>8GB of ram is enough he said
>>54750425
For shitposting
>>54750425
8gb is enough, but if you're going to get 16gb then you might as well get 32gb.
the only trhing worse than bad graphics is bad graphics that think they are good graphics
like in the screenshot
>>54750537
...plus, bad optimisation.
>>54750516
> getting 32gb of ram instead of 128gb master race
ISHYGDDT
>>54750571
128gb is fine, but if you're going to get 128gb then you might as well get 256gb
>b-but the gtx 970's 3.5GB is okay.. I don't play above 1080p anyway..
>proceeds to launch Undertale or League of Legends
>>54750425
what is this ugly looking game
>>54750602
that's fine but 512GiB of RAM is clearly the better option
>>54750602
What I don't understand is how people who go for 256gb don't go instead for 6TB
What game is this, far cry primal? It looks like shit and if it needs 10+GB of vRAM to run them something is seriously wrong with it. Battlefield consumes about 3GB of vRAM at 4k with AA turned on and on the ultra graphics preset.
Unless this game is running at 8k resolution in which case the vRAM usage is reasonable and OP is a faggot.
Bullshit aside,
I'm thinking of buying another 8gb, JUST so I can do the whole GPU Passthrough thing. It's really tempting.
>>54750650
what is this GPU passthrough you speak of?
>>54750628
> 2016
> 6TB of RAM
> not going for 1PB
shaking my head to be honest dudes
Don't listen to the plebs OP, I'm not even playing a game or anything.
I'm almost embarrassed for people that think 8 GiB is enough. Do they literally only use facebook or something?
>>54750673
>Dudes
>>54750617
Your life, Anon.
>>54750648
Welcome to the world of current AAA game titles, where everything is unoptimized, needs 10+ gb of vram to run properly and need 2 980's to sty at 60 fps.
>>54750685
my bad, dudes and this gay anon
>>54750673
wat, we aint SENPAI no more, brosephine? water u tryin 2 say
>>54750665
Use Windows on a virtual machine that can use a GPU for breakfast
So I can use linux and play something like Overwatch or whatever the fuck people play these days
>>54750689
>I live in the vaseline-smeared paleolithic era
eat a dick
>>54750673
You're smalltime. 1PB doesn't provide as much as 70PB.
>>54750673
>not at least 128 exa bytes of RAM
it's like you want your computer to be laggy
>>54750665
It's a way to get almost close to native performance in windows virtual machines. Very, very close.
>>54750677
I'm not even mad. 16GB RAM is like $50? Poorfags gonna poorfag.
>>54750701
not him but we don't know if the game is running at 8k or not. Of course it's gonna need a shitload of vram if it's running at 8k.
>>54750677
Ok, what's the trick here? What are you not showing us?
>>54750707
Appreciate you, my nugga. (,:
>>54750425
>gaymen
off yourself
>>54750747
>Screenshot is 1080p
Do you want me to post my ingame settings?
>>54750648
That's not FC:P, it's some shitty indie survival game which are never even finished let alone optimized.
>>54750748
Windows caches a bunch of shit when you aren't music out your ram. If you have a really fast SSD you'll hardly notice though
>>54750701
>This game
>AAA
>>54750717
>paleolithic era had dinosaurs from every other era, and giant, alien spires
Butthurt Rust player detected. Go ogle some swaying testes ya phag
>>54750748
I have one 4 GB RAM disk, the rest is just the regular things like steam and stuff.
>he doesn't do virtualization
>>54750783
>Butthurt Rust player detected. Go ogle some swaying testes ya phag
I don't even know what fucking game we're talking about you neckbearded hamplanet don't try to claim me as your own.
>>54750766
I thought the 10GB was referring to vRAM, disregard that I suck cocks.
>16GB is more than you will ever need
They said
>>54750742
Maybe for you right now. When I built my PC nearly 2yrs ago the cost of 16gb was £120 minimum.
That's $176 for you amerifags. At least prices are falling but u still don't use enough ram to justify spending anything yet.
>>54750826
$176 isn't even much, I spent $196 on my 32 GB laptop RAM a couple months ago and didn't bat an eye. Even the ssd I bought was more expensive at like $325
>>54750812
>Taakbeheer
Ahmed pls
>>54750860
>>54750826
32gb ram costs around $600 in india and we dont even earn that much (compared to dollars)
>fuck this shit
>>54750860
Do you not understand value? $196 for 32GB is much better than $176 for 16GB. For someone building a new setup a few months ago it would have been unwise to max out the RAM immediately unless it was absolutely necessary considering DDR4 prices are half what they were then.
>>54750860
Way more than it should be for something I don't /need/ but would be nice to have for that one time..
>196 for 32gb
Yeah you see that's twice the amount for just $20 more.
I did get a 240gb ssd for less than half the price of 16gb ram because it was a good deal and I actually did need one.
>>54750914
POO IN LOO SUPERPOOPER
>>54750975
You are funny mate
>>54750991
so is you sanitation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_peUxE_BKcU
Go to your designated shitting street
>>54751029
Yeah it also applies to me who is a upper middle class right?
I hear about using ram as disk, but what about using disks as ram? Like using 1 TB SSD as ram?
>>54751057
disks are a lot slower than RAM, and paging to disks has been around for a very long fucking time, mate
RAM disk speed here
>>54751057
lol
>>54751055
You're inhaling poo everyday, so yeah
>>54751076
>>54751057
fastest consumer ssd available here
>>54751055
Then buying some sticks of ram are no trouble right, Mr. Poo?
>>54751057
>>54751076
>>54751090
average mechanical 7200 RPM drive
Do you see now why using disks as RAM is not a very good idea?
2x4gb for 30$ on newegg right now, if you can stand gskills ugly sticks
>>54751087
you literally inhale poo every time you get a whiff of it
>>54751104
I wouldn't say it's not a good idea, when the alternative is running out of memory completely and the OS killing processes to stay alive. Obviously it's not preferable.
>>54751125
Yes, I agree. But it's not something you would set out to have happen on purpose. Ideally your RAM will match your use cases's workload.
Lets say your computer has 2x2 GB ram on it. You're running out of ram during games/workload.
What would be more efficient? Buying 2x8GB 16GB ram for ~$55 to replace the 2x2 GB ram
or
Buying a 240 GB SSD for $55 and then partitioning 40 GB for pagefile and other 200GB?
Would the speed of pagefile noticibly affect your performance compared to 16GB of ram?
>>54751109
we're talking about a place that have human faeces on every single inch of a street.
You wouldn't know fresh air if it hit you, as you bring the stink with you Apu
>>54750425
>UE4 used for babby's first game when there isn't even full proper documentation for the engine.
Ya done goofed sun.
>>54751182
RAM, paging to disk is never preferred.
>>54751208
But the question is, would there be a noticeable performance difference?
>>54751218
Yes you idiot /v/ child. Not even the access speed of an ssd will come close to the access speed of ram, any access to pagefile in comparison will be painfully slow.
>>54750425
You're using half your ram and 1 gb of ram
Is this a troll?
>>54751364
Its showing 4GB of GPU + 10 GB of his 16GB ram.
If he only had 8 GB of ram, it would be something like 4 GB of GPU + 6.5GB of RAM (1.5 being windows) and it wouldn't be able to run what he's running.
Problem OP is highlighting is the fact that, there are games that utilize more than 8GB. So the point of having only 8GB system ram limits some games.
>>54750685
WEED
Certain games stutter a little bit with just 8gb of RAM. I'm thinking of upgrading mine because so far I haven't seen any disadvantage to an upgrade.
32GB of RAM here. Running about 26GB usage. Don't know why.
Maybe because I FUCKING CAN
>>54750615
what PS1 game is this? look at all those jaggies
>>54750748
he probably has a massive ramdisk mounted.
>>54750425
I hate when developers think that covering their shitty work with badly optimized texturing and all kinds of postprocessing bullshit (show me a good-looking pic from that game where the sun isn't shitting all over everything in the scene) is OK. I hate when they also think that a memory leak is acceptable performance behavior and adjust their recommended settings to account for its existence instead of fixing it.
I don't know what faggotry is responsible for your pic, OP, but it's one or the other.
the baseline edition of windows 10 only supports up to 128GB of ram.
>>54750826
>When I built my PC nearly 2yrs ago the cost of 16gb was £120 minimum
Horse shit. I built a Z97 system in June 2014 and paid £50.74 for a 16GB kit.
>>54750615
Disgusting unreal engine
>>54750677
>internet arguments won
You are a fucking autistic dude.
>>54750425
>not jamming PCIE SSD's into your ram slots
It's like you actually want to do nothing
>>54750677
No, we use operating systems that manage RAM wisely and make your machine work for YOU, not Microshit.
>>54750650
I have been thinking about doing the for the last week, Do you know if it is possible to import an excisting installation in the vm?
>>54750677
See that ram bar? See that middle part that takes most of the 10g?
Thats prefetch, you can disable it in services.msc
Faggot
>>54752012
To be honest I don't have the slightest idea. Haven't even tried doing this currently, though I'm tempted. The issue is, I need certain software and I cannot be assed to install it several times because I want to experiment a little bit here and there.
>>54752029
um no, and also why would I disable it if it improves performance? Let me guess, you're some retarted Linux faggot
>>54751814
My 8gb kingston fury x was £60. Literally went in logical increments and ordered by price, it was the lowest non-shit tier DDR3 kit I could find.
My friend bough the same kit a few months later and it was like 35, I was pretty annoyed.
>>54752012
Yes, should be easy to do with dd or even just giving your VM access to the actual disk itself. Whenever I dual boot (rare) it's a hybrid system where I can boot on metal or in a VM. Last time I installed Gentoo on metal I was playing Mass Effect while it compiled
>>54752091
Oops, meant hyper x fury.
>>54752083
show us your "Computer" view in explorer, ballsauce swallower
>>54750677
>use GNU/Linux with GNOME
>5 open workapaces
>rendering a 4k wallpaper in blender
>shitposting on /g/ and having a few threads opened and prefetched on /gif/ with firefox
>having gimp running with a few patterns opened and the last minimal wallpaper i rendered
>3gb of ram usage
i wasted money on my 8gb of ram
>>54750812
>>54752029 < see here
>>54752083
You have to restart after applying it.. It even says standby when you mouse over it == it will be retasked if a program needs it
>>54752116
Literally there is nothing called that in Windows 10. I assume this is what you want.
>>54752141
Are you literally implying that I said anything about my cached memory being used? The 10 GB being used is actually being used, not cached. There's 17.2 GB cached, with 21.5 GB available. I seriously hope you don't think the only caching Windows does is superfetch
>>54752037
I want to do it quite bad, but the guides are pretty bad for debian..
>>54752163
You said people who can make do with lass than 10gb only use it for facebook, you use 10 and 4 of that is ram drive.
>implying 4gb is enough to install and use for something meningfull
it is not even in use? So what is it for facebook faggot?
>>54752166
Dude, the guide on the debian wiki is pretty good, also every guide works for any distro.
>>54750763
>using a computer for leisure
>browsing 4chan on said comp
Off yourself
>>54752220
https://wiki.debian.org/VGAPassthrough
>how have i not found this?
Thanks man! Now I just need to google how to give the vm access to 2 physical drives
>>54752212
I'm not even using my computer right now, just posting on facebook.
Oh look, I opened a single game and now even without the ram disk I'm over 8 GB used. 8 simply ain't enough here in the year 2016.
You'll also take note I've only got 2 tabs open in my browser and no vms running whatsoever
I can't believe people will defend having miniscule amounts of ram
>>54750677
fuck off back to >>>/g/bst
fucking tripcunt
>>54752279
Is that doom running in the background?
Also >implying ophra (aka chrome) does not use more ram the more you have
If you use more than 4gig with nothing special running there is something wrong with your pc
>>54752141
That is me runnig a handfull of tabs and some background stuff
>>54750425
Good thing the bloom is so heavy. Those normal maps look straight out of 2005 and I prefer being blind than looking at that shit.
>>54752352
please don't mind this post
I thought this was /b/
>>54752355
Yes doom is running, to show the poster above that 8 GB isn't enough RAM. The poster above had made the claim that I was using under 8 GB RAM if I wasn't using a RAM disk. This was my response - if I launch any sort of demanding application at all I quickly go over 8. At the moment I don't have any VMs since I did a reinstall of Windows but whenever I need them and copy them back over from backup I easily top 20 GB usage.
It's so funny that you peons think 8 cuts it today unless you literally do nothing on your computer
>using Shitdows 10 as some sort of an argument you need 16Gs of RAM or more
LMAO
Let me give you hint why you're retarded - Microsoft got "inspired" by Androids memory management around the time they were making this pile of puke you're using as an OS.
If you're too retarded to get the hint - of course it's filling up your RAM. IT'S FUCKING SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. IT'S ACTIVELY TRYING TO FILL ALL YOUR RAM.
>>54752416
well, tbqh I run 16gb on my computer with a 4gb ramdisk and not only do I almost never top 8gb while gaming + ramdisk, I've literally never seen it get anywhere near 10gb usage, even with my windows XP VM running as well.
Why don't you show us what processes are using so much memory? Or, failing that, explain to me what else is using so much? My machine isn't laggy, and I didn't do anything special to my RAM usage settings in order to get much lower RAM usage, so I'm very, very confused about your deviant setup.
Basically, I think you're doing something horribly wrong with your machine.
>>54752416
Both of those posts were me, but okay.
For gaming/general coding/above facebook stuff, 8gb can be more than enough, if you run ARK like OP at setting so high that it uses 10gb ram then buying more than 8gb is not breaking a sweat. Also if you are running vm(s) then 16gb kinda okay but 32gb is the way to go, we totally aggree there.
>>54750736
15.6 exabytes is theoretical ram limit of a 64bit address space, many desktop pcs only have 48bit anyway, despite being a 64bit cpu architecture.
iirc.
But the sentiment is agreeable. Tfw.
>>54752506
here you go, mate
>>54751090
What ssd?
>>54752559
I really don't think that came out right, lemme just post one not using the scrolling feature of sharex
>>54752585
Samsung 950 Pro, I didn't do any research to see if it's actually the fastest single consumer ssd but it's up there if not.
>>54752605
It has only just been toped off by
http://www.kitguru.net/components/simon-crisp/toshiba-ocz-rd400-nvme-pcie-ssd-512gb-review/4/
But a hell of a ssd either way
>>54752559
haha, well, that does help answer a lot.
You have some mighty big Opera tabs open there; I have about a dozen open on the machine I'm using right now (Windows 7 Enterprise) and my opera totals less than 350mb.
You also have the following services running concurrently, which I personally find quite impressive and more than a little wasteful:
- Uplay
- Battle.net
- Origin
- Steam
- RazerSynapse
- AlienwareTactXMacroController
- Gamescannerservice
- SBRcni
I forgive you everything, though, because you're using SoftPerfect RAMDisk, mah nigga
>2011 Macbook Pro running like crap
>format HDD and reinstall OSX and Windows(manually not shitty ass Bootcamp)
>Upgrade from 4GB to 16GB RAM for $55
>tfw no more issues have LoL, Chrome, and Itunes open anymore
>Computer more quiet than it has ever been for years(presumably due to less strain on the system)
Holy fuck, I have no idea why I didn't do this earlier. Gonna get a new computer, might just get a low size SSD and make it my dedicated entertainment centre.
>mfw best buy employee tried to convince me that 8GB was the maximum RAM that could be installed
>>54752714
A Best Buy employee tried to convince me 128GB of RAM was overkill for gaming. They don't really know what they're talking about.
>>54752714
well 8 was the most they were sold with, so it's an understandable mistake
>>54750742
Poorfag here, I can afford dat shit.
>>54752083
>Linux faggot
>Giving windows advice
The only advice for Windows users is to kill themselves.
>>54752680
I know what I'm going to replace my SM951s with now
>using native M.2 ports
>not having superior add-in boards with options to mount a heatsink
Suck it, Linuscucks
>>54752118
>TFW YOU FELL FOR THE 8GiB RAM MEME
>>54752680
Doesn't have my Samsung Pro 10 year warranty though.
>>54752476
Unused RAM is wasted RAM, Arch and some other distros will actively fill up your RAM.
Just got it OCed to 4.5Ghz.
>>54750425
I used 8gbs of ram for 2 years, never had a problem
I just recently added another 8gbs when my ram was on sale for like 25 bucks
>>54752912
"only" 5 years, thats true
>>54750617
Some shitty Steam Early Access #4234
>>54752921
That's why I'm still using Windows 7.
I don't want my professional apps to get slow because the fucking OS is allocating memory for shit I'm not using.
And as for GNU
>OS for kids, nigs and casuals
No need to say anything more.
>>54750673
>16 + 2000
>1pb ram
>not having quantum ram than exists in 12 dimensions at once.
>>54751192
You've never been to India have you?
>>54752972
Meh, Windows 10 runs great even on a sandy-bridge laptop with 4GB of RAM.
>>54751076
Why is your ramdisk so slow
>>54752968
We're looking at 1TB NVMe drives at mainstream prices (sub $100) within those five years, especially if the Micron-Intel thing turns out to be a market disruptor in the SSD market
Since I'm one of the few who will actually make full use of these SSDs in a production environment, I can say that I'll probably wear out those drives as much as I can before upgrading
Also
>Revodrive 350 has better writes and IOPs than the SM951
Man, I feel like I've wasted my money on Samshits for the last time.
>>54753100
When you sub 100$ crash and burn I'll be here with my Samsung Pros laughing my ass off at your impotent rage on /g/.
Like pretty much every cheapass scheme you retards buy into really.
There is only one reason for something to get this cheap this fast, especially in the storage market which is going strong regardless of the PC going RIP and that's because the manufacturers don't want people to make a fuss when their shit fails.
>Oh well it only cost a 100$.
>>54753097
Idk lol u changed the size of the test to 500 MB tho
My ram is 2400 mhz DDR4 laptop ram for your consideration
>>54753284
Higher than 2600MHz frequencies can cause RAMdisk benchmark speeds to fall. Odd.
>>54753387
top lel
2105
>>54750425
bump
>tfw no 256gb 72 core x265 machine
brb stealing an esxi host from work
Who /12GB/ here?
4 GB here on my ThinkPad. All I do is browse with few tabs and edit text so it's holding up fine
>>54752997
This.
>>54750648
That is ARK
>>54751364
>RAM 10,431GB
ARK is way too heavy
>>54751756
ARK : Survival Evolved
>>54752997
>current year
>ram
>not having CPU with 10 Yottabytes of cache.
>b8ing
>replying to jordan
this board is dead, for the next three months at least
>tfw you fell for the 16gb meme twice
Feels doubly good.
>>54750677
my computer has 4GB of ram, and can run all of this shit with no problem? whats up with your setup mang?
>>54750425
I only have 256mb of ram on my nigarig pc that was in no way stolen.
>>54750615
>gorgeus lightning effects and environment
>shit character models, player models, UI and UI icons
every fucking time
>>54750425
>playing gaymes
>making threads about gayming outside /v/
Also according to your pic system is using only 4GB, so it's faaaar behind 8GB limit.
Sage goes into all fields
Who /4 gb/ master race?
>>54750425
Could you please fuck off back to >>>/v/?
Nobody cares about your gaymur fetishes you little underaged slut.
God damnit this board is turning into shit
>>54754912
>he can't figure out the difference between the GPU memory and the RAM
>>54750677
Jordan, why are you still alive?
I thought you've committed suicide.
In that case please do.
>>54754934
anyway
>>>/v/
Stop making threads about games on /g/ you retarded tripshit.
>>54750425
True if you are a gaymer. Noticed that a lot of games used more than 8GB after I upgraded to 16
>>54754950
>le vedeo gaymes are Bad maymay
>>54754980
just because a game can use more than 8GB doesn't mean it requires 8GB, not even 6GB.
These retards are made by brainless incompetent cunts.
>>54752559
>battke.net
>opera
>opera
>opera
>uplay
>vmware
>origin
>steam
>steamwebhelper
>steamwebhelper
why would you run all that at the same time?
>>54755017
Did you fully optimize your fizzbuzz game yet?
>>54755016
games belongs to a dedicated containment board >>>/v/
You're breaking the rules by now and you deserve being b&
>>54755052
>RAM is somehow a video game
>>54755033
Read my post again you retarded nigger.
I'm not talking about optimization, I'm talking about excessive memory use when more than 8GB is present
I thought 8 gee bees was good? How much more do I need? 11? 13?
>>54755093
>immediately insults
I love the fucking butthurt a thread about video games creates on /g/. Truly pathetic.
>>54755132
you don't
>>54755132
21,53GB
meant to post this on /v/, sorry guys
mods kill yourselves
>>54755163
Nice false flag
>>54750425
All this plebs not having 1TB of ram
>>54755137
>missing the point
Typical.
You're more stupid than you look.
>>54755197
>much elitism
>>54750425
Whaaaaaat??? You don't have 4 bits of ram?
>>54753054
Imagine landing a plane on a huge pile of shit
>>54754940
It's hard to kill a God
test
>>54755476
the proxy is working!
>>54754613
>current year
>my ram has ram
it's like you guys live in the past or something
Finally thread that is pure /g/ and doesn't reek of reddit.
>>54755470
I don't think anyone godly has such a small dick as this faggot has.
>>54750425
It is more than enough.
See: http://www.techspot.com/article/1043-8gb-vs-16gb-ram/page3.html
Notice how when games use over 8GB of RAM, the performance is still almost exactly the same?
That's because RAM is used for caching, so even if your RAM is filled up to the max, it doesn't even affect performance. Only when it gets really bad, with a ton of RAM in concurrent use, then you should upgrade.
At this point though, almost nothing uses enough to have more than 8GB.
>>54754613
Quantum fuck that shit for 2017. Hexarape in 2018. Being this square.
>>54755492
you're not very bright are you
>>54755593
>2017, 2018
>not attaining nirvana, dying and transferring your consciousness to another dimension of existence
>being this unenlightened
>>54755653
It's cute that you think enlightenment, zen, or nirvana are anywhere near the level I'm at.
>>54752835
same here.
>>54755686
I'm calling your bluff fäm.
>>54752559
>DRM
>DRM
>Botnet
>Bloatware
>DRM
>Botnet
>Botnet
Holy shit, just get the fuck out of this board.
>>54755759
Hey that picture didn't come out right, a lot of things got repeated.
My software choice is actually just fine.
>>54755587
But what about having multiple desktops and obviously just having a multitude of things needing to be kept open? I obviously think 8 gigs is fine for something like a laptop, but for a primary station, absolutely not.. Not if you need a a heavy-duty task machine
>>54750748
The more RAM you have the more RAM is available for Windows to cache stuff for you.
>>54755533
Moot?
>>54755686
>I bomb atomically
>Socrates philosophies and hypothesis can't define how i be dropping these.
>>54755834
Kyle?
>>54755844
Hell yeah
If I were God I'd get a bunch of slaves to do everything
Norwegian lesbians that feed me grapes and know how to sing
>There are people who said that the 970's 3.5/4 was good enough, that 4 was fine
>When Fury X released, 4 was no longer acceptable, only 6+
>>54755847
John?
>>54755834
who?
go back to /v/ you fucking permavirgin gamer autist
>>54750425
minecraft has never been optimized
>He doesn't use 256mb of ram
>>54755882
Dad?
>>54755999
Alice?
>>54756040
I'm pregnant.
