I'm ready to get torn a new asshole by you guys:
>Grew up poor but always loved computers
>went into the marines as soon as I was 18
>had no time for computers or gaming fit for the 4 years I was in
>now that that I'm out I want to get into computers
Is this a good start if I want to play games?
If not, can you recommend me a better "rig" for under $1,000?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/AMD-FX-8350-4-0GHz-8-CORE-16GB-1TB-HDD-NVIDIA-GTX-970-GAMING-DESKTOP-COMPUTER-/262409924297?nav=SEARCH
>>54698430
A fool and his money are soon parted.
>>54698430
Your post sounds honest OP, so let me give you some tips:
1. dont buy AMD
2. never ask /g/ for computer advice because theyll simply spout memes at you about stuff (see 1 although that one is true)
3. go here instead which will give you better advice reddit /r/buildapc with less smarmy comments
>>54698430
The best way to get into computers is to build your own.
>>54698430
>>54698472
er by "here" I ment reddit /r/buildapc
>>54698484
>here
go back to there.
>>54698478
This anon is right.
Building PC isn't much harder than assembling a Lego. General rule: if it's not fitting without applying force, it doesn't belong in this slot.
It has a bad PSU and a motherboard that is a sheep in wolf clothing, it can literally go up in flames with a decent overclock and it has a FX 8350 which is a poor choice.
>>54698489
I ment to say "go here blah blah: [link]" but im retarded because its midnight.
does it bother you that I browse both? wait dont answer, because I couldnt care less what you have to say
>>54698472
just listen to this anon honestly
don't buy AMD and go to /r/buildapc, you won't really get any better reply than this on /g/
the one you linked isn't completely awful apart from the CPU and probably PSU, so you can use it as a decent point of reference
>>54698430
Hey marine, don't you have crayons to eat?
Joking aside, that machine is kind of outdated. If you can get by in one monitor, and want cheap, the Alienware Alpha/Steam Machine does well enough for 1080p.
The 970 is also a hard sell with the 1070 here (or on its way?). Do you have a monitor already?
If it were me, I'd pick up a Dell precision t1700 and throw a new power supply, ssd, and maybe a gtx960 or 1070 or something in it and be done. But it's your money, so do get what makes you happy.
>went into the marines as soon as I was 18
You don't go into the marines like that. But ok whatever helps soothe the pain of being a fat neckbeard with no life like the rest of us.
If you want a pre-built that isn't total shit this might work
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B012OU6FP2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1463988671&sr=1-1&refinements=p_n_condition-type%3A2224371011%2Cp_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A14130102011%7C5446818011%7C5446817011%7C5446816011%7C5446815011%7C7817230011%7C5446813011%7C5446812011%7C562241011%2Cp_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A13580787011%7C13580788011%7C13580789011%7C13580790011%2Cp_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A3012495011%7C3012497011%7C3012498011%7C9659357011%2Cp_n_graphics_type_browse-bin%3A14292273011%2Cp_72%3A1248879011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289793011&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65
Anyone know why amazons urls are totally fucked?
>>54698484
After 9 years of conditioning of my mind being conditioned by 4chan, it's very hard for me to browse reddit. I know they can be super helpful but holy fuck they're legit faggots. All they care about is upvotes. I suppose I can give it a try. I know building a pc is always the poplar opinion here but buying something and using it out of the box sounds the most convenient. I'll probably end up building something because that's all I ever see people tell one another here.
>>54698535
You just fried my brain. I suppose if I get that model, go on newegg and get the parts you mentioned, watch how to videos, I'll be better off?
>>54698430
HEY JARHEAD
http://pcpartpicker.com/
http://pcpartpicker.com/
http://pcpartpicker.com/
GET YOUR ASS IN GEAR
And don't fucking buy AMD right now, Zen is coming out for AMD.
>>54698569
Just read the sticky. Go to logical increments website
>>54698544
The fuck are you on about? How else does anyone join? I mean I did have a 26 year old man in my boot camp platoon by he was in the army before that and going through usmc boot camp is required for any prior service branch who wishes to join the marines.
>>54698580
Possible, but again, it's up to you. If this thread is still alive when I get home, I'll pull out my list and post it.
>>54698591
were you infantry
>>54698569
Holy shit I need to learn to proof read. Kill me now.
I'll do that though. Probably the most sound advice.
>>54698601
Yes. 3/5. I was part of the spring offensive in marjah Afghanistan 2010.
>>54698602
if you can field strip a gun you can assemble a computer, it's not like a submarine
>>54698582
I'll bookmark it. God damn do I have a lot to learn. All I know about computers is how to install extensions on web browsers. I have a lot to learn.
>>54698617
Is it like sex when you build a pc? Anyone who's cleaned their rifle after a firing range knows it's almost like sex.
>>54698623
do you want examples of how not to do it
>>54698569
You dont have to like the place or stay there, just use them for what you need and get out. if it makes you feel better, you are getting something from them and giving nothing back. "a win for a 4chin user hurray" or whatever bullshit you want to say to yourself.
convenient yes but if you want to stay up to date with things, in the long run itll be better to learn to build one/exchange parts. part of being a pc gamer is knowing your machine and maintaining if yourself. live in socal? ill help you out as a fellow marine.
>>54698584
also as this anon recommended www.logicalincrements.com
>>54698617
also this. put part A in slot B
>>54698623
Oh and pirating. I'm pretty good at that.
>>54698636
more like trying to safely detonate a landmine with a stick, a very short stick
are you worried yet
>>54698640
I was stationed in Pendleton but I'm back in AZ. I'm on that sub Reddit and literally everyone just sucks each other off god damn. But they do want to help. I give them that much.
>>54698639
I'm sure everyone here has seen this a lot but how fucking... Stupid. Just fucking stupid.
>>54698664
neat. I was a "weekend warrior" at 4th LAR in Pendleton until we got sent to afghan where I became a man (not really, I didnt run into shit myself but our battalion did lose a few bros to fucking sand monkeys)
and yes, you described reddit just now
>>54698563
Everyone says that windows 10 is bullshit and I do have privacy concerns...
>>54698708
you're gaming, and linux is still in its teething phase with gaming, so you're going to have to dual boot with a linux distro for daily driver use and windows 10 for just gaming
>>54698708
its not bullshit (besides the force upgrading). youll need it for better gaming and newer technology. but yes it does invade your privacy worse than the NSA. you can find programs to disable all the privacy breeching shit.
you can disable/change any other things you dont like....just like you could on every other OS previously.
or just use your gaming pc for only gaming and use a laptop for everything else. or buy two computers you have more than enough money (unless you are a complete idiot who spent it all already)
>>54698708
Dual booting is pretty damn easy. You can find video tutorials online. I use Windows for games and Ubuntu for everything else
>>54698430
>and processor
Yea go ahead OP what could go wrong?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sHrxFd
Alright OP, listen up. If you were really a marine you should know that letting someone else make decisions for you is the worst idea ever. That's essentially what buying a prebuilt is.
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
You want to familiarize yourself with the latest parts, I'll give you a quick rundown because I love you and you're worth it.
CPU is the brain, you want a decent one, but not too good since that shit costs money. Intel i5 is a good standard for gaming. There's two major kinds, K and standard. K models can be overclocked, but cost more and require a special board. Not going K is known as leaving money on the table, because overclocking is price:performance incarnate. AMD CPUs are worthless for gaming, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
CPU cooler cools the CPU. Watercooling is a meme, get a large piece of metal with a fan on it. Noctua is quiet but quality, Cryorig is cheapish but quality, Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo is the cheap meme. It just works.
Motherboard, you want something compatible with your CPU, Zxxx if you're overclocking, Hxxx otherwise. Read the fucking reviews. Don't get suckered into spending too much on it.
Memory, or RAM, is RAM. Get the cheapest 16 GB you can. Speed doesn't even matter, just overclock that shit if you were smart and got a real CPU and mobo.
As for storage you want an SSD for your OS and geimus and a HDD for your porn and movies and shitposting materiel. Samsung 850 Evo is the recommended SSD brand, HDD doesn't really matter much, I personally suggest a Seagate Barracuda 2TB, just don't get a 3TB anything ever, it WILL die faster.
Video card is the most important choice for gaymen. Nvidia and AMD are both fine, don't fall for the memes. gpu.userbenchmark.com is decent, don't trust the prices or value rating on it though. Nvidia and AMD are both releasing new lines soon. 10xx Pascal and R9 4xx Polaris. Wait for them, it's worth it.
1/2
>>54698870
2/2
Case doesn't really matter, just don't get absolute garbage or you'll have to modify it to make it work. If the deal seems to good to be true, it is. Read the fucking reviews.
Power supply is important, get a modular EVGA or Seasonic. Fuck everything else. PCPartpicker will hold your hand as far as how powerful it needs to be.
Don't buy an operating system through PCPartpicker. Either pirate it like a normal, functional person, or get a key for $30. Install via USB, no need to waste money on an optical drive.
Good luck.
>>54698892
>no need to waste money on an optical drive.
fuck that
I got close to a terabyte's worth of pirated media written to dvds, and I don't just mean movies
the most annoying thing about a disc drive isn't how fucking slow it reads, it's how fucking noisy it can be
>>54698743
I'll just get a laptop for web browsing. Great idea.
>>54698430
That's actually not a bad deal for those specific components.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/p3j48K
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/p3j48K/by_merchant/
CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A SLI Krait Edition ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($85.92 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Thermaltake TR2 600W ATX Power Supply ($45.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) ($138.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $877.53
I added the 212 Evo since I can't remember if the 8350 comes with a cooler (it probably does but not as good).
Some of the parts aren't the greatest however. The Krait is pretty cheap as far as motherboards go, you could get cheaper RAM that's just as good, and the power supply especially isn't great, not even 80+ certified or Active PFC which is pretty bad by today's standards. It'll probably work fine though.
The 8350 will give you roughly modern i5 performance in things that are properly multi-threaded, and the 970 is alright for gaming at 1080p in most things. Keep in mind new Nvidia GPUs drop in a couple weeks, so it's already outdated. Also new Intel stuff uses DDR4 now, so you're basically a generation behind all around with this system (not that you're going to see some amazing performance bump from the new stuff, just something to think about if you want the latest and greatest to get the most longevity out of things).
>>54698864
If you can spoonfeed me one last time and possibly link me a decent how to video, that'd be awesome.
>>54698967
>things that are properly multi-threaded
>video games
Pick one.
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
Most of this has already been said in the thread, but can't hurt to post.
>>54698892
I really was a marine. No need to lie. Just thought I would mention it in hopes of softening the assault I was going to get when a /g/ newb came to post a thread that probably gets posted 200x a day. And including your post, it seems like everyone here agrees that pc part picker or go home. Thank you for that run down. It's a lot to consider.
>>54698967
How often does new shit drop like this? I already hate the fact that I feel obligated to update my phone every new model that comes out for very small marginal gains. I want to have the new nvidia gpu but if cost does not make up for the performance then I suppose I'll skip it and just get to getting a rig to start building. Thanks for that list, I'll be comparing it with the other one some anon posted here and go from there.
>>54698967
>buying AMD CPUs when Zen is around the corner
no
>>54698970
I don't know any how-to videos, what you need to look up is thermal paste application, that's the only annoying part, chart related
if you want to see how not to apply thermal paste, look up MSI, somebody made a webm of an intern fucking it up
the noctua dh-15 comes with decent paste, so you don't need to buy separate
also, don't be scared of creaky noises when pushing the lever lock over the CPU the first time
>>54699030
/g/ loves the military, since most of us were fucking idiots and didn't care about school through high school for one reason or another and needed somewhere to go.
>>54699030
>How often does new shit drop like this?
every five years or so, we're entering the beginning of another shakeup thanks to AMD's Zen
>>54699033
Thermal paste? Fuck me I have a lot to learn. But considering I feel like I've missed out on buying a rig and really planting my feet into the hobby, I have to start somewhere.
>>54699055
Well it's meant to be. I expected to get my ass handed to me and I thought just like every thread, I was going to have yo dig for the good information. It's not the case here. Is there many success stories on here from people building their first rig? Is that a daily thread or what? "Muh first rig..."
>>54699030
Well we were using DDR3 for about 5 years, so DDR4 should be the standard for a while, Intel likes to try and drop new CPUs every year or so, but honestly even their CPUs from 5 years ago are fine (if you hang around you'll see plenty of "Sandy Bridge 4 Lyfe" posts). Basically Intel has hit the performance wall and they're only working on power efficiency now, so it's an ideal time to go with them. AMD is trying to catch up on IPC (basically single-thread performance) which is why everyone is saying to wait for Zen.
My personal advice if you're willing to build yourself is go for the best intel system you can right now and you should be set for basically the foreseeable future. I'm sure someone will figure out some new tech that gives us more performance, but literally nobody knows where to start right now, so it's not unreasonable to assume the fastest shit right now will be more or less the fastest shit for the next 5 years again. If you can afford it (probably not for under 1k) X99 is the platform I recently built on, and it's not a bad idea since they can use Xeon CPUs and the new Broadwell-E CPUs that are coming out. It's more expensive but you have more upgrade options if things go from single-thread performance to a zillion cores. Even if you don't though, you'll probably be fine.
Godspeed Anon and thanks for your service.
>>54699075
you can always go into the guts threads and check out what the insides of other anons PCs look like
>>54699030
Also that list was just the parts in the eBay listing to give you an idea how much they cost to build yourself.
>>54699075
Most HSFs (HeatSinkFans aka CPU coolers) come with thermal paste. As you can see, mayo works so don't worry about it too much. Just put a tiny dot the size of a grain of rice in the middle of the conductive plate and you're golden.
>>54699101
Muh first rig not so much, but clueless idiots posting terrible partslists followed by a bunch of question marks is more than common. Post it in the /sqt/ if this thread isn't up when you have one, people there usually want to help and won't just spam >>>/v/.
>>54699101
pcpartpicker threads crop up from time to time, and the guts thread is always useful for what to do/not to do, and then there's the stupid questions thread
>>54699125
Did somebody say Sandy Bridge?
>>54699125
Picture of your rig?
But that makes a lot of sense and that was pretty much what I thought. But I feel like I'm a shit head if I don't have the latest. It's another reason why I haven't started to get into the hobby until I had good money. I could afford that but I just felt $1000 would be good for a starting rig just to get my feet wet and not to want to kill myself if I fuck something up.
>>54699143
>Just put a tiny dot the size of a grain of rice in the middle of the conductive plate and you're golden.
>tiny dot
Nah. More like a dot that's 25% the total area of the CPU. Let the heatsink smoosh it into spreading.
>>54698451
>>54699160
>tfw you missed out on the greatest CPU ever
>>54699177
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyXLu1Ms-q4
>>54699137
Right. But I will consider that as compared to another similar post. Just comparing an contrasting. I had no idea that amd was frowned upon.
why does everyone say building with AMD is a bad choice? with what in mind?
explain yourselves you niggers.
>>54699175
>felt $1000 would be good for a starting rig
$1000 is perfectly fine for a PC that will last you several years, with the only thing you'll have to upgrade within 5 years is the GPU.
I'm waiting for HBM2 to become standard so I'm fine with what I have right now.
>>54699244
AMD CPU for gaming is fool's gold.
GPU choice is some sort of crazy brand loyalty war I doubt the participants even understand anymore.
>>54699256
Vega soon, fellow waitfag.
>>54698430
That's a solid rig for that price, building something comparible even in PC part picker is tough for the same price.
The worst part of that build is the CPU and the ram is a bit slow. For gaming purposes it will be good though.
Honestly I would say go for it and buy. You wont find anything in that price range that will outperform it drastically.
>>54699244
why buy AMD now when you can wait for Zen
>>54699175
Sure. Sorry for shit camera. Specs as follows:
CPU: Core i7 5820K
RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-2400
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-SLI
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 ACX (Gonna buy a 1080 probably)
Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX
Case: Corsair Carbide 400C
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB + Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
Shitty blinkenlights: NZXT Hue+
Storage and GPU were hold-overs from my old system I've spent about 1k on this system already so you can see how quick you can go over that amount on a new one. Like I said tho, even a Skylake build should be fine. Just you'll more likely need to buy a new motherboard again next time you upgrade the CPU.
>>54699256
why didn't you crop it, fucking neet ricefag
>>54699269
It's not a solid rig. Terrible case and questionable power supply, you don't know what it's been through.
>>54699275
>Rainbow unicorn litebrite LEDs
Intothetrash.meme
>>54699275
Forgot PSU: EVGA Supernova P2 650W 80+ Platinum
I basically went all out honestly. I do 3D work and fuck around in Unreal Engine 4 a lot so I wanted something geared for that.
>>54699275
That's fucking sexy. Thank you for posting. I swear to god I used to dream of having a build like this when I was in Afghanistan. That picture got me motivated as fuck.
>>54699276
>>54699320
Well I want to start doing video editing as my main hobby. I've also dreamed of making a YouTube channel for retro video games in a comedic way (kill me now) but I know you have to have a nice build to edit video.
>>54699321
Don't fall for the windowed case, you don't need a window in your case. Pic related is more along the lines of what you really need.
>>54699217
Hell yeah put mine in an x shape for XTREME temp reduction
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cPG32R
Something else to chew on. Not my best work but I'm tired and just threw something together so you can have a few things to work off of.
>>54699033
>>54699272
o-only 5-6 more months until Zen comes out and we can start telling people to wait for the next thing
damn it feels good to be a waitfag
>>54699349
I love window cases though. Something about being able to see the guts turns me on. But I've always liked shit like that. Like those old phones that's in the clear shell or a few tub televisions where you can see the insides as well I don't know why but I've been getting off to that shit since I was young and first saw pic related.
OP buy this (it is much better than the above one) and put it together yourself (it will be easy)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tRyp9W
If you don't like the white case you can change it to a corsair 200r or just pick the black verison of the case.
You can thank me later and inb4 fags here bitch at me for picking windows 10 for you.
>>54699385
You like it because it feels futuristic and very punk.
>>54699343
As long as you're not editing 4K even a solid gaming build with a good CPU and 16GB of RAM will be fine, but if you want to specialize then yeah more RAM and fast storage is important. IIRC just about any modern GPU is good enough for GPU-accelerated rendering. I think LinusTechTips (inb4 rage) did a test and found that there was basically no difference between a cheap $150 GPU and a $700 GPU for that stuff.
>>54699360
Lmao
>>54699375
Thank you. I'm taking everyone who wishes to help me help/recommendations into consideration. I'll definitely look at this when I'm done comparing another one that was already posted.
>>54699260
you're not explaining anything, just giving retarded sounding opinions.
>>54699272
because some people actually need a computer now?
>>54699402
93.89 dollarydoos for an operating system? fuck that
h110 mobo that can't overclock? fuck that
>>54699402
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cPG32R
>>54699375
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cPG32R
These two are solid excluding the barracuda which is a horrible unreliable piece of shit hard drive.
R9 380 and i5 4690k, 8gb of ddr3 and a z97 atx mobo with an nzxt s340 case + a 630w psu from thermaltake ur done
Thermaltake Smart SE 630w
>inb4 thats a bad psu
Powered my fucking Fury X and i7 6700k for months playing games at 4k
>>54699417
You really think a new PC builder is going to waste his time pirating a copy of windows? The guy just wants a basic build that will be easy to set up and game with. Not everybody here is a meme loving linux pirating windows douchebag.
Also I didn't know the h110 couldn't overclock but if your budget is under 1000$ don't expect a very good motherboard because even the ones that can OC are still pieces of shit in that price range.
>>54699385
I feel you man, here's my old guts from my first build. I went for the "Windows are for man-children" route and didn't give a shit about the internals. It worked well but every time I cracked it open it just made me kinda sad. Now I look at the new one and it just makes me feel happy, and that's the important thing.
>>54699472
I can pirate decently but pirating an operating system does seem like the last thing I want to do right now. Even though I'm sure it works just fine to do it that way, it's one of those things where I will feel it's not authentic and if anything were to go wrong software wise id bland it on my pirated OS
>>54699473
Yeah man that looks sexy too. Why would you want to hide that shit? That's a shame. It might be for man children but that's one thing I'll gladly accept if it means I have a window.
>>54699508
I don't know wtf I was trying to say by, "I can pirate decently..."
>>54699508
R9 390>GTX 970
8GB of ram will be enough
Final build for you OP take it or leave it, you won't get anything better.
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yW7Ycc
>>54699472
>You really think a new PC builder is going to waste his time pirating a copy of windows?
Yes.
Because that's what I did the first time.
>>54699436
There is literally nothing wrong with the average Barracuda. There was a large, defective line of 3TB Barracudas which gave them a bad name. Under no circumstances should you buy one, as the supply is still tainted.
>>54699536
This is insanely good, but the lack of a SSD is a bit of a downer, especially if you plan to do VR. That being said, you can always pick one up later.
>>54699528
Eh, I didn't like the non-painted case interior and lack of grommeted holes, also none of the colors matched. Blue motherboard, Red RAM, Silver PSU with a purple sticker, and Black & Gunmetal GPU. I'm a big fan of color-themed internals. Back then it was more difficult, these days most places go with Black + Red/Blue/Yellow/White stuff so it was easy to find parts that matched that were just as good and just as cheap, so I went for matching colors where I could.
>>54699508
Just install unactivated Win7 pro and use PicoKMS or VSLT. It will be the same as a corporate-activated installation.
>>54699586
Actually there is a lot wrong with the Barracuda. From my own personal experience they have failed on me every time. My 1TB after 2 years of heavy use, my 2TB after 1 year of mild use. The drives are not designed for any sort of good solid use, they are made with cheap parts unreliable parts.
Western digital is the way to go, preferably black if you got the money. The lack of SSD is sad but the money saved goes to better parts, which is the problem with low budget builds but you take what you can get. Also SSD isn't that big of a performance outside of boot times for OS and some load times in some games.
>>54699625
>Actually there is a lot wrong with the Barracuda. From my own personal experience
Bruh.
>load times in some games.
Precisely why I mentioned VR. Nothing like an infinite black void to ruin your immersion.
>>54699593
You're being too critical. But I can understand your want for color matching.
>>54699536
Ok, I looked at the others now I'll thoroughly look at this one.
Oh, vr is definitely I want to do here in a year or so once they can figure how to make games that don't force you into a confined area. And fuck that "teleporting" method.
>>54699603
Can you explain "use picokmd" I'd like to think I have a good understanding on how to pirate shit but I haven't ever heard of picokmd or how to use it. Sorry, don't go in without using lube.
Would you be willing to build your own computer? Its the best way to get performance and value. 90% of it is pretty easy to do, plugging the right part in the right slot, with the most difficult element being the CPU cooler installation, but most people can manage that.
If you're interested in building your own PCs and gaming, I suggest checking out the hardware enthusiast forums and videos. HardOCP is one of the most respected, and their HardForum has some of the best info and helpful users around. XtremeSystems is great, but like its name mentions, is mostly for well.. high end custom water cooling and the like. Overclock.net forums is another worthwhile site, much like HardForum - both have manufacturers of computer gear send reps to talk to enthusiasts at these places, even. I hear LinusTechTips is a good video series and community, but I haven't gone there much so I can't say for certain. There are also some Reddit site subreddits such as pcgaming , buildapc, and more.
When it comes to choosing parts for your rig, you may want to try www.pcpartpicker.com and pchound.com . Both sites allow you to plan out your build, pricing it and showing what kind of things work together.
If you're willing to build, we can definitely get you something for under $1000 that will have you gaming well (assuming you already have a monitor, mouse and keyboard). Getting a good monitor is a nice upgrade and they last a long time, but let us know if you'll need those as well, as most people talk about a rig means "The stuff that goes in the case".
>>54699746
There's a corporate way of activation: it queries the license over the network. PicoKMS is a fake activation server which runs locally. It's like
> Fuck, am I activated?
> Where's the server? Ah, 127.0.0.1!
> Hello, KMS Server! Am I activated?
> Yeah, bro, sure, info 100%, now please fuck off
every 30 days. In full auto.
>>54699603
Right now, upgrades to Win10 are free. There are people on hardware forums selling legit copies of Windows 7 x64 Professional or Ultimate for like $20 or so. Most of them are from businesses and whatnot. These can be updated for free to Win10 Pro ; you don't even need to install Win7 anymore , as Microsoft now lets you (if you have a new W10 install image) use the product key from Win 7, 8, or 8.1 etc directly.
Of course if you pirate, you can use Daz Loader or anything else that makes Win7 activate as authentic, and then upgrade to 10 and it will maintain as an authentic upgrade!
I truly appreciate everyone's feedback. Im considering it all and going from them. I'll keep the thread up just in case anyone wants to come in with their 2 cents.
>>54699773
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/65739-KMSpico-Official-Thread
Here's the download link. They require registration, by the way.
>>54700029
If you'll need help, you can drop an email to [email protected].
>>54699948
You're welcome. Here are a few little tidbits...
If you go to some of those hardware forums I mentioned earlier (ie HardForum.com, Overclock.net etc), they have For Sale / Want To Buy subforums and whatnot, where fellow enthusiasts can sell their old hardware. Most people can't start selling until they have a certain amount of posts, time on the forum etc... (subreddits for hardware sales and trade are popular too and have their own rules), but this is a GREAT way to get hardware at huge discounts, used by enthusiasts and therefore in good condition. To gain access to these communities, you should go and start a www.heatware.com account. HeatWare is an old website running for over a decade that basically acts kind of like an Ebay Feedback clearing house. You can put your forum names/sites etc.. and when you are going to buy or trade from someone, you can look up each other's Heatware and see that they have positive trades and you have positive trades etc. Its a great way to give and get peace of mind.
A few other little tips...
1. Most vendors don't push the earlier generation hardware to the side, so it helps to know which codenames/chipsets are current.
2. We're just about, on June 1st, to likely see the launch date of a fantastic price/performance GPU from AMD codenamed "Polaris 10". This will probably be the one to buy for your build, and will likely be named something like AMD "480X" or "490X"., for the best versions.
2. Brands matter; there isn't much abject crap today as there was a decade ago, but its worth it to stay with a handful of brands that are known for better than usual quality. Asus, MSI, and Gigabyte make great motherboards and AMD chip GPUs. If you are looking for an Nvidia GPU, EVGA , plus those above like Asus etc... are worth it. For MoBos I'd stay with Asus, and their ROG line of gaming/overclocking motherboards are probably the best around. Oops out of space..
>>54698430
a little oldschool and 2013 tech so nah its outdated as fuck
I'd recommend getting a used prebuilt with a i7 in it and learn from there.
Dont go all in on a custom rig unless you know what your doing any already have the tools.
Fuck i mean i took a break from builds since 2014 till now and even after 2 short years im getting my ass kicked so much to catch up on
and im 25 been tinkering since i was single digit.
Stay the fuck away from ebay
>>54699536
>worst aftermarket 390 cooler
>MSI
>Gigabyte low end model also is exactly the same
stay the fuck away its trash
>>54700089
That should be 3.... damn editing!
4. Especially if you bought a CPU that is overclocking friendly (ie making it run faster than it starts out running. This is a safe process today, if done well. Look to others on the forum to guide you. Its about putting in the proper settings in the BIOS / UEFI, and then checking the temperatures to make sure they're stable under stress), make sure you get a separate CPU cooler. I would highly suggest you buy an "AIO" All In One, liquid cooler like those by Corsair (or if you can afford it, Swiftech and EKWB make some of the best, but you don't want nearly $200 taken up just for cooling...). These are easier to install than headsinks with fans which are bulky and hard to seat on the processor as easily. OCing is a great way to get more performance out of your system, but only certain processors - for Intel, they usually have a "K" or "X" at the end of their model number - have a setting unlocked that makes possible/easy to do so.
>>54700137
>This is a safe process today, if done well.
Sorry as someone who's been overclocking since 386 days its still pretty hairy stuff.
if you fuck up and its easy with all these cheaper oc'able 'gaming' boards and shit intel chipsets with dodgy bios's you will kill your board first then your CPU and whatever else.
Took me ages to find faults in my setup the factory settings where retarded as fuck.
>>54700162
Sure, its possible to fuck things up but these days, if you watch the videos, read the forums, and use non-shit hardware its pretty unlikely.
Today you can easily overclock to near the max on air cooling or an AIO, without having to mess with voltages at all - the only thing that can end up doing real damage. Temp alone, so long as you don't do anything stupid like disable the auto overheat shutdowns (which there are some baked into the chip as well, so not even in the bios) , you won't zap anything.
but speaking of Zap....
5. POWER SUPPLIES ARE IMPORTANT. Did that case come with a power supply? Throw it away, its generally shit. Do not skimp on a shitty no name power supply. Most issues people have with their hardware early on comes down to a shitty power supply, insufficient power, or another issue (aside from just plain having a dead mobo, bad stick of RAM etc..). Buy a power supply from a reputable brand like Corsair or Seasonic, or (sometimes) EVGA, and pick their models that are "80 Plus" certified at "Silver" or better (preferably Gold, Platinum, or Titanium, though some can get pricey), for at least 750 watts for a general build. If you can afford it, I suggest 850 or more if you plan to have high end video cards, many hard drives etc... . Wattage is not everything, you need quality more than anything. If you can afford it, get a fully modular power supply that only requires you to plug in the cables you need to keep your case tidy and airflow nice. Don't skimp, as good power supply will last you a long time ands save you grief.
>>54700237
>POWER SUPPLIES ARE IMPORTANT
Completely agree
Also keep an eye on the voltages in the motherboard setup monitor or in windows (not as reliable) especially 12volt+ rails/rail
Ive had a 1kw psu blow up that cost $300+ 6 years ago only lasted 4 it was a pos silverstone or some such maybe a zalman idk.
Got any good brands to recommend for the noob i havent bought a psu in over 6 years still using a older 850w
>>54700237
>750W for a general build.
Uh, no. Depending on what you have, an average single GPU build can easily get away with 450W if you're using a quality PSU.
You only need 750W for dual GPU. Hell, with the new GPUs coming out with under 200W TDP you can practically go dual-GPU on a 650W these days. Entire systems only pull about 350W from the wall. The old 1000W enthusiast PSU meme was people using crappy chinese LED light PSUs that were actually over-rated 500W boxes, and crap old tech that was nothing like today's. All 80+ PSUs feature Active PFC so they help condition the power from the wall and make it nice and stable.
>>54700266
EVGA, Seasonic
>>54698722
What the fuck is this sorcery. Is that WINE or something?
>>54700407
Qemu+KVM+VT-d/IOMMU
Basically a virtual machine with full access to the GPU.
>>54699382
>damn it feels good to be a waitfag
>/g/ told me to wait to buy a 7950 because the 200 series was coming and they'd drop in price
>waited a bit
>kept getting told to wait
>fuck it I can't wait no more
>buy it, $190
>mfw bitcoin explosion happened and they literally doubled in price two weeks later
>>54698569
Are you tryna act like 4chan isnt full of faggots wholly obsessed with not being reddit
>durr lets make the community despise each other cause only those reddit faggots would get along and allow for questions to be answered and discussions to be thoughtful
>durr i literally can't just post a question on reddit and get a straight answer i prefer the bullshit circlejerk of self loathing on my precious, raw 4chan
