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Hello /g/,
Linus here.

We at the Linux Foundation heard you and we agree that it is time to change the Linux logo (Tux).

Please help us design a new one. The best submission from this thread (and if necessary, subsequent ones) will be chosen as the new Linux logo.

Thank you for your help and continued support.

Best regards,
Linus Torvalds
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>>54476373
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>>54476419
its shit
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>>54476419
Not sure I like the ice-cream without the ice-cream cone.

What flavor is it?
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w10 styled metro tux
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>>54476447
ElementaryOS
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>>54476373
interjection.avi
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Don't do it, Linux! My city's zoo had the penguin that inspired it!
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>>54476572
Canberra is my favorite place in Australia, nice cool nights
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>>54476619
Yeah, I quite like the cold since moving here, pity it doesn't really snow though, I think it's got something to do with the elevation, because we get below zero. It snows like one day a year for about 45 minutes and that's it.
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>>54476373
My fee is $1.2 million
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>>54476705
Its shit
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>>54476723
It's contemporary, you just don't get it.
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>>54476705
It is GNU + Linux, not the other way around.
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>>54476736
Not marketable, more people have heard of Linux than GNU.
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>>54476736
Linux runs first.
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>>54476733
Why is N bigger than any other two letter combined? What makes it so important? Why dont X and N have the same angles?
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>>54476774
N is bigger because Niggers have the biggest dicks.
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>>54476774
To signify that the "N" is emphasised when saying "Linux". The X has the angles that matches Mac OS X's 'X' to push the idea that they're both Unix operating systems, and that by running Linux you're sort of running a Hackintosh. Again marketing.
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>>54476419
IN LOO, Pajeet
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>>54476822
>I have no clue what design is
please stop posting
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>>54476856
What? It makes sense.
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>>54476873
Mildly dislike someone? Make this the message in their bootloader!
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>>54476822
Holy fuck, even by /gd/ standards you're a massive faggot...
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>>54476978
>>54476856
I need more in the way of constructive criticism, perhaps you're both just jealous you didn't think of it?
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>>54476705
I like it, but the L needs to be wider. Also, please get rid of + GNU, because not every Linux has GNU utilities in it. The example I can think of is embedded devices.

>>54476873
Cliché. We're looking for something fresh!
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>>54476705
>plus GNU
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Here you go linus

(Loved scrapyard wars by the way)
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>>54476373
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>>54476373
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>>54477400
This isn't reddit, autismo.
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>>54476373
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>>54476373
It can't be done, Tux is already perfect.
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>>54476373
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It represents that Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>54477423
>Loved scrapyard wars by the way
Consider killing your self right now
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>>54479461
>All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux
>All
what if i compiled everything with clang, used a different libc and busybox coreutils?
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>>54479625
Then you'd get something like Alpine linux.
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>>54479633
>Alpine ganoo+linucks
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>>54479625
Then you'd find the logo especially likeable.
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>>54477423
Kek
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I like the bunsenlabs logo.
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>>54479625
That's not GNU, then
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>>54478387

delet this
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>>54476705
>plus GNU
ITS GAHNOO
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>>54479711
>ITS GAHNOO
It's it's, not its
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>>54476736
Commutative property of addition.
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>>54479761
Addition on strings is noncommutative
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>>54479664
Top-tier fucking logo
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>>54479664
Yeah, this is good.
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>>54476373
This has to be a troll. You can't be the father of Linux and expect serious logo suggestions from the chan....
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Bring back Tuz imo
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>>54482720
If they were to actually change it I'd say this would be the best option, except without the GNU part obviously. Only fags actually call it GNU/Linux. It's like they want people to hate it
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>>54482977
>this would be the best option
It was clearly made by an amateur. The curve representing the feet looks terrible, and although I understand the penguin is supposed to be turned some, it looks really goofy how one side of his body is way thicker than the other.

Also his beak looks unlike any mainstream penguin I know.
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>>54479664
NICE. Why isn't this official?
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>>54479831
those aren't strings, they're memes
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>>54476757
Can't compile Linux without GNU.
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>>54477423
Someone can't tell the difference between Linus Torvalds and LinusTechTips
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>>54479577
>>54483344
Somebody's too autistic to recognize a joke
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>>54483383
>getting reverse fooled
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>>54483415
joke's on you, I was just pretending to be fooled by you pretending to be fooled by somebody pretending to be a fool
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>>54477423
That looks like a screaming person. We don't want to give the impression Linux users are tortured.

>>54477521
Let's not start WW3. Apple has an army of religious fanatics.

>>54477823
Teenage Mutant Ninja Penguins?

>>54478387
Fuck off, Stallman. I knew you'd be lurking here.

>>54479384
Maybe add an axe and a shield to make it a bit more tacky.

>>54479461
Shouldn't it be the corner puzzle piece? ;)

>>54479664
Cool as fuck.

>>54482720
Fix the feet on that one. And make the arms/flippers a bit more realistic.

>>54482729
It's a rat!

Is that the best you can do, /g/. I was told this is _the_ place on the internet for logos.
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>>54476373
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>>54484355
Not bad.

>>54484395
SHOW ME YOUR WARFACE
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Was anyone else triggered by his ted talk where he said "it wasn't called open source, back then it was called free software"?
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>>54484419
>Not bad.
Actually is pretty hard to make it worse than the current logo.
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>>54484648
>the next digital revolution

2017 will be the year of the Linux desktop. I guarantee it.
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>>54484688
Sorry Linux, but there will never be the year of the Linux desktop since Linux is just one of many kernels of the GNU operating system.
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>>54476373
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>>54483983
>Is that the best you can do, /g/. I was told this is _the_ place on the internet for logos.
Maybe you were looking for /gd/?
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>>54484734
At what point does your operating system become GNU? If someone's running GCC and Emacs under Windows 7, is their operating system "GNU/Windows"?
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>>54484734
Stallman, you weasel.

The year of the Linux desktop is coming, it is only a matter of when. But the year of the GNU Hurd desktop will never come.
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>>54483983
nobody cares about your opinions faggot
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>>54479664
Make this official
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only one thing worse than people who use proprietary software
linux fanboys
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>>54484827
Windows is not a kernel, it's an operating system. The kernel of Windows is called NT. Would you call Windows just NT? No. So don't do it with GNU.
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>>54485001
So then what exactly is GNU as an operating system? What do "Linux distributions" have in common besides the kernel?
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>>54485001
>The kernel of Windows is called NT. Would you call Windows just NT? No. So don't do it with GNU.
“Windows” is the collective name for the whole package as called by the creators. NT is one of its components. The user interface is another, etc.

“Ubuntu” is the collective name for ubuntu as called by the creators. Linux is one of its components. The user interface is another, etc.

If you want me to call “Ubuntu” “GNU” instead, then you should also want me to call “Windows” “Explorer” instead.
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>>54485147

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>54485147
>What do "Linux distributions" have in common besides the kernel?
systemd
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>>54485221
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as GNU/Linux is in fact GNU. Linux is not part of the operating system itself, but is the kernel that is not covered by the naming system of an operating system as defined by common sense.

Many users run operating systems such as Windows, OSX, and a variant of BSD yet do not use a cumbersome naming system that includes the kernel, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, GNU has been the exception to this for no reason and has just been called "Linux" for no good reason, and many others use the insane, cumbersome term "GNU/Linux", mostly because the GNU project doesn't want you to think that Linux is a part of GNU.

There really is a Linux, and it's not part of GNU, but it's a kernel, and no one really specifies using it. GNU is the OS; the actual base system you interact with, and is useful with any compatible kernel; it can function with many different kernels such as GNU Mach or even kFreeBSD, so the whole system should only specify the kernel when it matters, because all these kernels are really irrelevant regarding GNU.
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>>54485206
>>If you want me to call “Ubuntu” “GNU” instead, then you should also want me to call “Windows” “Explorer” instead.
Nobody said that. If you're talking about a specific distro, call it by it's name, but when talking about the core operating system Ubuntu is running, call it GNU, because you don't know if a distro is running Linux or another kernel. There are many distros with different kernels like Arch and Debian for example.
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>>54485297
>ut when talking about the core operating system Ubuntu
nice “core operating system” you have there
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>>54485328
Do you still have the wallpaper (upper)?
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>>54485374
No, but you could take any square chunk of it and tile it
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>>54485382
That would imply basic technological understanding and computer literacy
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>>54485363
Your picture is misleading; it shows a distribution, not a operating system. The added components are different with every distro.
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>>54485396
Define “operating system” and point me out to which parts of the definition are implemented by GNU and which are implemented by non-GNU software in a typical Linux distribution.
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>>54485382
Good idea, thx. Nice to see you not tripfagging, btw.
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>>54485363
probably the most retarde graphic i've seen in a while
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>>54485406
read >>54485221
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>>54485395
btw it worked and I can upload the file
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>>54485447
You're my hero.
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>>54485423
So the entire basis of your argument is an outdated and overly specific definition from the 80's that also happens to exclude everything that isn't POSIX from technically qualifying as an “operating system” as defined by POSIX? Okay then.

Let's go quote a modern, commonly agreed upon definition from an encyclopedia with vast amounts of technical information - like, say, Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system#Components

>Storage abstraction, file systems
All done in the Linux kernel

>Provides an interface between the hardware and programs that run on it, and a way to start programs
All programs are loaded by the Linux ELF loader and interact with the environment using system calls into the Linux kernel

>Interrupt handling and device drivers
Linux kernel and modules

>Memory management, memory protection and virtual memory
Linux kernel

>Multitasking, scheduling
Linux kernel

>Networking
Linux

>Security, privileges, separation
Linux

>User interface
Typically consists of X.org and graphical environments running on it. Nobody uses GNU as a direct interface anymore.

POSIX's definition of an operating system seems to be mainly focused around the C programming language, i.e. “implement this programming language and provide these library functions”. But that's just bullshit in the modern age where we have HUNDREDS of programming languages in regular use, even within your system.

GNU is clinging desperately onto historical ballast in the hopes of gaining at least some amount of recognition before it dies off.
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Did I do good?
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>>54485447
>>54485434
>>54485455
>doesn't line up perfectly
shit
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>>54485434
>>54485447
>that imperfect tiling
lmao
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>>54485206
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>>54485549
>GNUfags literally no response
BTFO on every single point
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>>54485549
Nice to see that you "know" what a kernel does. Doesn't change the fact that Linux is just one completly interchangeable component of the GNU OS.

>>54485844
A discussion isn't about "who wins", kid.
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>>54479664
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>>54485473
/thread
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>>54476736
4+5=9
5+4=9
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>>54482720
This one is the best. It looks serious and real. Here is another version of it.
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>>54485250
Valid point.
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Best logo reporting in.
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>>54485434
You took out the wrong square.
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>>54485917
>A discussion isn't about "who wins", kid.
That's exactly what it is about you commie faggot. You're losing.
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>>54485917
>Nice you see that you "know" what a sphere is. Doesn't change the fact that the earth is flat.
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>>54486056
The fuck is the penguin eating?

>>54479664
Best on by a long, long way. An SVG of this would be great to have.
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>>54486158
I don't think that's a penguin bruh, but it appears to be eating a rabbit
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>>54485917
An operating system acts as the middle man when software is trying to use hardware. That is its purpose and that is what a monolithic kernel does. You can't fully compare it to Windows where the kernel does less.
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>>54486056
A penguin with a neckbeard?
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>>54476521
jej
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>>54486056
Penguin + GNU = <3
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>>54486210
>gif
>doesnt move
what is this, geocities?
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>>54486074
The GNU OS is in development since the 80s, it's using different kernels, one of them is the in the 90s developed kernel called "Linux". Do you understand now?
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>>54486360
gnu in and of itself is not a working os bruh, don't believe me, fine go use hurd as your daily driver
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>>54486282
Ohh I thought that was maybe the mouse from XFCE or something, but if it's a penguin and a gnu then this really should be some official logo because it looks nice and has a meaning.
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>>54486360
Lmao it's been in the development since the 80s and it still can't provide any of these basic OS features? >>54485549

Pathetic
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>>54486567
It doesn't work like you think you little shit. This isn't Windows, free software works with many different projects and components.
>still can't provide
But it can anon, by adding a kernel.
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>>54486628
get your own kernel shitstain
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>>54486675
http://www.archhurd.org/
https://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/
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>>54485972
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>>54486696
Then go use them, call it GNU, and leave us the fuck alone.

t. Linux user
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>>54476373
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>>54487071
>t. buthurt Linux user
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>>54487071
So then you concede that Arch and Debian are distributions of the GNU OS, and not "Linux distributions"?
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>>54476705

>not "GNU" taking up most of the image with "plus Linux" written beside it in 1 point font
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>>54479664
GOD TIER
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>>54487152
>>54487157
No, I'm telling you to come back with substance in your arguments instead of baselessly regurgitating the same wrong assumptions over and over and over and over again.

I have linked technical documentation and definitions; have presented diagrams, and sound arguments.

All I've heard out of you is the equivalent “Waaaaaaaaah the earth is flat. No matter how much you say it isn't, it's still flat. Just stop denying it.”
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>>54477423
if (LTT == linusTorvalds) {
installGentoo();
}
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>>54476373
Don't fix it if it aint broke...
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>>54484885

Cute
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Made a thread in /gd/ lets See if they actually do something
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>>54479664
using BunsenLabs rn
if you aren't using it you're missing out on gud shit and dank logos 4 dayz
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>>54484355
I like this one

>...but it's not as good as mine
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>>54490651
That's cute, mate :3
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>>54490663
Thanks. I stole it from an earlier thread.
> I'm a dirty thief
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>>54490680
Well, penguins are dirty too. Are you a penguin?
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>>54490727
I am.
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>>54490782
I knew it!
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>>54490869
Are you a furry?
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Created this using FREE and OPEN SOURCE software. No bell peppers were harmed in the making of this logo.
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>>54485363
If you're refering to ubuntu, you have bash as standard shell, which is GNU.

So the pic is not only ugly, it's also wrong!
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>>54485447
Hey mate, the lines don't match. Not even in your screen.
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>>54483473
You're both retards. Let's leave it at that before we go any deeper.
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>>54479664
Why does everyone lose their shit about this? It'd be horrible for Linux as a whole. What has Linux to do with a flame?
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>>54485473
don't talk to me or my wife's penguin ever again
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