Why the HELL is 4chan so obsessed with Linux? I tried it out and it's fucking stupid. You have to memorize a bunch of archaic commands and type them all in the right order just to get anything done, like some sort of secret club handshake. Here's an idea, follow the lead of other operating systems and let us click on things and not read big walls of text!
>>54624759
>$0.10 have been deposited into your Microsoft account
guaranteed replies
Summer really is upon us
>Internet Arguments
niceme.me
>>54624759
Install Gentoo or go to Reddit, retard.
>>54624759
How does your browser look like that if you are running windows?
>>54624987
>$0.00 have been deposited into your Linux account
>>54624759
>>54625283
>tech-illiteracy
>>54624759
>You have to memorize a bunch of archaic commands and type them all in the right order just to get anything done, like some sort of secret club handshake.
On Windows you have to memorize a bunch of maze-like menus to get anything done. Have you ever tried enabling IIS? Who the fuck thought that was an acceptable process?
>>54624759
then why did Windows add BASH?
>>54624759
0/10
At least use a ubuntu screenshot for more effective trolling
>>54625333
GOOD FUCKING QUESTION
Now there's even less reason for Linux tards to exist
>>54624987
>please drink a verification can to continue
>>54625351
>>54624759
maybe it's because windows is built on a base of obsolete software that, instead of fixing (to maintain "compatibility" for all the corporate dicks they suck), they'd rather pile on new layer after layer of bullshit and token features that look smooth on the surface but are supported by a truly horrendous mountain of shit
instead of owning up to their mistakes and fixing their bullshit they'd rather just throw Bash on the pile of shit (it's not like cygwin hasn't existed since 1995) and pretend like they're "hip" to this new world where you can have a better OS for a grand total of $0
microsoft has no future. enjoy using your shitty OS and turning into the grumpy old man who won't change with the times
>>54624759
> follow the lead of other operating systems and let us click on things and not read big walls of text!
or you can just avoid linux if you want a simple point and click os.
Wincuck here with a few questions:
Why does everyone go on about how you need to use the command line to use Linux? I've seen plenty of screenshots of Linux graphical desktops, in what way is it so different from Windows that you have to use the command line for everything? Does Linux not have a graphical file manager like Windows Explorer?
>>54624759
Fuck off and learn how to use a computer Pajeet.
>>54626465
There is.
OP has just been let out from high school for the summer and decided to use his computer illiteracy to try this "trolling" thing he's heard about on Tosh.0
>>54624759
>opera
>win10
>folder called internet arguments
>doom
no reason to read OP, it's pretty obvious he is severely impaired
>>54624759
Because it makes them feel smarter than and above Windows users. The reality is that a Windows developer will be 10x more productive than a Linux one because the Windows one doesn't have to do a bunch of jumping through hoops to install things an do shit.
>>54625549
I would rather be using a modern operating system built by professional developers in the industry that is also on top of obsolete software that is built by professional developers in the industry.
Fuck off and go use your hobbyist created freeware bullshit, tard. meanwhile I'll be over here enjoying my industry software.
>>54624759
>>54625283
>>54626674
go home pajeet, shoo, shoo
>>54626654
I know, this is why there's so much more Windows programs
>>54626705
This is your average /g/ Linux user everyone.
When confronted with hard facts about how their operating system of choice is shit, they will start screaming and yelling about how big of a memer and troll you are, because they don't want to accept that all the horrible pain and tears that went into configuring their "advanced" operating system was ultimately fruitless because in the end their OS is still inferior to the very one they tried to escape from.
Good fucking work Linux fags. Good work indeed.
>>54626674
>YAH BUT HOW DO I RUN GAMES ON LINUX
>>54625322
Agreed, and when the UI inevitably fucks up, diagnosing the issue can be a nightmare on Windows. Generally it's easier on Windows to restore a full system image than to try any troubleshooting.
>>54626654
>the Windows one doesn't have to do a bunch of jumping through hoops to install things
apt-get install program vs. search online for your program, wade through shady download sites, download an executable file and run it (!!!), carefully read every screen because it tries to install adware along with your program because shekels. Oh and then you get to do all this again for each of your programs to get the latest version instead of just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.
>>54624759
>Muh commands
either copy pasta or he took the gentoo meme seriously. I'm not retarded and figured out the commands, but if you need a GUI, install Ubuntu GNU/Linux.
If you researched at all, you would know that it's called GNU/Linux, not Linux. Linux is the kernel.
All those commands you type are GNU.
>>54625308
>being this retarded
>>54626743
why are you still here, you want money or what
>>54626749
You're a dumbass.
Do you seriously think that gaming is the only thing you lose by switching to Linux? Holy shit dude, you must have not done any work with industry standard software on Windows. Otherwise you'd realize too what you lose and miss out on.
Why the Hell would you rather use freeware created by hobbyist dipshits sharing in a hipster ideology instead of using a robust and advanced software with more features?
Freeware is always going to pale in comparison to that which is paid, because that is how basic economics works.
If you do not know what I mean, then you need to not type a reply to me. You instead need to go read on how the economy works, how products work, and how competition works as well.
>>54626787
OH HEY LOOK I CAN WORK WITH C# MOMMY
>>54626787
because most of those robust and advanced features are just things designed to ensure that you have to keep using (and paying money for) the software instead of switching to a competing product or to free software. Proprietary companies devote more effort to locking you in than to implementing better functionality, because once you are locked in, they can just sit back and rake in money from you because they've made it too difficult to leave. Who would want to get involved in that?
>>54626804
C# works on Linux too you dolt.
I'm not talking about that.
Why would you abandon for example, Adobe Photoshop, to work with a freeware alternative made and maintained by a hobbyist such as Gimp? And that's just one example! Why would you abandon industry standard software used by professionals only to resort to using inferior tools?
It doesn't make any sense to me. This is why I genuinely believe that anyone using Linux as their primary desktop or for anything that isn't a server is just a fucking dumbass hipster moron.
No one I have asked this question to has ever been able to answer this. I've also asked it to all of my retarded Linux babby friends too, and they have no answer.
Do you?
Just use the software that you're most productive on. windows for msword and other proprietary things, linux for everything else. That's just what's best for me. Jesus christ you aspie fucks, get over it and stop being this retarded. it's like I'm on a /g/ thread or something.
>>54626787
>industry standard
What industry?
>>54626787
>Industry standard software
Like you use any. Your desktop is filled with video games.
>Freeware
You're confused. This is Free software not freeware
>Hobbyist
Commits are pushed by professionals every single day. GNU/Linux is regularly audited by security pros.
>Freeware sucks compared to paid software
Free Software* Compare the GNU coreutils to that of Berkley or UNIX utilities.
Also take at look at RHEL and Debian's use in servers.
Some more examples, friend.
>uTorrent
-Ads
-Bitcoin miner
-Non-Free
-Pay4adRemoval
>Deluge
-Free as in freedom
-Free as in cost
-No bitcoin miner
-No ads
>>54624759
>Windows
>ever
comfy shitposter with fast free software
>>54626787
I'm sure this is why Windows has the best developer tools and the latest version of the hottest programming tools. It's always the first to get support for new platforms and libraries!
And good libraries and software platforms always come from big enterprises.
No good software runs on a Linux. That's why Redis only supports Windows, Node.js came out first on Windows, and developers prefer windows notebooks.
You're so right anon, thanks for opening my eyes.
>>54626826
>because most of those robust and advanced features are just things designed to ensure that you have to keep using (and paying money for)
This is literally the worst argument I've ever heard on this.
>"Hey why did you buy that car? The one with the advanced airbag and things that make it perform more effectively and safer?"
>"Don't you know those features are only there because they want to lock you into keeping it? Why didn't you just use this cheap shitty junker over here?"
This is fucking insane dude. Come on now.
>>54626787
Hi smart guy,
You're 100% correct. Everyone develops enterprise software on windows or mac. However, you're on /g/ right now. The level of satire is removed from reality at least 5x. Now that you've made your smart comment of the day, enjoy this picture <<
>>54626864
It does though.
Shit dude, here - https://www.jetbrains.com/rider/ This is JetBrains' new C# IDE.
It's not even out on Linux yet. It's only out on Mac and Windows.
>>54624759
Linux is not for everyone.
>>54625374
i remember this
>>54626836
>Adobe Photoshop
It works under wine. The easier front end for people who don't want to pay is PlayOnLinux (it applies to things other than muh gaymz). For business users there's crossover - a paid option that offers support when certain programs don't behave as expected.
>>54626893
But i already have an IDE
>>54626852
Terminology is irrelevant. My points still remain.
And also, do not take exceptions to this general rule and then try to say that it counts for everything.
UTorrent does suck. Deluge is better. Shit I even uninstalled UTorrent for Deluge myself. But does that mean that free software is always better than paid software just because this one paid application over here is worse than the free one? That's retarded logic to use. The majority of paid software is better than free software. You have no way of arguing against that because it is simply the truth.
>>54624759
Use linux on servers. Use windows/osx for normal user interaction and use SSH to manage linux server.
That's how everyone that isn't a retard use linux. Anyone else is an extremist and you should disregard their opinion.
>>54626872
Fallacy of analogy. Just because scenarios share property 'X' does not imply they share property 'Y'.
Congratulations anon, you've said nothing.
>>54626893
>C# tool
Wow, I'm impressed! The thing I love about C# is the rich community -- there are so many developer groups providing rich libraries for it! I can manage services, and schedule massively parallel tasks with simple libraries. It's really great. It's not like 99% of C# tools come from one company.
>>54626836
>GIMP is bad
It's not though. It's just as effective as photoshop once you learn it.
t. Tit Enhancer
>>54626912
Oh you're right - Yeah, running the software through a buggy simulator. The is exactly the same as the software being released on Linux and receiving full support. Mhm.
>>54626893
>C#
Really? Why would you use C# over anything? I'm not even trying to piss you off, I really want to know why on earth someone would choose C# over literally any other language.
>>54626930
I am using it as an example.
Christ almighty, would you like to quit being a contradictory passive aggressive sarcastic pussy and just address the point itself? It's getting tiresome. If you don't provide a real argument in the next post I'll just ignore you.
>>54626932
the thing with GIMP and PS is that their interfaces are both so complex, and both so jarringly different, that everyone who uses one or the other gets baby-duck syndrome over it.
>The majority of paid software is better than the FOSS alternative.
Name one.
MS-Office -> Libreoffice
Photoshop -> GIMP
Notepad++ -> Emacs
f.lux -> Redshift
To name a few.
>>54626925
what are you trying to prove here? you want everyone to install windows and eradicate linux entirely?
>>54626954
I used Project Rider as an example of a commercial product being created without Linux even being in the spotlight, but Windows and Mac being the first ones to receive support for it.
Are you also a Javafag? Would you like me to put up some arguments about how Java lacks alot of features that other languages have? And how the JVM is a piece of shit? Will that make you even more in denial?
>>54624759
>that's how everyone that isn't a retard use linux.
>that isn't a retard use linux
>use linux
I will use Linux thank you very much.
>>54626981
I'm not trying to make anyone install anything. I'm just tired of listening to these pro-Linux retards who try to sit here and act like they're somehow better than everyone else for using shitty free software alternatives to paid software.
So far I'm right too: No one has provided me any real reasons why I should use a free software alternative made by a hobbyist to an industry standard paid product created and maintained by professionals.
>>54626940
>simulator
WINE isn't a simulator. WINE Is Not an Emulator.
>>54626961
A C# tool isn't a **compelling** example. Of course there are tools that support Windows and not Linux. That doesn't make me want to use Windows, because those tools aren't valuable to me. If you want it, fine, take it. But I am not alone in my valuation, and you're foolish to ignore that. The future doesn't need Windows.
Windows developers have a major case of Stockholm syndrome.
>>54626940
>buggy simulator.
Several versions of photoshop run flawlessly under Wine. Which do you prefer?
>>54626963
Nah, Gimp was just garbage. I haven't used it recently, but when I did, you couldn't even separate the RGB channels.
>>54626836
>industry standard software
Which industry? This is only relevant if you're working in a specific job anyway. You use the tools that enable you to complete the tasks you want, and sometimes that tool is a Linux desktop. The lines are not as clear-cut as you think.
Protip: guess which animation company is a RHEL desktop user... I'll give you a clue, it's related to Steve Jobs in some way.
>>54626982
Could have built it in C++....
>>54627008
Again, I'm not talking about Photoshop, or any program in particular. I'm talking about in general.
>>54625322
I know we're in a troll thread, but I've never agreed with a post here more than this.
Fuck IIS. Fuck IIS to death. Fuck everybody who let that ship, their families, and their dogs. People wonder why we make fun of Windows and Microsoft products, and it's because shit like IIS exists.
>>54626940
>Buggy simulator
This is how i know you're just spewing FUD. You talk about software which you know absolutely nothing about. WINE Converts windows system calls to GNU/Linux system calls. If you had skewed over the FAQ for 15 minutes you would know this information.
>>54627029
You're a moron. You can talk "in general", you have to talk specific cases. People do not do everything on their computer, edit images for a living, write books, design products, program... There's no point talking about "industry standard" software unless you specify the industry. Linux excels in some areas, Windows excels in others.
Free software is full of paid engineers working full-time on software. Just because you can use it for free does not mean somebody hasn't spent a lot of money developing it.
>>54627004
holy fucking shit bro, keep in mind that there's a board for my little pony. think about that for a second. people have aspergers syndrome. use the software that works for you, get over it and stop taking retards so seriously. i use linux but i'm not about to tell you why i prefer it over windows because you probably don't care. you shouldn't care because it's my goddamn computer. run whatever the hell you want, i don't care. whatever is easiest for you, use it and mind your own business. so simple.
>>54627029
The only thing one really "needs" Windows for is CAD/CAM software.
>>54626864
>node.js
>good
>>54627097
>>54627004
Why do all these people bitch about Linux users? I don't think most Linux users give a damn if you use Linux.
If you want to strap digital handcuffs on yourself and use a far inferior operating system go right ahead.
>>54627097
clojurescript targeting it is pretty comfy.
People who can't use the terminal in linux are incapable of learning (read: stupid).
It's not hard at all.
I can understand someone who don't care about computers not bothering with it, but if you claim to be into "technology" then it should be easy as fuck for you to manage the fucking terminal.
The average user prefers GUI over the terminal, which is fine, but tech savvy people should have no problems whatsoever using a terminal. It's literal childsplay.
>>54626836
Industry standard software like Davinci Resolve, Lightworks, R, Mathematica, IntelliJ, and Eclipse?
Adobe CS isn't the only software under the sun, you fucking dolt. You're touting products from the same retards that brought you such secure, performant products like Flash as the do-all-end-all in professional software.
Linux does a lot of things right, windows does a lot of things right.
Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Linux has the weakness that you need over 50IQ to use it, which leaves a lot people out.
>>54627109
It's because when someone posts they use Windows here, about 50 people reply with snarky ass head up their ass bullshit. It's fucking dumb.
>>54627122
Good luck being hired for anything that doesn't use your retarded meme OS then nigger.
>>54626764
You say that as if you don't have to do the same shit in linux as well.
Not everything is available through apt-get.
>>54627135
And there it is.
>"lol im so smart xD i use linux lol xD ebin exd lol i use da linxu lol xDDDDD"
Kill yourself.
Linux is literally a fucking OS fedora. It's like me saying
>hey you're christian(you use windows?) well I'm an atheist(I use Linux)so I'm smarter than you lol. -tips fedora- (-opens terminal-)
>>54626764
What about software that isn't available through apt-get though? You realize that if you can't get it through fucking apt-get, you have to find what repository it is available under, open up the sources list, put it in, do apt-get update, and then do the install command again? That's about like 5 more minutes than it would have taken under Windows where all you would have had to do was just find the installer and download and install it.
>>54627155
What's not available? On ubuntu based systems you can add a launchpad PPA and be done. Plus there is a significant risk factor from installing a .deb vs running a .exe
Name one program you've had a problem finding. One. So i know you're speaking from experience and not FUD.
>>54627155
>>54627177
Really? Because everything I've ever needed and much else besides is.
>>54627145
Hey faggot, you still didn't address that an appreciable amount of professional software is available on Linux.
>>54627159
You're not a fedoralord for being right. Linux definitely isn't doesn't have name recognition and occasionally requires to actually understand what you're doing, as opposed to watching Pajeet drag out some video on an ultra obtuse process that Microsoft thought was "intuitive".
>>54627177
I'd rather take the five minutes now than five minutes every fucking time I need to update the program.
>>54627177
>find the installer and download
You can do the same in Linux. In the case of debian-based systems you download a .deb file (similar to a .exe installer) and install it.
I don't understand how idiot Windows users can't get it through their heads that they are literally corporate shills for defending Windows. You are helping put money into Satya Nadella's pockets. Just shut the fuck up and use your overpriced shit OS. Please.
>>54627191
i couldn't find call of duty mw3 on apt-get, or ms word. your move lincuck.
Look, man. Allow me to explain it to you, heart to heart, window to window.
Ever since I was a kid, I used and loved Windows. I like Windows a lot. I love its name. Its system. The way it handles everything feels incredibly natural to me.
Even after being on /g/ for as long as I have been, and trying Linux out for myself, I still think I have very few reasons to switch. But I have identified plenty of reasons an average 4chan user would.
Point one: Privacy. 4chan as a whole has always been very protective of the idea of complete anonymity and total freedom. Most attempts to undermine such have been laced with backlash from the users.
Microsoft has a history of issues revolving around privacy and the free market, dating back to the Internet Explorer crisis and beyond. Especially after the Snowden leaks and Windows 10's purported cowtowing to PRISM, people here have come to distrust Microsoft, for various reasons unique to each one of them.
Point two: Validation. Linux is "cool." Its a relatively new, small thing that offers a lot of appealing traits that could entice even the staunchest of Windows or OSX users to give it a look. It's minimal. Its customizable. And it IS quite fast. And most of all, it costs nothing but the hard drive space it sits on. Some people can take the loss of Office or AutoCAD for that.
Point three: Ideology. A lot of people here dont like the way Windows is distributed and handled. They want software to be free and edited by people like them. Naturally, as people are, they migrate to a system that befits their ideology whenever possible. That being Linux.
Point four: Necessity (or the lack of it). If you want to work with servers, chances are youre gonna need to learn Linux. Alternatively, some people hold jobs that dont require the features available to them with Windows software - or, they need something Windows isn't quite as good at.
In any case, use what you please. Be cool about it. That goes for people of both camps.
>>54627210
gr8 b8 m8
>>54626764
>wade through shady download sites
Why aren't you just getting it from the developer website, retard?
If that is too hard for you just use ninite or chocolatey. What the hell do you do on Linux when something isn't available with the default repos?
Here's your fucking savior, Windows users. You made this guy a fucking billionaire.
>>54624759
> just type "sudo apt-get ______"
> what is this? this isn't the app store? I need an adult
>>54627069
>industry
like powering up that new CNC mill your employer just purchased (7 digit dollar price tag) and the first thing you see on screen is sys5 init messages. windows is used when it doesn't matter much if it crashes, the only thing it excels in is desktop market share.
>>54627210
>MW3
Go back to /v/. This is about software you actually need to work.
>Office
Install WINE and run the disc, like you would have to do with Windows, you fucking mongoloid.
>>54627213
I'd go with 3 and 4. I have Linux servers and have started using on the desktop as well. Everything integrates nicely because it's all Linux. I haven't had any major issues with programs either. Wine works pretty well in combination with POL.
>>54626977
Notepad++ isn't paid software, it's free as in free speech. You'd be better of using TextPad as your example of a paid text editor, although even that has a full-featured demo with no time limit.
>>54627218
>What the hell do you do on Linux when something isn't available with the default repos?
see >>54627199 and >>54627191
>>54627209
I can call you a corporate shill for using the brand of hardware you use, the brand of car you use, shit, I can call you a corporate shill for just about anything you use.
Not an argument.
>>54627213
> Linux is "cool." Its a relatively new
>relatively new
Are you retarded, it came before Windows 3.1...
>>54627210
Microsoft Word is not included in the repos because it's Microsoft Software and it only runs on Microsoft Windows. I'd advise you to look into running it on WINE.
Seeman winefor more information regarding WINE.
For info on MS-Word
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=10
For info on Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=24738&iTestingId=71087
I'd also like it if you'd not call me 'lincuck', as it's very rude to assume that i'm in a "cuckold" relationship. I'm an agender and i'm not interesting in any sexual relationships.
>>54627191
>Name one program you've had a problem finding. One. So i know you're speaking from experience and not FUD.
Bomi, Kodi, and Pale Moon were not in the default.
>>54626787
>Freeware is always going to pale in comparison to that which is paid, because that is how basic economics works.
By freeware you mean software created within trough the philosophy of free software or - free as in free beer ( gratis ) software, at least to an extent.
If you mean the later your comment is dumb.
If you meant the first I agree with you.
>>54627213
>lol i use linux to make me look cool and feel cool and feel smart xD
Literally a fedora.
>>54627265
>I can make these arguments about other things therefore your argument is invalid.
Good one.
>>54627291
not an argument
>>54627272
Its more widespread popularity is definitely relatively new. Besides, not a lot of people have heard about it until recently.
I recall a fairly recent news story where an (admittedly incredibly stupid) girl's laptop came installed with Ubuntu. She dropped out of college (queue stupidity) and the news reporters spoke of the system as if it was some sort of cryptic virus.
People dont know what Linux is until they've entered the tech circle, and even then they may not know exactly what it is for a while.
And that's not even counting the fact that its a new system to them.
So yes, it is "relatively new" to plenty of people.
>>54626977
MS-Office isn't necessarily better, it's the de-facto standard. The reason compatibility is an issue is that the open source community has to code around Microsoft without access to their code.
Photoshop works in Linux through wine
Notepad++ will run in Wine if you really want it to.
I don't know about f.lux, I haven't ever used it.
>>54627318
I think you're confused;
i'm implying Libreoffice is better than MS-Office, etc.
>>54627286
I wouldn't say that. It's more a challenge to those looking for one. It doesn't do as much for you. It can be quite rewarding when you learn how to do something you originally only clicked through in a wizard.
That being fedora is more a personal thing than a general issue with the system.
>>54627318
>>Notepad++ will run in Wine if you really want it to.
I actually do this.
also NP++ is free software. It's GPL. It's just written for a non-free platform.
>>54627298
Let me break this down for you because you obviously don't understand logic:
Hardware isn't an operating system. Cars aren't operating systems. The MPAA tried to make this argument in their "You wouldn't download a car" ad. I guess I've found their target audience now.
Let's take it to the next level even though that's enough on it's own: This thread isn't about cars nor hardware, and I didn't defend a maker of either one.
>>54624759
I use Linux almost purely for anonymityand security. I may sound paranoid but between just getting on 4chan and the red-flagish hentai anything with security like OS haX or Windows 10 and their borderline keylogger updates I'd rather use an OS that a basically build rather than anything else. Plus I can't get Aircrack-ng on anything but Linux
>>54627347
Oh shit:
https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus
I didn't realize the source was available.
OP here
This was a troll thread and you guys posted in it. :)
>>54627366
>Implying you are actually OP
Show us those (You)'s
>>54627397
>>54627074
this
>>54626836
Some of us just use linux to browse the internet, play some free games, and basic word processing. I use it in college.
>>This is why I genuinely believe that anyone using Linux as their primary desktop or for anything that isn't a server is just a fucking dumbass hipster moron.
You dont have to be an asshole. I find the idea of free stuff made by nice people cool, and, to me, it's fun to dick around on linux. I like customizing, and trying new things. It works for me.
>>54627787
>I find the idea of free stuff made by nice people cool
Quick protip for you, all that bullshit runs on Windows too
>>54627831
Examples?
>>54627862
gimp, firefox, I mean literally anything you can think of except things that directly rely on the Linux kernel itself like kvm or whatever
>>54625283
I get $8500 a month in my account for working with Linux :^)
>>54624759
People are out there that are working hard (for free) to give us an operating system that werks (for free).
Clearly Pajeet you are a fucking retard. Now shoo MicroTard. SHOO!.
>>54627888
So if all the things you use run on both, why are you still using Windows?
>>54625322
>On Windows you have to memorize a bunch of maze-like menus to get anything done. Have you ever tried enabling IIS? Who the fuck thought that was an acceptable process?
I spent like hours setting it up and never touched it again, just press enable when I want to transfer files over FTP. Even getting to the point of pressing the enable button is a chore in and of itself
>>54627918
he didnt say all the things he USES runs on both you fucking illiterate fuck, he said that all of the freeware that works on Linux works on Windows too. God you're fucking dumb.
>>54627947
>God you're fucking dumb.
umadbro
I don't see what he's arguing here. The point of Linux has never been exclusivity, yes there are many programs that run on both.
>>54627831
>>54627888
No, I meant like the free little linux games in the repositories. I like those. They're stupid and fun. And just as a whole it's cool that it's free.
If all that bullshit runs on windows, well why even switch to windows? I'd have to pay like.. $80 to play and use bullshit that i can use on linux.
>>54626787
Redhat and Apple aren't hobbyist
checkm8 atheist
>>54627831
So I should actually spend money for an operating system to run software that already runs on my existing free system?
This makes sense.
>>54624759
If you take the opportunity to learn a little you will discover that it is all about being open and scriptable. You can use programs in workflows the author never anticipated easily, you can repeat complicated actions you first used a year ago in a bunch of new inputs with just a history search and a few edits. You my friend are arguing from a place of ignorance
>>54627456
It's getting late. Don't you have some vidya sessions to get in before you go to bed?
>>54628040
I can play and shitpost at the same time, my rig has plenty of RAM
>>54626465
Linux is meant as a unix derivative, and thus graphical interfaces grew as wrappers around existing terminal applications. Thus, many things that would require navigating several menus are faster as rememberable terminal commands.
>>54627004
You CAN use them, because if "you" are not a middle class or better American or upper-middle European, many free options are what you can readily afford. Linux users like to mock Windows users because of the frustration that comes with trying to "maintain" an opaque system- whose poor design choices often make restarting or reinstalling the only halfway reliable troubleshooting methods.
Windows users, on the other hand, seem furious that Microsoft's repeated and well documented illegal practices have not made PC's the exclusive domain of Windows.
You keep going on and on about "industry standard paid product created and maintained by professionals". What industry? Video? I've got bad news for you, Linux is the preferred OS for these little known companies like Pixar and Dreamworks. Blender is a popular tool for any form of 3D design and animation. Office work? Libreoffice is backed by several NATIONS, and used throughout many governments. Cameras for live action? just about every single one runs Linux or BSD.
The only industries that lack a dominant or powerful *nix tool are CAD (though many of the physical tools run a free OS) , Flash work, and Gaming (If you don't count Playstations).
>>54628052
I too uses to vidya when I was in high school.
>>54626465
You can use it like any other GUI based OS
but the terminal has grep, and if it wasn't for that debugging other people's code would be a nightmare.
>>54628089
I'm at home, not in any sort of school.
>>54627456
This is a a prime example of someone who has no life, none at all.
It's a sad sight to see. I look at you with nothing but pity. You even go as far to list the internet arguments you have won. That in itself is an internet meme.
You look as though your the kind of person who sits on his computer all day chatting it up with people on services such as discord, skype, teamspeak, mumble, or CoD.
You look like the kind of person who wishes he could meet in real life freinds who shared the same interests as him.
You are a person with no life, and for that, i feel bad for you.
>>54628121
I really doubt you feel bad for me. You seem like an anime watcher judging by the stupid anime picture you posted, and all anime posters are pretty far along the autistic spectrum or are children. Since you're on 4chan I will make the assumption that you're an adult and therefore are autistic since you like anime. Everyone knows autists don't have true feelings, so you only think you feel bad for me.
By the way, just like I did to you in this post, you made a lot of baseless assumptions about me.
Signed,
NOT any of those things you listed
>>54628121
op btfo
>>54628180
No, and I got a feeling another Internet victory is incoming.
>>54628165
I do feel bad for you. Regardless if you choose to believe that is completly up to you. You poor tortured gaming soul
>Anime watchers automatically have autism.
Not true at all. If you had studied mental disorders or psychology at all you would know this. You see reality in a different way then most people, (You are mixing internet memes and the real world together) So i'm going to conclude that you're schizo.
>All anime posters are along the autistic spectrum
RMS watches anime. He confirmed this in an email. Look up RMS' certs. Also, mixing reality and internet memes again.
>Autists don't have feelings
Again, internet memes mixing with reality. Do research.
The above is a serious reply, This is with the assumption your post is not just trolling.
I highly advise you too see a psychiatrist.
>>54628185
Wow, you transcended from a common but clever troll to a total loser real quick.
I feel bad for giving you the time of day and writing >>54627213 . Guess that's what bleeding hearts and autists get, though.
Put down the Guy Fawkes mask, my man, and stop taking the internet so seriously
>>54628262
Are you apologizing for getting trolled?
>>54628261
Why would you feel bad for a guy that's made a nearly 150 post troll thread without even samefagging to keep it rolling?
>>54627966
>he pays for his software
lol fucking dumbass.
>>54628286
I feel bad for him _because_ he's made a 150 post troll thread
>>54628286
I... would guess so.
>>54628298
Wasn't the whole point of his post that he doesn't pay for it?
>>54628262
I appreciate the time and effort you put into your posts. Best poster itt, to the point where your audience doesn't deserve it. Nearly everyone else here is either butthurt or stupid, most often both.
Whether it was a troll thread or not, I'd say we had a pretty high information-to-shit ratio. Anyone reading this thread is definitely going to be exposed to some really solid viewpoints regarding free software and whatnot.
Linux users would prefer this to a normal chain lock.
They honestly believe that making something pointlessly difficult makes it inherently better.
>>54628352
>makes comparisons of physical goods to digital properties
Are you from the MPAA, or are you just bad with analogies?
>>54626465
There has never been and likely will never be a single Linux distro which was able to function beyond the most basic facebook machine tasks without at some point sending the user to the terminal.
>>54628352
Stallman was so butthurt he wouldn't even use passwords
>>54627278
>Bomi
You got me there. The developer will provide packages for 16.04 soon hopefully.
>Kodi
Use their repo. Is that really a problem
>Pale Moon
They use OBS. Even though OBS is better for RPM based systems, it's not troubling.
Although your right in the sense that not everything can be easily installed through launchpad ppas, most things are easy to find and install. I would not argue that it is more easy to do than with Windows exes, but I would say that each take a similar amount of effort in different ways.
>>54628405
Hello grandpa, please come back to 2016. We miss you.
>>54624759
4chan is retarded, autist and animugay.
>>54628352
>implying most linux users don't use linux because they find it easier
replace that puzzle with 50 buttons and you have windows :^)
>>54628405
Try Ubuntu, the terminal isn't necessary.
>>54626465
>Does Linux not have a graphical file manager like Windows Explorer?
Of course it has a fucking graphical file manager. 99% of the tasks that can be done using the GUI in Windows can be done using the GUI in Linux. There's a kernel of truth (no pun intended) to the OP's complaint, in that OCCASIONALLY you will have to run a few simple commands in order to do something that you could do through the GUI in Windows.
For all but the most casual users, however, this is far outweighed by the superiority of the terminal when it comes to performing any nontrivial task. Just realized that the filenames of all the files in a particular subdirectory are using the wrong convention? In Linux: thirty seconds of thought and a bash for loop, and you're done. In Windows (pre-PS, to be fair): have fun doing this manually; the time it takes will be proportional to the number of files to be renamed.
>>54626977
f.lux works fine in Linux.
>>54627229
Baited lol
>>54628405
I bet you think movie depictions of hacking are accurate
>>54625177
summer is eternal
it has been for years.
>>54626836
>>54626787
>not using Linux and running a VM for those few times you actually need wangblow only software
>not using OS X
