Well, this is the final nail in the coffin for Linux anti-windows faggots who don't know what they're talking about.
There you go retards - you now have Linux bash on Windows. You mad? You mad that Windows is now more powerful and easier for development than your meme desktop bullshit? Topkek. While you're over there breaking shit by downloading everything for a package yourself, I'll be over here working on shit.
>>54606999
>While you're over there breaking shit by downloading everything for a package yourself
You don't know what you're talking about. That doesn't happen.
>>54606999
Install KDE desktop and remove explorer and then comeback
>>54606999
>wow I have WINE installed XDDD.
>logged in as root
What a pleb lol
Lack of GNOME
Lack of Privacy
Lack of Freedoms
How am i supposed to even be productive?
>Meme Desktop
But you're using it right now. Works flawlessly on all my machines.
>>54607022
This
>i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about.
Ok Pajeet if you shill the fuck out of it then show us some nice script working on Win10.
>>54606999
What are you going to develop on windows? Bug fixes to programs that you bought with money?
>>54606999
>bash on Windows
You can't run it as a non-root user.
You can't run X11 apps.
You can't run "server" software.
>practicallyuseless.jpg
And I would use Windows 10 with Ubuntu bash, if only my keyboard and Wi-Fi drivers worked with Windows 10.
>>54607569
>2016
>still using the word driver
>>54606999
uh cygwin has been a thing for awhile.
I also bet cygwin is a more feature complete POSIX -> WIN32 shim as well since you can run X.org on it.
>>54607533
>What are you going to develop on windows?
Actual software that real people use. Linux is all meta shit that no end user will ever use.
>>54607534
this is a fucking joke right?
how the fuck is this better than fucking cygwin then?
why is everyone jerking off to this memey shitty faggy M$ tier garbage Linux (POSIX) -> WIN32 shim?
>>54607826
Evidently it's just moron Windows fanatics like OP who think they know what they're talking about.
>>54607822
>Actual software that real people use
Such as?
What is the last major project you've worked on?
>>54607903
Without linux, windows would have gone to shit as they would have nobody to compete against. They would literally taking a crap and selling it.
Bill Gates is actually doing this btw. He is working on making drinking water from sewage. As I said, microsoft are selling crap.
>>54607903
Games, Android Apps, Web browser addons, specialized calculators, various editors.
>>54607903
Not that guy, but I had to drop Linux because there is absolutely no art or video editing program worth using for Linux (also tablet drivers are horrible).
>>54607964
I just watched a Linux talk where the speaker said windows desktop exclusivity is dead because you can get *photoshop* on android. linux fags are delusional.
>>54607964
There probably are but they are too far up David Stahlmans ass, bathed in freedom lube that you cannot find them.
>>54607999
you can run photoshop in wine tho
>>54608048
with enough wine everybody is possible
>>54607964
>but I had to drop Linux because there is absolutely no art or video editing program worth using for Linux
GIMP and krita?
That's MORE than enough for probably 95% of users.
>>54607956
>Games
What Gayme have you worked on?
>Android Apps
This can be done on Gnu/Linux.
>Web browser addons
This can be done on Gnu/Linux.
>specialized calculators
This can be done on Gnu/Linux and made cross-platform as it doesn't use any specific system calls.
>various editors
Such as?
>>54607533
Holy shit are you retarded?
You do realize that Windows is the most widely used OS available, right? And as a result it has all the best software made by actual companies with real professional software developers, right?
Literally you don't gain anything from a developer standpoint by switching to Linux. All that happens is you lose all of the best dev tools in favor of shitty horrible freeware alternatives made by hobbyist morons which will ALWAYS pale in comparison to their proprietary cousins on Windows, because of how the markets work.
And then when it comes to actually doing things, Linux takes way too fucking long to set up the tools on. I spent 45 minutes installing Steam to talk to my friends because I apparently needed some 32 bit open gl libraries that weren't downloaded correctly, and then, I had to use shitty, horribly made IDEs for Python development.
Not to mention the fact that you lose access to languages and development opportunities at that, such as .NET, Visual Studio, etc.
Using Linux as your primary desktop OS is just fucking retarded. It's good for servers and laptops. That's it. Only hipster morons who want to talk down to other people use that shit as their primary OS.
Tell me ONE SINGLE THING that you gain by switching to Linux that isn't
>o u hvae more power :D
Like here's the thing: I don't doubt that when properly set up, Linux probably can make development just as easy and good if not better than it is on Windows, but the thing is I don't have TIME to sit here and fuck around endlessly with bullshit. I have work to do.
>>54608139
>This can be done on Gnu/Linux
>This can be done on Gnu/Linux
>This can be done on Gnu/Linux
>This can be done on Gnu/Linux
Yeah, and it can also be done on Windows, probably much more simple as well.
Using
"but u can do that on linux xD"
isn't a valid argument as to why you should use Linux over Windows
Look mate, I'm real proud of you. I'm real proud that you spent an hour installing Linux and then 5 days setting up your desktop environment, but in the real world, people don't have time for that shit. They want to actually get work done. That's why Linux is bad for development. That and for the reasons listed here
>>54608147
.
>>54606999
Where can I buy windows pro cheaper?
https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/
Is this ok? It's the cheapest I found ( haven't searched very much ) - it is OEM, there's a 50 eur version on G2A but not sure if it's OEM or something else as it's not mentioned.
inb4pirate-it
>>54606999
>Linux bash
argue what you will about a kernel being an operating system (it's not), but this is utterly and objectively wrong
it literally is GNU Bash you unhelpable dolt
>using nonfree software at all ever for any reason
why/how do people like op exist and think they have anything of value to say?
>>54608118
I don't doubt you can achieve good results with either GIMP or Krita, but I would never choose them over Photoshop or Sai.
They're mostly programs that "work," instead of programs that "work well," and I think it's kind of symptomatic of Linux mostly being an OS aimed at programmers and only programmers for a home desktop.
>>54608147
>I spent 45 minutes installing Steam
>>54608185
>lol le free ware xD
Why is freeware better than paid? Can you explain this to me? Or are you going to use your liberal socialist logic on your software now too?
>>54607320
>Lack of GNOME
Not having GNOME is a feature. Don't kid yourself.
>>54608175
>Yeah, and it can also be done on Windows, probably much more simple as well.
>Using
>"but u can do that on linux xD"
>isn't a valid argument as to why you should use Linux over Windows
It's not an argument for why you should use it over Gnu/Linux.
You(or someone else on your side) made the argument that people do not use Gnu/Linux because they work on """"real applications"""" creating """"reals software""""" that "People actually use".
I inquired on which specific software they worked on, and it was discovered that nearly none of it was Windows-exclusive
>I'm real proud that you spent an hour installing Linux and then 5 days setting up your desktop environment
Are you capable of using anything besides strawmen?
it took me 30 minutes to install and 2 minutes to download my scripts and dot files to setup my system as I like it.
>but in the real world, people don't have time for that shit. They want to actually get work done.
Again I just told you it can all be done.
Setting up your system for a few hours, ONCE and then never again does not impede your workflow you lazy retard.
How often do you install a new system? A couple of hours once for every new computer is not going to somehow destroy your productivity.
Please don't respond to these kinds of majorly mentally disabled children, ignore and move on, we have too many Indian shills getting attention as it is, don't give this Indian any attention
>>54608147
>I spent 45 minutes installing Steam to talk to my friends because I apparently needed some 32 bit open gl libraries that weren't downloaded correctly
This takes a very short time. Are you mentally retarded?
>to use shitty, horribly made IDEs for Python development.
CONFIRMED FOR NOT EVEN BEING A PROGRAMMER.
There's fucking PYCHARM just like on Windows (the best python IDE) you utter fucking lying faggot
>>54608206
Here's what went down:
>Set everything up
>apt-get install steam
>it installs perfectly fine, no warnings
>ok.jpg
>start it up, it screams at me for missing 32 bit libraries
>the only way to get the 32 bit libraries is to install the 32 bit version of my video card drivers. Can't install the 64 bit and 32 bit side by side. No no, Linux is very powerful, but it's not that powerful I guess.
>Do so
>Installing the drivers somehow knocks out my network manager
>Fix the network manager, Steam still won't work, crashes and gives me some unhelpful error message
>Ok
And that's not to mention how when I booted into fucking Linux the first time, it was all blurry as fuck, the mouse wasn't working at all, etc.
It's just such a hassle to set this shit up, and for what? Absolutely fucking nothing is gained from it at all. Like I said, you just lose shit in the process.
>>54608209
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Freeware
do you perhaps mean free software?
`better' is completely irrelevant
in a computationally centric world, when you don't have control over your computing, whoever does has control over you
freedom, personal sovereignty, and privacy are more important than capability, comfort, or convenience
>>54608209
He isn't talking about freeware dumbass it's free software, freeware is proprietary but distributed for free as in price, free software is free "as in freedom" and can also be free as in price, but can also be sold.
>>54608198
>They're mostly programs that "work," instead of programs that "work well,
You don't know what you're talking about.
GIMP is fully-featured and quite extensively outside of being a professional graphic designer or some shit.
Let's be real here a very very small portion of people on /g/ or any website need the specific features missing from GIMP and only available in Photoshop for their job.
>Krita
>Just work
Krita is amazing
>>54608209
>Why is freeware better than paid?
Because we believe software should be free(as in freedom) to modify, redistribute and sell as people wish once they purchase it.
>>54608147
>actually doing things
>installing Steam
Are you baiting my bait?
>>54608266
That is the stupidest fucking thing I have ever heard in my entire life and it literally proves everything that has been said about the "free software xD" movement completely and utterly right.
As I said, the quality of product will always be better if the product is for sale, as the people designing and marketing said product has to make it the best they can to compete with other software products like it. Money is used as a competition tool. They get money for making the best software in their given fields.
This is exactly why the majority of paid for software is better than their freeware alternatives. Freeware software is almost always made by hobbyist programmers, and is almost always full of security holes and bugs. This is because there is no competition in freeware.
You can swing your dick all over the place and wag it at me all you want how
>wel its not influecned by gred xD so its beter
but the fact and truth of what I'm saying remains.
>>54608251
This is a problem of your shitty distro of choice. It's not Linux' fault that Ubuntu or whatever shitty Debian derivate you're using can't into package management/resolving dependencies right.
>>54606999
>ubuntu
top kek
>>54608302
>As I said, the quality of product will always be better if the product is for sale
You do realize that many things major companies use every day are distributed as Free software, correct?
You do realize that the building blocks of the internet as we know it are free software, yes?
>>54608302
ok kid
>>54608175
>Yeah, and it can also be done on Windows, probably much more simple as well.
This is very subjective though.
>isn't a valid argument as to why you should use Linux over Windows
No one said it was, it's a matter of preferences.
>I'm real proud that you spent an hour installing Linux and then 5 days setting up your desktop environment
You're not convincing anyone dude
>but in the real world, people don't have time for that shit.
One of the reason why i use linux is because it requires less mantainance, at least in my own experience. When i put on the scale the pros and cons of windows and linux, linux wins for me, that's all.
>They want to actually get work done.
>That's why Linux is bad for development.
man, if you want to convince someone at least don't claim thing that are obviously not true as if it were how things are.
>>54608302
Literally you can sell free software, I bought a Debian CD, I bought a service from Ekiga for phone calls, software is software, there is tons of free software that can be better than paid (which free software can be paid too) it is code that gets executed, whether it's distributed free or not does not dictate quality
>>54608305
I was using Debian.
I also tried it on Arch, fucking Kali, I literally tried 3 distros for an entire day each and couldn't fucking get Steam to work at all on any of them.
On Windows, installing software is usually as easy and just running the installer. And then there you go you have it all done and ready to go.
On Linux though, it can't be simple. You have to fucking go and do x to do y, but to do y you need to do z first. It takes like 5 minutes to install something on Linux compared to taking like 1 on Windows. And that's just for a simple program. For larger things it takes alot of fucking retarded work.
It's especially fun when something breaks during the install and then you can't install packages at all.
>On Linux, you are free because you get to do everything that installers do on Windows! Don't you feel free yet?
>>54608302
10/10
the art of trolling lives!
>>54608302
>Freeware software is almost always made by hobbyist programmers, and is almost always full of security holes and bugs
Is that why the Linux kernel is infinitely more secure than the Windows NT kernel?
Is that why Windows is such a vulnerable piece of garbage and Gnu/Linux desktops have not had many major security issues?
>Paid software is better than free software
You are aware that Redhat for example is professional software developers, making a lot of money, with many years of experience who have worked on tons of free software?
You are aware that many Free software developers are actually professional software developers by trade and have worked in the field for many years and wish to work on their passion and design a project they like for the community? - It being free of cost is irrelevant.
And by the way, I would pay money for my Gnu/Linux distro and all the Programs I have installed if that were the case
>>54608355
Yeah, free as in free speech not as in free beer.
>>54608364
>I tried to install Steam on Kali
10/10 b8. You tried to install videogaymes on a bootable usb/CD pentesting distro.
all i want is to do is ssh without using putty or securecrt
thanks based microsoft
>>54608147
is this the newest pasta?
>>54608198
>Linux mostly being an OS aimed at programmers and only programmers for a home desktop.
Isn't you conclusion a bit slippery sloppy?
Even if photoshop and sai are better (assuming you're right) gimp and krita are not hard to use, i fail to see how you can jump to that conclusion.
>>54608401
b-but sir! i thought that paid for software was bad!!!?!?????
>>54607999
If anyone is wondering, the talk is Windows is awesome by Brian lunduke
>>54608445
>b-but sir! i thought that paid for software was bad!!!?!?????
No Pajeet, we are talking about Free as in Freedom, not free as in free beer.
The Gnu License actually allows you to modify existing software and sell it.
>>54608460
>The Gnu License actually allows you to modify existing software and sell it.
Dude, this thread is trolls trolling trolls, save your energy for when an actual Pajeet shows up.
OP never worked with an actual company that needs servers, databases, websites or any service besides user friendly management software
Kill yourself
>>54608364
you try Mint?
>>54608419
you can do a full install of kali. and you can install steam on it. itd probly be a pain in the ass because you'd have to install all of the dependencies and you might break ur install. but you can.
its stupid, but you can. thats why linux is best.
>>54608498
Of course you can, Kali is just Debian with a bunch of pre-installed tools for pentesting and a DE.
But it's beyond retarded
>>54606999
https://slashdot.org/story/16/05/16/1526227/microsoft-adding-more-ads-to-windows-10-start-menu
Enjoy your ads.
>>54608333
>building blocks of the internet
>cisco ios is open source
>>54608364
>I also tried it on Arch, fucking Kali, I literally tried 3 distros for an entire day each and couldn't fucking get Steam to work at all on any of them.
It's easy as fuck, at least accept it's your fault, linux doesn't comes installed with most computers and is not teach in schools to people when is young, it's pretty clear you was unwilling to learn and you tried to do everything "the windows way" even if the "linux way" can be more easy if you know how to do it.
>On Windows, installing software is usually as easy and just running the installer. And then there you go you have it all done and ready to go.
It's the same on linux, enabling the 32 bit architecture is literally one google search away in the first result.
>You have to fucking go and do x to do y, but to do y you need to do z first.
Package managers solves most of that things for you from trusted software sources, it's not like you're describing.
>It takes like 5 minutes to install something on Linux compared to taking like 1 on Windows.
Again, on linux you don't even need to open the browser to download and if a dependency was already installed you don't need to download it again. How windows can be faster than that?
>And that's just for a simple program. For larger things it takes alot of fucking retarded work.
In my own experience installing and uninstalling software on linux is more convenient, just try to uninstall multiple programs in windows or install a bunch of programs on windows that comes with different installers, with the package managers you only need to mark the packages you want to install or uninstall and do something else while you wait, everything is automatic in most cases.
>It's especially fun when something breaks during the install and then you can't install packages at all.
This only happens if your installation media was corrupted, most distros offers integrity checks dude.
windows cucks will defend this
>>54608854
They will and they don't care, every person defines differently the line of what's acceptable and in my opinion ads is the least of their worries. I'll just keep using the OS i feel comfy with.
>>54606999
Hey, fellow winfag here
shut the fuck up
nobody who likes Windows likes 10 you complete abortion
>>54606999
No, it's the other way around, dumb fuck. Windows is desperate. Hence the fucking GNU/Linux adoption. Just install GNU/Linux and call it a day, Pajeet. Windows will be a thing of the past unless you work for major Western entities, in which case migration will take a little longer.
>>54609110
There's still no feasible replacement for Active Directory, Exchange or Office. Microsoft isn't going anywhere unless someone steps up.
>>54609352
Libre / OO is fine so long as you don't need to interact with MS office. I still don't understand the appeal of Exchange and I've worked with it, OpenLDAP is getting there with AD (still a ways to go), but ultimately AD is only a necessity if you need policies on windows machines in the first place.
Too bad ping and ifconfig do not work. This needs a lot of work. Can you even compile a vanilla 4.6 kernel on this? Or rebuild gblic?
>>54607534
Yes you can moron.
>>54607320
>Lack of GNOME
even though gnome is my favorite DE, why the fuck would you need it to be productive?
That's just a retarded argument
Linux replacement huh?
Congratulations, you can run a useful OS in a toy one. That's neat and all, but why should I care when I can do everything in Linux without the Windows part?
>>54609765
Prove it. Run xterm.
Run named in it. httpd. ntpd.
Anything.
>>54609951
I am running as a non-root user.
X does not work.
http shit does not work. The faggot nigger curry monkey OP seems to think this is the bees knees. Stupid indian nigger faggot bitch beaner coon kike wop greaser bitch.
>>54609987
I guess they fixed the non-root thing since the original release. Point taken - still though, only very slightly less useless.
>>54607999
Yeah Photoshop Touch, its okay, I have it, the way you have to save twice and go through menus to export an image is a pita though.
It's not real Photoshop though.
>>54610084
Why not actually use Fedora Core or Debian on hardware. Or a VPS over SSH? Anything is better than this. Theonly use I have for this is using SSH over a VPN with the bash shell or programming.
>>54608118
GIMP is a piece of shit.
GIMP also runs on Windows, so there's no need to switch to Linux for GIMP when you can just run GIMP on Windows anyway.
Instead of GIMP Windows users also have Paint.NET which is far superior (and free).
None of these replace Photoshop at all, but Paint.NET is at least good.
>Unix shell+utils
>for development
>without acme to tie it all together
This meme never gets old
inb4 vim babies
You have a computer to run software (or play games) you want to use.
All an OS does is run the software you want.
Stop picking your OS first then looking for suitable "alternative" software.
Pick your first choice software you want to use, then pick the OS that will run that software.
It's not that fucking hard, jfc.
;^)
>>54610238
But if people did that even less people would be using Linux than now.
>>54610268
you mean nobody would use anything but DOS
>it runs wordperfect what are you even going on about fucking nerds
>>54610287
Well it beats developing in Linux, you've got Visual Basic 1.0 and QuickBasic 7.1 PDS, you can link in libs written in assembly and C/C++.
>>54610317
you funny guy
i call you autist last
>>54610252
But ping does not work in Windows 10 bash shell moron.
>>54610325
Hey man Future.Library was the shit, assembly written library giving you access to high res high bit depth display, high speed blitting etc.. not more shitty screen 13 games, you could write some high res shit for DOS.
>>54608147
I get battery life. For some reason windows just gets terrible battery life on my laptop but Ubuntu can easily get 8 hours.
>>54610252
>linux didn't have a GUI in 1993
>GUI is the only feature that matters
>win10 has a usable POSIX interface
>linux didn't come up with
>tcp/ip
>ipv6
>64-bit support
>journaled filesystems
>large file support
>PXE boot
>usable built-in firewall
>with NAT, PBR, QoS, bridging, etc. etc. etc.
>modular kernel
>PAE support
>headless support
>lights-out administration
>boot and run entirely from memory
>boot and run from read-only media
>Magic SysRq, remote diagnostics
>profiling, tracing, numa,
>think I've made the point
>all years and years and years before windows
>>54610382
Linux did have a GUI in 1993, and it was actually more usable than the de-facto official GUI it has now (gtk3/gnome)
And then the X desktop group bloated the everloving fuck out of X because they wanted spinning cubes, and linux users decided they didn't want a GUI anymore
>>54610252
>>54608642
Alright I've calmed down from my sperglord bullshit now and I'm willing to admit I probably was being straight up stupid with what I was doing on Debian. Near the end though, I became so fucking desperate to get shit to work I just started doing everything I could find. I tried enabling the 32 bit architecture too with the command but it still wouldn't work. Linux just isn't for me.
>>54610427
Linux isn't for people who just want to get work done, or spend their time using their software. It's for people who want to spend their time on the actual OS itself, rather than software.
>>54610400
Usually
>this is a sarcastic reference to a false assertion made by someone
...linux had all of the features listed, many years before Windows - and many more advanced features.
>>54610468
Well that fucking sucks.
I really like going into desktop threads and seeing all the cool looking Arch Linux things and stuff, and the awesome looking GUIs they have going and I feel jealous of it, but now I just envy them for having the strength and endurance to go through all the pain and misery involved in constructing such a robust looking setup.
>>54610492
>>54610468
Rice takes like five fucking minutes what the fuck are you guys doing
>terminal.sexy and wpgtk
>urxvt
>ranger
>htop
>cmus/moc
>w3m
>download some bitmap fonts with weeb names
>dwm and i3 are easy to rice
>animu pictures
>wow you're done
>>54610492
You can rice your Windows desktop if you want, there even used to be third party apps to take the UI modding to more extreme levels.
I don't even bother changing default colours, just set a bg pic, and get to doing stuff I need to do, whether it's Photoshop or otherwise.
>>54610468
5 Bing points have been deposited to your account Pajeet
>>54610468
I switched completely in 1993 and never went back. In 1993, it wasn't even a contest. Windows was complete shit compared to Linux. Anyone remember Trumpet WinSock? All that bullshit and you could still get a GD virus, even on Usenet.
I do use Windows for a few things - in a virtual - but that list is getting shorter. Office 365 runs in a browser, so that leaves Visio and Skype/Business (sometimes).
Use whatever you like to use. I like to use Linux.
>>54610552
>muh gaymes
>bing poinrs
>pajeet
Lincucks literally have no defence, no argument, just useless rhetoric.
>>54606999
>So, it's running in a VM?
>No!!! It's a clever system of intercepting calls, it's actually Ubuntu bash on Windows!
>So, I can run native Linux executables?
>Yes!
>And I can run Windows executables?
>Well, uh, no...
>So wait, all I can do is run Linux executables and modify files under a special directory?
>Yes, but it's better than a VM!
>But I can do the exact same thing under a VM with shared folders.
>But this is better!
>Uh. How?
>Because it's native Ubuntu bash on Windows!
>Uh... Okay.
Oh, and don't forget
>So you're saying I can't run the Windows git client I already have?
>No, but you can install a Ubuntu bash version!
>So you're saying I'll end up with two versions of every tool I use?
>Uh... Well.. We like to say that it gives you more OPTIONS!
They actually say this without laughing.
>>54610568
You can go home now Pajeet. The money is in your account.
>>54606999
Enjoy ur botnet faggot..
Man those feds and their porn collection servers....
>>54610492
You can totally rice with any distro. If you have an SSD you can install Ubuntu in a few minutes and boot it in a few seconds. Ubuntu's as painless as it gets. Anyone can install and use it.
Anyone.
>>54610608
>Anyone
I can't.
Check mate faggot.
>>54606999
What is even so special about it this time around? Microsoft has had POSIX/Unix compatibility layers for Windows since the NT4 days.
>>54610636
Nobody can be this dumb.
i love linux distros the olny restion i still use windows is for gameing playonlinux and wine suck allso my lan/wlan can need non free drivers to work so dose my vid card so its a pain in the ass to do with my curent setup o a btw i am pretty shure fragment hard drives 2 desk top envernments runing at one time and nsa back doors will all ways be a trun off for windows for me
>>54608498
Lmao check out that jam what a fag
>>54610733
Scrape up $35 and get one of the SoC boards, like the Pi. Run linux on it, rice it all up and shit, and if you don't like it you can STILL put win10 on it and take the NSA cornhole up the buttplug or whatever the kids are into nowadaysgoddammit.
>>54610736
yea i love men do u have a problem with that bigget
>>54608147
fuck, can someone be this retarded?
or wait, I think this is bait
guys, this is bait
>>54610798
go ahead kill me this world is a trap and i hate liveing in it cuz of most of humanty
>>54610543
Taste takes a long time to build
>>54610561
Damn son I was born in 93
>>54606999
>anti-windows faggots
Not everyone is this goddamned religious, get a freakin' life.
just because I run Linux doesn't mean I REEEEE about windows.
So you like Windows.
GOOD! WHO GIVES A SHIT? RUN WINDOWS THEN! GOOD FOR YOUANDSHITBLAH!!
All day, every day with the same holy wars.
>>54606999
ok
show me what you've done
>>54610908
Time flies. I'd love to go back - it'd be hard to give up all the awesome tech, though.
>floppy drives
>QIC "QUICK" tape drives
>dial-up SLIP/PPP Internet
>serial modems
>Tandy 1000 8086 costs $8000.00
>no @#$#$ hard disk
Today, running multiple operating systems is so trivial, the argument over which is better has become practically moot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37D2bRsthfI
>>54611396
that is actually fucking awesome, holy shit
>>54609838
>Wangblows can't even ping
holy shit my sides
>>54611396
I've been thinking of doing this, but then I thought
1. I would need good amounts of RAM. I would have to buy another 8gb stick most definitely
2. Takes an absurd amount of time to set up considering that I'm not exactly the kind of person to stick with one system for more than two months nowadays
3. Intel graphics. Yeah, if I have to fire up that VM thing whenever I want to watch a fucking movie, I might not love it so much. I'm not so sure though about performance, I haven't tried my HD 4600 much. From what I know it's pretty ok with something like Unity but somehow Gnome is kinda slow on it.
4. While my monitor supports multiple inputs (so I could plug my iGPU to 1 HDMI port and my GPU to 1 DP port) I don't even know how the whole thing would work with just one keyboard and one mouse.
5. Sure, with lots of RAM there'd be no issue, with 2 GPUs you have near native performance, but what about the CPU? I always wondered about this specifically. Some current games are a bit CPU heavy.
>>54608854
Ok, I'll bite.
Did you even read the article? They're adding more tiles that come default when you buy a new computer. This is usually stuff like flipboard. These apps are NOT installed. These tiles can be REMOVED with one click. This is literally no inconvenience to anyone at all.
>>54611396
Can this be done fine on Ubanto?
>54608175
>but in the real world I dont have work to do!!
>still doesn't specify any kind of project he has done
>keeps shitposting instead of 'working'
>>54608147
>IDE for python
>thinking his opinion is worth anything
Kill yourself, you are a waste of air
>>54612565
>thinks you have to be a notepad warrior to be good
lolno, my jobs server work is all python flask, very large and complex project, PyCharm is a fucking god
>>54608147
Docker. Docker that isn't shit house.
Get on my level.
>>54607586
wat?
driver is pretty much the only word used for computer software, apart from app
>>54612565
I see you've never worked on a real programming project before.
>>54608147
>it has all the best software made by actual companies with real professional software developers
Literally none of that matters unless it respects my freedoms.
>>54606999
i earn more as linux admin than 90% of the windows "admins". you mad?
why not just leave people to use what they want you fucking autistic losers
>>54606999
Bash is a selling point now? Seriously? It is garbage as a programming language, garbage as a shell and coreutils, frankly, are legacy garbage as well.
>>54606999
STOP FEEDING THE TROLL!!!!!!
All day
Every day
>>54608180
Just buy an 8.1 key and upgrade it.
>>54608266
>freedom, personal sovereignty, and privacy are more important than capability, comfort, or convenience
>freedom, personal sovereignty, and privacy are more important than capability, comfort, or convenience
>freedom, personal sovereignty, and privacy are more important than capability, comfort, or convenience
Switch to paper.
>>54607320
gnome is fuck ugly though
>>54613105
It's decent with some shell themes and icon packs.
>>54608175
>real world
You keep saying this like gnu/Linux is nothing but a fantasy. You know people do work/develop/whatever on Linux in the real world? Just because you lack the grey matter to doesn't mean it's fiction.
>bash on windows
It's fucking nothing, there's underlying issues with the os that prevent me from using it, as well as package management being a total shitshow.
>>54608198
I don't speak or understand Russian but that doesn't make it an ungodly language. Some people write, speak and talk beautifully in this language dispute my lack of understanding.
Just because you can't work a piece of software doesn't make out bad.
>>54608251
Your inability to understand multi arch and other basic computing concepts doesn't mean Linux is bad. You're just stupid.
>>54606999
>Windows admin gets a root Unix shell
>what could possibly go wrong?
>>54607822
Linux has no gaymes. lel xD
>>54606999
>Linux won.
>You mad, Linux faggots?
LOL
Enjoy coin miners running in your Linux subsystem, because they won't show in task manager. Also shellbombs and other pranks because you don't know what you're doing.
>mfw I can write viruses for Windows IN BASH!
Holy shit, Microcucks are begging for more shit in their miserable lives!
>>54613773
I know, right? XDD
>>54612027
1. RAM shouldn't be that much of a problem, obviously the VM will take up some RAM, but it's not like games are that dependent on it.
3. You can technically take away the second GPU from the VM after you're done using it. The only problem this would cause is that X can't into dynamic GPUs, so you will have to restart it. Oh, and you will also have to write/find a bash script, shouldn't be much of a problem.
4. From my experience with virtual machines, this setup should be perfectly workable with one monitor, one keyboard and one mouse. At the very worst with hacks, most likely with no problem at all.
5. CPU latencies should be low with any setup that is not completely retarded since most of CPU instructions will just be handled by the actual hardware, thanks to hardware virtualisation support by CPU manufacturers.
The only thing that could even be a problem is processor time, but Linux is really efficient with its CPU use anyway, and a system that is doing nothing intensive shouldn't take up that much. Unless you're planning to compile while playing in a VM, it shouldn't be a problem.
6. You need VT-d or AMD-Vi features for your CPU for this setup to work. I hope you have one of these, or you're shit out of luck.
Pure autism is going on in this thread. Holy shit you spergs take your Prozac already. But I give it to the Windows dude that he is right.
>>54606999
kys
sage
>>54606999
>I get this upset about the operating systems that other people use
Kill yourself, Pajeet. If being a wincuck drives people to make threads like this, that's just another reason to use Linux.
>>54609789
I couldn't work without i3, I just can't.
>>54613963
Tho, not having excel and Photoshop is hard. LibreOffice and Gimp sucks big time, but for me is worth.
>>54608175
not him, but it literally took me less time to install and set up Debian and Ubuntu than Windows 10
as for development I use emacs so it's even easier to set my environment up than on Windows
>>54614085
LieK literally d00d?
>>54614206
Why are you trying to make fun of me ? That's not so very fucking nice of you.
>>54606999
Nah.
Linux on top of bloatware is not my go to.
>>54606999
normies will not use bash because they are normies
linuxfags will not use W10 becuase autism
everything will remain as before
>>54614889
Except Windows gets even more bloated, vulnerable, unstable, hard to troubleshoot, demanding and generally unusable.
> ubuntu binaries
fucking useless for any development work ever
holy shit OP, read a fucking book
>>54606999
theyve just might have added ssh, grep and find to the windows sysutils.. other than that bash on windows is worthless.
>>54606999
lol
I already have access to bash in windows 8.1
Leave it up to microdick to devote their time to absolutely retarded shit
>>54614950
I know, this is the reason why I switched to linux last August.
