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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
Going to throw linux mint on my new thinkpad and abandon windows.
What's the difference between KDE, XFCE and MATE?
>>54640996
KDE is very windows like
Xfce is what I use, it's very lightweight
forgot what MATE was, but it wasn't very interesting
I'd either go for cinnamon or Xfce but I recommend trying them all to see what suits you best
also, if you go for Xfce install nemo filemanager, a lot better than thunar
>>54640996
>I'd either go for cinnamon or Xfce but I recommend trying them all to see what suits you best
This
Also agree that graphical Xfce system management tools can be a little lame.
What's the X220 like in terms of heat? I like my laptops cool and quiet, would the X220 disappoint in that department?
>>54640996
IMO Linux Mate, install Ubuntu Store, Chrome, hardinfo, Wine and you should be good. I am just basing off my clients/customers who want "a computer that just werks".
I'd also wager trying different distros, I started with Ubuntu years ago, liked Xubuntu, currently run Mint, Netrunner, + whatever is released on my ThinkPads.
>>54643157
For normal use, it shouldn't be so bad, unless the laptop has been abused prior, it should run cool.
>>54643157
expect 40-50c idle and 65-85c under normal load. 90-100c when you start doing anything intense. It also starts to throttle itself by that point.
If you get the i7 its even worse.
>>54643207
Ouch. Guess I'll take the thing apart as soon as I get it and clean + replace TIM straight away.
How's the X220 Tablet? Compared to a regular X220?
Did I fuck up buying a w520 with a 1600x900 screen? I do graphic design.
>>54643841
You can upgrade to the 1080p screen if you think you'll need it. Shouldn't be too expensive.
>tfw fell for the meme and bought an first gen Helix, i7, 8GB RAM, 180GB SSD with 1 year warranty for $320
What am I in for?
Successfully done the following on my T420s
>swapped genuine TN panel with Alienware
>replaced hinges
>setup a working eGPU with a GTX 460SE
AMA
>>54643767
IPS/10
Reliable place to buy LP125WH2-SL-B3?
>>54643922
What was the monitor upgrade like? Noticeably better?
The display lock on my x60t stopped working today. Where exactly is the "spring" mechanism that makes the lock slider stay in place?
>>54643222
Even then, mine has a fresh application of Noctua TIM. I'm lucky to see anything under 40c unless I check the temps literally as soon as I load into windows, or if I have ambient temperatures around 5c
>>54644160
Solved it: There is a small spring on the keyboard bezel which is attached to the bezel and the slider.
>>54643881
mediocre
Hey guys been looking really hard into a tpad any suggestions all I want It for is my anime addiction light gaming and hdmi so I can watch anime on TV.
>>54645375
HDMI is only on newer Thinkpads, which are way overkill for what you want. Just pick up a cheap-ass T410 and get a DisplayPort to HDMI adapter.
>>54643922
how much did it all cost?
>>54645420
Just checked out those adapters do they look ok in a hdtv. I've read alot of tpad generals and I always see the 420 one recommended care to explain please I'm new always had a desktop with w 7 but wanna experiment with like Ubuntu or mint.
>>54645476
dport and hdmi are electrically compatible. there's no signal difference.
linux works fine on all recommended thinkpads.
>>54645509
Thank you kind one. Tommorow the hunt begins on ebay.
As someone in the market for a x220, what would you guys look for and at what price point?
Slept through one with an i5 2.6ghz , 4gb and 128gb ssd that went for 140 the other week. Feel like a fucked up on that one.
>>54645761
Sold an IPS X230, 320GB HDD, 8GB RAM, whatever i5, it had a somewhat broken palmrest and shiny keyboard for $250 locally w/ AC adapter (had it for $320 on ebay)
But for you, eh, other deals will come, but that was a nice deal you fucking dumb fuck.
>mfw this W530 has uneven backley keys
>>54643922
Wow very nice anon
What would you say is a total decent cost for a alienware screen and getting a 900p cable
as in what did you pay?
This coming from a guy who bought a T430s for $165 w/ $70 IPS mod chip and $95 E7440 FHD IPS screen.
I want to sell this POS for $700, I know i am asking for too much,
>>54643841
I wouldnt think so, 900P panels I've come across are nice.
This FHD panel on the W530 has a problem, it is blue and it has vertical lines visible, its sad.
>>54640551
>>54640572
>>54640809
>>54640915
>>54640941
>>54641055
>>54641097
Well I made it out alive and well.
He turned out to be super cool guy that made a living fixing computers out of his cubical sized apartment.
The x300 is in VERY nice condition,works great, now all I need is a battery and a 1.8" SSD.
also
>who needs a backlight when you have a frontlight
>>54645841
>but that was a nice deal you fucking dumb fuck.
Sure am. Not sure if I'll find someone else dumb enough to have their auction end at 4am on a fucking weekday though.
Is Linux battery life much better than Windows 10 on T420/X220?
Do those bulk X220s on ebay come with mSATA SSDs or are they full 2.5"?
>>54646283
no, its a little bit worse.
Is there a preferred replacement keyboard for the T420?
Including the Clit Mouse sensor and parts
I have read varying information supporting certain manufacturers but no one seems to agree
Is the T420 keyboard the same as the T430, T500...? Because most seem to advertise multiple on ebay
I want to put a quad core CPU in my T430. I'm looking at the 35w models over the 45w. Is there anything I should consider? Do I need to upgrade my fan to make up for the heat increase?
>>54647002
You're good, the T430 can easily handle a 35w cpu with no cooling upgrades.
>>54646824
Keyboards are all the same across T, W, and X series of a given generation, with exclusions for certain unique models like the X201, X301, and the W701. **10 and **20 keyboards are effectively identical and can be swapped effortlessly. **30 generation introduced the controversial chiclet layout, but should be electrically compatible with a T420. Unsure about physical compatibility, you have to make a couple changes to the T430 to implant the T420 keyboard but I don't know about the other way around. Older generation keyboards are not electrically compatible, nor are newer keyboards from the **40 generation and on.
>>54647032
Glorious. The T430 is coming in the mail, I can order in a 3632QM before that arrives.
Then it's a keyboard replacement as well as a T420 screen bezel, because I must always blaze it. Looking really forward to this.
>>54647063
>controversial chiclet layout
I take it this is not generally considered superior to the XX20 version?
Anybody know if a A21e Thinkpad would be worth anything? Can't really find any for sale online.
>>54647063
No.
The X series before the X200 had a unique keyboard each generation. Most of the T and W series pre-chiclet used the same keyboard from the T60 on.
>>54643767
It only sways left, I believe only space for one hdd and it can be hard to get the tablet features working with linux.
Thinking of just going balls deep and upgrading my T420 to max specs. i7-2630qm ($90 Ebay), 16gb ddr3 ($40 microcenter).
Should I bother? I mean I already have an i7-2620m and 4gb ddr3. What things can I add to my T420? I already have a 9 cell battery, ssd primary, HDD secondary. Maybe an msata ssd? Are those known for over heating or no?
Same with sticking an 8 thread i7 in my laptop compared to my current 4 thread. Will heat prove to be a problem?
>>54647109
Shit's fucked cunt.
>>54647143
the memory will make some difference. Nothing else will really.
>>54647143
What's the screen res?
Absolutely upgrade the ram. 8 is good, but each man uses their laptop differently and I'm sure you have a legitimate need for 16.
>>54645908
Glad you're not dead, sicko.
>>54647156
didn't think so. Plus 4 threads is more than enough for what I use this laptop for. Maybe I'll just go for 8gb of ram. I can get my hands on another 4gb stick for $10.
Curiosity sake, how are the new thinkpads? The T460 primarily? Build quality, etc? While my T420 is trucking along nicely, longer battery life would be nice and the Skylake based shit seems to get great life. Not to mention the 1080p screen, USB 3.0 etc. I know that /g/ totes that the thinkpads of old are the only thinkpads worth owning, but has anyone gone hands on with the new stuff yet? Would it be more worth it to go Dell Precision/Latitude?
>>54647188
Was tempted by the X460 honestly, but decided to buy an X62 mobo instead.
>>54647173
my T420 was one of the rare few on ebay that WASN'T broken and had a 1600x900 screen. And yea the 16gb ddr3 would help with the multiple VM's I have to run for some of my classes. Windows Server 2012 with Active Directory installed using 2-3 other Windows 7 based VM's as dummy clients for testing. Which is why i was also considering the 8 thread i7 because moar coars is moar better for my uses. Just worried about heat as my 4 thread hits 75C under moderate load as it is even after re-pasting with IC diamond paste.
>>54647215
What, you want you fan screaming REEEEEEEEE to go from 75C to 60C, when both otherwise get the job done equally well?
I don't even turn the fan on on my ThinkPads until the CPU hits 65C.
>>54647176
:^(
>>54647207
nigger don't play.
link me.
>>54647240
I'm the dude who had a Chinese friend grab one at exactly the right time. I was both lucky, and paid more than I should have for it.
The nb51 folks are still saying they'll eventually ship overseas. Unlike the T50 they actually made a full run, it just sold out already.
>>54647258
son of a bitch god damn.
What are the odds that they would actually produce to meet demand?
X220 vs W510?
>>54647286
2 completely different machines man. What are your needs? Power or portability? Not to mention different processor families. First gen i5/i7 chips ran hotter and used more juice than 2nd gen. The W510 would be slower than the X220, lower battery life, and run hotter.
Not to mention the W510 usually comes with dedicated Nvidia chipset in it. So battery life would tank a bit more.
>>54647280
I dunno. I was skeptical they'd ever get to full run.
But the dude doing it wants to make money, seems to me like the first run was a success, so I expect there will be more because there's more money to be made.
>>54647286
5.56x39 vs 7.62x54?
>>54647324
Pretty much this, the X220's sandy bridge is a higher velocity package, but that W510 is huge.
>>54647318
I want to watch movies (on both the laptop and output to television), browse web, play some older games (new vegas, civ 5, etc) and maybe do some programming
>>54647322
they certainly should. they would probably jack up their margins too, if they're smart.
The problem is that if there's more money to be made elsewhere, they'll use the capacity they're using here,there. I don't think that's a huge problem in China, though, so we should be fine. I'm staying hopeful.
>>54647371
>The problem is that if there's more money to be made elsewhere, they'll use the capacity they're using here,there. I don't think that's a huge problem in China, though, so we should be fine. I'm staying hopeful.
The design work was a huge investment. That's done. I works. It makes sense they'd just pump out more.
How bad is the bubble problem on X61 Tablet SXGA?
I can buy one in my area and it has some small bubbles on the top part of the screen.
>>54647412
>How bad is the bubble problem on X61 Tablet SXGA?
>I can buy one in my area and it has some small bubbles on the top part of the screen.
It's bad, nasty, and will only get worse.
The adhesive is a form of pine tar. Ever get pine tar on your car? Then tried to get it off? THAT.
>>54647412
>>54647427
Only thing you can do is get one that isn't seeping yet, rip open the lid, and seal the screen preemptively with something like silicone. If you don't, you're asking for all the sticky without any of the tentacle pron.
Fugg :D
Don't know if I want to spend an extra $150 for a T520 over the X220. Can you put a FHD IPS in the T520 without ridiculous hacks? Because it seems the best you can put in the X220 without silly nonsense is a 1366x768 IPS.
Thinking of getting a 9 cell for my X230t. Are chink batteries safe for use?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/9Cell-Battery-for-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X230T-Tablet-0A36316-0A36317-0A36285-42T4877-/201392457166?hash=item2ee3ed05ce:g:OZMAAOSwHnFVrmTs
>>54647611
>Are chink batteries safe for use?
Most yes, though they all use crap, recycled cells.
That said, I've opened some that were housefires waiting to happen. No joke, I've pried open batteries that had been arcing internally because insulation rings between cells cost money :-P
>>54647517
It's a 12.5" screen, why would you want to go for any higher resolution on that is beyond me. PPI is high enough, battery life isn't ruined/doesn't run too hot either.
>>54647690
I like a slightly higher PPI than that, but Anon has a point. Also, the lower the PPI, the brighter the screen. All the Thinkpad screens of the era are dimmer than they should be.
>>54647690
Fuckin this, I always see guys wanting 1080p and shit on a little screen when 900p 14 inchers are really tight pixel densities.
huh, apparently linux can use the shitty internal speaker on my optiplex that wandgos couldnt.
Anyone plays games on their T420? What do you find playable with the HD2000?
>>54647690
>>54647718
>>54647729
>thinkcucks defending shitty screens
>>54644036
Yes, significant upgrade but it's no IPS mod. While the viewing angles are still garbage you will benefit from more true colours, deeper blacks and less white flush from tilting the screen side to side.
>>54645427
Screen panel was around $70.
Hinges were $20
eGPU was around $160
>>54645841
Mine was already the 900p so I didn't have to purchase the cable.
I purchased the screen from Laptopscreens.
Why don't you like your T430s anon? I was thinking about upgrading to ivy bridge and do the keyboard swap for better power consumption. Is the 1080p IPS not good?
>>54649910
Nice, I actually just pulled the trigger on a perfect condition T420S (i7-2620m/4GB ram/NVS4200m/128GB ssd), should arrive next week.
Already ordered the FHD mod kit as well, now all that is left is choosing a new panel and finding a good deal on a 3 cell bay battery.
>breathing intensifies
>>54650384
I thoroughly enjoy my T420s, coming from a X220 I found the bigger screen and extra screen resolution so much more manageable. As well, the weight of the T420s is the same as the X220 with 9 cell.
>>54650472
Post a pic when you get it, I wanna see this motherfucker.
>>54645908
What's that tiny computer on the keyboard?
>>54645908
Nice deal anon, glad your safe.
Enjoy the Kodachi ThinkPad.
>>54647109
Eh, layout you'll get used to.
>>54647258
>sold out again
I really hope they aren't underselling the things.
Post more photos, whore.
>>54647412
I don't mind the bubbles but there is a pixel grain that is not fun to deal with.
Its slowly seeping out, probably would be worse if I daily'd it.
Need to wipe out W10 and bring that thing back with Xubuntu or something...
RBS from TPF is selling an X60T Panel for a good price... though its gonna need some work it sounds.
>>54649910
Battery is busted on it, and I was buzzed at the time of posting so I made it sound worse than it is.
Nah the screen is beautiful, just dunno if my mobo is bad or if Mint is being a bitch (SD card reader doesn't work on my SDXC, DVD burner doesn't read disc and sometimes doesn't burn correctly)
>>54645908
nice
the guy I bought my T420s from is apparantly someone who erases old PCs for BIG companies and has hundreds, maybe even thousands ThinkPads stored in a warehouse
he also has hundreds of monitors and other laptops. he sells everything for almost nothing to Egypt and China or some other 2nd world country
He's really nice, if I ever needed parts for my ThinkPad I could always drop by
I just bought a T420, did I do good /tpg/ ?
>>54653410
Sure.
Anything I should know before deciding between a t420s or x220.
Someone also told me that neither x220 or the t420s run usb 3.0 natively, which makes the speed boosts trivial. y/n?
>>54650472
Ohh baby
>>54653410
Love my t420. You did great, and you'll be back for another one soon enough.
>>54652697
lol want to ask him if he has a t420s he'll sell me?
Donor x60t board S O O N.
Can I take a motherboard from a x60 and put it in a x60s without any problems?
>>54653921
You lucky bastard
>>54655236
>>54653921
Have fun with it by the way
Is there a new or recent 15" thinkpad with caps/num/scroll lock lights other than the p50/70? I don't want to buy a used machine.
>>54654968
I doubt it. Even if it did fit, you'd only succeed in dying in a housefire. The X60s has thermal problems as it is, and it uses a low-voltage processor. You really think it's a good idea to put a full-voltage processor in there?
>>54655236
>>54655260
They both look flawless aside from light scratches on the back that can only be seen in the right light and looking for them
>>54655542
Installing windows on my the one in giving to my mom
For mine in going to take my first venture into Linux still don't know the distro
>>54655574
Xubuntu just werks.
>>54655497
What do you mean thermal problems? I allways thought that they both had the same chassis. My goal was/is to get my x60s running a 2ghz processor so I can watch high-def videos.
How much should I expect to be able to sell an x220 for with dock that's only been lightly used?
It's pretty much stock with a 120gb ssd.
survey:
1. what thinkpad?
2. what OS?
3. typical battery life?
>>54656374
G40
Windows XP
2 hours
What's a useful distro or setup for linux on the x220t?
>>54656374
t420
linux mint mate
maybe 6 hours
>>54640956
What about toughbooks for rich people and the refurbished for poor.
>holy shit the upgradeability
>wow that keyboard
>Linux just werx
>????
>~500$$$ used or some serious cash for a new one
They seem good hbu guys?
>>54656654
Breddy good, used ones can be as little as $150
>>54656654
>tfw no western market for the best Panasonic lines
Wish the RZ5 was sold internationally.
They're great laptops. Stupidly overpriced unfortunately.
>>54656374
X220
Arch Linux
3 hours on a 6 cell with 70% capacity
9 cell is in the mail, though.
>>54645908
why don't we see a lot of X30X lines around?
those are nice laptops.
>>54645908
are the batteries rare for it?
>>54656374
T420
Fedora 23
Around 4 hours
>>54657135
I love my X301, however the keyboard died on me and havent gotten around to fixing it. Such a light laptop too.
>>54657135
Because they were really, really fucking expensive when new = low sales volume
>>54651404
It's the Onion Omega, a 400mhz 0.5watt wifi enabled tiny Linux computer
It was sitting next to the laptop so I put it in the picture
>>54657421
Thanks, mate.
>>54657421
That is very cool.
>>54657135
>>54645908
if you look at my post above I got one by luck for 20$. It would have been nice If it was slightly faster, almost fast enough to play youtube. Thinking about doing that Chinese mod where you solder on the mobo to overclock it.
On another note does anyone know where to get a cheap 1.8" ssd for it?
how much do T420 keyboards go for. I found one for $20.
Thinking of going mint
>>54658066
$10-30 usually, depending on manufacturer and condition
>>54655574
>>54655542
>>54653921
>>54650472
you wouldnt happen to have gotten it from a ebay seller named geeknext?
>>54658291
It's worth a try.
>>54640956
I scratched the back cover of my T460, where do you usually find these parts for thinkpads? Does Lenovo sell them?
>>54658447
Scratches are good, now you don't need to worry about it anymore.. If you want to then check ebay.
>>54658317
yes I did
>>54654500
https://www.gebruikt.com/lenovo-t420s-i5-2540m-4gb-160gb-ssd-14-inch-win-7.html
He has just recently set up a webshop, but it's only interesting if you live in the Netherlands. He offered me to sell me a lot of ThinkPads for cheap so that I could sell them myself (I'm a student and somehow got into a conversation of how to make money as a student).
I was thinking of setting up a webshop that caters to the needs of /tpg/, so cheap used ThinkPads and parts. Though only anons in Europe would benefit from it since export and import charges are pretty high. Any eurofags here interested?
>>54654500
uhh i have a 2nd one with an i5 and 4gb of ram if you want it, been thinking of getting a 220 with the FHD mod
>>54658854
Be prepared for autism regarding parts and machines. I say that as a King-level autist.
>>54658948
What i5? I kinda feel like the 2.5GHz one is too slow
>>54658985
What kind of autism should I expect?
I think I'll first start small though, only advertising on my country's version of ebay to see if the selling is something for me
>>54658987
i5-2430M
it's plenty fast for me and this is coming from someone who uses a 2015 rMBP with an i7 for work.
>>54659003
Just being very exacting about parts. Like, there's a huge difference between the authentic E01 hinge, E02 hinge, and the Chinese hinges sold for the tables series(es) and if you put a picture of one but sell one of the others, prepare for all Hell to break loose.
Also, be careful about buying 'new' Chinese keyboards. Most are refurbs shot with a layer of lacquer that makes 'em look new. It only lasts a few weeks of light use, just long enough for the return period to run out.
>>54658987
>What i5? I kinda feel like the 2.5GHz one is too slow
I still have a C2D and don't feel it's slow.
>>54659092
C2D is still legit, it's only the integrated graphics from the time that are too slow for anything but desktop rendering.
>>54659092
at this point processor speed is negligible, i care more about heat and power draw. if i wanna transcode a trillion videos i'll just use my desktop or shoot them off into an AWS GPU instance
>>54659063
Thanks. Yeah, I hate it when people list stuff incorrect (intentionally or unintentionally).
I'm not sure how much stuff and parts he actually has in his warehouse but it looks like he just gets large containers from big companies. So it'll most likely be 100 exactly the same ThinkPads with various amounts of wear. I thought I could maybe disassemble some to sell the parts.
>>54659124
>i care more about heat
I was worried at first when I bought this T420s that it'd overheat but so far it hasn't reached even reached 70 yet. Battery life is decent for an old laptop I think; something like 3 to 3.5 hours
>>54640956
Tfw issued last years t450s with shitty i5
Anybody else get crappy laptops at work?
>>54659185
calibrate your monitors anon, daaaamn, how do you look at that?
>>54659185
>pretty fly for a
>
How's it end?
>>54659217
wifi
>>54658987
anyway i'll take 80 bucks for it, you pay shipping - lemme know. would rather a fellow autist appreciate it instead of some random asshole
The Dutch idiot that broke his x220t throwing it from a 5 story building here.
The dudes from the postal service just called, my mystery x220t I purchased for 50 bucks just got out of customs. And I must drive by to pick it up tomorrow.
I call it mystery x220t because the seller said he ignored if the damn thing worked.
Wish me luck
>>54658948
how much do you want for it? im in the us, if that makes any difference
>>54659446
80 US doll hairs
дaвaй, дa cпeши! ))
>>54659491
>>54659494
does it have a hard drive? battery?
>>54659597
>alex
I hope your package gets lost.
>>54659217
Friday
>>54659615
magnetic drive, 6 cell battery
>>54659978
mind throwing up an ebay listing or something? im sure you're not lying but id like to be a little more sure lol
>>54660112
yeah sure but it'll be more expensive since ebay takes a cut
>>54660230
hmm any idea how much more?
>>54660252
ebay takes like 12 percent or something so i'd probably just do like 100 and then shipping is probably 10-20 bucks
>>54660331
unrelated but i also have an HP Elitebook 840 with an i5 as well
>>54660331
that sounds fine (although if you could do any less that would be fantastic)
anything wrong with it?
>>54660356
not that i know of, no charger.
let me find out how big the magnetic disk is, i think it's 320gb.
I was writing a post on hastebin, but it got deleted, so please forgive my low-quality post:
Are there any danefags (or Swedes oder vielleicht ein Kraut oder zwei) who know where one should go about picking up a thinkpad on the cheap? dba, guloggratis, and the various overpriced refurb stores are what I've found on ddg/startpage so far, but they all seem way too expensive for what would essentially be a hardware downgrade from my gaymer laptop (mostly just for improved sturdiness and more importantly because the keyboard on this msi thing is cancer)
>>54643222
its still going to be terrible.
>>54643767
imagine a normal x220 with a retarted hinge and it throttles even more.
>>54643841
rip.
>>54643881
one hell of a meme.
>>54643922
rip temperatures.
>>54660112
>>54660252
>>54660356
https://niltalk.com/r/BKe7O
password is dankmemes
>>54645375
I'd recommend getting the G19, and use it to join your weeaboo friends
Is there any way to fine-tune the trackpoint of a T420 under windows similar to linux e.g. differnet tresholds etc.?
Of course I'm aware of the settings panel but I haven't found the sweet spot yet. Also these recalibrations on the trackpointcan get pretty annoying.
>>54657421
>the Onion Omega, a 400mhz 0.5watt wifi enabled tiny Linux computer
Awesome. Why have I never heard o this before?
Also, OP, try lxde, it's one of the lightest full environments around.
>>54660833
Get one they cost 20$!
I'm on arch xfce on the x300 but I'll be sure to try out lxde
I don't think it really has much to do with bloted desktop but just aging hardware, for example I cant have more than 5 tabs open and can laggs on a 720p60 video
>>54640956
so i replaced my motherboard and now the power jack feels different.the old power jack feels like it only allow a little bit of the tip of the charger in,but not fully
>>54660553
>rip.
what
>>54657589
You might be better off getting a 1.8" to mSATA adapter and then you have a lot more options for a SSD.
>>54661172
Lagging on 60 fps YouTube videos is probably to be expected, because VP9 must be decoded in software. My x220 can barely keep up with that.
>>54661172
(i'm the anon who asked what the computer was)
I took a real good look at Onion Omega and realized that it will be everything I hate routers for: slow and incredibly constrained (and I'm pretty sure the parts on the Omega are straight from some router).
That's sad because it looks real cool, but I'd rather pay the same (or maybe less) for Pi Zero and get a proper computer.
>>54661256
>My x220 can barely keep up with that.
What's with the people here saying their x220/t420 can't into high bitrate video?
My x220 (i5-2520m) can easily play 1080p60 without any lags and with only ~60% CPU usage.
>tfw you feel for the ThinkPad meme
>>54661281
I think you're missing the point of the Onion Omega, you shouldn't compare it to the rasbery pi zero.
It's one purpose is to make the internet of things easy to make, with a very small power efficient MIPS cpu.
Basically slap one onto your sprinkler system to make it smart, or a coffeemaker, or so on.
>>54661281
hell even my x60t could render 720p60 video with mpv.
so...its the Broadcom CrystalHD still a thing or just a meme now that flashvideo is dead?
>>54661351
Yeah, now I understand that it's more of an Arduino with Linux than a proper computer like RPi. I really want to cheer about how much better value Pi Zero is compared to Omega, but literally nobody in the world has (or can have) a Pi Zero. But hey, the new revision is out...
I hope Onion Omega fills the niche for somebody, but I'll just have to wait until Pi Zeros are in stock somewhere.
>>54661256
Thanks for the tips on the 1.8" ssd and video problems.
>>54661353
mpv works a lot better at playing video than YouTube does, although still not flawlessly
>>54661452
Yea I feel you, I also really want a rpi0...
I check http://whereismypizero.com/ weekly, I can't believe I just missed like a shipment of 30000 a week back.
So silly question, is there any risk in used laptops with the vPro, assuming I have access to the BIOS and can change the password it should be no, right?
What sort of things can I add to my T420 to give it more of that classic IBM aesthetic?
Where's the safest place to buy an IPS display for the X220?
>>54661778
glue some punchcards to the back
>>54661560
>I check http://whereismypizero.com/ weekly
Dang, that's a handy website. Thanks!
Should I remove the trackpad sticker? Is there any difference either way?
>>54661281
>What's with the people here saying their x220/t420 can't into high bitrate video?
>My x220 (i5-2520m) can easily play 1080p60 without any lags and with only ~60% CPU usage.
In firefox youtube can do 720p60 fine, but 1080p60 still causes some lag, but I'm also using an external 1440p monitor, so that probably ads a bit more stress than just playing it back on the normal screen.
What can/should one do with a old t30?
>>54662658
Get Xubuntu.
as a student, best setup for my x61? have windows 7 right now but i feel other options could give me a little more, any thoughts? i know most gnu/linux distros have great thinkpad support, but for what i want to do is it worth it?
mainly need to read/research a lot/type large documents
regards
>>54662861
use LaTeX.
you'll thank me.
>>54662912
It looks very interesting and easy to learn. I was more thinking of operating systems to replace Windows 7. Regardless, I will try to learn this when my schedule is under control. It looks great for what I'm going to be writing about for the next few years. Thank you for the suggestion!
>>54662973
It's easier to install and lighter on Linux, too.
Any light distro would suit you fine, xubuntu being popular. >>/g/fglt for anything specific.
>>54663015
I've used xubuntu long ago. I'll have a look around for something more involved and lurk that thread. Thank you for the advice!
I think my T410 is having problems with heat when docked and more hot weather is coming. Anyone heard of some DIY shit I can do ? I already removed the two plastic shits between the laptop and the undock and power buttons, and this helped a little. I was thinking of buying cooling pad and diy-ing it to fit around the dock somehow...
I hear the T460s has a real shit build quality compared to the X series. Is this true?
>>54662912
>new gookpads
>talking about quality
just get whichever one reminds you of a macbook and move on. That's what Lelnovo would want
>>54662658
debian with light DE
source distro like Gentoo with remote compilation
or
Don't install anything. Just stare at it and cry knowing the age of ubiquitous quality hardware is over
>>54663621
I miss the x4x era.
>>54663653
they had a signature line of laptops
All the important work for design was done
All those gooks had to do was improve battery, add screens that are acceptable by modern standards, and continue with modern iterations.
Instead they chose to make another macbook clone and slap the logo on any plastic consumer garbage they could churn out
>>54663709
It pisses me off the people who come in here and dont understand my rage when they talk about how great nuthinkpads are.
Fuck if lenovo had ANYTHING new resembling an old thinkpad i'd buy it in an instant, as it is i'm limping by on a T420.
>>54663709
Mmm, X40.
I happen to be working on LED backlight upgrades for the X40 and X41 at this very moment...
>>54663722
>as it is i'm limping by on a T420.
I use the X200 line for light work. I offload any computationally heavy workload to a server.
If I ever need modern mobile hardware it's not going to be any new Lenovo abortion
The retro was clearly a PR stunt. There has been no news for what, years? Even if it does come out, it will probably be stupidly expensive as it is purely made for an enthusiast market.
Apparently, having good hardware is considered a "retro" thing now.
I'm so tired of the memes
>>54663730
Nice
The X40 is a qt
what ideal temperature should a t420 with a 2540 and integrated graphics be running at idle and under stress test?
>>54663856
depends what your fan profile is set to. So long as you never exceed 95C or throttle under load, you're fine.
At this particular moment in time, I don't think I have a healthier or more deeply-felt respect for any other object in the universe than this here E6400.
>>54663966
You're gonna have a Conan moment when that sword breaks dude....
>>54663903
was wondering cause my old laptop normally sat at 75-80c when im using it
hot as hell
and my t420 is sitting at 70 when im using
was wondering if i should be worried
>>54664000
Maybe. If you've set the fan profile to 'silent' or explicitly set temp/speed that's normal. Otherwise, it does seem high.
>>54646342
if they say it's msata then it's msata
if they don't then assume it's the worst (sata)
>>54661255
it's rip anon
Would you pay $230 for a refurbished x220 with 6 months warranty?
>inb4 you can get one for $20
I'm not in murka
>>54664574
230 isnt bad for a x220 in a shit country.
>>54664626
>not America
>shit
McKillYourself™, fag
Also does this one have an IPS display?
>>54662658
libreboot & gentoo
>>54661347
>filename isn't feelsgoodman.jpg
>>54664647
And I thought amerifats were stupid
>Also does this one have an IPS display?
Not if it's not specifically listed
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X220
>>54664647
No, he is talking about shitholes like my God-forgotten Brazil, with 100% import taxes (if you are going to say 60% you are forgetting the other taxes that pile on top of this).
>>54659597
Hey man talk Americano here please
>>54656374
1. T430
2. Windows 10
3. 7 Hours with 6 cell battery
Any recommendations for a 1TB+ media hard drive for a T430?
>>54656374
1. T420s
2. Linux Mint Xfce
3. 3 hours
>>54656374
1. x220
2. Funtoo
3. ~2 hours, 60% capacity according to upower but I leave it on mains most of the time. I'll upgrade it eventually.
>>54656374
1. x220
2. win10
3. ~11h with 9cell battery
Alright guys I've noticed the t430 and t420 are almost the same price should I go for a t430 120 ssd on ebay for like 200?
>>54666986
If you want a cheap laptop sure T430 will be a bit better hardware wise, if you want a something actually resembling what was once a fantastic line of business laptops with one of the best keyboards ever used on laptops in general, then get the T420.
>>54656374
>x230 with i7, DDR3L RAM, 4 years old 9cell battery and IPS screen
>castrated and well optimized Windows 10 Pro x64
>10-13 hours without ultrabase and only when browsing the internet with blocked flash. Up to 2,5h under full load of both CPU and iGPU (ie. gayming)
The funny thing is battery is 4 years old and now it only holds 74Wh out of original 93Wh. With new battery it would last much longer.
>>54667016
I'm surprised the i7 lasts so long
What games do you play? do you have an eGPU?
Guys, I have this black spot over my thinkpad and it really bothers me since its covering the webcam. Anyone knows what would be a good way of removing it?
I need a limux distro for my x220 that will involve the least amount of maintenance and tinkering to keep it working. I was told Fedora or Debian would suit my needs. What would you recommend?
>>54667304
I had eGPU. Sold it because I had a financial crysis for $300.
Now I'm playing old gaymes like Fallout 3, New Vegas, CS:GO, gmod and I've tried today bf3. Pretty playable with disabled throttling.
>>54667409
I actually put black tape over my webcam but if you do need it you can try cleaning it with rubbing alcohol
>>54667486
Mint Xfce (or another flavor, this one runs well on low-end machines). I've tried a lot of alternatives but this one is by far the easiest and still stays true to being Linux
You don't have to update to keep it working and if you do have to update it's really simple
>pic related
Also all Ubuntu tutorials online are usable with Mint
>>54667486
>least amount of maintenance
Ubuntu.
It just started taking color off :/ it isn't removing the stain
>>54667597
>It just started taking color off
You mean the black of your ThinkPad? That's weird, I cleaned my entire T420 with it and none of the colors faded. I didn't use it on the stickers though
Why does the lid of my X220 covered with blue glitter? Is this normal?
>>54667562
What settings can you play CS:GO on?
What FPS do you get in BF3?
>>54667624
>cs:go
medium 1366x768, 60fps after disabling throttling and forcing iGPU frequency to 1,25GHz
>bf3
around 25 up to 40, 1366x768, everything set to minimum
>>54667562
also here's the old config before I made it as mobile as possible
>>54667574
What I didn't like about Ubuntu was that a lot of config files were in different locations, besides it seems like a multimedia oriented desktop and I only need development tools and I want the OS to run smoothly. Gnome on Ubuntu is a nightmare.
Thinkpad 13 or x260?
>>54667720
quad core t430 with nvidia gpu
>>54667686
>I only need development tools and I want the OS to run smoothly
Maybe Arch? They aren't high-maintenance after the first week, if you're willing to invest this much time into getting a great custom rolling-release OS.
But you'll probably be better off with Debian.
>>54667003
Swap the keyboard and get the best of both.
>>54667750
sounds fantastic chum but I want to buy new only
>>54667754
Can't be fucked, it's not as if the T430 is significantly more powerful.
>>54667762
>I want to buy new only
Classic mistake. You'll get over it eventually. Lurk for a while and you'll feel right at home with a comfy ThinkPad.
>>54667765
check >>54667750
It's significantly more powerful since it can handle quad core CPUs properly. Also the dGPU is much better.
>>54667765
Yeah I would agree there. Only get the T430 if you want the nvidia graphics. It's significantly better than the T420's. If that doesn't concern you the T420 is just as good, minus USB 3.
>>54667796
Considering the i5 in the T420 can already hit 95C+ underload (with a brand new application of Noctua TIM). I highly doubt that i7 will ever manage to go at 100% without being throttled.
The 14" size is just too small for that level of heat dissipation unless you have ambient temperatures below 10c.
I'd love to see some benchmarks, but it wont be anywhere near double performance.
>>54640956
>/tpg/
maybe if you tpg assholes would shut up the prices for thinkpads would drop more
>>54667789
I'm literally replying to you on an X220 right now, friendo
Had two bad experiences from buying used thinkpads, don't fancy getting burned again
I'm also from UK, so the prices of used thinkpads are greatly inflated for fairly awful quality
>>54667821
>maybe if you tpg assholes would shut up the prices for thinkpads would drop more
Trust me, the /tpg/ userbase is nothing compared to the amount of second ThinkPads sitting in warehouses.
>>54667818
T420 has a sandy bridge CPU. It generates MUCH MORE heat than 22nm ivy bridges.
That t430 above was in my hands 2 years ago. It never throttled, even when gayming. Also the CPU is as fast as i5-2500k.
>>54667750
This will be me very soon. Once the T430 arrives in goes the replacement screen, keyboard, 35w quad core and a T420 screen bezel. I must always be 420blazing it. Can't wait.
>>54667850
but muh inferior keyboard
I don't game on my ThinkPad anyway, none of them are built for it really. Just get a desktop if you must game
>>54667848
Just shut up!
It'll be our little secret.
>>54667879
>implying the only purpose of having a quad core cpu is to gaym
Get out
>>54667850
>Also the CPU is as fast as i5-2500k
LMFAO, no no it isn't
A 45w laptop CPU is NOT as powerful as a 95w desktop CPU, even if it came out a generation later on 22n and not 32nm
This isn't even to bring up the fact, who the fuck needs a quad core i7 on a fucking laptop? we all have desktops...
>>54667617
Now there's some white stuff appearing and isn't going off
