>You'll never need more than 8GB
fuck you and everyone who said that
send help it has slowed to a crawl
>yfw you fell for the 8 GiB RAM meme
>>54475012
You should always buy the biggest ram modules for its generation regardless of what everyone says. i.e. 2gb sticks for DDR2, 8GB sticks for DDR3, and 16GB sticks for DDR4.
So then go buy some more.
What are you running that uses that much RAM anyway. Only time I get that high is when I run do work automation and open 50 tabs at once with JS running on all of then
I have 4GB and that's enough. I might upgrade to 8GB soon.
>>54475063
>So then go buy some more.
It's a fucking X1 carbon and I can't upgrade the RAM
>What are you running that uses that much RAM anyway. Only time I get that high is when I run do work automation and open 50 tabs at once with JS running on all of then
Running a single Windows VM and compiling my homework. I have like 5 tabs in chrome open.
>>54475100
>5 tabs in chrome open
>chrome
This is your issue
>>54475100
>tfw you fell for the ultrabook meme
I feel bad for your misery
$ free -h
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 7.7G 2.8G 295M 15M 4.6G 4.8G
Swap: 0B 0B 0B
Fucking WinMemers. This includes Firefox with about 5 tabs and mpv being open.
>>54475220
>5 tabs
I meant to say 50
Honestly though I have no idea what's causing it.
My compile job finished and I closed Visual Studio, but this had almost no impact.
The details pane doesn't show anything. Those are all chrome subprocesses and below that everything uses <= 10MB
Am I being memed here?
![2016-05-10 11_53_09-Process Explorer - Sysinternals_ www.sysinternals.com [IFTMSRL_giacomelli.marco].png](https://i.imgur.com/HxAxZXG.png "2016-05-10 11_53_09-Process Explorer - Sysinternals_ www.sysinternals.com [IFTMSRL_giacomelli.marco].png")
I've been working like this for 3 years
>>54475012
If history has taught us anything, it's that you will always need more RAM.
>>54475243
I remember MUH GAMING KILLER ETHERNET E2200 GAMER CARD having very shitty drivers that leaked memory all over the place.
>>54475243
if you have any torrent client running, it might map the files into the ram
>having less than 24gb
>>54475012
ayy lmao
>>54475276
>not upgrading to sandy bridge
>>54475276
>having less than 32gb
>>54475469
>not having 32GB of ECC that literally cost you less than 8GB of standard DDR3
>>54475100
>buying a non-used Thinkpad
oh dear
>>54475276
>having less than a terabyte
>>54475012
i'm using Fedora and i rarely go over 1gb. ram is only an issue when you let it be one.
>>54475012
Normal people don't need that much
Of course tech will change but we are nearing a point where a 10 year old computer can accomplish 99% of tasks a healthy human being with a social life will require of it.
>>54475012
i-i can go higher.
>>54475516
>running windows on this
I mean, what use do you have for this?
>>54475100
Turn down the Ram in your VM. Windows should still work decently with 2GB of ram.
>>54475012
I used to have 8gb on my laptop it was doing fine on w8.1. it's overkill on debian.
4gb is more than okay for debian.
On my mother's laptop I only installed 2gb (w7) and never heard any complaint.
>a gig is almost enough for me
What the hell are you guys doing, watching movies with the browser and the torrenting software open?
Fucking wasteful.
>>54475100
>a new chinkpad
wew lad
>a ultrabook meem with soldered ram
toplel kiddo
i have 12GB and barely ever use more than 3
i have a friend who says he wants to upgrade to 16GB to make his computer "faster" baka
>>54475519
>less than 1GB
Fuck, that would be over 2GB on my w7 build. Is Linux really that much more efficient with memory?
>>54475516
>8 physical processors
>160 logical processors
>>54475526
underrated post
theres just not many reasons to upgrade nowadays unless you play videogames
>>54475100
>letting the VM take as much RAM as it wants
Could be better considering I have only chrome with this thread open. I'm not as obsessed with resource usage as I used to be though, so 8 GB is plenty for me.
I've been using 2gb of ram for years.
Before 2012 i only had 1gb.
>>54475062
Stick to this. Be a good goi and buy the most expensibe regardless the actual demand.
>>54475497
> 32GB of ECC that literally cost you less than 8GB of standard DDR3
yeah, because ECC RAM is cheaper than normiert RAM.
Unless you buy old/used RAM modules ECC generaly is a bit morer expensive tham normal ram.
If you want the latest edgy ddr4ecc RAM, you have to pay more!
>>54475012
>buying a quadcore CPU
>buying more than 4GB ram
YOU'LL NEVER USE IT LMAO
ez.
>>54475759
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351676070173?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
all 4 sticks tested on their end before selling and working perfectly on my end
>Not realizing chrome is made to use up all the resources you have for da speedz.
Never use chrome if your actually doing something you need ram for.
>>54475813
I was talking about NEW, unused RAM modules not sold by some shady eBay cuk! You don't buy """"new"""" stuff off eBay.
>>54475914
its from fucking china, and quit being a little bitch, if it works and it doesnt convert power its good
>>54475220
Firefox with 56 tabs and winamp open.
>>54475986
>winamp
grandpa?
>>54476023
Too bad it's the best music player. You whippersnappers enjoy your foolbar or whatever.
>>54475012
>You'll never need more than 8GB if you actually give a shit about what's running in the background and don't use horribly bloated shitware
>>54476063
my niggy
>>54475516
The fuck do you use that for?
>>54475100
>runs a vm
>doesn't actually understand real memory management and lets others buy for him
I'm gonna guess your homework is on intro to dividing numbers, hows that going?
>>54476190
gaming probably lol
>>54476072
>You'll certainly need over 8gb if running a heavily virtualized system and doing real work
>>54476214
Damn, assuming a game could actually use more than 5% of those cores, just imagine the fucking performance.
Too bad most games these days can only use 4 cores, and only extreme ones can use 8...
Happened to me the other day. Something must have had a memory leak. I rebooted and it was fine.
>>54475012
>DISK 0 1%
>mfw I just deleted 280GB from my recycle bin
![Samsung-128GB-DDR4RAM[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Fq5suiR.jpg "Samsung-128GB-DDR4RAM[1].jpg")
>>54475062
>biggest ram module for its generation
>DDR4 16GB
>not 128GB
>>54475741
He didn't say to max your computer you dingus. You buy the largest single sticks available so that there's room to add more later. Single sticks are frequently the same or similar price as 2x smaller sticks. But go ahead, get 8x 1GB sticks so you can save $2, have fun tossing that once you need more
>>54476326
As you can see quite clearly, ram usage spiked from nearly nothing to 7.7gb. He's a retard who didn't configure his vm properly or did not do so for the spicy memes itc.
>640 kilobytes ought to be enough for anyone
>>54475100
Get out
>>54475012
Just buy more then.
>>54476353
>not using that ram to watching 200 4k porn videos on 200 chrome tabs
Fucking plebs.
>>54475526
Lazy coding of Internet browsers makes must sites unusable on older PCs.
Not to mention bloated as fuck Web pages.
>>54475516
Seriously wat. Do you run simulations or render or what?
>>54475062
Not true from 2011. RAM now soft-use limited in desktops/laptops like optical drive speeds and number of IO slots.
>>54475012
Games are for kids. Try video editing 4k with graphics on 8gb or ram.
Even when I bought a Thinkpad X230 in 2012 I put 16GB of RAM in it, it was $60 from Newegg for a 2 X 8GB kit. I definitely wouldn't get a laptop in 2016 with less than that.
In my desktop I put 32GB in. Occasionally do shit with video, sometimes run multiple Virtual Machines at once.
You can get down to 350mb in win 7 if you know how to de-bloat it.
>>54475012
>Two instances of Visual Studio 2015, currently debugging a website
>Firefox, about 20 tabs including a video
>Three tabs of Chrome with Google Play Music open
>Bloated enterprise Chrome-based client with 3 tabs
>Bloated enterprise RMM tool client
>Adobe Reader
>Sublime Text
>Slack
>SQL Server Management Studio
>MySQL Workbench
>4 file explorers
Using 11.4/16GB
Shit, niggers.
What are you doing so wrong with your memory?
I could easily cut this to 4-5 GB if I wasn't trying to do 30 things at once.
>>54475100
>using windows to compile stuff
>>54476689
chrome with more than a couple tabs will use heaps of memory, for starters
>>54476689
>only using 12gb
NIGGER
>>54475243
Try updating your chipset drivers
>>54475252
ciao marco giacomelli
>>54475100
8gb is the max on an x1 carbon
Unused RAM = wasted RAM
>>54476920
sure Pajeet so you can make dotnetframeworks on top of dotnetframeworks with zero programming skills and call yourself a 'senior professional software engineer with 25 years of dotnetframework experience'.
>>54475048
Just download more RAM.
>>54475204
/thread
>>54476920
That's why programs should eat up as much RAM as possible. Games using 10+ GB of RAM sounds like a great idea.
>>54477231
I really like my ultrabook. It is a fully functioning laptop but really small so I can carry it around.
>>54476756
Mdr chrome nowadays is most efficiënt memory wise
>>54475243
The memory Windows refers too in this screenshot is Private Memory
Go to detail tab and add Shared memory.
Compare both.
VMware is pretty notorious of doing this
>>54476190
>>54476621
>>54475535
it's a widely available screenshot that came from MS
Reverse image search it
>>54476358
Literally nobody does this. Please hang yourself.
>>54477350
8 tabs in Chrome is taking 1.2GB on my PC right now. Firefox with over two dozen is taking far less.
>>54476358
>Single sticks are frequently the same or similar price as 2x smaller sticks.
There is a reason why they commonly sell in sets of 2 smaller instead of 1 larger
You lose dual channel, which you do not want
>>54476358
I have 4 slots and i used 2x4gb. Tell me how would i do better with one 16gb stick if i barely use 4gb at once and bought 2 only because dualchannel an occasional ram hungry apps.
>>54477540
Its because each tab and each extension in chrome runs as it's own process with its own working set of memory.
This means it uses memory like a whore uses condoms. BUT it means it's more stable and will rarely slow down, assuming your computer has enough RAM for it.
nearly out of the box mate install with compiz, chrome, firefox, ssh and some other small apps open
>>54476621
Run 100 instances of crisis at once
>>54475516
>feel for the 1024GB meme
Just werks.
I have 12GB and while initially I thought "theres no way I'll ever need more than eight" I changed my mind when I rendered some massive filed in Photoshop and ended up drawing 10GB.
Well, shit, guess I'll buy myself more ram. This is a potentially stupid question, is 8GB + 4GB okay?
>>54478383
yeah. However if one stick is for example 1333mhz and another one is 1600mhz they both work at 1333mhz
>>54478945
Most of /g/ and /v/ are going to forget to go into their BIOS and properly set their RAM to run at the right clock anyways.
>>54475220total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 125G 70G 21G 150M 34G 54G
Swap: 4.0G 270M 3.7G
Never enough RAM...
>>54475012
>>54475048total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 15975 7155 8820 250 125 1335
-/+ buffers/cache: 5694 10280
Swap: 32551 0 32551
What the hell are you doing my m8?
>>54475012
Suck my cock faggot. You probably have a shit ton of viruses and bloat. I did clean install of Windows 10, idle at 900mb and all my botnets running about 1.5gb tops.
>>54475012
>can't estimate and assess your own computing needs
You are just as retarded as the /g/ iditos who thrown in blanket statements of something being "enough", "future proof" or "meme". I ran out of the 16 GB yesterday when editing images. 32 GB here I come.
>>54475100
CHROME
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>>>/b/
>>>/b/
>>>/b/
>>54479069
>the 32GB of RAM meme
>>54479005
>implying I speak Nazi
>>54477613
I am failing to see how chrome wins this argument friend.
>>54479389
Well it's more stable than FF. If a chrome extension has problems, that specific extension can be restarted without effecting the rest of the browser.
This is not the case with FF or opera, where if you have something fuckup, and it needs to restart you most likely have to restart the entire browser.
Chrome doesnt just use more RAM for shits and giggles, though it can seem that way sometimes. Especially if you have an extension installed with a memory leak.
>>54475454
In Windows, does Paged memory mean 'written to a pagefile'? If so, why would anything need to be paged in this sort of config?
>>54479442
yup
it doesnt, i just forgot to disable it
>>54479471
Makes sense. I've noticed FreeBSD/OSX/Linux only touch the pagefile if something seriously hammers the memory to it's limit (esp BSD, which avoids the pagefile at all costs) but Windows is crazy about paging things out-of-the-box. It's weird to me.
>>54475012
>tfw got 16 GB of ram for no good reason
i just shitpost here and do nothing productive, i don't even watch hd videos.
you firefox retards do know having a tab open isn't that same as having it loaded right?
>>54475614
Yes and on certain distro you get like 300mb at idle
>>54479579
I'm not exactly certain what you're trying to say.
All of my tabs are 'loaded'. For example, the 10-20 4chan tabs all update properly in the background, serve notifications, and update their titles as new posts come in.
Are you referring to the fact that a tab isn't loaded until you click on it for the first time after starting the browser?
>>54475516
How many VMs do you run on Hyper-V?
>>54479911
>virtualization disabled
so none.
>>54479917
Excuse me sir for you have misunderstood me.
How many Hyper-V VMs are you planning on running on this machine
>>54479063
Mine even uses less than 800MB idle after having killed Cortana and all the other botnets, OP definitely has a problem and it's not >Windows
>>54475012
>not having 32GB of RAM
>>54475012
>ITT: faggots swinging their ramdicks
>>54475012
just in desktop and 9GB eaten, dunno how can you live with 8GB lol
have another 16GB prepared for installation but I did not shut down my PC in 60 days so ill install them when I decide to restart xD
>>54475062
I was always told never to get single, always run dual. So what the fuck do you need 32gb for right now? If you're building a new system I'd just say go for 2x8gb DDR4. 16 is more then enough for the next 4-5 years.
>>54480231
>amd
how fucking retarded are you pajeet?
>>54480691
Shut up faggot
>>54475012
On my workstation I have 32GiB of RAM plus an additional 64GiB of swapspace on my SSD.
I still run out on occasion.
On my home PC I mostly use ~5-8GiB, but I can't imagaine having anything less than 16 GiB with some swap space install.
>>54480338
>not filling all slots with the biggest sticks you can find
>>54477561
>he doesn't know about 2 larger
>>54476689
>visual studio
>debugging a website
no fucking wonder you need 20gb of ram
B L O A T
>>54477001
technically if you always work with 4 screens and 4 different instances of pajeet studio 2015 after a 3 years you can claim you have had over 12 years of experience with dotnindia
>>54481567
Visual Studio is using less than 200MB of RAM while debugging a 2000+ LoC website.
Chrome uses that with two tabs open.
Anon, don't fall for the memes.
>>54481567
>>54481630
kek, I underestimated Chrome by a lot, and VS by a little.
700+ MB for TWO(2) tabs of Chrome.
>one youtube tab
>one Google Play Music tab
270 MB for Visual Studio while the website is currently running locally in debug.
32GB is really the minimum when it comes to any kind of a content creation.
I had 16GB and constantly maxed it out when drawing and painting in Photoshop.
Upped it to 24GB a bit better, but still manage to max it out with relative ease.
>>54475220
Another problem is no swap
>>54478224
Photoshop users, how much RAM do you get by on? I found CC is a little bit better at managing memory than CS6
>>54475557
Debian here. Normal user.total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 15G 7,7G 7,9G 261M 166M 1,7G
-/+ buffers/cache: 5,8G 9,8G
Swap: 31G 0B 31G
>>54475012
i'm having the same problems. whenever i torrent anything or watch a sports stream on my 2nd monitor my pc slows to a half and i end up having to restart every single time.
>>54482149
Holy shit. How many projects do you have open?
>>54475062
My X99 board supports up to 64GB quad channel memory and has 8 slots, I have 4x8GB modules, why the fuck would I go for 2x16 GB when I'd max out my board at half the DIMMs? 8GB DIMMs is the ideal configuration.
>>54483950
Is it bad that I read this as “How many pajeets do you have open?”?
>>54483608
Oh, thanks!
people help!
have 8gb and windows 10
have 10-20 chrome tabs open and play a video game
I rarely used 7GB but when I play a game it sometimes interrupts and tells me to close programs. sometimes the game crashes.
i got an amd 2gb video card
does windows 10 just suck? can i turn off the notification?
>>54479036
ur only using almost only 1gb less than him...
>>54479063
anon thats 1.7gb
>>54483971
Yeah, you'd lose half your memory bandwidth since x99 can use quad channel memory configurations.
I get ~62Gb/s memory bandwidth with 4x8GB DDR4 @ 3200mhz.
Good luck getting that with dual channel.
>not having 64GB RAM
>>54475100
>not using a cloud compiler
>>54484705
What do you need 64GB of RAM for?
>>54475579
What OS is that?
>>54475600
Some people use there PC for productivity. I need way more then 8gb for graphic design.
Firefox eats so much damn ram.
But not as much as DaS3.
>>54475012
uninstall chrome you idiot
>>54484870
RAMming cocks into his mouth
>>54475012
> not reversing back engineering your Hardware and get the most out of it.
Obviously you retards don't need more than 8GB with your 10 year old low end computers while jacking off to sex horses. If you ever stop being poor and get actuall computer that can use 8+ and you actually get the $30 for another 8 gigs let us know.
>>54485088
It's literally the same as the meme cards like R7 240 4GB. The card will catch on fire 10 times before it even gets close to using half of that
>>54476190
>The fuck do you use that for?
That's a hyperV machine good god why are you morons on this board?
>>54475100
Why are you so stupid? Windows should be on disk and Linux should be in a VM.
>>54475813
>>54475929
>ECC RAM
>from China
Well that kinda defeats the purpose
>>54475579
>What the hell are you guys doing, watching movies with the browser and the torrenting software open?
Windows uses that ram for precaching so you don't have to load everything from slow hdd like on your outdated meme os.
>>54475012
>open up two games which use the 32-bit addressing limit
>open up a browser that caches everytbing and has libraries for a dozen bloated plugins
>take a screenshot and complain on /g/
>>54479069
>I ran out of the 16 GB yesterday when editing images. 32 GB here I come.
I learned early on that there is no such thing as too much RAM when it comes to editing images. Go for it.
>>54483726
I used to be okay with 16GB, but this was back in 2011. Now I'm at 32GB.
>>54484578
Stop using Chrome. 41 tabs open and only hit 700 to 800mb of RAM on FF, the fuck are you doing?
>>54479542
If you aren't using 6 gb with your browser you aren't shitposting at all
Open every board and as many threads as you can
>>54475741
>>54480338
>>54483971
Back. That's because you're all short-sighted. Once a generation is over only the biggest module dimms can be resold at very high prices, the rest are junk that nobody wants.
>>54485088
>not jacking off to 50 horses at the same time
>>54475579
>procexp64.exe
Neat.
>>54480021
>killed Cortana
You think she's gone? Tsk Tsk ...
>>54475642
Less videogames and more actually intensive work. I can hit over 14 gigs of 16 when rendering from Premiere and that's not even long/complicated clips
>>54475100
Congratulations. You have learned a life lesson. You now realize you need to evaluate your needs for your purchases BEFORE you spend the money. Too bad its too late and you now have a $1500 device that can't do what you need it to.
>>54482613
>Another problem is no swap
last time i used a swap partition was around 2004
>>54475454
this is my dream... soon....
>>54475464
>>not upgrading to sandy bridge
Lol. Look at this dumbass.
In the future we're not going to be able to function without 64Gb RAM. My 32gb desktop slows down more than I'd like.
>>54475012
>>54486152
>mfw ahoviewer used up all of my RAM and swap
>>54475012
I only got 16 gig accidentally
xPoint dims fucking where?
Stop using Emacs
>>54480336
>just in desktop and 9GB eaten, dunno how can you live with 8GB lol
>just in desktop and 9GB eaten
>desktop and 9GB eaten
>9GB
Fucking what.
>>54475516
>tfw his L2 cache is bigger than your system RAM
>tfw his L3 cache is bigger than your SSD
>>54487561
You have less than 20mb of ram?
>>54487561
Are you living in 1998? 20mb of ram and 200mb of drive space is nothing...
8GB of RAM:
>editing multiple 5k wallpapers in PSD.
>watching 4k demo video in full resolution.
>listening to music on iTunes.
Still low memory pressure. Get rekt winfags.
>>54489212
Is this that one Dell monitor?
Also, how much CPU does mpv use for you? It always seems to hover around 40-50 for me in Activity Monitor, which as I understand it equates to 1/2 of one core (4 cores = total of 400, 1 core pegged at full = 100)
>>54489432
It's an iMac.
I don't know how much mpv uses, but I stream over LAN so it probably uses a bit more than normal.
>>54475012
>2016
>WIndows
Ahahahaha lol lmfao!
>>54489212
Can you share that wallpaper?
>>54489536
fix
>>54489544
https://my.mixtape.moe/ppyggg.png
>>54485179
works for me senpai, RAM is RAM
>>54487026
hoppin on that xeon train eh?
Why would you put more than 16GB on a Windows machine? Such a waste.
>Having Something....
>>54475012
Most of that is probably your disk cache you idiot.
>>54489869
that chart doesn't include system caches
>>54475243
Try turning it off and going outside. You don't seem ready for computers.
>>54475539
>Turn down the Ram in your VM. Windows should still work decently with 2GB of ram.
This is what 8GB cucks are forced to do.
I purchased 16GB along with my i5 2500k back in 2012. How can you idiots still be stuck on 8GB?
>>54475100
>>54475012
Windows 10 with the latest updates compresses memory when needed, it's a pretty useful feature. OS X also uses this method since memory in the mac is also very expensive.
> tfw I checked ram usage myself and only used 16GB+ memory to build a PC
It's fucking comfy.
>>54475012
Amazon
Search 2x 8GB DDR3
Click buy now
Was that so fucking hard?
>mfw I am still totally fine with 4GB RAM
>>54479635
This is true. Try Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Mate, or Mint XFCE (not listing the cinnamon one cause in my case its uses 550...)
Is this Peasantry: The thread?
Thanks for reminding me that my 2x8gb doesnt come in until tomorrow night, and that I won't use 24gb RAM until Friday.
>>54475516
But I don't :^)
>implying 4gb isn't more than a normal person needs
:^)
>>54475252
Marco Giacomelli, devi tenere tutto aperto contemporaneamente?
>>54491705
>mint xfce
Any reason to use this over xubuntu?
>>54475243
Check your running VMs
>>54475243
Chrome kek
>>54492986
Being a faggot is the best reason.
>>54492012
>>54475100
>thinkpad
DON'T TALK TO ME OR MY SON EVER AGAIN.
>>54475012
I say that to people so that I feel better about having 32GB of DDR3
>>54475012
Sorry, can't hear you over this spacious LPDDR3 ceiling. Please speak up.
>>54493831
>he only has 16GB
