Prove Nvidia gimps AMD and older Nvidia GPUs.
Protip: You can't
>GPUs
>>>/v/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcF36_qMd8M
>>54685356
That guy has an annoying voice.
The Scottish guy is better.
>>54685338
>you bought a 780
polaris hurry the fuck up
>>54685273
>700 series
>Crysis/ Arkham Knight/ Gameworks/ Doom (probably)
/thread
>>54685316
what does that even mean? GPU is correct. A graphics processing unit is technology, and it's a damn sight more revalent than 10 year old laptops.
>>54685338
I wonder how many people jumped kepler ship. I sold my 770 first chance I got.
>>54685876
Almost everything is "technology". That doesn't mean your video game hardware discussion is appropriate for /g/. Take it to >>>/v/.
>>54686126
>GPUs are "video game hardware"
I'm not sure the technology board is for you.
>>54685273
Gameworks
>>54686126
>video game hardware
Not sure if retarded
>>54686319
>>54686427
>I-I use my Nvidia® Titan X f-for "scientific computing"
Nice meme
>>54686695
No, but I use my R9 390x for both Scientific computing and gaming.
Get fucked m8.
>using titan X for Cuda when OpenCL is a thing
>>54685338
DELETE THIS
>>54685338
You realize that could speak just as much to AMD driver optimizations as nvidia driver "gimping."
That doesn't actually prove what you think it does.
>>54686695
but i run folding@home at night
>>54685273
this is after Bethesda changed their renderer so that gameworks would stop killing performance (since gameworks is closed source, and nothing can be done to it by devs)
>>54687105
>nvidiots perpetually blown the fuck out
>>54687105
there is not much value in looking at benchmarks of a single game when trying to judge overall performance.
>>54686963
What happened? I thought AMD had no drivers? And now that old nvidia cards are getting gimped it turns out it's because AMD drivers are good?
Holy shit, you nvidiots can't be THIS retarded.
>>54687383
DELETE THIS!!
>>54687105
>>54687409
YES!
AMD FTW
>>54687105
This is after AMD sponsored Bioshock and optimized it for catalyst drivers.
AMD BTFO
>Implying you can ever justify this level of lack of drivers.
>>54687501
The difference here is that the FO4 patch bench was after nobody in the tech press was paying attention to FO4 benches. Unless you were in the know you'd still think that FO4 should be played with Nvidia, the way it's meant to be played.
If something is broken on one company's hardware on release then the devs are either 1)incompetent or 2)paid off.
>>54687632
No, the difference is that AMD never provided the support period so their FPS wasn't good. You can spin it however you want, the fact is that AMD has no drivers and my benchmark proves it.
A GT 550 is getting TWICE the performance of an R9 290
You can't explain that away, AMD is garbage.
>>54687709
>>54687501
>retard tripfag doesn't even get it
>>54687501
U wot?
>>54687501
>>54687709
shills don't even try to sound intelligent anymore, do they?
>>54687709
lmao, this is some low quality b8
>>54686826
post your steam library /v/uck
>>54685273
The thing is Mr. OP.
When a new game comes out, they optimize the drivers for the newer generation of cards, not the older ones.
>>54687709
>>54687728
Looks fine here, faggot. Seriously don't know why I don't have your stupid ass filtered yet.
>>54687772
>Looks fine here, faggot.
Except it doesn't because there are tons of graphical errors in Bioshock Infinite on AMD. Assuming it doesn't crash outright.
>>54687766
desu jaggies aside, that looks pretty good for that level of performance on a 670. d e s u
>>54687802
>Except it doesn't because there are tons of graphical errors in Bioshock Infinite on AMD
Source or GTFO.
>>54687812
>looks pretty good
looks like a fuckin xbox game
>>54687812
Retard.
>>54687812
Yeah looks great lmao
>>54687802
Werks on my AMD® machine©
>all this desperate damage control and shilling because 1080 is a flop
>>54687105
>Gaming benchmarks
Wonder what the freetards do with their GPU on Linux. Most of you faggots don't even compile or do intensive graphic processing.
>>54687821
When Bioshock was released (with an AMD splash screen) AMD didn't support OpenGL 4.0 and the game DID. NOT. RUN. at all.
>>54687888
Multi-monitored shitposting.
>>54687877
The sad thing is that it won't be a flop. It'll sell incredibly well, despite being an overpriced piece of trash that barely outperforms a 980 Ti. Nvidiots are some of the stupidest people alive.
>>54687907
>stable multi-monitor
>X
yeah good luck lmao
>>54687923
Its only a problem if you buy AMD actually.
Intel Nvidia etc its as easy as xrandr --auto
>>54687903
A cursory google search and the fact that you've provided no source on your claim tells me that you're full of shit, once again.
>>54687946
you've clearly never had more than one gpu then.
why are you still posting when you're an inexperienced moron
>>54687946
>implying amd open source drivers aint better than nvidias shit
nice meme nonfree software shill
>>54687910
What if I don't have a GPU currently (mine died), have a $600 newegg store credit, and want to max games (on 1080p only) before I get too heavy into the summer semester.
I feel like the purchase might be justified.
>>54685273
here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7fA_JC_R5s
>>54687964
Actually I have 3.
In my laptop.
Latest versions of Xorg support multi-gpu out of the box with Intel and Nvidia using xrandr output and render sinks.
(doesn't work with AMD)
>>54687997
i too can make bullshit claims on the internet without any evidence
>>54687383
Makes a valid point, its a known fact that it takes AMD a bit too long to fine tune their drivers
Who the fuck cares? No really, who cares? Why do people on /g/ rally behind a company like they're teams, then spit venom at each other when someone has a difference of opinion? You faggots are almost as bad as soccer (football for you eurofags) fans.
Just buy the card that has the best performance for your price range and offers features you want. I had an r9 290 xfire setup that ran fine. Except I noticed it was a 50-50 chance of having a driver on game release day that could properly drive those 2 cards so I can get 60fps in latest titles at 1440p.
One of the 290s died. I was given a 390 as replacement. Great card and ran that for a while. Still wasn't giving me what I wanted. So I gave it and my remaining 290 to friends and bought a 980ti classified model from evga. Does exactly what I want. Everything runs flawlessly. And me personally, I use shadowplay. As someone who was running AMD hardware for a while I can say that there is no equivalent in recording software. Others have much higher performance impact.
TL,DR stop arguing, buy what you want, live and let live. People will figure out on their own if they're being fucked over. I know for a fact that when the 1080 comes out, I'll be benching my 980ti with the old and new drivers to personally verify Any potential gimping.
>>54687759
i max out almost every setting in GTA 5 with no ill effects, on my 970.
>be a tripfag
>get BTFO
pick 2
AMD is a good buy IF.
1. You only use Windows.
2. You can't afford the latest games.
3. You can't afford Nvidia.
Anyone that argues against this is a troll.
fact is nvidia has always been more powerful in regards to marketin and advertising
even when AMD took the lead in performance nvidiafags kept buying nvidia cards
both AMD and NVIDIA have similarly good products in price performance but the general idea is that nvidia is better for no reason. most of the people dont even think about why, they just assume it
>>54688060
AMD "taking the lead" in performance is always a cherry picked benchmark.
In the real world they are always behind.
>>54688056
>linux
>games
>>54688056
>look at me and my uninformed opinions
>if you disagree you're wrong
so buttblasted after being BTFO this entire thread holy shit
>>54688088
they took the lead in 2006 with clearly better cards in every way and they only got around 60% of the market share (the highest ever for them) for a few months
>>54687831
>looks like a fuckin xbox game
the XBOX version looks 10x better desu senpai
>>54688118
>mfw you are right
>>54688088
>goyvidia
>>54688109
They sold well because they were faster for mining bitcoins.
The drivers still sucked and it was still a shit buy for gaming.
>>54688135
wouldn't expect you to remember 2006 as you were 2 years old at the time
>>54688135
>nvidia gpu killing drivers in the last 5 years: 3 + 1 killing notebook screens
>amd gpu killing drivers in the last 5 years: 1
end yourself
>>54688056
>still trying this hard
you've been btfo several times in this thread, why do you even bother coming back?
>>54688056
>can't afford Nvidia
What I can't afford is supporting terrible business practices that hurt the industry, as a whole.
>>54688156
Actually I was still using ATi in 2006 and suffering from almost constant overheating and crashing.
>>54688127
>vote with your wallets
I would if AMD made cards that actually worked on Linux
>>54688135
im pretty sure bitcoin was not a thing back in 2006, or at least not as big as to affect the market share.
>the drivers still sucked
i dont know about that, after all the cards were better to perform better than their nvidia competitors
catalyst AI was the worst part of the drivers but you could turn it off
>>54688178
>resorting to nonsense meme spouting because you didn't know how to use a computer in 2006
to be fair you still don't.
>>54688088
>AMD "taking the lead" in performance is always a cherry picked benchmark.
HD5870 BTFO nVidia for 6 straight months before they released the Housefire card
>>54688135
>bitcoins
>2006
seriously end yourself you fucking idiot
>>54688178
>>54688127
never seen this image before and not really a brandwar fanboy but jesus christ
how have they not been hit with class-action yet??
>>54688214
Only in cherry picked benchmarks.
The lowest of the low end Nvidia card was beating the shit out of the 5870 in every game on Linux and I don't need to even cite a benchmark because its common knowledge.
>>54688178
>>54688229
>>54688241
>every game on Linux
>Linux
>Linux
>Linux
literally nobody cares about games on Linux
>>54688241
>in every game on Linux
>2006
>in every game on Linux
>2006
>in every game on Linux
>2006
>in every game on Linux
>2006
>in every game on Linux
>2006
>in every game on Linux
>2006
>in every game on Linux
>2006
>in every game on Linux
>2006
>in every game on Linux
>2006
>in every game on Linux
>2006
>in every game on Linux
>2006
>in every game on Linux
>2006
>in every game on Linux
>2006
>in every game on Linux
>2006
>>54688241
>gaming on linux
>gaming at all
>>>/v/
>>54688241
>http://www.anandtech.com/show/2841/17
Well well, looks like it blew everything out of the water, just like i fucking said
>https://techreport.com/review/17618/amd-radeon-hd-5870-graphics-processor/9
Still winning ....
>>54688275
Ok, how about being able to run X for 24 hours with a browser window open.
You literally couldn't do that on AMD in 2006.
Hell shit was too slow to use any of the fancy new compositing window managers by gnome or kde.
>>54688301
yeah because X is written well and there is totally no need for Wayland or anything
>>54688019
>i had AMD but it was shit so I went nvidia
Uh, you know that goes against the narrative we're trying to push here?
TL;DR nvidia and AMD both have good and bad things, but nvidia throws much more money into marketing and will stay on top for a while because of it
>>54685273
anything else you want?
>>54688376
He is just shilling nvidia and the story is made up, ignore it.
>>54688178
Nvidia shill tripfag filtered
the interesting thing about nvidia is how their target their own market share
they already have a big marketshare so they keep gimping their old cards for comparisons so that the new ones look much better in comparison
>tfw when Zen and Vega will both be out by October
>tfw Haswell-quality performance, Skylake features, 8 cores, and all around the same price as an i5 for Zen
>tfw HBM2 at the price point of the GTX 1070 in Vega
>tfw Freesync monitors are cheap as fuck compared to G-sync and becoming more widely available
>tfw when possibly running the APU and GPU in Crossfire
>tfw when superior VR, DX12, and Vulcan performance for the years to come
>>54688523
That is exactly how it is,pajeet
do not shit in my corner ever again
>>54688596
>tfw when amd fail just like the did with buldozer
>>54688019
>btw my gpu is intel :^^^^^^^^)
>>>/g/
>>>/out/
>>54688677
Your gpu is not intel?
You are some gaymer right?
go /V
faggot
>>66666666666666666
>>54688596
>tfw HBM2 at the price point of the GTX 1070 in Vega
You fucking wish
>>54688613
Based on what has been leaked, I'm optimistic. Zen has been seen running at 3.0ghz with 8 cores, and that's pretty impressive if their IPC is finally in line with Intel's, which seems to be the case. That's also likely not the boost clock, and I'm sure it could be overclocked to at least 4ghz which would suit my needs just fine. That AM4 chipset will also likely be cheaper than the Z170, which means if it doesn't flop AMD will finally be relevant again.
But It's not out yet, so we'll all have to wait and see. Zen succeeding is good for everyone though, competition is desperately needed at this point.
>>54688711
You know Vega will use HBM2 right? Take all the time you want to find a source that denies that.
>>54688747
I'm not talking about the HBM2, I'm talking about the price
>>54685273
Here's proof they aren't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvCsT_dk-1E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh9Akfu90Gs
The only thing that is happening is that older cards of AMD still benefit from driver update because they are still suck on the same old GCN architecture, while Nvidia has moved onto a newer architecture with Maxwell.
So are Nvidia gimping older cards? No, and the evidence proves this isn't happening.
Does the gap between AMD and Nvidia card decrease over time? Yes, because of reasons I explained earlier.
>>54688596
>>tfw Haswell-quality performance, Skylake features, 8 cores, and all around the same price as an i5 for Zen
>the same price as an I5
Keep fucking dreaming, from what I've read they are going to try an 8 core with HT for about 400$, but I'm even suspicious of that info as it would be cheap as fuck
>>54688127
>hairworks runs poor on AMD cards
Hairworks runs like shit on all cards dumbass
>>54688596
>it g-g-g-gets b-b-better i-in t-t-the f-f-f-future amd meme
lmao
>>54688027
same but SSC version of 970, the picture is probably shopped.
>>54688821
So basically you are saying AMD has shitty drivers.
>>54688907
yeah stoopid cucks
they be thinkin' they be smart but they pajeet in the corner
AMD will be never good keep dreaming u broke neets that need cheap shit
50k+ desktop master race
>>54688777
I'm hopeful that it comes in the 490/490X, which I imagine will be at the same price point that the 390/390X were at. I'm holding out for HBM2, so even if I'm wrong and have to pay Fury prices I'm still going to get it. I could see the non-fury's getting GDDR5 or GDDR5X though, I just haven't seen AMD mention GDDR5 will appear on the Vega chips at all.
>>54688846
Honestly I know it sounds too good to be true, but AMD is in a desperate situation and market penetration will be a big focus if these chips end up being good. Fact is, even if they end up at $400 it'll be a bargain if they hype is real. That's a big IF though.
>>54688907
Investors seem to think so, most everyone who've had contact with AMD's new shit has been impressed.
>>54688821
>posting techpress/youtube shills
rofl no
>t-they're not gimping them we swear
Nvidia is on the same architecture since the dawn of DX11. The latest GPU is the same DX11 optimized trash on steroids.
>>54688957
That get better over time yes.
And truth be told, their older cards will get better over time because they are still using the same architecture.
>>54685338
Oh boy, and unsourced unexplained graph that claims to know things with vague terms. I'll believe everything this says!
Not.
>>54685273
Prove they don't.
Protip: You can't
>>54685273
don't forget the drivers released which literally set cards onfire
there is truth to every joke, including the housefire meme.
>>54688979
>"Y-your evidence is w-wrong!
Its better than no evidence, which is what you are providing for your retarded meme.
>Nvidia is on the same architecture since the dawn of DX11.
If you honestly think Keppler is the same Architecture as Maxwell you are tech illiterate, which I guess you are
>>54688981
Well they try to improve the drivers, but if they are perpetually shitty who cares if they improve slightly down the road?
Truth be told by the time it makes a difference the card is no longer relevant and AMD drops support for cards far more quickly than Nvidia.
>>54688613
tripfag memer filtered
>>54689035
>Well they try to improve the drivers, but if they are perpetually shitty who cares if they improve slightly down the road?
Agreed, but they seem to be upping their game.
>AMD drops support for cards far more quickly than Nvidia.
Have anything to back that up? It seems the other way around
>>54687383
>It only took years for our drivers to come out
>nVidia BTFO
>>54688127
So where's the problem ?
>>54689055
The Geforce 8 series released in 2006 has Windows 10 drivers.
The Radeon HD 2xxx series released in 2006 doesn't.
>>54687903
>i-t's totally true guise I may have no proof but it's true pls believe me guise
>>54689177
it does tho
its called legacy drivers, you are just stuck on 13.9 but it works
i know because i had a HD 3600 on my old pc
>>54689235
All these people...
defending pieces of metal and companies that don't even know their name...
for what purpose?
>>54689396
No idea where this comment got the reply tag. I didn't even enter one.
>>54689177
I guess you're technically correct in that there's a driver for windows 10 that nvidia claims will work?
Really seems to me like just an older driver that happens to run on windows 10, same as what AMD's done.
>>54689435
In fact, look at that. It's the exact same driver as for windows 7.
>>54689462
Honestly that just shows that Nvidia released very recent Windows 7 driver updates that include cards a decade old that are also supported on Windows 10.
heh
>>54689529
security only.
it's like this all the way from 8 series to the 300 series. one driver update for security only in the last 6 months.
pathetic, really.
>>54689620
I'm sure those drivers work better than what would be the AMD equivalent for that year on Windows 10/7
I don't see how its pathetic desu.
>>54689177
and the 780 is useless gimped shit because of its driver """""""""support""""""''''''
>>54689717
>I don't see how its pathetic desu.
because you still reply.
>muh GPUs
>>>/v/ retard
QUIT REPLYING TO THE STUPID TRIPFAG YOU DUMBFUCKS
>>54687409
>"i-it performs better in DX12"
The number of games with DX12 support is in the single doggies
>>54687383
Its a mix of amd drivers along with games where nvidia pushed tessellation hard, amd can limit the bullshit, nvidia won't let you one 780 or below so some games look disproportionately better on newer hardware.
you also have updates where in the heaven benchmark after a new driver a larger then margin for error performance loss was had on the 700 line of cards.
while amd will do their damndest to make all their cards better within reason, nvidia fights against their old cards to make them worse.
>>54687242
no, but it DOES show how much nvidia was crippling the performance of its competition.
>>54687950
to be fair, the heaven benchmark where nvidia gimped performance and a month long shitstorm was had is hard if not impossible to find on a quick search either.
>>54686826
show me video rendering being accelerated by opencl, can not for the life of me get that shit to work.
>>54687812
>670
its only slightly higher end then what is in a ps4, and with pc hardware overhead taken into account, not the worst it could be.
>>54687987
>I feel like the purchase might be justified.
if you can get it for 600$ possibly, though right now, get a factory oc 980ti as the current 1080 cant handle its boost, its why some benchmarks for it show it far ahead of a 980ti when others show it within 20% of a stock, once you oc the 980ti, within 5% if not overtaken.
>>54689001
>nvidiots are this much in denial
that chart just pulls data from techpowerup reviews over the few years.
>>54688019
if you have hdd space, dxtory and Lagarith Lossless Video Codec gives next to no hardware impact.
when it comes to preformance hit vs space, shadowplay has no equal
when it comes to quality, lagarith has no equal either.
>>54691118
>not using superior open source recording software like OBS
>>54688172
same here, only reason im waiting on zen is because its the deadline, either amd needs to be competitive or i have to get intel.
in gpus, amd is more then competitive so the choice is easy.
i really wish there was another company that wasn't a massive evil cocksucker but amd has to fill the role.
>>54691176
obs
my system
30fps
1280x800
30% processor use
60fps
1280x800
60% processor use, only able to get 50fps
unable to properly record what i want it to, constant bugs with scenes, shit is retardedly high resource costing.
>>54688165
should also stipulate, the amd one didn't have a confirmed card killed and only affected people who used third party applications to oc.
>>54688233
largely because its developers choice, its not like any of the games are required to work well on amd, so there is little you can do to nvidia directly.
the worst nvidia did was if they detected ANY amd in your computer at all, from cpu to the on board graphics, they would cut the ability to use ANY nvidia proprietary hardware or features.
>>54688885
not once you turn the tessellation to something not retarded, amd may run it better then nvidia at that point.
>>54688596
october may paper launch the vega, zen may have volume, or may have shortages depending on price point and reviews.
point 2, we are hopefully, i'm anticipating 300-500$ and if its better then 6 core intels, i'm willing to throw down for it. if its i5, i may actually build a second zen computer for just rendering purposes.
vega has no price point
decent resync are a rare commodity, and that said, are only 100-200 cheaper then nvidia on an already 500-800$ monitor, unless something came out and im not aware of it. still a win, but not really a win.
apu and gpu, at least in the past, has been fucked by apu having to use system memory, if a zen with 1-4 stacks of hbm2 comes out, fuck yea that will be nice. but i don't count on it, in fact id rather have the apu disabled just so i can oc the cpu part a bit more and keep thermals lower.
so far, we don't know about amds vr but we are anticipating similar things to what nvidia did to get that 2.5X performance. dx12 is a long shot at being good because nvidia already ported gameworks to it, vulcan is still an unknown till doom patch hits.
>>54687766
Even when no one owns the new hotness? Why optimized for your newest gpus if not even 1% own your current generation?You optimize a common architecture and then fix what ever didn't work for specific series.
>>54691284
>Using non free software
im sure you are a nvidia cuck too
>>54688969
if the hype puts them at sandybridge, they will still multicore better then 6 core intel, so price is the key factor here.
>>54691628
nope, i have a 280x and before that a 5770, but seriously, dxtory and lagarith codec is the best quality performance you can get, you want free, msi afterburner can have lafariths loaded into it too, but i hate that software for recording.
>>54691284
maybe you should use the proper branch of obs
>>54688846
the chip is half the size of their current 8350, its possible.
>>54691666
obs v0.657b 64bit
am i missing anything? i just downloaded it again a day ago because i was told something made it better and far more efficient, but at least as i see it, that's a lie.
>>54687501
>even attempting to hold AMD Linux drivers to the same standard
They don't even provide one anymore, it's all held under M.A.A.DGPU and AMDGPU-PRO. Tripfag loses IQ again!
>>54688233
Because it's bullshit retard.
>>54691936
everything on that image is true without the speculation things against nvidia.
>>54685338
BOOOM HEADSHOT
>>54688885
>Hairworks runs like shit on all cards dumbass
That's the point of its existence. Makes everything run like shit, just slightly less so for Nvidia.
>>54689118
Over there, writing stupid shit on the internets
>>54687766
tfw 670. You upgrading bro?
>>54685338
The percentages in the left column are beyond meaningless
>>54691713
if you are using radeon, then you'd want obs with vce
>>54691031
I'll look into it. I might just wait for the nonreference cards to come out, so long as it's before like August. Summer is really my only time to be a gaymerrrrrrrr but I could probably just be productive for another month first.
>>54691610
>dx12 is a long shot at being good because nvidia already ported gameworks to it
AMD's new cards can tessellate
Jesus, the nvidia shills makes me nauseous.
>>54690285
It is in 90% from total number of new releases. Even freaking total war has dx12 support now.
>>54697391
Will be funny if they do it better than nvidia. And I will die of laughter if gameworks games will start to perform better on AMD.
>>54686695
You know professional users buy off the old Titans for computational reasons. Cheap FP64 performance.
>>54687766
This is the problem. I can run BF4 on Ultra 60 FPS on my 780Ti, at 4K. I cannot run shitty Battleborn even on low at 4K.
Same in Witcher 3, forget that shit. I don't buy anything new until ME:Andromeda.
>>54688172
I hope the next enthusiast AMD card won't be shitty like this one, look at the Radeon Pro Duo, it crashes when you put in too much 4K settings.
>1500 €
>>54690285
Exactly, and the small number of resistance that won't install this shit on their PC.
>>54697648
>buying another Mass Effect
>>54688005
And gaining as much as 30% more performance?
>>54685273
Wait how are nVidia (Allegedly) gimping AMD?
>>54697742
Gimpworks^tm
>>54689177
Dubs have spoken
>>54697302
No, you're just an idiot that doesn't know what they relate to.
>>54697361
the 1080 isn't a good oc'er, someone already attacked a cpu watercooler to it and it wasn't much over 2.1ghz
if you have to go nvidia, id look at the 980ti over 1080 especially used, may get a real good deal on this shit.
>>54697391
amds old cards can to, just not a retard level like nvidia did, fucking annoying they have to waste die space to make something "better" when it was already good just because nvidia decided to push it to sub pixel levels.
also, gameworks is a render path, that included many effects, all of which are built to run well on nvidia and only nvidia. you see a lightning crack in a game with game works, its likely an effect supplied by nvidia.
>>54697511
they wont and never will unless amd buys nvidia, or a lawsuit forced nvidia to open the source completely.
nvidia doesn't use the same architecture as amd so they can code specifically for their cards render path, which while being somewhat universal is an un optimal path for everyone else.
>>54697356
Looked it up, apparently the branch of obs that used that is dead and turned into obs studio
well... it used FAR less processing power then before, thats a plus, however it crashed and saved no video at all... thats, unacceptable. will still look into this, but that was a very poor showing off the bat.
THANK YOU though, cant state that enough, this worked very well all things considered.
>>54689435
>>54689462
Not that anon, but those are new "Installers".
Gpu driver for 7 probably hasn't been updated for years. Gpu driver for 10 is probably the same as 7 if not just tweaked to work.
Just like amd just pack old gpu drivers for their legacy gpus on their newer crimson installer.
>>54702282
>>54697356
Just got the first video to record.
1 minute, 7mb, next to no hardware hit. cpu was at around 20-40% its max clock and did not change till i realised afterburner wasn't open to check gpu useage.
got a question, if i'm recording in real time with this, are there any video editing software that ALSO use the gpu for rendering? quality be damned i want speed and low impact hardware use.
>>54688596
>tfw have Haslel i5 and no need to upgrade to Zen
>tfw already have a 390 and a FreeSync monitor
Feels both good and bad at the same time.
On the one hand, I have no reason to change anything for a good 3 or 4 years (based on my needs), on the other hand, I really want to jump on the Zen train, and Vega is shaping up nicely too. Guess I won't get to experience them, at least not first hand, feels bad mang
>>54685273
The reason the performance of AMD cards improves over the years compared to Nvidia cards isn't because Nvidia gimp their hardware, it's because AMD take years to get working drivers out.
Nvidia hardware is always released with 100% working drivers.
AMD hardware is always released with shitty drivers that cause crashes and leave 50% of their hardware unused.
It's not Nvidia's fault that AMD takes years to release proper drivers, m8s.
>>54691610
>decent resync are a rare commodity, and that said, are only 100-200 cheaper then nvidia on an already 500-800$ monitor, unless something came out and im not aware of it. still a win, but not really a win
I got a FreeSync 144hz TN panel from AOC for 280€, same price as other 144hz TN panels without it. Prices in Europe are higher than in NA, too.
It's pretty decent, exactly what you would expect from a 144hz TN panel. Colors are a bit washed out and all that, but works well otherwise. Definitely much cheaper than anything with GSync, and it's 144hz too. Look up AOC G2460PF.
(I wanted 144hz because smoother for muh eyes, and I play some vidya at a skill level high enough in which it's a noticeable difference)
>>54702584
>$0.01 deposited into your account
>>54702606
oh, i have no doubt the panel itself is decent, the issues is most of the freesync are implemented cheaply so you only get a 20-30 fps range where it works. i think there are maybe 3 monitors that have a proper freesync range, but i haven't paid attention to that in months.
>>54688019
Because retards keep buying shit products which allows them to keep making shit products.
>>54702606
>It's pretty decent, exactly what you would expect from a 144hz TN panel. Colors are a bit washed out and all that
Try looking up a calibrated color profile and monitor settings guide for your monitor. You shouldn't have any washed out colors... your brightness is probably still up too fucking high. For my 144Hz TN panel I had to turn it down from 100 to ____17____ for correct colors and the monitor legitimately looks fucking great (as long as I'm looking at it head on directly).
>>54702606
oh, one more thing, 144 isn't an "i play games at a high skill level" its literally something everyone will notice if they use. i accept 60fps as a base line for what a game should play because few people have 120+ monitors and i don't expect most devs to animate for that, ill even accept 30fps when a game wants me to turn down the settings and i wont, but damnit i would fucking love 120-144 fps.
>>54702639
It works at 144hz, so I'm fine with it, since I never switch it out of that mode. Werks for me
>>54702679
Yea, I did that already, definitely helped a bit, but it's never as good as an IPS panel, that's what I meant. Blacks will never really look black, and all that. It's what I expected from a TN panel, really, other than that, the colors are perfectly fine for a TN panel, after a few twitching on the settings.
>>54702639
I have the 27" 1440p 144 Hz Asus IPS and you can hack the drivers to increase the Freesync range. Mine supports Freesync from 30 - 100 Hz.
>>54702712
Well, most people would notice the difference using 144hz or 60hz, the thing is, most wouldn't sacrifice the color and quality of an IPS panel, which are also much much cheaper, for the 144hz just because it's smoother.
I'll gladly sacrifice some of those in order to have 144hz, because the difference is just too massive. Even more so at this point, after I already got used to it, I'm afraid there's no turning back. Anything less than 120hz looks choppy already, even at high framerates in the 200FPS or higher, it's just never the same anymore.
Definitely noticeable in the gaming department though, I feel a lot more consistent when playing after I got it, and my eyes don't get as strained after being at the PC for long periods of time while working playing.
>>54702780
You notice a huge difference between 60 and 144 Hz just moving your mouse around on the desktop.
Everybody who says 144 Hz monitors are a meme is an idiot.
>>54702793
uninformed at best.
movies are 24fps and they think that's good enough,
the consoles are made for gaming and they only hit 30 at best for many games, why would they make it only 30 if 60 was better
i have 60fps and cant imagine 120 being better, i mean sure 30 to 60 was night and day but 60 to 120, no way that's different.
mix that in with the other "gaming" marketing, and you can EASILY see why people don't think more fps is better.
that and hardware requirements to get 120+ fps are insane and not coming down anytime soon.
>>54702843
Movies are non interactive, so frame rate doesn't matter as long as it's fluid enough.
Most console games don't rely on twitchy movements, they're not fast paced enough for anything higher than 60. "Cinematic" games are fine at 30, but you'll notice the choppyness if you're used to higher, most will find these unplayable
Even at 60hz, you can notice the difference between 100 or 200 FPS. Frame latency causes higher frame rates to feel more fluid than lower frame rates, even if the refresh rate of the monitor is lower than the actual frame rate.
You probably never had higher than 100FPS, much less used a 144hz panel for long enough to ever tell the difference. Only real uninformed person here is yourself.
>>54702897
oh fuck no, movies ARE NOT high enough fps.
I watch a lot of action movies, if you ever seen shaky cam, or just a car chase, you will understand how bad that looks at 24fps, really wish i could see an action movie in 48 or 72
reading the rest of your post, i think you misunderstood or i stated my position poorly.
>>54702897
Movies are also captures so there is motion blur between frames. Generated images don't have this and makes low fps even worse
I love how it went from; "Fuck amd/Fuck nvidia."
To fps for movies and refresh rates of monitors.
I am personally and AMD kinda guy, but since I saw some benchmarks of the 1080, I was thinking of switching over to nvidia just cuz it seems that most games nowadays were made to be played well on nvidia cards.
Still not hoping over to intel though.
>>54703059
Well, the 2 discussions are pretty much just different faces of the same coin. Can't have one without the other.
I'm personally an AMD guy too, but I'll take whatever the best deal is for my buck. I went with AMD this last time because both the 390 and 970 were similarly priced, 970 had the VRAM shit, and I disliked Nvidia business practices. The 390 was also tied or pulling ahead of the 970, so it was really a no brainer.
That decision was also made easier, when one of my potential new screens had FreeSync without being more expensive, so it was all pluses and no downsides. 970 had nothing to offer above the 390 for me.
Fanboyisms are retarded, and no one should cling to brands, they should pick whatever is best for them. AMD, right now, is best for the majority of people though, unless you're buying the top of the line 980ti or 1080 now, and you have the money for it, of course. Otherwise, AMD beats Nvidia pretty much elsewhere, in pretty much every variable but performance/watt.
>>54687105
this kinda fucked me over. the patch seems to have made the game less cpu intensive, which in turn ramped up my gpu usage and lowered my fps making the game into a unplayable mess. before the patch the load was balanced and the fps was good
>>54703213
then uninstall the patch :^)
>>54703237
i'll do it i guess, no idea if the DLC works with it. boy am i glad i pirated this
>>54696819
Hell yeah bro.
Getting me some polaris
>>54703286
>ever buying a bethesda title
