Technology giant Intel announced it will fire 12,000 skilled U.S.-based professionals — after already swelling its workforce with 14,523 requests in Washington D.C. since 2010 for visas to import foreign professionals through the controversial H-1B and Green Card programs.
Amid the layoffs, Intel is one of the nation’s largest users of the H-1B outsourcing program which allows companies such as Disney and Abbot Laboratories to replace white-collar American professionals with cheaper professionals from India, China, and other countries.
For its part, Intel claims that the H-1B visa program is a good thing for the country and, according to Intel spokesperson Lisa Malloy, “sustains our national competitiveness, drives economic growth, and creates jobs in the process.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/21/intel-lays-off-12k-looking-import-11600-foreign-workers-since-2010/
RIP America.
The bastards are selling it out from underneath us.
>>54583380
Poo Intel-loo
VOTE TRUMP
>>54583380
What a time to be alive. Fucking niggers, chinese, phlippino and indian braindead scum is taking over every single industry.
>tfw the US is being raped like a $2 whore by corporations
Feels good man. Enjoy your inferior everything for the sake of 'competitiveness' L E L
How does getting blacklisted work just for applying? That seems really spiteful to do, is this normal in the IT business?
>>54583380
This is how Trump will turn California into a red state this November.
>>54583380
>not unironically voting for Trump 2016
>>54583380
Don't worry, the free market will fix it.
>'muricans can't even compete against poo in loos
kek
>>54583551
it actually might, but it will be a very long and painful corrective process.
It's best to just nuke the whole thing before that though.
>>54583471
Underrated post.
>breitbart
>>54583553
Do you know how the H1B visa works? It's basically modern day slavery, workers are at the mercy of the company they work for and will threatened to cancel their visa if they piss them off.
>>54583553
>implying pajeets are getting hired because of their superior intelligence and not because of super-low wages compared to white people
>>54583644
If they weren't capable of performing their job they wouldn't get hired. If Americans were doing something irreplaceable they also wouldn't get fired. Americans are disposable and most of them are retarded. I don't for a second buy that the ones getting fired do a better job than their replacement to any significant degree.
>>54583380
This is capitalism, This is what you wanted and since most of you are for Trump you apparently want even more capitalism.
>>54583380
>and creates jobs in the process.
this is probably true it does give pajeet and raj jobs
>>54583773
Post you're yfw when it's 4 years from now and Trump hasn't built any wall nor made America great again and trumpettes realize the mistake they made.
>The company said the layoffs were part of a restructuring plan to help shift its focus from desktop PCs to mobile devices.
Goodbye Desktops.
>>54583824
Anyone that actually believes Trump will be able to do anything is deluded. At best he's going to do nothing and the worst he could do is horribly damage our relationships with Mexico and China and make imports ridiculously expensive while wasting our money on a wall that cartels will just dig under anyway.
>>54583835
Intel is making an early exist to avoid their upcoming humiliation by Zen.
>we were milking the market with incremental upgrades and exorbitant prices b-but we don't care anymore. It's a coincidence that we quit around the same time you released 8-16 cores cpus for half our asking price
>>54583824
Ayncraps love capitalism until it bites them in the ass then they are all like "but but it's not the real capitalism"
>>54583551
Not if the govt mandates this type of quota
>>54583773
>Trump
>capitalist
I never liked socialism until I discovered Trumps form of socialism.
>>54583773
Sander is opposed to H-1Bs in their current state, as is Trump. Hilary supports them. If you want to have a job you best hope your Trump alternative beats out Hilary.
>>54583380
Oy vey goy give to the poor indians a chance stop stealing their jobs and being racist in the process.
>>54583895
Corporations lobby for it, you deluded useful idiot.
>>54583896
Trump is neither a capitalist nor a socialist, you goddamn mouthbreather. He's a fascist.
>>54583919
Nice antisemitism. Were you trying to be funny?
>>54583852
>t. Pablo ramirez, mexican intellectual.
>>54583919
MODS, /pol/ IS LEAKING AGAIN
>>54583498
>niggers
Don't lump black people in there. They don't benefit from this fuckery at all.
>>54583924
Correction, not if the establishment mandates.
Also
>0.02$ deposited
Shouldn't you be in pol? Where people will bother giving you shit?
>>54583949
>no argument, just ad hominem
Didn't expect any different from a trumpshill.
>>54583976
>he doesn't agree with me, so he must be a paid shill
Just threw any few credibility you had left right into the trash.
>>54584008
She*
>>54583976
The establishment IS the corporations, you ignorant.
Found your own business, make use of the immigrant labor and pushed down wages. Alternatively swim against the tide and compete with the endless supply of h-1b applicants. Collective action or push back through trump presidency is a pipe dream.
>>54583918
Bern Bern will have my vote if hes in the general ballot.
>>54584016
TITS OR GTFO
>>54583947
t. Shlomo Goldstein-Silverberg
>>54584038
/b/ is that way >>>/b/
>>54584057
That meme stopped being funny a couple of years ago, you can stop now.
>>54584032
Same here m8.
But I'll probably have to vote for Trump.
>>54584075
>That meme stopped being funny a couple of years ago
It didn't stop being true.
>>54584032
why wait. you could live in a glorious socialist paradise in venezuela right now
>>54584109
You misspelled Denmark.
With Jews, you lose.
>>54584109
Bernie Sanders is not a socialist and you do not know what socialism actually is.
Socialism is the government owning means of production, not government health insurance or government funded education (which the United States already fucking has).
>>54584126
>>>/oven/
Daily reminder this thread is being derailed by shitposts made by corporate shills to prevent the people from organizing and striking back and defending the sovereignty of this country.
You are not free. You are a corporate slave. You are being watched. You are tricked into thinking voting matters, your future and the future of this country is 100% already decided. You have no choice. You are a cuck.
>>54584169
>replying to bait
>>54584169
He calls himself a socialist.
>>54583489
Trump actually supports H-1B visas and says American workers aren't skilled. You're the kind of fucking stupid, uneducated voter that thinks a wall will solve the immigration problem.
>>54584200
Thank you anon.
>>54584084
I thought amerisnacks were forced into registering to vote for either a republican or democrat.
>>54584191
Feeling the heat, Shlomo?
>>54584200
Pablos on full damage control today. You can't stop me from voting trump
>>54584240
You don't have to register for any of them and even if you're registered for one you don't have to vote for the candidate that is running on that party's platform.
>>54584200
>Trump actually supports H-1B visas and says American workers aren't skilled
Not true: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform
If you're going to bring up the Fox News debate where he said we need to keep high skilled workers he clarified afterwards that he does not consider H-1B "high skilled" and was referring to foreigners who come here, get educated at our top tier universities, and then are forced home because they can't find sponsorship.
Indians will fire all locals and import their entire village and make sub par shit.
Nothing new.
>>54584222
You're retarded.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sanders-democratic-socialism
If you're such a greta programmer, why would you be replaced by some code monkey from Bangladesh?
>hint: you're not really a rockstar
>>54584240
That's for closed primaries.
>>54584016
So we agree. What exactly are you so mad about?
>>54584333
>>54584292
Much appreciated anons.
>>54584324
>“The next time you hear me attacked as a socialist – like tomorrow – remember this: I don’t believe that government should take over the grocery store down the street, or control the means of production,” he said.
>>54583471
holy fuck
The answer is clear. We have to oust CEOs and institute worker co-ops.
>>54584333
Closed primaries are bullshit, they need to be opened federally. It basically gives the political parties the ability to decide who wins, just look at how poorly managed the republican and democratic primaries were/are. I'd much rather see the voting system changed to instant runoff voting so more than two candidates could run per election but even just changing that could make a huge difference.
>yfw you are making America great again
>>54583471
great post my friend
>>54584399
So the crazy old bird doesn't even know what he is? Is it dementia or mental retardation?
>>54583852
> le damage our relationships with other countries meme
do you realize that Obama has damaged the relationships between the US and just about every US ally aka 1st world country? while sucking up to like 10 countries that are hostile to the US?
>>54584451
He described himself as a democratic socialist, not a straight up socialist.
>>54583619
no, you clueless retard. if you want to change jobs, you simply tell your new company to transfer the visa sponsorship. it's a simple process.
I thought H1B visas were reserved in case the company couldn't find qualified workers in the US.
Why is it legal to fire your entire staff and replace it with poos in loos?
>>54584469
Go back to bed, Netanyahu. You won't be able to undo the Iran deal.
>>54584479
So he's not a marxist, thank god for the small things.
>>54584326
Too bad Indians are only good at blowing their own horn. Everything they say they can do, reduce it down to 5%, that's their actual capabilities.
>>54584493
>I thought H1B visas were reserved in case the company couldn't find qualified workers in the US.
>claim your US workers are unqualified
>collect H1B
>>54584354
If you cannot compete with pajeets who don't speak English and have no connections I have some very bad news, son.
>>54584493
it's not. read the fucking link. first of all, it's fucking impossible to hire 12000 h1b's in one year by a single company as the total quota for the visa is 65000 per year.
Can't wait for TTIP so can we do the same thing here in the EUSSR. We need all those skilled pajeets and chinks to "compete" with the GDP boogeyman. In fact, we should just go ahead and kill ourselves but not before we open up our countries to the might rajesh and zhang wei, they truly are god's chosen people and we are nothing before them.
>>54584532
Except most tech CEOs are Indians.
>>54584598
[Citation needed]
>mfw this thread
ITT: Protectionism supporters (i.e. commies) that don't understand how true capitalism works.
If you forbid Intel and other american companies from hiring cheaper labor you just can't compete long-term with Chinese technology companies.
Can't wait for Trump to win and see the empire fall. Nowadays you americans are just a bunch of spoiled crybabies.
>>54584563
>impossible to hire 12000 h1b's in one year by a single company
you don't hire them with h1b, you take them in while they're still students or on temp visa and apply for H1B after a year or two.
Even if the claims are stuck in processing, you can keep the workers as "pending" H1Bs without affecting your quota.
>>54584602
http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/17/investing/india-ceos-google-pichai/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
>>54583380
>entry level
>must have 5 years experience
>must not have 10 years experience
>$9.50
$20.00/hr would have been slightly more believable.
>>54583380
This is why I'm voting Trump. We need to save our fucking country!
>>54584645
>no actual statistics about how many Indian Tech CEOS there are
>just notes a few that exist
[Citation still needed]
>>54584666
Stay in denial.
>>54584598
You do realise they didn't get their position through capabilities right? They're only good at 3 things, sucking up, blowing hot air, and claiming to perform at 2000% of their actual capabilities.
>>54584623
>you just can't compete long-term with Chinese technology companies.
Absolutely wrong, innovation and performance don't necessitate spending less on your skilled labor, and spending more on cultivating talent would be beneficial in the long-term.
>>54584623
>implying capitalism is good
>>54584493
because the system is abusable and you have people like Zuckerkike pumping tons of money to congressmen so things don't change.
It doesn't help that the employees who are replaced can't speak out against it because then they'd just get blacklisted from the entire tech industry.
>>54584679
>>/mumbai/
>>54584664
You my good sir are an idiot. The fact that people can come from other places of the world, to take your job like it's nothing, means you are definately doing something wrong.
>>54584701
>you have people like Zuckerkike pumping tons of money to congressmen
Reminder that the only candidate who spoke against Citizens United was pic related.
>>54583852
>Trump will be able to do anything is deluded
People said he same about Obummer but he's been playing dictator churning out executive orders left and right
>>54584623
You are implying that "true capitalism" is a good thing. True capitalism is what led the chinese and indians to be where they are today because we outsourced all our industry and know-how to their shithole countries and in the process destroyed our middle class so much so that now those countries have a strong middle class and are looking down on us with their money, especially the chinese.
A culture that thinks they've been stolen of their greatness and first place in the world by western countries, so it's okay to steal everything from them. A culture so great that they couldn't come up with anything better than two wooden sticks for food ustensils.
Fuck all of you.
>>54584679
>Still no statistics to back up the shit that he's spewing
Superpower by 2020, right Pajeet?
>>54584735
The only benefit they bring to the table is because they're cheaper since they can live in a fucking public toilet which is still cleaner than their shit hole country and $1 can feed an entire family back home for a month.
>>54584795
INCREASINGLY NERVOUS
>>54584844
Why are shit wearing human clothes? Is this some kind of new meme?
>>54584751
uh excuse me, but the Chinese invented gunpowder, bowls, and vaping.
>>54583380
Murricans and their certifications
$9.50 /hour
>slave_ship.png
>>54583471
wew in the loo
>>54583380
>Entry level
>4 - 5 years of experience
>>54585304
>b-but our PPP!
>w-we are first world, I-I swear!
America, not even once!
>>54584623
>if you don't screw over civilized workers and hire desperate poor fucks, you can't compete with a nation of slaves
the solution is simple
change policy until we no longer rely on china, bolstering jobs in allied countries and our own and then make a unilateral effort to sanction the fuck out of them until they can't afford to build more vacant skyscrapers in their slum cities
>>54585492
I am CS student in the 2nd year and I got a 14$ helpdesk agent job at AT&T without having any certificates.
>>54583589
Your sjw is showing.
>>54585563
Even /pol/ calls breitbart kikebart
>>54585563
Funny how you say that as if it was a bad thing...
>>54585764
Because they think they know everything and want to impose their beliefs on everyone.
>>54585787
Sounds just like conservatives
>>54585764
There was a time when the most intelligent members of western society were staunch racists.
We did not know more or less about potential or imagined racial differences then than we do now. Only the culture changed. For every advance showing human similarity, there has been a less published result showing a significant difference of averages regardless of socio-economic status. These are embraced when they "prove" that simply being jewish or asian is enough for people to assume that you are slightly more intelligent or more or less likely to inherit a certain genetic disorder, and thrown into the trash when they have anything to do with black people or white people. Human knowledge has not driven us away or towards racism, human rhetoric has - especially the rhetoric preached on universities that already have a good stock of young, capable, and malleable minds with little knowledge to form arguments with (they attend university for a reason).
The cultural pendulum swings. Right now, it's heading for a society of pseudo-enlightened bigots again, this time born of the liberals, and focused on the societal advantages and disadvantages of race and sex instead of the biological (and unfairly applied, still, based on race and sex instead of actual societal status)
you can't expect anything else from a species that comprehends the world in terms of categories and can't manage to consider individuals of its own kind after hitting a limit of 200-some persons
>>54585826
Sounds like both extremes, I suppose. But at least conservatives want to let the states decide certain things while liberals want the federal government to decide everything.
>>54583471
Way too underrated post.
>"unions are bad", they said
>"employers will treat us right", they said
>yfw /g/ is a cucked board
Are you transitioning yet anon?
>>54585764
liberal != sjw
>>54585910
Unions are in fact bad they meant something when before the jobs overseas bill was passed but not anymore.
They take a huge chunk of your paycheck in which you are still taxed the full amount of what you got. So you're getting ass fucked either way with or without a union
>>54583380
Literally corporate bullshit-ism so they can cut costs. There is literally no reason for this beyond cutting costs even though they have no problem paying their bills and making billions regardless
>>54585878
Conservatives want states rights because most elected state governments are conservative, owing to the local populations and the conservative bias of businesses that are interested in state matters like land management
Liberals want federal power because the federal government is mostly liberal, owing to the massive amount of spin corporations and media giants put on presidental elections (remember who appoints judges in the SCOTUS? would moneycorp want a pro-IP, 1000000 year copyright, anti-privacy, hate-speech-law globalist or a neckbeard to appoint those judges?)
We have to force the pajeets into unions
If POOs weren't so fucking hideous and have a disgusting accent I would probably tolerate them
>>54585964
I hope you mean Conservatives among the public, not the GOP
>>54585924
>join union
>union endorses hillary
>hillary increases h1b quotas
Thanks union.
>>54585826
>whatboutism
>conservatives do it, therefore its okay for sjws to do it
fucking SJWS
>>54585953
>union takes $40 a paycheck
>get flat 4% raise every year through arbitration
>can't get fired on a whim and replaced by poojeets
????
>>54584479
>implying there's a difference
>>54586081
>union takes 40 dollars a paycheck
what? what union ever does this? theres a union due of a few hundred dollars a year and thats it
>>54586081
>can't be employed without being in the union
wuh oh
>>54586081
you can't get fired but you can get laid off easily
>>54583380
Will never buy Intel products again.
>>54586035
Most unions so far have endorsed Bernie Sanders, who opposes the H1B visa program.
http://www.economicpopulist.org/content/bernie-sanders-vs-hillary-clinton-h-1b-and-guestworker-visas-5940
>Among the two announced candidates on the Democratic side, Senator Bernie Sanders is a critic of the H-1B visa program. If he raises the temporary visa issue, it may be to challenge former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's support for raising the visa cap.
>Sanders has been outspoken about his stance on H-1B visas, which are commonly used in the high-tech sector. H-1B visas are supposedly for temporary guestworkers, not for permanent immigrants. Sanders argues that the program allows corporations to give American jobs to foreign workers.
>>54586093
It's like 1.5% of my paycheck or some shit, idk if they actually do it by percentage but 36.07 a paycheck.
>>54586105
Why would I want to be employed outside of the union anyway? It's government work.
>>54584256
>not zyklon B
>>54586165
>It's like 1.5% of my paycheck or some shit, idk if they actually do it by percentage but 36.07 a paycheck.
so you make 2400 dollars weekly or biweekly?
>>54586181
Yeah, around there. Twice a month.
>>54583679
Your a delusional fuck aren't you.
>>54583380
Another reason to buy AMD.
>>54583773
No this is GLOBALISM and nobody fucking wanted it
>company makes $50 billion a year
>still replace American workers with an army of Pajeets to save pennies from your bottom line
I hope Trump gets elected just so he can force intel to pay hundreds of billions in fines. Goddamn Jews.
>>54583978
Your original post isn't an argument either.
Merely a projection.
>>54586234
>implying you could stop globalism with the advent of worldwide communication and cheap, convenient transportation
>>54586258
Defeatist shill detected.
>>54583679
Yes, companies care about quality, quality, and quality. Cost never takes precedence. Nobody has ever hired a shitty OO fanboy over an experienced wizard for a dev position just so they could pay him a few thousand less. Overqualification doesn't exist.
>>54583380
>sustains our national competitiveness
YOU HAVE A MONOPOLY DIPSHITS
>>54586276
Good luck with your isolationist views in this day and age.
>Intel has insisted that it cannot find enough skilled American workers to fill its needs.
yeah, companies lie. we're here, just not willing to work for $10 an hour.
>>54584479
Name me one successful democratic socialist country.
>>54586300
Divide and conquer works for you guys does it?
>>54586307
then you don't fill intel's needs.
>>54583380
>[..] and creates jobs in the process.
>says Intel as they fire 12000 Americans
Come on.
>>54586339
Why hire an american thats gonna want good pay, health benefits and stuff when you can pay a pajeet 10 dollars a day, no benefits and they'll work every day without complaining. If the pajeet gets sick you fire him and get another pajeet that'll work for even less again!
>>54584903
>chinese invent gunpowder.
>proceed to equip infantry with crossbows and halberds up into the 19th century.
>"lol gweilo ways are firehaired barbarians, let's just jerk off to confucious and not care about the outside world."
>"wtf gweilo, stop it with all this opium, don't you know your place?"
>proceeds to get rekt
>>54586367
If a robot could do the job, would you be just as outraged that they bought robots -- or is it just inherent racism?
>>54583380
>trump and his family profited off outsourcing, producing shit in foreign countries like Mexico and China, and relied on h1b visas for decades
>he a businessman he dindunuffin, he was just trying to acquire dem profits for his business partners because da system forced him to do it!
>Intel lays off people in order to reduce its costs
>fucking backstabbing jews! they are the bane of american prosperity, why can't they be more like muh donny?
trumpfags are literally retarded
>>54586401
Its different when you're being replaced by automation.
Its horrid that Intel complains that people can't fill their program positions because they're paying fucking shit for a job that should be making double. They'll then lay off 12000 americans to hire 14000 pajeets because pajeets are cheaper thats literally the only reason. They aren't automating their process to do things quicker or better they're only doing to only save money. They're going to ruin thousands of people's lives because Intel can abuse the H1B program
>>54586401
We're outraged by your treatment of people regardless of race you shit stain.
>>54583380
It is time for me to move to america,I will work for intel gladly, here i get paid 1$/hour
>>54586445
>>54586456
I never understand the uproar with H1Bs... You realize that if people are willing to work for less than you, its because you are a spoiled fuck, right? If you want to be paid more than pajeet, then be better than him. Otherwise, stop whining that brown people are getting into your secret tech club. Being a run-of-the-mill programmer doesn't make you a genius or entitle you to be extremely wealthy. Suck it up, faggots.
>>54586367
Its a sad state of affairs when office jobs which require a degree are being reduced to factory assembly line labor.
You want benefits? You're fired. We'll replace you in a day.
You want vacation? You're fired. We'll replace you in a day
You want health coverage for your family? You're fired. We'll replace you in a day
You want sane work conditions? You're fired. We'll replace you in a day
You want to work only 40 hours per week? You're fired. We'll replace you in a day
You want to make more than $35k per year? You're fired. We'll replace you in a day
Now intel will have over 10,000 Indians working for $30,000 a year, with little to no benefits, no vacation, and they'll be expected to pull 60+ hours every week. If they complain they'll be replaced by another Indian willing to work for $28,000 a year.
You might as well go back to school and learn a trade. This is the death of the US tech sector.
>>54586497
You racist fuck
You people disgust me.
You privileged little shit. You don't give one shit about pajeet or Anyone else except yourself. Pajeet is just a tool for you you filthy racist fuck.
>>54586497
>You are spoiled as fuck
No, because the cost of living in america is far higher and the development indexes are far higher. In comparison to America, india is a fucking third world country with no standards to living what so ever.
You magically think that an american can compete with cheap foreign labor because they fucking can't. If a pajeet gets sick, Intel fires him and gets another because its cheap worthless labor because there are no standards in india, china, taiwan or any place.
H1B takes jobs away from americans because companies are greedy and can pay a foreign worker in china a fraction of the cost to do the same job. That person in china is expendable as fuck and their work is highly undervalued.
>Just be better!
Intel doesn't care if you're better than a pajeet, they'd rather pay a pajeet far less than you and get similar results because they don't care you can do a job better when all they want is some dumb minimum
>>54586369
Weren't Chinese crossbows so inferior they could barely penetrate hard leather?
>>54583471
second-post best post
>>54586497
>You're spoiled if you want retirement and health care benefits
>>54586294
topkek this
>>54586544
>That person in china is expendable as fuck and their work is highly undervalued.
perhaps instead
your work is highly ***overvalued***
that is what value means after all
>>54584623
>H1b
>cheaper labor
lel no
>>54586592
>Your work is overvalued
No its well within fair market value for america because america has a higher standard of living
Companies from america hire people in china because they're fucking cheap as shit and the company doesn't have to pay benefits.
Apple talks about "bringing the jobs back to america"? they fucking won't and if they do its miniscule in comparison to how much they can save paying foxconn children.
![Tom-Brady-AP694032315324[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2dogjcw.jpg "Tom-Brady-AP694032315324[1].jpg")
>>54586561
>>54586544
>>54586542
Let me preface this by saying I'm a white American male. Why is it that white men who fail at their careers always scapegoat minorities?
Why is it that I work for above 100k a year in an entry-level position for a tech company, surrounded by mostly white men and a few east asian men, when everyone in this thread seems to think the industry is being overrun by destitute indians?
Ohhh I remember why... It's because I work for a good company as a person trusted with creative judgement and autonomy, while you work for some shitty company being a code monkey. Why don't you just get smarter and interview for a good job?
>>54584836
>cheaper
http://www.bridge.us/blog/minimum-salary-requirements-h-1b-visa/
>>54586511
well 28k/year is more than people in my country dream of
we are happy with 400$/month
>>54586544
You somehow think that foreign=worse
I beg to differ,especially because we have free university so everyone have education and honestly It ends up to be matter of your motivation to put enought time to said obiective and become good
and finally $$$ do motivate us a lot
so believe me I will work hard and make mymerica great again
I hope that you have many white girls for my dark dick
>>54586544
do you even know what h1b is?
>pay a foreign worker in china
that's not h1b, retard.
>>54583380
Am I on /pol/
>>54586635
cheaper to pay someone minimum wage to program than it is to pay someone tens of thousands more that isn't H1B
>>54586665
Doesn't have to be an H1B, Look at everything made at foxconn
American workers can't compete with workers in china. Intel will never bring those jobs to america
>>54583380
>g-guys, there's a shortage of IT professionals
>get a CS degree guys, it's easy money...
Hey berniggers, how's that minimum wage treating you? Maybe some day the democrats will apply it to imported labor and you'll be able to get a minimum wage job again.
Do I need to start hoarding G3258s and haswell mobos?
>>54586715
Bernie had to lay off a huge load of his staff because he couldn't afford to pay them ironically
>>54586711
>minimum wage
are you fucking dense?
>you must pay them at least the actual or prevailing wage for your occupation
>The actual wage for the position is the wage that you as the employer pays other employees with similar experiences and qualifications.
>>54586768
>>you must pay them at least the actual or prevailing wage for your occupation
what does this ACTUALLY mean when someone from an H1B can swoop in and say "WELL I'LL WORK THE SAME JOB FOR A PENNY LESS!" then youll get out bid and thats how jobs get ultra saturated and labor supply goes through the roof lowering the wage.
That's it, I'm moving to Canada then applying for jobs in the US.
>>54584149
Oh, you mean the country that is the size of one US state and is 90+% white
obviously socialism works just fine guys
>>54584302
Trump changed his fucking position on TV. He has no clue what's on his website.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3zT6F3_1ns
>>54584485
You're wrong. Your new company most likely won't transfer the visa sponsorship. You're at their mercy.
>>54583380
One day you're going to look back and tell yourselves it didn't have to be like this. You could have gone down a different path.
You chose corporatism, now you will have to enjoy corporatism.
>>54586754
Too bad desu, they probably would have #DoneItForFree
>>54586796
it ACTUALLY means that it's against the law. it's illegal.
>>54586810
work for better companies.
>>54586796
Hi I m willing to work for half the wage send me green card pls it is hell here
I will also suck dicks 4free , no homo tho
>>54586497
>you're spoiled as fuck for wanting a decent life
Sure, let's race back to the bottom, the 1900's-20's were a great time for workers in America.
>>54583380
This is a joke job, right?
>>54583380
That picture can't be real can it??
And holy shit. CS REALLY IS A MEME. FUCKING DEAD END
TIME TO JUMP SHIP
>>54583380
Hi. Is this the desktop thread?
>>54586829
>work for better companies
You do also realize H1Bs have a time limit, don't you?
>>54586832
not even joking, i have offered to work for free and to reimburse any expense regarding sponsorship and not once received a reply.
haha jokes on them i'm willing to work for less!
>>54586829
>its against the law to hire someone who outbids another person for less money for the same job
its actually not. It'd be up to the person agreeing to take the job. Since the H1B is being constantly abused to hire lower wage workers what the actual law says doesn't mean anything because the workers who are in H1B are more than happy and never complain about any unlawful practice thats not worth fighting over.
>>54583619
Work is modern day slavery. Go there, stay 9 hours under the constant supervision of your boss, be threatened with getting fired every time you piss him off or suggest something correct/good. After that you get home and you're too tired to work on anything you want for yourself. No way out, your best bet is to collect enough money to move to somewhere cheaper and live out for a few years, then rinse and repeat. No rest till you're dead, and by the time you start to get your pension you'll have just a few years of your short miserable life left. No life extension drugs/surgery since it's too expensive and will never happen (besides, you're old, you don't have cash to be milked, so companies would rather see you dead since you're not buying). Constant pain throughout the last years as your teeth are mostly all useless. Computers never really get more powerful and the last bastion of free speech, the internet, gets taken over by corporations. Copyright law gives timeless power for the holders. Most of the companies avoid hiring at all and instead give competitions to people who wasted money on degrees. Winner gets a small prize, company gets a complete product to sell as they wish.
There is no escape, save this post and see it happen by the time you're just above middle-aged.
>>54586890
Feels good to be self-employed.
>>54583965
He probably means African immigrants which is a thing too
At least in my city
>>54586868
six years. you can get 3 green cards in that time if you aren't chinese or indian.
>>54586884
>its actually not
it really is. go report them.
Its over man. Indians really are the master race
>>54586920
>>its actually not
>it really is. go report them.
No one is going to "report them" because its simply not worth it.
Also a huge place where Intel will save is because they don't have to pay benefits, they won't have to pay things like retirement or health, dental, vision or any of that. This completely circumvents anything normal workers actually want
>>54586884
>>its against the law to hire someone who outbids another person for less money for the same job
nigga what
this is how people are selected for jobs: hire the best value
if skill is equal, best value is cheaper offer.
if skill is not equal, "the same job" doesn't apply
>>54584740
This.
Bernie is our only hope.
>>54586920
>you can get 3 green cards in that time
I've been playing the DV lottery for 5 years and nada. Your chances of winning are shit as tons of retards are applying online.
>>54586968
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Condition_Application#.231:_Wages_.28the_prevailing_wage_requirement.29
>>54586968
>if skill is not equal, "the same job" doesn't apply
I need someone to be a programmer
>someone applies
>they want 15 an hour
>someone else comes in and wants only 13
they're going to take the 13 an hour guy even if he has less experience
how does it feel knowing those so-called pajeets of yours are able to replace you so easily because they
>are better programmers
>willing to work for less
>don't act like a smug assholes towards their coworkers
>literally have better hygiene than your pimply asses
>>54584200
He is actually against the misuse of it.
>>54586985
not via the dv lottery.
https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/green-card-through-job/green-card-through-job-offer
and remember that h1b is a dual-intent visa.
>>54587012
>they're better programmers
probably not
>willing to work for less
because they live in shit holes with no standards, they don't care if their house doesn't have plumbing or electricity.
>don't act like smug assholes
nice shitpost
>hygeine
>pajeet
pick one
>all these buttmangled NEET trump supporter tears
Yes, anons, if Indians didn't took yer jobs you'd be working a 100k position at intel by now
feels good to be non-white master race
>>54586701
4chan made a fateful decision when they decided to neither delete /pol/ nor at least ban hate speech on blue boards.
The unavoidable result that we see now is that /pol/ has irreversibly leaked site-wide.
4chan used to be more progressive, despite the satirical racism and anti-semitism. Now, the racism is real, the anti-semitism is real, and /g/ actually believes software freedom is compatible with xenophobia and capitalism.
I cringe when I realize that a sizeable portion of this board unironically supports Donald Drumpf.
Thus passes the glory of half-chan...
>>54587034
If they're no better than you than why are they replacing you?
>>54587048
Shut the fuck up, tumblr faggot.
>>54587054
because they'll work for cheaper and intel doesn't have to pay them benefits
intel cares more about saving money than getting "high quality programmers"
Oh, this is the desktop thread? Okay then.
>>54587054
Xenophobia is the luddism of today.
no responses to >>54586989
>>54587037
it's fun when they get rekt, isn't it?
>>54587082
Fuck off
>>54587077
Nice meme.
>>54587082
>not running Lumina
It's like you WANT to suffer.
>>54587109
You fuck off.
>>54587048
i cant tell if this is serious or not.
So, this thread is in fact the desktop thread?
>>54587147
I can't tell if all the edgy drumpfshills and /pol/ naziposters are serious or not.
>>54587081
>cheaper
wrong
>doesn't have to pay them benefits
wrong again, faggot.
see
>>54586989
>>54587163
ahh so you are retarded.
good to know.
>>54587165
>hire a temp worker
>lay them off before they collect benefits
rinse lather and repeat
You realize more shady shit happens regardless of the law right?
>>54587048
To be honest, they've leaked everywhere else too.
combover mctinypenis appealed to racism and xenophobia succeeded at disguising it as "politically incorrectness." He made people proud to be horrible and even though he's not going to win the damage is done because some narcisist cared more about winning than than the harm he was causing.
I mean that's the thing, isn't it? He doesn't believe most of his hate speech, he just knows it will get him voters and as long as his name is synonymous with success he can't give a rat's ass if he causes a genocide. This is a guy who changed his name to Trump to sound more like Trump Card and then stuck his new name on a bunch of half-assed products that were marketed as luxury goods, like trump steaks or trump magazine
>>54587081
yeah, you just keep telling yourself that manbaby
>>54587161
Yup. Post yours.
>>54587186
>nuuuuuu no one wants to work for no benefits and less pay!
>>54587165
>the law says it so that's how it works in real life!
looooooooooool
>>54585764
>SJW
>intelligent
>/pol/tards actually think trump will protect them from wallstreet corruption
>a CEO fighting wallstreet for the little guy
kek
>>54587197
Here's mine.
>>54587243
Why don't conservatives give a single shit about citizens united? And they claim to be redpilled!
>paying $100k/year for 20 IC designers to place pre-existing Verilog libraries that have been in use for a decade
>when you can hire 50 Pajeets to do it in half the time and half the price, and retain one designer to clean up their shit afterwards
Digital design is literally Pajeet-tier work nowadays. If you aren't focusing on mixed-signal design, you're literally asking to be unemployed.
>>54587177
This is the not so big secret in silicon valley. Has been for over a decade. Tech giants heavily rely on the work of "interns" who they frequently change out. Tons of degree holders end up working insane hours at these companies, then get told not to come back next week. They do this with citizens and visa holders alike. Its been true for a while now that 50% of all new hires in Silicon Valley are Indian, but an even higher percentage of interns are foreign.
>>54587186
Fuck off tumblr faggot.
/pol/ isn't some new boogeyman, and nothing has leaked anywhere. All that has changed is that little tumblr newfaggots like you showed up and started whining about opinions. 4chan has had boards dedicated to divisive political discussion since /n/ years and years ago. The people and opinions you get all butthurt about have always been there. Those people and opinions have always been on every single board.
You are the problem.
They are not.
>>54587278
Found the wealthy christian white male!
>>54587103
It certainly does, my friend, it certainly does.
I'm gonna make a big tequila party when the elections are over and I can freely smear the shitposts of trumpfags in their face like I did when romney was running for president.
Trump can't win shit when he polls so lowly among women, asians, blacks, hispanics, muslims, and basically anyone who isn't either a senile racist old fuck, or a disenfranchised NEET white male waging a political war for unskilled jobs.
>>54583924
>Corporations lobby for it
And daddy government is more than happy to comply. Corporations are by definition a government backed legal entity designed to avert responsibility. Somehow this is capitalism in your mind?
>>54587310
who do you support.
also you shouldnt take what the media says so seriously.
its really going all out and showing its bias this election.
