seems like a reasonable assumption.
>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/sales-of-desktop-graphics-cards-hit-10-year-low-in-q2-2015/
That's not proof, and not what I asked for, show some proof that after the 3,5GB leak sales of the 970 specifically 'absolutely tanked' like you claimed.
And please filter out the natural sales curve, which will go down after most people have upgraded.
>>54763579
>GTX1080 4 FRAMES AHEAD OF THE 980 AND 2 FRAMES BEHIND THE 980 TI
IT'S OVER, NVIDIA IS FINISHED
When will you manchildren stop playing games?
>>54763579
epic dx12 support nvidia
>Nvidiots still alive and breathing
You would almost have a point if it wasn't 600 USD.
>>54764115
>here's a crazy concept. Why don't you wait until team red releases their shit before claiming they're finished?
Kinda funny how they JUST released 3xx.
Now the AMD drones are crying again because their hardware became obsolete in less than a year.
>>54763596
>Its only okay if nvidia does it with gayworks.
>>54768310
Strange, did the AMD cards suddenly stop playing video games?
>>54763579
>970 is more powerful than 2 970 in SLI
What?
>>54763561
In what shithole country? I bought a 970 a few days after launch and swapped it out a few times hoping to get one without coil whine (which failed and I never ended up getting one at all in the end).
>1080 slide show shows 2.1 Ghz benchmarks
>actual 1080p barely scratches 1800
>it then there's throttles back to 1600s after 4 minutes of gameplay
K E K
E E E
K E K
>>54768611
>admits to buying a shitty graphics card
lol
>>54768310
>just released 3xx
do you like being retarded
>AMD is finished
The reign of AMD has not even begun.
Anyone know any real details about the next mobile flagship? will it make gay men laptops finally viable?
>>54768820
They already are viable, just throw 4000 USD at it.
If you mean viable for poor people, no.
>>54768674
It thermal throttles because NVIDIA's default profile is set to 8C too low.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXUo1S55ZUM
>>54768851
>change from default temp
>meltdown ensues
>violated warranty
>6 gorillian shekels burned
Well played.
>>54768834
It's not really the money that bothers me, its the size. If they can make a single GPU laptop that actually fits in a backpack with the performance that ASUS claims then I'll probably never go back to desktops.
>>54768903
> implying < 90c will cause a house fire
This is not an AMD card.
>>54768685
This was before 3.5 was known and I literally just said that I never ended up owning a 970 (for more than a few days) because they were all piece of shit with coil whine. Great post though!
>>54764848
What games? Most devs don't switch DX version until b or c release.
>>54768929
>being a newfag
>>54769082
> being a fag
>>54769106
>still being a newfag
>>54769115
Anyways, shouldn't you be in school right now?
>>54768768
You forgot to add that it will also never begin in the first place.
>>54769136
>projecting this hard
>>54769219
See >>54769082
You kinda started it, so if anyone is projecting I am sad to say it is you.
>>54769136
Newfags always get offended when you call them that and start projection loops like >>54769397
>>54763351
Consumers haven't seen specs for any competing cards, and the prices for AyyMD's Poolaris cards haven't even been stated yet.
Newsflash the 1070 is currently overkill for 1080p. "Futureproofing" might lead you to get one for 1080p but if you're that financially conscientious then you'd want to wait for the competition to show up anyway
>>54763387
>You never see women at each other's throats because they disagree with someone else's Linux distribution or video card preference.
Since no one took the b8, here's your u
>>54768929
This is literally Thermi 2.0. The epitome of housefire technology has returned.
>>54768768
>We'll get em next time guys
20 years later..
>>54763387
We don't do it in person, so we need somewhere to vent.
>>54763387
I haven't seen women ever doing anything but smalltalk.
>>54763351
>spending 500-800$ on cards that still cant into dx12
How do you defend this nvidia goys?
>>54763351
500 points is margin of error. It's as fast as a 980ti at best.
>>54763351
Get two 1070's and have 4K 60 fps for $758. This is looking like a good deal.
If you have to look closer and nitpick benchmarks to prove something clearly it's a shitty upgrade. In fact only something at least 1.5 times better should be considered an upgrade. GPUs scale piss fucking easy, it's literally just "add more cores", are they really that jewish? And with clocks and hear that high it's almost guaranteed they are already at their peak.
>>54768560
It is at 1080p. You don't do sli or a 1080 for that resolution.
>>54768560
DX12 doesn't support multi-gpu. But shhhhh don't tell anyone until they buy their two 1080/1070's.
>>54770163
1070 benchmarks haven't released yet
Prices aren't confirmed, we all thought the 1080 was going to be 599
Don't get your hopes up and start planning shit yet, wait for release, it's the smart thing to do
>FE aka reference shit card is $700
>ASUS O8G with 8+8pin is $640
Meanwhile in Switzerland
>FE supposed to be $790
>It's fucking $850
>ASUS is $899
Retailers are literally basing the price of custom cards on Founder's Edition cards, and because the custom cards are better than the shitty reference cards, they should naturally be sold at a higher price, right?
Except that's not how it works and that NVIDIA basically fucked everything up with their FE crap.
>>54770210
>DX12 doesn't support multi GPU
Yes it does, just all devs that have made DX12 games are too incompetent to implement SLI
>>54770223
They will have to come around eventualy, they are basically pricing themselves out of the market like this.
Almost nobody is going to buy the cards at those prices
>>54770223
Which Asus 1080 has 8+8 pin? I've only seen 8+6 from them.
>>54770188
>it's literally just "add more cores"
If that is true, then why is AMD so shitty?
>>54770188
>In fact only something at least 1.5 times better should be considered an upgrade.
It's most likely 1.7 times faster than the 970, if it scales to the 970 like the 1080 did to the 980
>>54770288
Processors are a lot different than GPUs
But that guy is an idiot anyway, doesn't know what he's talking about
>>54766446
They enjoy lying. I guess when you're constantly getting BTFO in every trade for 5 years now it affects your mind
>>54763351
>GTX 1070 faster than a 980ti and Titan X
Got it
>AMD is finished
Why?
>>54763596
literally can't even happen
DX12 is not AMD Gameworks; NVIDIA is choosing not to give it to you
>>54770288
From what I see it's the opposite, their cards aren't even nearly as miserable as their CPUs. I don't own them, but they are viable.
>>54770305
The point is, currently it doesn't seem that way. What it seem like instead is cut down hardware pushed to its limits by "new compression" and ogreclocking. Waiting for proper benchmarks.
>>54766895
>sales tanked
>sold more in the next month after the whole 3.5 debacle than it did before
Kek
>>54770341
>The point is, currently it doesn't seem that way.
Based on what? The first leaked benchmark does suggest it is.
>. What it seem like instead is cut down hardware pushed to its limits by "new compression" and ogreclocking.
What is actualy wrong with having a higher clocked Maxwell architecture on a smaller node with better memory compression?
Maxwell already was a brilliant architecture
1070 will have GTX980 performance (+/- 10%). Screencap this. nvidiots still will defend this!
>>54770372
And you base this on what?
WE (NVIDIA) HAVE ASYNC! YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND!
>>54770359
Well, proper benches will show.
>What is actualy wrong with having a higher clocked Maxwell
No OC potential.
>>54770382
On 1080 performance.
>>54770372
>nvidiots have to defend shit when they are winning
lol
>>54770397
>no OC potential
even FE 1080's have been shown to pass the 2000 mhz mark stably
Why don't you bitch about the fury X which has absolutely NO OC headroom whatsoever
>>54770405
>comparing oc'd and aftermarket cards to a stock card
This is pretty sad even for AMDrone standards
>>54770313
holy kek this is fucking gold
>>54770430
>o-overclock on 1080 will change e-everything!
>>54770415
I bitch about everything my man, when I feel like it.
>>54770052
>next time
This isn't even next time. Vega is the direct opposition to the 1080 and 1080Ti. Nvidia just had the resources to CRUNCH TIME and push out Pascal ahead of schedule. Probably one of the reasons they're using GDDR5X instead of HBM.
>>54770313
>falseflagging when losing argument
Typical nvidiot.
>>54770313
holy fuck thats some underage poo in loo behaviour by AMDrones
>>54770415
With clocks that high returns diminish, purely physical reasons.
LUL. Nvidia btfo!
>>54770405
Post overclocked Fury X though. It's overclockers dream.
>>54770493
Well that's not even funny. Put me in coma for two years.
>>54770493
>non oc 180w loses to oc 280w+ in their own brand
>btfo
you are literally out of arguments
>>54770493
TWICE AS FAST AS TITAN
W
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>>54770415
2100MHz is basically the VERY limit of GTX1080 due to its power limit, which is about 23% more than its advertised base clock.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-3fi1ovAP0
>try OC to over 2200MHz
>have to massively reduce memory clock
>only stable in Furmark, real world test crashes n shit
Since GTX1080 have shittier IPC per Clock performance, the 23% extra clock are horribly translated into a real world performance.
>>54770553
>700$ card loses to 530$ card
They still defend this!.
Stupid questions but it's been 10 years since I've bought a graphics card but will snatch a 1080. Do these cards come with the power cables, or do I need to buy these seperately?
>>54770448
It's still over 20% faster than a 980 ti. Can't wait to upgrade my 980 to a 1080.
>>54770485
stop polluting /g/ with your autism
>>54770448
>H-here let me s-show you a cherrypicked benchmark! S-See I'm right!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm6kiLG1dTw
Sick gains, nvidikeks!
>>54770584
Why are they doing such asymmetrical test. Fucking OC both of them.
>>54770574
Again, AMD's top card can't even OC 50 mhz, and you are complaining about an overclock from 1600 to 2100 mhz like its a bad thing, GTFO AMD drones, nobody takes you seriously
>>54770584
>It's still over 20% faster than a 980 ti.
Than stock 980Ti. Look >>54770405 Buy you can buy it its all yours!
>>54770604
7 fps at 4K is actually a lot.
>>54770609
Are you a fucking retard? It clearly says the 1080 is 28% faster when comparing stock vs stock and it's 23% faster when comparing overclock vs overclock.
>>54770575
You want me to post oc results or something AMDead?
And FYI there is no competition called AMD in that graph you are literally non existent on the current market
>>54763351
I know it's a stupid question right now but how long before games become too demanding for a 1070/80?
>>54770627
What do you compare to? Its 3 FPS faster than 980Ti.
>>54770646
>implying you can overclock 1080 FE.
>implying it gives any gains
>nvidia releases new cards in 2016
>it only has good performance on DX11
>even old AMD cards beat 1080 at DX12 games
how does it feel being a cuck, jewvidiots?
>>54770493
>1733 Mhz
>8G
>100 USD more
>absolutely ass blasted
>1430 Mhz
>6G
>a year old
>solid lead
Sugoi. This is truly how the consumer was meant to be played.
>>54770677
sore losers always sling shit
>>54770675
>implying you can't
>>54770593
You must feel pretty retarded now
>>54770675
>I lost to AMD
>I don't gain performance in OC
Literally out of fucking arguments
>>54770625
>b-buy a $900 aftermarket 980 ti because it's 9% faster than a stock 1080
>d-don't buy a $599 board partner 1080 because there's no such thing as overclocking
>overclocking is an nvidia meme
>j-just guy the $900 980 ti for 9% extra performance pleaseeeeee
Spotted the retard. Any reply to this post is blatant damage control and will be discarded as pure retardation.
>>54770619
Yeah, they are fucking sucks at that.
But I am just calling out on your shit for labeling 1080 as an OC potential card when it is not.
GTX 980ti IS the OC potential card, with real world performance scaled well with the OC.
>>54770657
I compared it to reference 980 Ti.
GTX 1080 sold out here in amazon eu on day one
Asus sold out too
Can't say that about any AMD card
>>54770697
>all this AMD shit flinging
>all to hide the fact that they are butthurt that Nvidia is top dog once again and will remain so for the remainder of the year
>vega will be outclassed by the 1080ti
>meanwhile all AMDrones have to look forward to is last years mainstream performance with lower power draw
>>54770709
>But I am just calling out on your shit for labeling 1080 as an OC potential card when it is not.
Stop spouting bullshit and watch the video you mongoloid
>>54770593
>>54770720
AMD doesn't produce Veblen early access lines for the sole purpose of suckering in pre-order addicted gamers.
>>54770742
Right now they don't produce much of anything
>>54770720
No one buys trash, that's why.
>>54770706
>>j-just guy the $900 980 ti for 9% extra
>he is so butthurt about subpar performance of the NEW KING he cant even write and think properly
>>54763360
You already did
>>54770757
Shots fired
>>54770725
>all AMDrones have to look forward to is last years mainstream performance with lower power draw
As compared to Nvidia's last year high end performance with higher temperature?
You should also know the AMD benchmark that keeps getting tossed around is the 480, and the AMD R9 line goes up to x90. There's a whole level that could easily match the 1080, especially if the jump is as large as 380 -> 390.
>>54770625
>>54770758
>>>>>"Buy you can buy it its all yours!"
>buy you can buy
Damage control
kek
KEK
K E K
>>54770720
290x and to a lesser extent the fury x both sold out on release.
The 290x sold out so hard that the pricing got fucked up for half a year so stop being so much of a fucking newfag.
>>54770736
Did you even watch the video that I have posted?
The one with a goddam CUSTOM LIQUID COOLER that run below 30c on full trucking load?
I've already summed everything from that video in that post, along with a fucking graph that show how shitty the performance is in relative to the clock rate.
Also, the video you pointed me out to also show the EXACT SAME SHIT.
Overclocked to 21xxMHz, but fps gain is nowhere near what would someone expected out of the clock gained.
>>54770372
1070 will sell for $800, just how the 1080 sells for $1200 right now due to it being a huge paper launch with next to no availability.
Screencap this. nvidiots still will defend this!
>>54770749
>Computex is literally days away
Are you suggesting Nvidia is better because they blew millions to jump the gun and scam people who lack patience?
>>54770725
>i buy the lastest nvidia card so I can play my outdated DX11 games to the fullest! AMD wins at DX12 games but no worries! No game will ever use DX12
>>54770777
>>54770757
>>54770725
Amdrones getting wrecked bad today
>>54770778
>fury x sold out on release
TOP KEK
>>54770778
why are you lying on the internet?
>>54770807
>AMD wins at DX12 games but no worries! No game will ever use DX12
>What about all those games that Nvidia wins at?
>Clearly those were sabotaged by Nvidia to work in their favor!
Why the fuck is it so expensive in the UK? I just browsed some sites and they're clocking in at £600 plus.
Fuck that. Looks like I'll be stuck on a 1070 then
>>54770835
it did. it was so popular that amd had issues keeping up stock for it to sell.
>>54770835
Wasn't that due to poor yields and lack of stock?
>>54770875
GTX1080 actually lose performance in DX12 anon...
Yes, it basically won those benches, but not because of DX12, but by sheer raw power.
>>54770908
shut up
>>54770886
>it's a foreigners complain about the price of things in their country just like every new tech or game launch ever
You would think you would be used to it eventually.
>less transistors
>same company
>faster
yeah, no.
>>54770943
not when $699 converts into £478.
Absolutely no excuse.
>>54770886
I can only find reference ones for £600. I'd assume the aftermarket ones will be around £520-50.
>>54763387
That's because caring about tech doesn't draw enough attention.
>>54770971
>what is tax
>what are shipping costs
Are you seriously this retarded you think all products are sold at the converted US prices to GBP? Leave my country please.
>>54771014
Fuck you. You should be outraged about shitty tax rates too instead of insulting people behind a keyboard.
>>54770971
In real life, that $699 converts into £699 when the product is actually sold in the UK.
>>54771041
When did your dad let you back on the Internet, Louie?
>>54770785
>Overclocked to 21xxMHz, but fps gain is nowhere near what would someone expected out of the clock gained.
Now compare that to AMD's top cards can't even overclock 1 mhz, which one is the better oc'er?
That's right
>>54771060
if that's the case, why do different countries have different exchange rates?
>>54770785
>Overclocked to 21xxMHz, but fps gain is nowhere near what would someone expected out of the clock gained.
OC is about %. If you go from 1900 to 2100 MHz, that's a 10% increase, so fps increase should be that kind of factor, rather than 100MHz = 5fps.
And 10% increase in clocks usually means a 1-3% increase in fps
>>54771068
Thats irrelevant anon.
GTX 1080 is not an OC potential card which you initially claim it is, thats the only thing that I've being trying to point out the whole damn fucking time.
>>54771102
Yeah, at 21xxMHz, that is about 23% more than base clock, and 15% more than the average boost clock.
But these amount of clock increase does not translate well into real world bench, at least not comparable to Maxwell.
>>54771041
I was always aware that tech is more expensive here, but I gotta admit something snapped when I saw the US/EU prices on the Vive back when that was released
>>54771168
>Thats irrelevant anon.
Ofcourse it is irrelevant in your eyes because you are literally trying your best to hold onto your last meme.
Doesn't change the fact that AMD's top card is literally the worst overclocker around, and here you are bitching about 500 mhz overclocks on a reference card.
Do you even take yourself seriously?
>>54771083
This is for currency trading. Exchange rates are for exchanges of currency, not for the cost of goods in countries.
For example, it costs money to ship coffee beans from shitholistan to france. Does this mean you just convert the currencies to sell coffee? No, you put the price up because french people have more money than shitholestanians.
>>54771168
Overclocking has been a meme for a long time now. Ever since overclocking became more or less 'sanctioned behaviour', it was already over.
Don't OC or hope to, it's a waste of time and effort. Enjoy the silicon lasting 10 years more and 2% lower performance.
>>54771219
Spotted the fury x owner
>>54771233
But the context of the conversation is that the 1080 doesn't give extra performance for the OC.
AMD's cards are all stock overclocked because they're worse than nvidia cards at safer clocks
>>54767067
direct x12 has no real future if it requires a forced os upgrade to an os no one really wants. the only purpose it serves now is keeping amd retards from killing themselves.
>>54771259
>But the context of the conversation is that the 1080 doesn't give extra performance for the OC.
But you're just flat out lying here, how can you be this disingenuous?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO_0SPvy_4o
Stop it, just stop fucking lying ffs
>>54770677
>uses windows 10 for moderate gaming gains.
>uses windows 10
>calls nvidia users cucks.
Kek.
>>54763351
What would be a good price to pay for a used 980ti right now? 400? 350?
>>54771313
Fury X was just awful, wasn't it?
>>54771356
$300 because that's what it'll be when the 1070 releases
>>54771192
Why do you keep bringing up AMD?
All I did was pointing out how wrong you are when you label GTX 1080 as an OC potential card.
THATS FUCKING IT.
>but muh AMD
Stop deflecting shit and just accept the fact that your initial statement is baseless and wrong.
Nvidia did fucking great with Maxwell, but they fucked up and rushed Pascall out of the gate without improving its IPC while being high clocked as hell.
>>54771313
>10% gain
>for 22% overclock
Thanks for proving my point.
Pic fucking related, 980ti 16% gain over 20% overclock.
>>54771313
Well then I was lied to as well.
That's a decent OC by today's standards.
>AMDfags still try to find a way in to be relevant
>>54771389
>>>10% gain
>>for 22% overclock
>
>Thanks for proving my point.
>Pic fucking related, 980ti 16% gain over 20% overclock.
This is how overclocking works you dumb nigger
Have you never overclocked anything before? A x% increase in clock speed never means an x% increase in fps.
>>54771389
FUCK YOU AMDRONE. FUCK YOU AND YOUR COMPANI,
>>54771375
Fair enough, there's one for $400 near me and it's tempting, but being a waitfag sounds like it'll pay off more.
>>54771389
>All I did was pointing out how wrong you are when you label GTX 1080 as an OC potential card.
There's nothing wrong about that when the reference design is already getting 10% performance increases from OC'ing. Aftermarket cards with custom pcbs/coolers and better power connections will undoutebly clock even higher.
And in the scheme of things, it doesn't even matter.
Even if it were to overclock literally zero percent, it would still beat EVERYTHING AMD has into the ground.
The only card right now that actualy deserves to be labled as a non oc potential card is the fury x
Did AMD have some good cards back in the day or something? I can't understand why it has so many fans so quick to defend them.
>>54771313
>implying i will believe to some youtube shill over respectable review resource.
You wont fool anyone, kek.
>>54771455
Is this real? wow.
>>54771455
Oh looks it's adoredtv's cherrypicked benchmark
He literally managed to pick the one benchmark out there that reports thermal throttling and ignored all the others that didn't.
According to him others 'don't test the card inside a case'
Which is horseshit ofcourse, Hardwareunboxed for example specificaly states the tests his cards within a closed case.
Adoredtv has some nice video's but he's 100% an AMD fanboy, and that gtx 1080 video was all the proof I needed.
He even compared the 1080 stock to overclocked 980ti's and titan x's as if this is a fair comparison.
And you call that a credible source?
>>54771455
>literally cucked by its own boost
You cant make this shit up.
>>54771455
>its swings between advertised 1607 mhz clock and boost clock
You know what a core clock and boost clock is right ?
>>54771428
Did you even try to comprehend my post?
All I did, over and over again, is trying to point out how shitty GTX1080 OC gains is.
Nvidia already pushed the envelope with Pascall base clock, and further increasing the clock resulting in a heavy diminish return that reflected in the bench.
>>54771451
>muh AMD
Can you stop being fucking obsessed with muh AMD?
yeah they fucking sucks and horrible, but that is not the fucking point.
What kind of mental illness you have that you just can't stop bringing up AMD in every single fucking post you made no matter how irrelevant that is?
>>54771483
>i-its just a cherry pick! s-stop!
Damage control.
>>54771433
>COMPANI
What the fuck is wrong with you, nviditard?
>>54771455
>Star Wars:Battlefront runs at 1607 mhz core clock
so ?
![perfdollar_3840_2160[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/3NtYxdS.png "perfdollar_3840_2160[2].png")
>that poor price to performance ratio
Guess ill pass...
>>54771599
I'm so glad I'm not poor anymore so I don't have to buy crap to justify my purchases.
>>54771614
I got myself used 980Ti for 390$. Enjoy your +5% performance.
