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Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
>9 cell for my X220 just shipped
>will be here in 3 weeks
maximum hype already
I want to make music with AVlinux and a Thinkpad. Recs?
>>54613148
A T420 with even the base 2520m will rip through any music app you're gonna throw at it.
>>54613166
Yay thx!
>>54613166
>04:36:07
Is the base thingy a CPU?
I bought a t420 recently, running genuine windows 7 but there is no recovery partition. Is that bad? What would I actually have needed it for?
If I'm buying new, are Thinkpads still the best option?
Anon who had an issue with the vert taskbar thickness on win 10 a while ago, found a fix with a program called 7+ Taskbar tweeker and this blog post [spoiler]http://sandipchitale.blogspot.com.au/2014/04/windows-81-thin-vertical-taskbar.html[/spoiler]
It makes it much nicer to use low res displays like you get on the x220 or the x230 i have. More vertical space to work with and not wasting horizontal space to a taskbar that is to wide. I could have the taskbar auto hide like i used to on OSX but i never liked doing that.
>>54613458
x260 and t460p will bully pretty much any other laptop in terms of battery life. They are not bad options but they are quite expensive new.
>>54613493
Is the T460 or T460s any decent?
>>54613516
they are all decent, t460s apparent has a shorter key throw than the other 2, if i was buying a thinkpad brand new though I would look into the t460p as it comes with a full power mobile chip rather than the piss weak ULV cpus that the T460 and T460s use. Also you should be able to get dedicated gpus in them if you care about that.
>>54613562
Sounds pretty damn awesome, actually. The only thing that is turning me off is the fact that I can get a 1TB nvme with an X1 Carbon and not on the T460p. Also, while I'm not a "muh thin" freak, I'm worried that a T460p will be a tad too thick for my tastes since I'll have it in a carrying case and walking around for hours with it at a time. Any way you could address these concerns for me?
>>54613701
Well I carry an older T420 daily and the T460p is 5mm thinner and a full 0.9lbs lighter.
I don't think you'll have much problems.
Also, buying them with a larger SSD preinstalled is usually just a waste of money, you can probably buy a 1TB SSD for less and install it yourself.
>>54613729
While I've built a bunch of towers, I've never messed with the guts of a laptop. Hopefully I'll be able to work my clumsy hands around it well enough. Thanks for your help.
So my T420 came in and the 9-cell it has only lasts about an hour before dying. Should I bother replacing it? I also noticed when I have the battery plugged in Speccy reads my CPU temp as 60-75c as well as the mainboard temp. But if I remove the battery the CPU temp goes down to ~40-45c.
I assume the battery has a temp sensor and that is what it was reporting while it was plugged in.
How does t410 compare to t420. Obviously the cpu is over a dozen percent faster, but beside that? Is t420 worth 50 bucks extra?
>>54613797
The integrated graphics in the base T420 is better than the dedicated GPU in the T410. So if you're doing anything with HD video playback or light gaming or whatever, you'll want the T420.
well i didn't get scammed and it's in great condition. installing debian now, feeling super pleased. thanks for making me see the light /tpg/.
>>54614326
my nigga. T420 with Debian Sid is truly the best
>have Arch installed on x220 for a few months
>finally decide to do a pacman -Syu because it's been too long
>reboot and wifi support is now noexistant.. WTF?
I was really starting to think the "pacman breaks shit" meme was just a meme until now, never had a problem with multiple machines running Arch for about a year. Now it screws up wifi on a thinkpad of all things?
hello g
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
I've found a Latitude E5450 (i5 5300U, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD, 14" IPS @1366x768, accidental damage till 6/18) for 400 euros.
Should I go for it? Everything seems perfect for the price, but this 1366x768 holds me back... What should i do guys??
Why am I only getting 6hours out of my 9cell x200s?
These guys are getting 12, sometimes 15 hours worth of battery life.
>>54614698
I've been running Arch for a few months on an X220 as well. Nothing's broke, but I update daily.
>7 days since paying
>still not shipped despite "2 day handling time and next day shipping"
>seller won't respond to my messages
>has sold about 5 chinkpads in the past month with positive feedback
>ebay won't let me start a dispute yet
what do? Hold on for a while in case their dog's died and they're too distraught to send a quick reply or politely ask them to hurry things along again with a veiled threat of a dispute?
>>54614698
>use rolling release OS
>never update
literally why? It's all your fault.
If that's your style, switch your OS for something with longer update cycles, like Ubuntu.
Do old ThickBads like before T420 reads sdxc cards that are 128gb and above?
>>54614756
what are you doing on it, it could also be that your 9 cell is on the way out.
>>54614745
see if there is an alternate screen available otherwise i would probably pass on something at that size with 1366x768.
>>54613841
Hm, thanks. Though I would imagine t410 would be enough for HD vids and I didn't expect any gaming performance anyway.
>>54614899
shitposting, listening to music or watching videos
have linux on it. Is 6hours normal for ebay 9cells?
>>54615024
My T420 can't do youtube 720p 60 or 1080p 60, so I wouldnt count on the T410 doing too much.
>>54615203
if its a chink 9 cell then i would say yes. People getting good times are probably on legit 9 cells. See if your eligible for the free battery if you still have or old one and maybe that will get better life.
>>54615284
alrighty, thanks
>tfw I found a way to use the ThinkVantage button in Windows10
>>54615632
pls share, i have been trying to get the on one my x230 to work since i got it.
>>54615696
Enjoy.
http://www57.zippyshare.com/v/7J2YS35e/file.html
>>54615736
>winshit lusers have to download random dubious files to remap keyboard keys
>>54615759
I made that binary you cunt ;_;
>>54615769
As I was saying...
>>54615769
That only makes it worse.
>>54615781
>>54615784
It just creates a small service that binds whatever the fuck you want to the key you ungrateful fucks ;_;
AKA what Lenovo had in their drivers before stopping the support for it.
>>54615800
>100% guaranteed less botnet
>>54615800
I'm sure the Windows users are grateful. I however am laughing.
>>54615800
It's literally one command in Linux. For any key or combination.
Sad that you have to do this. I feel sorry for Windows users.
>>54615736
>http://www57.zippyshare.com/v/7J2YS35e/file.html
into the folder of useful stuff it goes, thankyou
>>54615828
I know, I dual boot Xubuntu and Windows, and the ThinkVantage button is useful. Lenovo were cunts for removing the feature and making people seek alternatives.
This is much better than hacking the registry (which worked under win7 but doesn't work with win10 anymore, as the thinkvantage button entry is completely gone).
>>54615238
My desktop 965BE can't do youtube 1080/60. Which is ridiculous, because it did 4k easily till they did something with their service.
>>54615888
My desktop is a 5820k so I have no issues, there.
Hopefully youtube can improve performance on lower end systems
>>54615873
I use mine to launch terminals. I've got a buddy who set his to update his system.
getting my recall battery for my x220 its a 6 cell what can i expect in terms of battery life
>>54616133
5-6 hours of light use.
>>54616214
Not that Anon, but I get that kind of life with the 4 cell on Linux.
>>54616242
I hear 9 cell gives about 9-10 hours, so I gave a rough estimate of 6 cell. Dunno how it is in real life, though.
>>54616273
It's worth noting that my 4 cell is brand fucking new, as well.
>>54616290
And my 6 cell is dead and barely does 3 hours. Can't wait for my new 9 cell.
>>54616308
>>54616330
I recently replaced my failing 6 cell. It's refreshing to be able to untether from the wall. Hope your battery is in good shape Anon.
My 9 cell on my x230 is at 85% capacity and does 9h with light use like browsing the web or listening to music.
4h with heavy use like playing a game or using heavy CAD software (rendering included).
>save up to buy new computer after 8 year old desktop bricks
>been running potato-compatible distros on it for the last 2 years
>family pleads with me to get a macbook air because "I'm a masters student" and "its what dedicated students need"
>spend 350$ on refurbished t420 (in canadian cuckbucks, approx 270$ american)
>spend 100$ upgrading specs
>install debian without a single fucking issue (is this even possible???)
>I now have 750$ to spare
THANK YOU BASED THINKPAD
>9-cell battery
>lasts 1 hour and 10 minutes of light use
d-d-do I need a new one?
>>54616501
y-yeah..
>>54613227
The 2520m is a sandy bridge i5
Does it exist a smaller charger for thinkpad, like pic related?
I got a new macbook retina, but my hands have started hurting because the keyboard is kinda weird, so i figured i should go back to my X61, but i would love to have a smaller charger desu
>>54616976
60w travel charger is as small as they get. Personally, I carry around the 90W because I'm not a pansy.
>>54616976
Does the phone charger with a plug adapter really charge the macbook?
>>54617132
yes, it's pretty innovative
>>54614838
Had this issue before. Turns out the seller didn't update with tracking info. Wait it out and open a case. If you're impatient and have money to spend start looking for alternatives in case this guy flakes.
>>54617132
>macbook
It's closer to an iPad with a keyboard than to a laptop, so yes.
Is there a way to tell, short of description or asking the seller, what resolution a T420 comes with?
>>54617506
Model number, take it and search lenovo's support website.
http://support.lenovo.com/us/en?linkTrack=hp_c3:r1_Search%20Product_Machine%20Search
Im a CE student and I really need a laptop for programming and small engineering simulations.
Are thinkpads still worth buying or will you spend a fortune adding a ssd, 8gb ram and non shitty battery?
Another problem is that i cant decide between the x220 and t420, i want something light weight with good battery life and my current laptop is 13" but 15" seems too big and 12" too small
>want a convertable laptop because I heavily enjoy drawing whilist and I spend 5 days out of 7 away from my computer
>oh man the x220T/x230T seems grea-
>screensize is meh (could be fixed by mod), sensors are 100% ass at the edges and nobody decided to make a ghetto calibration fix where you get 30 touch points near the edges of the screen
>to double up on that there's nearly no good sales on ebay (missed out on one of the best because import fees would've been 40% of the price)
>toshiba tablet laptops flat out don't exist anywhere for some reason
So far my only options are to either wait with a thumb up my ass or buy one of these shitty overheating tablet laptops.
Where did the market for this kind of shit go?
>>54617659
>a single goddamn inch difference is "too small"
>>54617659
The X220 is 12.5" and the T420 is 14"... It will take you 10 min to get over the difference from 13" whatever you choose.
>Are thinkpads still worth buying or will you spend a fortune adding a ssd, 8gb ram and non shitty battery?
Of course you will have to spend extra if it's not already included and you really want it.
>>54617665
x60t and swap the 1400x1050 display in.
>>54617659
go for the x60, it's still 12", but it has a better screen ratio so it feels like 15"
and get a desktop for your simulations, just ssh into it. running serious simulations on a laptop is retarded anyway because of the amount of heat and noise it will generate
>>54617569
Just gives me drivers. I think the screen is either 1366 x 760 or 1600 x 900. Obviously I would want the latter since I have feeble eyes.
>>54617809
I wish, the GPU and CPU of the x60T are a no no for my line of work and also I dabble in a few shitty MMOs from time to time.
Has anyone done any research into the whole idea of switching out a pressure screen behind the x230T's screen with a different one?
>>54615736
Do NOT install this creates mustard gas...
>>54617836
>using a 10 year old 32 bit laptop with shit battery life
kys
I took apart my x60 once. I was never able to get the cable management back to normal.
>>54617996
>he fell for the 64bit meme
3gb of ram is enough for everybody. also, my x60 running GNU/Linux and openbox is faster than your 64bit windows
>>54617569
Doesnt help when they list the incorrect model. Listing said 1600x900, model said 1600x900, unit received was 1366x768, baka. Knocked $60 off for that. Also was supposed to come with 8GB of RAM but came with 4GB instead, knocked another $40 off.
Total paid around $120 including shipping and fees.
Just replaced the 4GB it came with with 2x8GB DDR3, was an easy upgrade.
t420 shipping hasn't updated since yesterday at 7am
I want an update mannn
Why do thinkpads have so bad screen resolution? I was looking at a x230 with IPS display and it's resolution was fucking 1366x768. Is that resolution good enough with ips?
>>54618814
Because that's apparent what most people wanted. I find it tolerable so long as it's IPS.
>>54618863
Wont your eyes go bad while coding at that resolution?
>>54618892
You get used to it. Shit, we all used 640x480 and 800x600 for years, remember?
Computer Science freshman here. Will it be useful if I buy one of these? or I should stick with the good ol' laps?
>>54618892
Actually that's higher ppi than 24" 1080p
>>54618462
Nothing helps when they lie to you on what they're selling.
Complain about it, PayPal will side with you and you could get most of your money back if not a full refund.
>>54617874
The tabs at the top of the website change what aspect of the model you're viewing.
How are you enjoying your day anon?
>>54619857
Go away, windowsfag.
>>54620137
and here i was thinking i could get away with it
>>54619857
I'll have a better day when I see you wiping your keyboard clean of that dust
>>54614698
>Things that never happened
>>54615238
>T420 can't do youtube 720p 60
I find this hard to believe, since 720p @ 60 fps is effectively the same as 1080p @ 30 fps.
>>54618462
and what does the MTM say?
(http://tp.krelay.de/index.php, paste the machine type and click Search)
>>54619857
are you on 3G?
What would be the best upgrade from a T420 i5 16:9 ? something that can handle mid gaming better and not hard to upgrade
>>54620417
Yes it can. Mine does it fine. also 1080 but i don't notice a difference
>>54620137
at least he did only deface a chinkpad with that shit, it would have been worse if it was a real thinkpad desu
>>54620734
I own and love my X220.
What the fuck did you just say about my laptop, you little bitch?
>>54620503
Throw a quadcore i7 in it and upgrade the fan.
>>54620986
>upgrade fan
What.
TPfancontrol doesn't show any thermal sensors yet Speccy shows CPU temp.
What do?
I was wondering if i should upgrade my bios on my t520 im on 1.36
>>54620455
yes but i was only doing some writing and light browsing, shitty phone plan got me on 3 gb data
>>54620417
I just tested again to be sure.
Using a T420 with the i5-2520M, 16GB RAM, and iGPU. On the 768p panel. With a wired 150/150mbps connection.
1080p60 freezes every 1-3 seconds.
720p60 has hitches about once every 15-30 seconds. I have not been able to go past 30 seconds without at least one audio hiccup or video pause.
480p is flawless.
720p 30 is also fine.
Is 145$ a good price for t420 with 768p and normal HDD?
Are old Thinkpad batteries worthless or can i expect to survive 2h at least with a X230?
>>54621521
Yup, depending on physical condition and if it has an OS.
>>54621542
Almost mint shape, I would say and has windows 7. I think I dun goofed, cause I passed that offer. Ended 4 minutes ago d;
>>54621565
Then you dun goofed, most others will be ~$20-50 more for similar.
>>54621536
if you're buying used try to find a seller that lists remaining wh left in the battery, you might be able to find one close to factory spec
otherwise you might end up with one that holds charge for <5 mins
What's everyone's favorite model?
I favour the x200t
>>54621845
15" T6* Frankie, or X6* Tablet Frankie.
My T60 would benefit from more than 3GB of RAM (for those 4chan threads with image expansion). I got an NVS140 planar from TuuS, the other components should be trivial, even if expensive. Maybe I'll get a spare backup planar first...
>>54621485
What? My X220 with the same processor can handle 1080p60 with ease, I just tested it to be sure.
>>54621845
x31 = was my first Thinkpad
currently it's the t420 but I have a t430s, t430, x230 and x250.
Any good thinkpad models with dedicated graphics at a reasonable price? Don't need much just something that can run CS:GO and such at medium.
>>54621296
>What
Seconded.
How much of a processor difference between t420,430 &440 i7 ? Just using it for 2013 Office products and Programming for school.
Thinking about getting t460p, now that the 940MX model is available.
How does this look:
CPU: Intel Core i5-6440HQ MB
Display: 14.0 WQHD(2560 x 1440) IPS Non-Touch
Memory: 8GB DDR4-2133 SODIMM
HDD: 500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm, 2.5", SATA3
Battery: ThinkPad Battery 6 cell Li-Ion (72Wh) Cyl HC Rear
Web Price:$1,239.00
After Instant Savings:
$1,115.10
Should I bite? I currently have a t430s running arch linux that I bought refurb about 4 yrs ago now. It's since been upgraded to 12gb ram with an 120gb SSD and 300gb HHD. Honestly not really sure if it's worth upgrading. I have a couple years left of college, but I don't want to risk this laptop shitting the bed mid semester. Plus, the t460p is sexy and I have the money for it.
>>54622537
Get an SSD, seriously. If money is a concern, downgrade to 1080p screen. Seriously it wont matter on 14"
>>54622584
Seriously?
>>54622455
E450/460 has dGPU option.
>>54622601
Yes, I am super cereal
>>54622607
Thanks. £500 isn't the worst price, but it's a shame it costs so much for such a low end GPU system over here.
>>54622584
I'm >>54622537
Yeah you're right. I forgot how much of a difference the SSD made in my t430s, I've just gotten really used to it. It's only an additional $60, so I'll probably go for 128 gb ssd. I'm gonna look into the possibility of using an HDD as well via ultrabay, similar to what I did with my t430s.
My Dell e6430 will come Saturday.
I can't wait.
>>54622537
You from the US? Doesnt look like you're using the discount code.
>>54622601
It'd prob be cheaper to be an aftermarket ssd desu senpai
>>54622790
Probably not if you want OPAL.
They are overcharging of course, but you're also paying for the HDD.
....unless you have another use for that HDD.
>>54622702
Fuck, just realized the t460p doesn't have the ultrabay. This might change things.
>>54622769
I wasn't, thank you.
Updated with discount and 192gb SSD:
$1,004.25
I won't be able to add an HDD via ultrabay because there isn't one, so I'm not entirely sure if I should just go for the 512gb SSD.
>>54622859
he can get a 2.5" 500gb 850 evo for $140-$160. The speed difference would be immense over an hdd, think it supports opal 2.0
>>54622987
Forgot pic
>>54622939
You can always add a second SSD in the M.2 slot.
It's more expensive now, but it will probably be real cheap in a year or two.
>>54613119
>3 weeks
let me guess you ordered some chink shit that's probably worse than the factory 3 cell
>>54623060
All batteries are "chink shit".
Where do you think Lenovo sources their batteries?
>>54623090
the key is lenovo doesn't lie to you about the batteries capacity, and actually gives you halfway decent li-ion batteries
there IS a huge difference between pretty much any chink shit battery and a factory original
My x260 arrived today. I use Fedora. Are there any Linux specific packages I should install for better support?
>>54622493
>How much of a processor difference between t420,430 &440 i7 ? Just using it for 2013 Office products and Programming for school.
???
>>54623114
From the tests I've read original Thinkpad batteries are average at best.
The main issue is batteries simply shitting themselves after 1-2 years.
Stated capacities on new batteries are usually fine. - they all use standardized cells anyways.
>>54623090
They have to pass standards and safety regs to be sold in the US and EU. Cheap batteries often don't have required safety features. Which is why they're cheap. And if they don't outright explode, they'll likely fuck your shit up in other ways. Read about it.
Any Ausfags want a cheapish T430 with dedicated graphics? I was going to buy this but the seller was taking too long in replying to my message, so I ordered another from the states.
It's not currently listed as the nvidia model, but it definately is as this was the quesiton I asked the seller.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/231947261858?euid=2d5839ef4adf458caac11300a58ace3e&bu=44492110690&cp=1&sojTags=bu=bu
>>54623222
>They have to pass standards and safety regs to be sold in the US and EU. Cheap batteries often don't have required safety features.
Anything that gets exported to the EU has to follow the exact same safety standards.
>>54623052
Oh true. Luckily, it seems like this is only possible with the t460p too. I'm probably gonna go for it.
>>54623429
No it doesn't. See the idiots buying knock off crap in the CSG thread.
>>54623060
Fuck off. I ordered the genuine battery, but from ebay because it's both cheapest and fastest for me.
>>54623471
>No it doesn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking
>>54623545
Those can be faked you fucking moron. Just because something has a CE mark doesn't mean shit. How fucking ignorant are you?
>>54623545
Read the misuse section you dumb fuck. They're routinely faked. Or simply stuck to shit that doesn't meet regs.
>>54623545
omg
>>54618409
>3gb of ram is enough for everybody
not even close. I'm using over 3 gigs of ram right now and I'm just looking at the internet
and dont say swap counts, if you are swapping then you need more ram
>>54618814
eh 13shittyshit is fine on a 12" screen.
don't get me wrong, it's not great, but it's ok
the only other res that would work on a screen that size is 1440x900/1600x900. anything higher than that needs scaling, and since it doesn't run mac os scaling is not an acceptable option.
>>54623578
>>54623608
>>54623628
Unless you order from some shady site it will be perfectly fine.
>>54623660
Well, we've made it whole 4 hours without replying to an obvious bait. I'm a bit proud, but I'm still disappointed in the retard that replied.
>>54623698
Unless you take it apart and inspect it you won't know shit.
>>54619857
are you eating cheetos ON your computer?
fucking clean that disgusting shit off
>>54621362
no
>>54621536
depends on how shitily you treat them.
>>54623708
>implying that I don't know it's bait
>replying to my bait
>>54623780
I baited your dad into banging your mom.
My bait birthed you.
GET
FUKD
>>54622537
>1440p screen
>14"
>windows
no
>HDD
absolutely no
What should I do with the empty mPCI-e slot in my T400?
I want to play CS:GO, do work for uni, and code. Is a T420 enough?
>>54624232
Yes, I was playing Cs:GO on my GT 610, which is a fermi card that performs exactly like a quadro 4200m.
mfw when in law saw my y 20's and asked if they are real old because of how the look:(
when neice just got an expensive new laptop with worse specs but looks "new"
everytime
>>54624528
>"Core 2 duo mbp for $400? What a great deal!"
Fucking normies, they can keep their shit hardware, more for us.
Need a new laptop so I thought I'd go for a used memepad since that's what /g/ recommends, which one should I get? I want a model with an IPS display.
Alternatively, how would I go about upgrading a regular T420 with a FHD IPS panel?
Can we make this a consumer laptop hate thread? God they're horrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD3uFyvrelU
>>54625015
The regular T420 panel upgrade causes flickering issues and until those are resolved production is not going forward.
The T420s panel upgrade is good though.
>>54625060
So I should get a T420S if I want to upgrade it to the IPS panel?
Do you know where to get the panels from?
Also one other question, do you think the T420 could handle some Civilization 5?
So what's the thinnest/lightest thinkpad available for light gaming, emulation and programming? X220 is recommended, but I can't find many pics showing width or any weight stats.
>>54625152
http://shop.lenovo.com/ISS_Static/ww/wci/us/ww/pdf/x220_datasheet.pdf
Page 3.
>>54625108
the t420s supports a 1080 upgrade(mod), but the the computer has bad battery life and overheating problems
>almost got an x301 sans HDD for $65 the other day
>somone out jewed me for $66 last minute
Yeah I'm mad
Can currently get a Thinkpad T460p from Lenovo with student discount plus an extra 19% off with their code
hnnnngg I'm pulling the trigger on one.
>>54626002
Do it, if you got the dough it's a cool ass laptop.
So, I somehow got conky to work, and noticed the temps when doing an upgrade just a bit ago.
Is this normal/acceptable for the i7-2640M in a T420s? Seams a bit toasty. I cleaned and applied Arctic Silver 5 when I got it a couple weeks back. It idles in the upper 40s.
>>54626233
it's a T420s AND the i7.
The T420 is known to overheat with the i7. And the T420s is known to overheat even on the i5, let alone an i7.
90C+ doesn't shock me.
>>54626233
>i7
>s model
Double retardation
Is the E-450 processor on the x130e a good processor/mobo? I want to mod my x120e by putting a x130e mobo in it.
Is it a good idea?
>>54626233
OS/DE?
>>54626523
Don't even mess with or put any money into an e series, get a T420 or X220 and call it a day.
>>54626585
Vanilla Fedora 23 with Dash to Dock and conky.
>>54626251
The T Junction is 100C, and I saw it hit 97C a few times. Pretty sure it was throttling, too. Oh well.
>>54626279
Dunno, man. It's damn fast with an SSD.
>>54626595
But I love my x100e size, weight and design. I know the x100e overheating so I want the same thing but more powerful and no overheating. The x220 is nice yet Idk the x100e/x120e is hella cute
How do I update my x220 bios? all the downloads from the lenovo website are .exe
>>54627073
I installed Windows 7 to an old hard drive, temporarily put it in the laptop, booted it, did the bios update, then tossed the hard drive in the drawer.
Thinking of selling or trading my T420, how much should i ask?
>i5
>upgraded screen
>factory 120gb ssd, recovery partition and discs
>8gb ram
>9cell
>wwan
>wifi n/bluetooth
>nvidia graphics
I like it to burn discs but I could get a external drive for my desktop to do that. X220 looks ight.
>>54627157
that keyboard tray would be a comfy place to put a dock.
pls for the love of god update
>>54627219
I'm in socal, I hate when my packages are stuck in that industrial santa fe springs area.
>>54627219
>fedex
She's dead, Jim.
>>54626002
What does the price come down to? Is it cheaper than the Corporate Perks discount? I'm currently debating between the 4th Gen X1 and the T460s.
>>54626002
what is this extra code you speak of? Help a poorman
>>54626002
>Can currently get a Thinkpad T460p from Lenovo with student discount plus an extra 19% off with their code
>hnnnngg I'm pulling the trigger on one.
Cheaper than this?
>>54627305
pls don't say that
>>54627404
>20GB RAM
What a weird ass amount, maybe I'm a newfag, but I though computers did things by 2's 4's and 8's, a multiple of 5 is weird.
>>54627404
That's the price with a 128GB SSD and the crappy 1080p screen.
>>54627442
Well gimme da code desu. So I store all my imgzz
>>54627433
It's got 4GB soldered to the motherboard, then it has a single DIMM slot, the largest size DIMM you can fit is 16GB for 20GB total.
>>54627485
Oh I see, I forgot about soldered memory, I still use a T410.
>>54627502
It's rarely used so not all that unusual for you to be confused. I only know because I was reading about it a couple of months ago on the T450s. I assume it's the same on the T460s
>>54627421
Those fucks held my T420 one state away for a week, then when they finally moved it they took it to another adjacent state. Somehow it ended up with USPS instead and they delivered it.
How bad is the T420's default display? Since everyone talks about upgrading it.
>>54627594
If it was UPS surepost, or Fedex Smartpost, both of these are USPS last mile service. Meaning Fedex/UPS does the backend hauling, USPS delivers it. But this usually takes and extra day or two at least while USPS takes charge of the package, sorts and distributes it, then delivers it.
>>54627675
If you owned a laptop in the 2005-2013 range with a TN panel, you know what to expect. These days most TNs are getting better with their colors and viewing angles, but still obviously not as good as an IPS.
>>54627675
Not terrible, but it wasn't good when it came out, and it's even worse by todays standards. I reccomend swapping it with the Alienware Panel or x1 carbon oanel.
>>54627714
>The alienware panel
Specifics?
>>54627675
>How bad is the T420's default display? Since everyone talks about upgrading it.
I switched mine with the Alienware compatible panel last week. Broke my keyboard in the process. Got new keyboard this week and installed it, finally able to check out the screen (power button is on the keyboard, of course). Fuck laptop maintenance.
At this point, I'm not sure the screen was worth the cost and hassle. Nothing I've viewed has made me say "oh wow this is so much better than stock"
If your original screen breaks, though, no reason not to replace it with the better one. I just wouldn't say the upgrade is worth it if your OEM display is still working
>>54627777
What
Honestly it just sounds like you're clumsy as fuck or didn't know what you were doing. How the fuck do you break the keyboard? Watch a youtube video next time.
>>54627770
>it's the panel from the alienware M14X R2, which is the exact form factor as the T420's original screen (provided you have the 1600x900 one, otherwise you also need an upgraded cable)
see http://www.laptopscreen.com/English/model/Dell/ALIENWARE~M14X~R2/
>>54627833
He broke the cable removing the keyboard because he yanked it out like a mong. If you're gentle it's not a problem, but I can see how a clumsy fuck who is too good to watch videos would manage it.
>>54627834
What do I need to do to get it to work with the 1366*768 model?
just picked up a t430, gonna be replacing my t420. using it as main computer with dock
>>54622271
I found out what it was, Chrome is retarded and barely uses the iGPU for youtube.
Moving to Firefox saw CPU use go from 60-80% utilization to 30-40%.
>>54627833
keyboard connectsto mobo with a little ribbon cable that tears like paper.
it also has a conveniently knife-sharp metal bracket over the point where it folds. Cut the cable clean in two and sliced open the pad of my finger when I touched it.
Meanwhile, the jack that mates that cable to the mobo is a friction fit. I had to take mine off with a huge set of snubnose pliers, after wedging a flathead screwdriver underneath. Probably couldn't have done it with the rest of the cable (and keyboard) still attached.
You can't replace the cable by itself because one end is mated to the keyboard PCB with a heat seal, another end to the trackpoint mouse controller with direct soldering onto edge launch pins. So the only option is a new keyboard.
Anyone have a kernel .config for x220?
Planning to get my first Thinkpad in a week or so.
>t420
>Intel i5-2410 CPU @ 2.3GHz
>4 GB RAM
>500 GB HDD.
I'm def adding in 8GB of RAM. As for the hard drive, I want to get an SSD. Would I have to get rid of the 500gb HDD or would it be better to get a caddy adapter and move it there?
I've heard from several posts that mixing SSD with HDD isn't a good idea, and hybrids are the way to go.
Also, is upgrading the CPU frowned upon?
>>54628855
>Planning to get my first Thinkpad in a week or so.
>>t420
good choice brother
>I'm def adding in 8GB of RAM
the T420 has two RAM slots -- one is easily accessible form the bottom (expansion RAM) and the other requires removing the keyboard. With the 4GB model yours will have the expansion slot empty and the 4GB OEM module in the under-keyboard slot.
>Would I have to get rid of the 500gb HDD or would it be better to get a caddy adapter and move it there?
i don't know, but
>I've heard from several posts that mixing SSD with HDD isn't a good idea, and hybrids are the way to go.
this is dumb, the best option is still:
OS on a (smaller) SSD
Data on a (larger) HDD
Hybrid drives are meh, and uncommon in laptop form factors, you'll pay a premium.
>Also, is upgrading the CPU frowned upon?
I think the CPUs are not user-serviceable.
>>54628855
>mixing SSD and HDD isn't a good idea
erm, why, since it's the best option if you want both speed and storage.
>*20
You have the perfect laptop for this, *20 series and up supports msata SSDs which are falling in price to match their 2.5" counterparts so there's no reason not to and installation is like a ram stick. You can also sacrifice your dvd drive for a hdd caddy. I have an msata ssd in my T520 along with two 1TB drives
What is the story with the X1?
>>54628909
>With the 4GB model yours will have the expansion slot empty and the 4GB OEM module in the under-keyboard slot.
Mine came with 2x2GB. Both DIMMs were filled.
Just replaced with 2x8GB today.
>>54628955
I see no problem with Hd ad SSd, I use 2 ssd's in mine. but the HDD would be storage.
anyways. for me. what would be the step up model from a T420 to play mild gaming on?
but sure you could get a storage ssd for cheaper now . but i mean or you could get a 1-2 tb storage HDD for cheaper
After much research I know nothing more and am just confused.
What's the best display you can upgrade the T420 to?
>>54628970
>Mine came with 2x2GB. Both DIMMs were filled.
Actually there was an option for this when buying it, I completely forgot.
You could opt for 2x2gb or slightly more for 1x4gb, to ease upgrading.
So, anon's might be either.
>>54628542
>Chrome is retarded
Is my most common troubleshooting conclusion. But not all is lost.
Fiddle with acceleration settings, HTML5 playback, and stuff like that, should be an easy fix. Chromium on my X220 has acceleration turned on in the settings.
>>54629054
Yeah, though I have to admit, replacing the RAM under the keyboard was a lot simpler than I was thinking. I watched a video yesterday, did it myself today from memory in 5 minutes.
Only real thing i was unsure about was the pressure required to unhinge the keyboard, but it popped up fairly easily upon applying forward pressure, and that answered my question.
10/10 would upgrade RAM again.
>>54629019
i have 1600x900 on mine. i think that is the best...
>>54629139
Mine has it turned on too, just refuses to work properly. Or firefox does something magical to use less resources to display the same thing.
Either way firefox works fine even if I can't get chrome working.
>>54620269
that's.... not... dust.....
>>54628909
Thank you good sir.. I'll stick to just the ssd & ram upgrades
>>54628556
>You can't replace the cable by itself because one end is mated to the keyboard PCB with a heat seal
It's not a heat seal. It's mechanically clamped to the keyboard membrane (there is no keyboard PCB) by a metal bracket and a piece of rubber foam.
Impulsively bid on an auction for a used x220
Won it for $215+15(shipping)
It has 8gb of ram
Intel Core i5-2540M
IPS
320GB 7200 RPM
9-Cell battery
Okay deal? Or did I make a mistake in price value?
>>54629778
Good deal, you enjoy that shit.
>>54629778
That's pretty neat. From what I've noticed, many x220s seem to come with 6-Cell batteries. With that, plus the 8gb of RAM, you don't have much to upgrade. Get an SSD, (maybe another 8GB RAM) and you're good to go.
Will the T420 with i5-5250M be able to handle 4K H.265 videos?
Which is the lightest of the x series from the buyers guide?
My gf has been using my x61T for a while and quite likes it except for the fact that it is too heavy for her.
>>54630389
You need to buy her a weight set because these damn things are not heavy.
>>54630389
>x61t
>heavy
What is she nine? Neat, good luck Anon.
A linux distro for my x220t that supports the wacom screen pen input on the same level as windows does?
I got one off ebay for 230 American with Windows 10 and I don't feel comfortable trading muh freedumbs, so I'll try some linux before I breakdown and go all the way back to 7 or 8.
>>54630446
>>54630626
It is 1.9kg. An ipad is 800g, a samsung notebook is 1.2kg.
It is relatively heavy.
Even an x220 is 1.5kg. When you have a 30 min walk from home to the station then another 30 min from the station to uni you do not want a lot of weight in your bag.
>>54630852
Do you have some legitimate medical ailment that makes it so you cant carry 5 lbs?
I was homeless (had a place to sleep but i lived out of a bag) and my t420's weight wasnt even noticeable.
>>54630879
Reread the replychain homeless anon. Also a bit different if you are carrying just the laptop or if you are carrying the laptop + 6kg worth of uni books + however much your lunch, water and the rest of your shit weighs.
I was suppose to get it next week .-.
Why is there customer support outside the US so shitbox?
>>54616356
what brightness settings are you getting these kind of times on?
I just bought a Dell E6430 for $350 AUD (i7 3540, NVS5200M)
The battery is real shitty, is it bad to buy a replacement 9 cell battery from ebay?
The OEM batterys are too expensive for me atm
why do people recommend upgrading ram to 8gb or more? 4gb is not that bad on a laptop..
>>54630900
I feel ya and yo girl, anon.
I've asked the same question a week ago and only got "r u gay?? X220 is a feather you sissy" in response.
It ain't a fucking feather if I already have five other "feathers" in my backpack. X220 may not be the heaviest laptop, but I wouldn't be asking this question if it was easy for me to carry it.
>>54627404
I though the T460s had a slimmer build and its not as robust as the T460(p)?
>>54627321
>>54627356
code is CLASSICSAVER I think.
Lenovo's website is being shit right now so I can't log into my cart and check. I'm in the UK so it may not work in US.
It works for all Thinkpad models as I was considering an X260, T460, T460p and a T560 and they all had the discount applied.
What's so good about thinkpads? Recently broke my spectre x360 and hp doesnt want to replace it. What's the best thinkpad for light school work?
>>54632407
Thinkpad 13
>>54625656
Even if this person bid $1000, only your bid+$1 would be charged.
Learn how eBay works.
Im not sure whether i should buy a memepad or a normal laptop.
I have been offered a Thinkpad x230 with IPS display, i7 CPU, SSD and one years warranty for 500. The thing im most worried about is the battery life since a new one goes for almost 100 euros
>>54627834
Does it require EDID wizardry to get installed?
