is.
..you're...
....body....
.......ready.......
..............?
i can't wait for my 980ti to become weaker than a 1060 in a few driver updates
seriously fuck nvidia
>you're
Retard
>>54473639
yes please
at least a company is pumping out good products instead of that useless heap of shit that AMD is pumping out nowadays
>>54473639
Learn to write instead.
>>54473639
is your fire extinguisher ready?
That shit looks like a dildo
>>54473652
>Not buying AMD
we told u bro
>>54473639
Yes I can't wait to get my hands on a 1070. Faster than titan x performance for £300. Fucking bargain mate.
>>54473639
10 rupees have been deposited into your account
>still can't do async properly
kek
>>54473652
I'm already experiencing frame drops on my 980ti rig
It cant even do 100 fps stable on my woltk private server anymore
>>54473639
>7,5
My 980ti is stable @1400
>>54473639
My body is, but my wallet isn't.
>>54473639
Yes reggie! Now let's continue invading this board because several boards for video games is apparently not enough.
>>54473838
Show me just a single dildo remotely similar to that shit and I might consider getting one.
>>54474189
my 980TIs stock clock was @1470
at 1600MHz the GTX1080@1800 was still faster than my TI.
nvidia showed a GTX1080 running at over 2000MHz
Thank god I managed to sell my TI for 600
>>54473639
You know shills are underpaid when they can't even type a word or sentence properly.
>is...you're.......body...........ready.....................?
>>54474688
>>54473816
Can you fucking redditards leave already? That bait has been used for ages for idiots like you.
check the catalog and keep it in one thread, Rajesh
Is there any reason not to wait for them to release the same card with hbm in a year or so?
>>54473639
Gotta hand it to them, this is fucking amazing gpu. Very hard to top.
Shill introduction video.
https://youtu.be/JUL6Gc2g4kg
>>54473928
yet still is going to beat AMD in every single game there is. The way it is meant to be played.
>>54473639
It is, as well as my wallet. I got a Vive and 3 144hz monitors and a projector and 3 7inch lcd's that need to eat up that power.
>>54474745
why are you pretending to be retarded?
>>54473652
>>54473947
ok, I hear this every graphics card generation, but I've never seen empirical evidence for it
if it's true, there's serious potential for a class action
>if we use 'gaming' enough times teenagers will buy our shit
>>54474760
I'm pretty sure he just naturally is.
>>54473639
>tfw people were laughing at you for being a waitfag
>tfw they all bought 970's and 980 ti's
>tfw my 1080 will beat the piss out of both while consuming much less power and giving more room for overclocking
Literally can't wait for all the tears famalamadingdang
>>54474792
>tfw my several year old gpu can still play any recent game on max settings flawlessly
Keep buying meme cards fa/g/got.
>>54474792
>new card will outperform old one
WHAT IS THIS WITCHCRAFT
>>54474760
Nvidia can just give some money so they will run better on Nvidia.
There are less than 10 dx12 titles coming up and none of them are good. By the time they are out AMD is hopefully bankrupt ;^)
Nvidia runs cooler
Nvidia has better drivers
Nvidia has better industry support
Nvidia has more "the way it's meant to be played" titles.
Nvidia Nvenc/cuda/physx/gsync/shadowplay
Nvidia SLI scales better and works smoother.
Nvidia has bigger budget, bigger than entire of AMD.
There is no reason to ever pick AMD.
>>54474792
>tfw some faggot will post this at you in a couple months and you're going to feel like shit
>>54474745
>>54474826
>this much autism
I can't make you shut up, but I can filter you :')
Unpaid shills are the most autistic.
>>54474893
You sure showed me. Leave the GPU's to the professionals, leave it to the Nvidia.
>>54474826
Kill yourself tripfag
>>54473639
>599 for reference model / """"founders"""" edition
oy vey, I like nvidia but that's just retarded.
>>54474826
/v/ is the other way around
>>54474905
>nvidia
>professional
Kek.
>>54474826
>the company that has the most marketing deals has the best products
Are you serious mate? Besides market share the companies and their products are extremely similar. I think you fell for the green text le epin gaming meme.
>>54474961
it's 699
>>54474770
Sort off. A guy in /v/ posted his screens and documentation of it and found the newer drivers dropped his fps by 1 or 2. He noticed the impact slowly increment as the updates got newer. I've even had times where newer drivers fucked me. But so far I haven't seen any proof that nvidia are intentionally gimping these drivers.
>>54475018
>699
:^(
goyim not happy
>twice the gaming performance
Wow I feel compelled to buy it already
>you're
>>54474597
>my 980TIs stock clock was @1470
The fuck?
>>54475033
I have a 780 and both of Nvidias March(April?) updates fucked my rig up. There was articles on it and I honestly couldn't believe it. Lucky my card wasn't bricked or anything, just my windows installation was screwed. After reinstalling the OS, Ive been using November drivers. Everything works fine now and I'm actually afraid to update drivers now. Call me paranoid but if I hadn't experienced it first hand I would've never believed it.
>>54475073
what driver version?
>>54475073
I have two 780's and theat game ready update they had for mgs IV fucked the performance for skyrims. I had to roll back and wait for the next update. But having to reinstall your OS just sounds like you fucked something up to be honest.
>>54475093
I don't remember. There was 2 for that month. I think it was March. I'm on mobile so I'm too lazy to confirm.
>>54475033
>A guy in /v/ posted his screens and documentation of it and found the newer drivers dropped his fps by 1 or 2
you fucking entitled millennial babbies are fucking ridiculous, even if the 1-2 fps drop is statistically significant it's well in line with what could be expected with a driver update for a myriad of reasons. just don't update your drivers if you're happy with what you've got or roll back to an older driver.
But most games can already be played on high settings with a much older card
>>54475103
Trust me, all I did was update the driver like normal and play dark souls for a few hours. The only other thing I had opened was a document I was typing up. Nothing out of the ordinary. The pc stayed on the loading windows screen only and never went through, sometimes it would attempt automatic repair. I tried everything to fix it buy just gave up and decided to reinstall. I'm glad I keep everything on my other drives. Look it up on Google. One of the symptoms was problems to the OS.
Friendly reminder the GTX 1080 showed to be 10% faster than a 980ti in leaked benchmarks and not that "twice a Titan X" monster NVidia is trying to sell
>>54475180
twice the performance was in VR wasn't it, idiot
>>54475134
Did you not read the last line? I said it doesn't seem like they are doing it on purpose.
>>54475138
That sucks man. Do you think it was intentional or just a fuck up?
>>54473639
>fermi 2
I'm excited just for all the new house fire memes.
>tfw 750ti
>>54473947
I am getting frame drops as well on the private WOTLK server(warmane) and i even set everything to low to test it and i still get frame drops so you know, maybe it's not the graphics card fault. Running an i5+280x. And we are talking about a game that i ran back in the day on a single core celeron 2.4gz, 512 ram and fx5200.
>>54475217
Sometimes the installer fucks up on its own too.
>>54473639
GTX 1080 Founders Edition = GTX 1080 The Graphic Jew
Do I buy AMD stock and sell when the Zen comes out or buy NVIDIA and sell when 1080 comes out?
Is you are body ready? >>54473639
>>54474745
AMD retards cant accept the truth
fact is 980TI still fucks everything that AMD has to offer and now the GTX1080 is gonna do everything the 980TI can even better
the R9 series is ATIs HD 2000 series all over again, it's fucking laughable
>>54475330
buy fingerprint cards
>>54474808
>tfw my several year old gpu
ofcourse it does when you only play games like lol/dota/cs
or shitty indiegames/ports
>>54475227
you must be living under a rock the last couple of days
>>54474770
There are multiple articles on the internet. People posted lots of benchmark comparisons with different driver versions.
>>54475760
any links?
>>54475033
slow decrements over a long period of time could be due to lots of things, like an aging HDD -- there needs to be some more rigorous testing
>>54473639
>gaming perfected
Yeah, because playing games is the only thing you can do with a strong GPU.
>#GameReady
Fuck off.
>>54475936
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/831639/geforce-700-600-series/nvidia-is-deliberately-downgrading-kepler-gpus-performance-in-favor-of-maxwell-/
This is just example. Google "nvidia gimping" there is a lot of shit to read.
>>54475674
>any recent game
Stop projecting faggot
>>54475982
I was hoping there'd be something more compelling than "NVIDIA isn't supporting previous generation cards with driver optimizations"
but there's nothing here that says as far as I can tell that they are actively gimping performance with driver versions
>>54475978
Tbh i rarely even game anymore. I use gpu mostly for high quality anime playback on muh PC.
>>54476001
>>54475982
obviously a 780 ought to outperform a 960, but you have to show that at one point in driver history it did, and now it doesn't
>>54475978
>>54476004
>they buy gpus for their anime
>>54476029
Anime is serious business, man.
>>54473652
780ti user here
It is less gimping and more they just don't update drivers for new games. Nvidia has absolute SHIT long term support. They seem to stop driver optimizations almost the day after there new arc comes out. They still do bug fixes though.
Cant wait for DX12 Gimpworks to come and buttfuck everyone.
>>54476029
this lol wtf
if anything you shouldn't get the $600+ cards you should get a quiet one or even a completely silent passively cooled one, it should still be stronk enough for anime
>>54476001
It seems you just dont want to believe into nvidia gimping desu.
> Nvidia forums ablaze with Kepler-gimping accusations
This doesn't just apply to the Witcher 3, but it looks like many of the latest drivers put out by Nvidia have been purposefully gimping 600/700 series cards.
>Kepler is being badly neglected and even 1st gen GCN is slowly pulling away from Kepler cards in newer games.
It's pretty ridiculous. The lifespan of Nvidia cards is shocking.
Another example: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/more-evidence-shows-nvidia-gpus-losing-performance-32925136/
>What's even more troubling is that thanks to Gamworks performance is actually worse now then before and is especially hitting Kepler owners (GTX 6XX/7XX) series who play Fallout 4 who sees an astonishing level of performance decline.
>The author puts the lack of optimization of nVidia GPU's to what he calls nVidia's "planned obsolescence" where as he later points out when Pascal comes out and the benchmarks for Pascal come out the owners of the GTX 7XX or the GTX 9XX series will only look at the benchmarks of Pascal and compare that to their current GPU's so if nVidia can gimp or not optimize their current GPU's it will give them more incentive to buy new GPU's
>>54474712
>taking the bait
Grow up faggot
>>54476137
my 720p anime plays fine on my ice age atom n270
>>54476114
nvidia has much better long term support than amd, they have years longer support for each product, the fact that the optimizations top out sooner is due to GOOD driver support, do you want better performance now or do you want it to slowly improve over several years
>>54476160
is it 10-bit though?
>>54476162
>nvidia has much better long term support than amd
You are fucking delusional if you think that. The 780TI is faster than the 970 on early titles and on some new shit it manages to be even slower than my 7970ghz edition. I know the gimping first hand.
>>54476187
lags occasionally on 10bit but still
>>54476162
>do you want better performance now or do you want it to slowly improve over several years
You basically saying that gimping their cards is ok because you gain some edge in performance before new cards are released.
>As you can see GTX 9XX series is losing performance with the Kepler series being hit hard with the GTX 780 Ti, Titan and GTX 770/680 is now losing performance by 30% whereas AMD GPU saw performance increase of of 24%-30% with the Fury X is getting an astonishing 30% boost in performance. Which is pretty significant even when compared to an overclocked 980 Ti.
AMD ages like wine.
>>54476217
yeah like 1 fps slower at 4k or some irrelevant shit like that
>>54476234
>AMD ages like wine.
because they're slow as fuck to get their drivers up to par, idiot
>>54476232
fair enough
>tfw you realize a graphics card has more memory than your current machine
should I off myself? or my machine?
>>54476238
The delusion. Damn.
>>54476256
i'm definitely upgrading my shit this year
>>54476238
this is the power of Nvidia
WOW
So is there hardware ASIC on pascal? or is it software emulation bs all over again.
>>54476285
>being this delusional
if amd had good driver support they'd have optimized drivers much sooner, not several years after release
>>54476313
this is your brain on Nvidia
>>54473845
With AMD, you don't have to wait for the updates. It comes that way out of the box
>>54476343
kek
>>54473639
>nvidya cucks
Why do you even need a meme graphics card anyway apart from underage FPS games?
Anybody who buys nvidia this generation gets what they deserve, you suckers need to wise up
>>54474826
>SLI scales better
LOL no chance.
>Shadowplay
Raptr GVR
>Gsync
Freesync
>>54476001
>>54476162
>Results seemed to show that since the release of Maxwell in newer games Kepler based cards performance has decreased to such a point where the GTX 780 was performing almost the same as an R9 280x.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1529108/are-nvidia-neglecting-kepler-optimization-since-maxwell-release
>>54476365
i have a hd6970 and fuck you, i can't even run dual desktop monitors without the fan ramping up and it heating up the room like crazy, fuck you i'm getting a gtx 1070
>>54476398
to be fair 6970 is a shit card in terms of heat ouput, had mine scream like a banshee each time I played CS 1.6
>>54476379
that sounds about right what the fuck are you even on about, the 780 ti equivalent card fucking years ago was 290x and the 780 was always significantly weaker
>>54473639
does the gtx 1080 only do 1080p gaming?
>>54476365
Nah. They're good buying flagships every year!
>>54476418
for proper maxed out gaming at high frame rates you're looking at 1080p regardless of what setup you have, maybe 1440p, 4k can be playable but with settings turned down
>>54476432
As someone with a 2560x1440@144hz monitor and a Fury X pushing it, I'd say if you're looking for 144hz stable, you'd need to be looking at 1080. If you don't mind as long as its 60 or above, 1440 is possible in some games, but not in others.
>Inb4 some Nvidia shill comes along
No, not even a single 980ti would do it. Not 144hz stable in the newest games.
>>54473639
>10: GAMING PERFECTED
So is this the last nvidia card? Last graphics card we will ever need?
Can't improve on perfect, can you?
>>54473856
If you think we will get American low prices then you are deluded.
>>54474792
I think you mean mfw, newfag
>>54476343
HUE
>>54473639
>>54473808
>>54474826
>>54475036
Is your body ready for 5 more FPS!!!!!!!!!
>>54476584
>b-but muh amd
>muh async compute
>>54476637 <--HURTINNN!!!
>>54476653
being THIS delusional, even in this amd-optimized shitty shit game with the async compute meme it still beats the fury x by a significant amount
>>54476584
Doesn't change the fact that it will be 40-50% faster than all AMD's offerings in every other game.
>>54476375
Freesync and raptor are fucking trash. Sli still scales better than driverless crossfire amd setup.
>>54476365
AMD users are still buying the same card after 7-10 years.
Amdcucks argument muhhhh async.
>less than 3 games are going to benefit from this until 2017 maybe even 2018
>>54476687
But it doesn't scale better, it scales worse.
It typically has better frametimes, but it doesn't scale better.
>>54476249
>>54476687
>Sli still scales better than driverless crossfire amd setup.
people should be banned for posting misinformation.
>>54473639
is you are body ready?
do you even english mato desu ne?
>>54476637
>>54476584
>>54476682
That's WITHOUT a-sync on.
I should know, I have a Fury X and own Ashes.
Asynchronous shaders ON makes it run much, much better.
>>54476682
Amdcucks in nutshell. Meanwhile greens are enjoying bitchin fast 3D,new technologies and new architectures, while MAD cucks are still buying same card in 2016... I mean 2017
Selling my Fury X for a 1080 because it's better.
AMD is targeting the midrange this gen.
Simple as that you cucks.
>>54476709
why don't you post a benchmark chart of that then, stupid amdcucks with your unsubstantiated claims
>>54476737
>AMD targeting 95% of the market, not NEETs
Sounds like a solid plan
>>54476748
Give me 3 minutes, that's how long the bench takes.
1440p crazy preset, ya? On it.
I wonder what kind of CPU i'll need to run those cards (r9 490 included).
If my i5 3550 is enough for a 970, it must be enough for a 1070/R9 480, r-right guys?
>>54476916
95% of market doesn't even know AMD or keeps it as shit poorfag pajeet brand.
>>54476916
>Implying NEETs have the spare money to buy high end cards
Kek, also the GTX970 was the bestseller last generation.
I will only buy an AMD card if the R9 490X is somewhat faster than a R9 390X AND has the average power draw of a GTX 970.
Yes, electricity bills here play a role, and so does the cooling and the heat dissipation therefore.
Efficiency is everything.
>>54476748
Okay, I take that back. I was mistaking the crazy and extreme settings results.
Here's my log, since I couldn't get screenshots because lolnooverlay.
So yes, I was wrong. Like I say, I'd mistaken it for the extreme preset results.
DOOM on Pascal GTX 1080 hitting 150 fps at times powered by Vulkan based on AMD Mantle API. SAY FUCKING THANK YOU A.M. FUCKING D!!!!
>>54476687
>AMD users are still buying the same card after 7-10 years.
I'm running 2 7950's from the year of 2012. Both of them are capable of A-Sync on DX12 and Vulkan. It's 2016 and not one GTX1080 card can do this.
>>54477035
ma nigga, thats sweet.
>>54476584
>>54476748
This is DX11.
>>54477035
Nigger you tested in wrong resolution (2560x1440). Test 1080p. Also look >>54477077
>>54477106
Go back to the original image; it has a 1440p bench below the 1080p bench.
Still, I'll do it for you. It'll likely come out with the same numbers that the original image did.
>>54477057
Hey, if I'm wrong I ought to own up to it. I want that from other people, so I should be doing the same.
Here's the extreme bench, which is what I play on and why I was mistaken by the whole only 45fps thing.
>>54476114
>It is less gimping and more they just don't update drivers for new games.
>They seem to stop driver optimizations almost the day after there new arc comes out.
This. I've never seen old games get suddenly worse, but all of a sudden with new releases your card just isn't competitive with its former peers anymore,
> t. GTX 670 owner
Of course AMD quit optimizing pre-GCN as much too, but I get the feeling that they don't intentionally give every architecture they release a 2-year useful lifetime.
>>54477041
>150 fps indoors
>relevant
Give me some open world performance and then we can talk.
>>54477077
That's odd, since I never, ever choose the DX11 option - I always choose the DX12 one.
What's the odds that the bench scoreboard doesn't filter out crossfired/SLI GPU's as what they are? Would explain why they're #1 on the board too.
>>54476418
>does the gtx 1080 only do 1080p gaming?
it's sure as fuck not going to be a 4k card given its gimped memory bus/bandwidth.
> 1440p probably at least reasonable
>>54473639
I may leave /g/ for a couple of weeks.
My body is not ready for the constant shill post that we have to endure prior to a gpu launch.
PSA for non shill anon if any (doubtful at this point): Wait for benchmarks and reviews.
>>54477175
Its says (mGPU) if you use sli, crossfire or whatver. So it must be a single card.
>>54477106
So here you go.
i7 4790k @ stock paired with a Fury X @ stock, 1920x1080 crazy settings DX12.
Matched up to what the graph said >>54476584.
>>54477232
I might just screencap and frame this post on my wall as it's an incredible show of sanity compared to the rest of the board.
Everyone loosing their mind over a card that's fractionally faster than Titan X? The minority with half a fucking brain cell or more can safely assume it's not a miracle.
Remember everyone. Nvidia still cannot into ASync
my classified 980ti is fine, thanks
>>54477256
Now show the entire leaderboard for that.
There's a fucking Radeon Pro Duo that has obviously been benchmarked by a reviewer using Ashes.
Its in fifth place.
To have a single Fury X in front of it, I don't even know how. Either its a hack in software that makes two Fury (X?)'s look like one, or its some kind of SUPER OC'er who does balls to the wall insane stuff like phase changing the GPU.
>>54474826
your /v/ is showing anon...
>>54477258
>>54477308
I dont know anymore....
>>54474826
>>Nvidia runs cooler
By Design, I'll give you this
>>Nvidia has better drivers
That include huge amounts of bloatware the average user doesn't need
>>Nvidia has better industry support
"Better" than AMD? No open-source support.
>>Nvidia has more "the way it's meant to be played" titles.
This is what your money goes to when you buy their products, not better hardware, it goes to Nvidia to Shill out and give free hardware to production studios to make titles with UltimactusXXX support for Nvidia (ie. They are paid to give nvidia the privilege)
>>Nvidia Nvenc/cuda/physx/gsync/shadowplay
x264, x265, intel quicksync > Nvenc
"MUH CUDA CORREESSS!!!"
PhysX ouch you got me. But if you really cared about the progression of technology then you wouldn't support this argument. NvidJews care more about their sheckles that they do the industry.
FreeSync > G-Sync (Clue is in the title)
Every other screencap program > bloatwareplay
>>Nvidia SLI scales better and works smoother.
Not a chance, and "works smoother" doesn't mean a fucking thing.
>>Nvidia has bigger budget, bigger than entire of AMD.
This is not an argument point. Apple has more money than microshills, doesn't mean they make better products.
>>54477041
>I'm running 2 7950's from the year of 2012. Both of them are capable of A-Sync on DX12 and Vulkan. It's 2016 and not one GTX1080 card can do this.
but they can get 70% more framerates regardless, with single card.
380x is just 7970 rebrand.
>>54477146
A good man you are.
>>54474826
actually
nvidia typically doesn't run cooler, at least not from my autistic anecdotal evidence. but if you check benchmarks and compare temperatures the 390 runs cooler than the 970 in most cases. same thing with the fury/fury x vs 980/980ti
amd's drivers are just the same
kek industry support, just no
who cares about mfgr bias titles, that's not what the consumer wants anyway you idiot
vce/opencl/freesync/raptr (gfexperience is just the same kind of bloatware), physx is not a positive and you know this
nvidia sli LITERALLY scales worse than amd crossfire ever since the 290/290x launched and supported XDMA
if nvidia has the bigger budget why have they failed to snuff amd out?
i have a 980ti classy, btw. but you're entirely wrong
>>54477329
Open sour.. What? Nobody gives a fuck.
Gsync is better than freesync it doesn't crap itself if framerate dips.
>This is not an argument point. Apple has more money than microshills, doesn't mean they make better products.
Nvidia can make quickly better gpu than AMD, if AMD puts something decent. Not just quicker but also cheaper.
Gosh why can't AMD go bankrupt already? All they have done is put shit out and broken promises.
You amdfaggots can scream of async and other irrelevant bullshit while I go silky smooth 3D
>>54477332
Yes they can get more frame rates as with any newer cards. My point is that even for old cards they are compatible with DX12 features that are now being made/released. An nvidia card from 2012 or 2016 does not take full advantage of DX12 or Vulkan but all the AMD rebrands can. Do you understand nvidias architecture is old? It's fucking OLD! it's years behind.
>>54477396
>Open sour.. What? Nobody gives a fuck.
>/g/ - Technology
>stallman as board cover pic
>install gen2
MODS, this payed shilling is getting embarrassing, pls remove kebab
>>54477396
>open source
>nobody gives a fuck
Where do you think you are?
>>54477435
its pre 2011 tech really
AMD has been full DX12 and Hardware async since the 7970 and 7990
>>54477436
Stallman thing started as a joke but idiots (newfags) ate the shit up. Freefags are fighting a war they can not ever win.
>>54477435
It's so old it makes AMD look like a joke in performance charts. Dx12 will not be relevant this year and not next year either, by the time it is,Nvidia already has got market in pockets.
>>54477308
lol amdcucks btfo! comparing dual fury x gpu to single gtx 1080
>>54477594
LOL SHILL BTFO!
Again, its the exception to the rule. Chances are its either firmware not reporting it to be what it really is if its MGPU -- OR -- its a stupidly high OC'd phase change cooled unit.
Don't forget that its still AMD who holds the crown according to this benchmark list.
>>54477646
ashes of the singularity is irrelevant, it's not representative of a typical game, it's a really shitty amd-optimized game that's the exception to the rule that nvidia rekts amd's shit
>>54477594
>Comparing Pascal to Fiji
GTFO fanboy
>>54477678
Anon please, moving the goalposts doesn't help you at all.
>>54477308
Somehow, I think Matt is from the future or something. No way is this legit.
>>54477691
what else is there to compare it to? polaris? LOL
>>54477702
>Fiji used HBM, Maxwell did not
>300 series BTFO'ing nvidiots mid-range cards
>stronk 970 VRAM
Go use that last 0.5 GB of VRAM on your 970, smartass.
>>54473652
Why hasn't this been proven yet? How difficult is it? Just do a benchmark now, and do another one next year or when you notice a difference. What am I missing?
inb4 "what you're missing is that these are just memes"
>>54477747
>fiji used HBMeme
>pascal does not
>waahhhh it's not fair to compare pascal to babby fiji
>>54477780
Waiting for Polaris to kick your ass, in the meantime I will enjoy using my full-speed enabled VRAM on my AMD card while you will be stuck with 0.5 GB of stronk nvidicuck VRAM.
>>54474826
>SLI performs better
Objectively wrong in every benchmark you can find.
>Nvidia has better drivers
Nvidia drivers have a news report a month about how they are crashing constantly
Wew lad, this is a pretty shill post but it does seem like its normal work hours now for Nvidicuck offices
>>54477815
polaris is gonna be "mid range" (low end) that's what all the amd shills are saying at least
>>54477838
>what is latency
>what is microstuttering
you should know by now that frame rate is not a good measurement especially for multi gpu, quality > quantity
>>54477852
You read that on nvidiacucks.com?
>>54477308
You guys are just noticing this?
>>54477869
no i read it on 4chan people are saying it's gonna be like gtx 970 but cheaper (which is funny because the market is already saturated with gtx 970), certainly not a gtx 1080 competitor
>>54473652
>buttmad an old product is not as powerful than a newer product
Cool story
>>54477838
>using multi gpus for gaming
>>54477870
people have been saying since its "release" that ashes is a shitty game to use as benchmark
>>54477883
So the Polaris flagship with 14nm process compared to 16nm of Pascal it's going to perform less than the 970.
k.
>>54477918
we'll see in a month/few weeks
>>54477918
but flagship is vega no?
>>54477987
Vega is the successor of Polaris, and it will launch in 2017, if I remember correctly.
>>54478027
but only vega will have hbm2 right? that makes me think it's the flagship. like fury vs 390x
>>54473639
High end graphics cards are a dying breed.
For all the children screaming AMD vs Nvidia at each other you all have the wrong picture. AMD are trying to compete with Intel, not Nvidia.
AMD APUs in all current gen consoles, most likely AMD APUs in all next gen consoles. This makes up well over 50% of game sales for companies like Ubisoft, EA, activision. AMD have positioned themselves so that game developers are making games on their hardware, and porting to PC.
Their manufacturing process is cheaper with higher yields than Nvidia, who can't justify the smaller profit margins in console GPUs, and pretty soon, AMD will move their production into multiple under-powered gpus on the same chip to fall in line with dx12, vulkan and better multi gpu support that does away with inefficient alternate frame rendering.
Once developers start making games on this kind of hardware, and it gets ported to PC, Nvidia cards will be broken on these game. Nvidia will be relegated exclusively to expensive, high end cards, which have a very small market, and AMD will have the money behind it to get back into making CPUs, which is where all the real money is.
For anyone claiming it's bullshit, it's clear AMD have changed their target markets and are no longer interested in competing with Nvidia. They won't need to once their insidious master plan comes to fruition.
>>54477286
>cucked internally
>>54478061
As its rumoured, Vega will be a successor to the 400 series GPUs (that's Polaris). No one can be sure for now, I suppose.
>>54478063
this.
Why go head to head with nvidia when you can try to take over the ecosystem.
>>54478106
see pic from AMD conference
>>54473639
>buying a 256bit overclocked maxwell rehash meme
>>54478141
rebrand?
>>54478063
not everyone is a poorfag, consoles can't even do 1080p, sometimes not even 720p at fucking 30 fps, delusional idiot
>>54478141
>>54478148
This.
>buying a die shrink with gimped bus, no full dx12 compat, 10 year old GDDR5 and which can't even top 10% of the current performance
ground breaking.
>>54478063
>AMDrone excuses
>but but they have other focus
>but they are trying to this
>but but they have smaller budget
Nvidia gives them a bit of playroom they are not able to pull off even with 14nm and HBM
Intel will choke them to death
>>54478156
You're making my point for me mate, 75% of the video game market is sold to people with machines that can't consistently hit 30fps at 1080p on some games... Companies like sony and microsoft want these GPUs because they are cheap as shit and the masses don't care. The margin for profit might be small for AMD, but once game development is tailored exclusively for their hardware (Which makes up the 'poorfag' 75% of games sales and machines) how do you think that will translate to how these games will run on pc?
>>54478141
>pascal
>rebrash meme
kill yourself
I see the mods aren't doing their job.
Fuck off back to /v/ faggots.
Unless you use Quadro/FirePro GPUs, you can go fuck off to the gaymer containment board with your gaymer Razer shit and gaymer Razer tier GPUs.
>>54478205
Can you cunts even read? I'm saying it's a bad thing, as AMD are attempting to monopolise the game development process. Gameworks is going to look like fucking childsplay compared to what AMD wants to do. The monopoly will go the other way, and any monopoly is bad for the consumer.
>>54478238
>Gameworks is going to look like fucking childsplay compared to what AMD wants to do
one AMDrones dream
hahahahahaha
Gameworks is like they holy grail in the future you autistic paki shitstain
All the improvements and open source they have presented
Delicious tears
>>54478215
amd has had their apus in consoles for quite a while and nvidia is still dominating the high end discrete gpu market segment
>>54476416
Maybe because the 680 was besting 7970s and the 7970Ghz was barely keeping pace with it?
Maybe because the 780 was handily beating them all, aside from the 290x?
Can you guys do this on /v/?
>>54478300
can you fuck off to /sp/ ?
this is amd only board
>>54477699
>>54477323
The top four Fury cards are running on LN2 overclocking. It's from a competition sponsored by AMD back when in January
>AMD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lTGk0R12gs
>>54478300
Can you go back to /a/?
>>54478263
Fuck people like this actually exist.
>>54478263
Arguing on the internet is pretty fun right? :)
Nvidia's advertising, marketing and brand position puts AMD in the fucking ground every time. They also have a much better relationship with big tech reviewers. Coupled with some uninspiring refresh releases from AMD I can see why people get so frothed up over Nvidia.
But look at the silicone. AMD is already trying to incorporate 2 weak gpus in one piece of silicone that is recognised as a single gpu. It's cheap, and it's the way hardware will go.
As for gameworks, fallout 4, a GAMEWORKS GAME following the latest patches has seen a pretty substantial decrease in the performance of Kepler cards... Gameworks is basically Nvidia's version of planned obsolescence.. No better than apple kek ;)
Maybe not for the high end enthusiasts that make up 1% of the market, but for major game consoles and entry to mid level cards. I think it'll be pretty bitter for any large, powerful single gpu owner, AMD of Nvidia, when their cards are getting smoked by weak multi gpu set ups because of the way the games are being developed.
>>54478360
To be fair, the performance goes to shit only if you enable gameworks related effects. If you stay away and disable all gameborks effects, the game runs very well on my titan.
>>54478263
stop it anon, not even nvidiots like gimpworks
>>54478360
gameworks adds legitimate features and you can turn it off, you can't expect games to look the same forever, technological progress is good in my book
>>54473652
>le keppler cripple meme
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvCsT_dk-1E
>>54478385
That's true, and the same can be said of Witcher 3 and disabling tessellation (which admittedly shits on AMD cards way more than it does on nvidia cards), but surely a company like Nvidia can develop shit like gameworks and actually create a performance increase for their cards while making the game look better.
AMDrones
on suicide watch as ever before
>>54478420
As an 'AMDrone' I think the 1080 looks pretty amazing. And it will be the fastest single gpu on the market for a good while (radeon pro duo clearly does not count) I don't like the reference card dodginess though and i think the 1070, which is much more within the budget of most people, will be bottlenecked by it's memory bandwidth before long...
>>54478414
Only for the current generation of cards. It makes sense for them to turn performance to shit for old gen cards.
Morons like this >>54478263
will see that their older card cant run these new placebo effects and drop mad cash to upgrade.
Vega cant come soon enough. hawaii ages do well compared to kepler.
>>54478413
>tech yes city
>le clickbait yubtub reviewer
>>54478420
>gtx 970 consuming 150W of power
Your shitty edit isn't even fucking funny. Get the FUCK out of here goddamn retarded shill cunt.
>>54477308
>295X still at the top after half a decade
Glorious.
>DX11 ASICs
ain't dis sum shit
>>54478468
>gtx 970 doesn't consume 150w of power
Niggers everywhere
>>54478460
I'm not advocating for a halt to progress for the sake of keeping old Gpus relevant. I guess it comes down to how much each company pressures developers to support one brand over another when developing graphics engine improvements and stuff.
Haha all the people selling their 980tis to buy 1080s, such a waste of money, and an already amazing card.
I'm pretty stoked for vega, it will probably be the last truly powerful, enthusiast grade cards that AMD make.
>>54478468
HE DIDENT EDIT IT...IT'S REALLY AND NVIDIA EDIT AND THEY FALL FOR IT YEARS AFTER YEARS
This thread is like one big, happy family :)
>>54478420
this is so true
Had AMD card never again, literally power bill emulator and crossfire only possible with 1500w PSU
never again
Nvidia wins again, it hurts tbqh
>>54473639
>is
>you are
>body
>ready
>?
original postaroo
> MFW Polaris is bottom of the charts
http://videocardz.com/59725/nvidia-gtx-1080-polaris-10-11-directx12-benchmarks
>>54473639
Is you are body ready? Wtf
>>54478543
it is very underclocked, speculated at 800mhz
>>54478568
Any proof to back up your claims?
>>54478394
Too true, big performance decreases for both brands..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esm8YzFBPOk
>>54478507
Neither do I but why does AMD try to optimize things for older GPUs while nvidia entirely forgets about the last generation once the new stuff rolls out?
Seems intentional.
>>54478543
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AMDKEKS on 24-7-366 suicide watch
POLARIS WILL SAVE USSS LLOOOLL
>>54478590
Admittedly a lot of that is just human pork dumpling rage, but I understand the sentiment
>>54478568
>underclocked
kek, AMD cards shit the bed at 900MHz
that seems like stock clocks to me
>>54476361
Listen kid. If you don't want to be seen as a complete faggot..try using the word meme in the correct way.
What the fuck is a meme graphics card? Tell me what card you use? No card? onboard chip because all you need it txt editor because you are a 'serious' pc user? Is that it? Are you really unable to see how fucking stupid your question makes you sound?
>>54478583
there is proof somewhere, I don't have time to find it right now
maybe somebody else can link it
>>54478590
is this dude as fat as you are ?
might wanna try /fit/
>>54476365
You sound like a very informed 13yr old. Just the kind of fella I like to take advice from.
>>54478591
I guess that comes down to money and fanbases. AMD can't afford the massive R&D costs associated with developing new architecture (which I think is in the billions) so they squeeze as much life as they can out of cards like the r9 390s and r7 370 (I have one of these somewhere, refresh of a refresh of a refresh and it still overclocks decently haha, insane)
Nvidia on the other hand have cash to burn in the gpu market and a devoted (read mindless :P) fanbase who are prepared to pay for the best of the best every single year.
>>54478543
>>54478594
Polaris is mid range low power card. This has been said over and over. Fury is the flagship card for now until Vega.
>>54478140
>>54478614
Having pendulous man-titties helps me smuggle new pc hardware out of unsuspecting pc shops, no one ever looks under there.
>>54473838
Six hunna dollas ain't SHIT to chaaad waadden
>>54478468
mad cus Nvidia won ROFL
>>54478187
>>54478187
actually 1080 uses ggr5x but it's the slowest gddr5x since it's not even suppose to be on market yet
Fuck off back to /v/ faggots, and take your gaymer toy GPUs back with you.
>>54478156
come now, halo 5 on xbone can do 60fps at 720p with god awful textures and no aa :3
>>54478543
LOLOLOLOLO
>>54477918
>>54478141
>Trusting a slide which doesn't even have a base unit to judge against
>>54478795
>relative gaming performance
it's fucking easy as shit middle school tier math
>>54478795
this is a edited nvidia slide to help cut through the marketing bullshits
>>54478808
The 960 isn't at 0. So what card is?
What card are they basing all of this from?
The 950?
>>54478811
Why would Nvidia want to cut through their own bullshit?
>>54478834
miss the part where I said "edited"
Finally AMD bankrupt + finished
Can only go wrong with a trap as CEO
>>54478871
Well before Rory Read left AMD for a job at Dell he was doing pretty well. Started all the semi-custom APU shit in consoles and basically saved the company.
>>54478871
is it a confirmed trap or just a post menopausal woman
but either way jen-hsun is a fucking good ceo
Nvidia doesn't gimp old cards, they just don't do a single bit of optimization for them after a certain point.
It's because they know they can sell new shit to morons with too much disposable income. I mean look at people selling their 980 Tis to get a 1080. These are idiots, and then keep Nvidia flush with cash.
>>54478915
Ultimately a very small and fragile market, not unlike their brains.
>>54478915
>>54478927
those sure are some sour grapes
>>54478915
>Nvidia doesn't gimp old cards
How do you explain drops in FPS in games over time? The games are not radically changing.
Nvidicucks are incredible
>>54478938
proof or gtfo
and even if you can prove a 1-2 fps drop it's fucking nothing, you don't know if the driver for example fixed some shader compiler bug or the same change improved performance on other gpus and it just happened to be worse for that particular gpu
>>54478938
>>54478954
and if you're talking about more recent games you're truly an idiot, games get optimized by developers for newer hardware and they use new features and more advanced rendering techniques, just that the improvements aren't always readily visible to a lay person, you start to get diminishing returns where it for example (numbers pulled out of my ass) could take 40% more processing power to get a 1% perceived better image
>>54478954
Google, its widely cited you stupid cuck
>>54478973
>source: google
fuck off kid
>>54478667
fuck sake i am going to have to get a nvidia card again fuck sake amd fuck fuck fuck
>>54478985
amd is a joke, intel cpu + nvidia gpu will be the way to go for at least the next decade or so
>>54478915
hahahaha
holy shit this kid is so butt blasted
you can't even sell your old AMD card you faggot
>>54478982
>i have to do research myself
fucking cancerous low IQ undergrad found
enjoy being a nobody
>>54479010
kill yourself idiot
>>54479010
>implying you aren't a nobody
>>54478954
http://gamegpu.com/rpg/rollevye/fallout-4-test-gpu.html
It's written in the most disgusting language known to human kind, but compare the benchmarks of Fallout 4 post patch to the day 1 benchmarks. Very clear gimping of 700 series nvidia cards and to a lesser extent 900 series. Small boost for some AMD cards though ;)
Is this the renowned thread of retarded gaymer idiots talking about GPUs they don't know shit about, comparing GPUs whose component makeup and functions they don't know shit about, while talking about gaymer video gaymes whose software and working they don't know shit about,
while posting outdated deprecated GPU framerate comparisons that become outdated the moment a driver update is released or a gayme is patched, because they don't know shit about anything?
These threads about toy GPUs sure feel like the highest level of tech literacy that /g/ can attain.
If only it was posted on /v/ instead of /g/. But alas...
>>54478994
Why the FUCK would they put out the fury x and gimp it to 4gb?
Why not just do a 8gb version with the 14nm die shrink?
Fucking pants on head retarded.
when the hell can we preorder these? I have a shitty card that I need to replace.
>>54479032
>implying the rest of /g/ knows what they're talking about
kek you're delusional
>>54477323
Nvidia is cheating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2b6Nncu6zY
some effect went """"missing""""
>>54479030
none of those benchmarks show any gimping
>>54479032
Clearly an expert in all things tech
>>54479032
go fuck yourself
>>54479034
HBM is a meme, like when you buy RAM for your computer you don't need the fastest RAM because it hardly makes any difference whatsoever, it's not worth the added cost at least not for now
>>54479068
>disabled alpha effects and tonnes of other stuff
fuck sake cant amd just come up with a non shit card?
WHY isnt the Fury in 8gb config?
If i get the 4gb version i am dooming myself to 1080p with low res textures
>>54479032
posted by expert. *tips fedora*
Look at him and laugh.
>>54479055
Rest assured anon gay-kun, i expect that the autistic programing and webdevelopment thread anonfaggots at least know that various computational units on GPUs and that evaluating performance and differences is more complicated than just GPU memory and clock rate; precisely because they are autists who would care to research the way GPUs work to the retarded detail,
and certainly know how hardware and software operates together when it comes to programing faggot anons.
But these GPU threads have none of those anons, and all of /v/ anons.
Which makes these toy GPU threads more cancerous that dumping furry and MLP porn on /g/.
>>54479068
ahhahahhahaahhaahah
fucking embarassing
>>54479094
oh look, an idiot
>>54479135
if it's so good why doesn't AMD make an 8 GB card with HBM to BTFO the gtx 1080.. lol
>>54479104
>WHY isnt the Fury in 8gb config?
because the FURY uses 4GB HBM and the 1080 uses GDDR. look up HBM vs GDDR
>>54479076
My bad forgot the comparison benchmarks
http://gamegpu.com/rpg/rollevye/fallout-4-test-gpu.html
http://gamegpu.com/rpg/rollevye/fallout-4-beta-patch-1-3-test-gpu.html
gtx 970 down 4 frames, 780ti down over 10 frames, r9 nano up 10 frames..
>>54479152
Why is Nvidia going to move to HBM2 if its a meme?
>>54479158
Why didnt they just use GDDR5X and make a new fury this year?
I cant wait till vega/volta
If i only play at 1920x1080p is 4gb enough? Only game that uses over is Siege and GTA V atm
>>54479180
it will get cheaper and have better availability in the future
>>54479197
you mean it's cheaper than bribing devs to gimp games
I own 2 980 tis and they are going to be bested by x70 series for poor people? This isn't funny guys.
>>54479213
no, they are going to be bested by x60 for very poor people in couple driver updates
>>54479160
>proof over beta patches
>look it has less frames
Ever thought about blaming Bethesda for fucking up shit in their 1.3 patch ?
Can only be AMDniggers argument
>>54479187
Screen resolution has no effect on required video RAM, unless you would want to opt to use higher resolution textures with higher screen resolutions.
>>54479104
>>54479152
GDDR5 is on it's way out.
You must enjoy old technology
>>54479197
So GDDR5 will be even cheaperrrrrrrrr and you're saying HBM is meme
>>54479227
if it's Bethesda's fault, then why is the nano 10 frames up, while the 780 ti is 10 frames down?
>>54479229
Well the main game i play atm uses WAY over 4gb
RB6:Siege is a smidge over 4000mb with 4k textures
>>54479232
ive been stuck at 4GB since 2013 i am over it.
I can get a R9 Nano for $700 i am tempted to get it
>>54479227
Are you serious? The update brought more Nvidia gameworks shit....
>>54479160
it's just a beta patch for one game from one developer, looks like whatever the devs changed just happened to favor amd, maxwell also got "gimped" so it doesn't seem targeted toward kepler specifically
>>54479104
>1080p low textures
I do just fine with ultra textures. Though you are a retard, so I don't blame you for being wrong.
>>54479248
I dont know ? Someone from AMD went down on his knees and did his thing ?
>>54479258
>Nvidia gimps own shit to improve AMD
Wow just fucking kill yoruself asap
>>54479247
HBM is currently "overpriced" (you amd tards sure like that word), not worth it, that's why i call it a meme
gtx 1080 is doing just fine with gddr5x, blowing anything by amd the fuck out for the foreseeable future
>tfw 290x
>tfw nothing worth upgrading to until I have a new monitor
>by then we'll have Vega and maybe Volta
thank you G-d
>>54478824
They are basing it off a metric of 1, from an unknown source card.
If the graph was relative to zero literally anything they put up would have an infinite metric.
>>54479232
you left out g5x
>>54479287
Nvidia gimps their own shit to improve their line of new gpus about to drop for 700 bucks each and accidentally imrpoves AMD. Back your ass up onto Nvidia's dick any more and you might poke a hole in your intestines.
upgrading from a gtx 590 and 3 1080p monitors
should i go 1080 and a 4k monitor?
>>54479306
Sorry, that's what I'd meant to say. I just meant from a basic standpoint was all.
Without a card in question to configure the base point from, how can ANYONE call that slide legit?
>>54479232
He will continue enjoying old technology considering the only games that come to the PC are console ports born of old technology.
>>54479160
10 frames of difference won't make your gaymer fag skills any better in gayming.
>>54479032
Presto.
>>54478420
>gaming performance
Your gaming performance ain't ever going to increase anon.
But the gaming performance of GPUs may, or may not, depending on the software more than the hardware.
And the increase is small enough to call you a retarded autist for caring about such laughable framerate changes.
=======
Can you faggots fuck off with your kindergarten GPUs to /v/ now? That's where this shit belongs.
If Razer threads can be moved there, so can these shitty GeForce/Rx series threads about toy GPUs.
>>54479317
Your russian self entitled GPU's tester doesn't mean shit to me or proof anything of gimping cards.
You have to back up your shit first before you project on me little AMDrone.
>>54479342
Stop being so mad mate, it's unbecoming. I honestly wonder how many people on here can actually afford $700 card and how many are shitposting 12 year olds playing cod on a 750ti..
>>54479317
can you back this up?
>>54479287
>missing the point entirely
Fucking kek nvidiots are so precious
>>54479369
Keep wondering bitch. Until then be always 10 steps behind the leading GPU called Nvidia.
>>54479390
Are you a fucking extremist? Where is this coming from? Go join ISIS and play on your Nvidia card from a hole in the desert.
>>54479390
Hahaha how can dudes like this be real
>>54479390
jesus christ. im buying a 1070 but kill yourself
>>54479370
http://gamegpu.com/rpg/rollevye/fallout-4-test-gpu.html
http://gamegpu.com/rpg/rollevye/fallout-4-beta-patch-1-3-test-gpu.html
Check 1440p fps
>>54479408
>>54479428
>>54479430
on suicide watch after gettting told Twice in a row
Glorious fucking shitstain AMDrones
>>54479187
Why HBM and not GDDR5? Because AMD wants to be the first to pioneer that technology. AMD does not care about 5fps more. AMD does not care about Nvidia. See>> >>54478063 When Nvidia reaches HBM status AMD would have already increased their knowledge. Right now Nvidia does not have a multi threaded GPU as AMD does. This is a major feature in DX12 and Vulkan and the 1080 cant take advantage of. Buy which ever card you like. Just know what you're getting. See image.
>>54479451
Is that the new movie with Will Smith and Jared Leto?
>>54479453
Here here!
>>54479453
i guess ill be waiting for the 490x refresh
That will have 8gb and will last until 2018+ when the new cards come out
>>54479453
>2016
>not supporting async compute
>nvidia is best geepeeeuwww evarrrr
>>54479532
Which games support that again?
>>54479546
none
>>54479453
>>54479434
everytime i read these threads i always end up more confused about what card to buy next.
>>54479546
Shut up.
>>54479551
Wow look I have one too! Unbelievable!
>>54479619
>>54479551
>why,jpg
An aftermarket 980 Ti is faster and significantly cheaper. I can buy two for the price of a single Titan X these days.
>>54479650
Early adapter. *shrugs*
>>54479662
No you don't shrug $1300. Be mad.
>>54479709
1000, not 1300. Also in my opinion I have gotten my moneys worth.
And I am still getting my moneys worth.
>>54479546
Current DX12:
Ashes of the Singularity
Descent: Underground
Squad
Survarium
Caffeine
The Elder Scrolls Online
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Gears of War Ultimate Edition
Hitman
Quantum Break
Upcoming games or upcoming support of DX12
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
Star Citizen
Ark: Survival Evolved
W.N.C: Infantry
Total War: Warhammer
Forza Motorsport 6: Apex
Watch Dogs 2
ARMA 3
Sarce: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support
>>54473639
Non-reference coolers released on the 27th? I wonder if they'll actually be the msrp..
>>54479709
>$1300
You can buy two brand new 980 Tis for $1100 right now.
>>54479453
>finally added a feature that GCN has had for 5 years
Vega is going to wipe the floor with nvidia tears
>>54479742
Ok Arma 3 is good. When is it getting DX12 though? 2018?
>>54479742
1080 does support async comp whats your point ?
>>54479756
And?
>>54479551
thanks for letting us know you are dumb. Man, all the memes you fell for
>fell for the "you an overclock a non-k series skylake" meme
>fell for the titan meme
>fell for the desktop linux meme
>fell for the "unity isn't shit anymore" meme
>fell for the 16gb meme
like holy fucking shit this is comedy gold
>>54479775
>1080 does support async
see>>54479453
>>54479796
Are you telling me a multi threading GPU is needed for async comp ? are you fucking retarded ?
>>54479733
>in my opinion
but the value of the card is objective and you got jewed for it
just because you fail to perceive the inadequacy of the performance per dollar the titan gets doesn't mean it's not real
>>54479742
>ARMA3
>DX12
Good god, are you saying it'll FINALLY use more than one core? Will it FINALLY run well, even if you've got a top end PC?
Fuck me. About fucking time.
>>54479788
>fell for the "you an overclock a non-k series skylake" meme
No, I know you cannot over clock none-K series. I don't plan on overclocking it.
>fell for the titan meme
Oh god! I bought the best card on the market at the time! O: god help me!
> inb4 "in X months it was obsoleted"
that is how computers work...
>fell for the desktop linux meme
Implying I am not booted into Linux just for work
>fell for the "unity isn't shit anymore" meme
Nope, still shit, just better then what else is out there.
>fell for the 16gb meme
wha? Again, I also use this PC for work which deals a lot with VMs and docker.
>>54479764
>This does mean quite definitely that no DX12 implementation will be part of the platform update that is to accompany the Apex release.
Likely never.
>>54479764
Not sure if you're being serious but I have no idea.
It already been in testing since last year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VN1DOIl1bc
>>54479796
>http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-asynchronous-compute/
And if you care to google async and nvidia they have own press release too. So it is 100% supported.
>>54479818
Nah they gave up on DX12 for now. I'm notgoing to future proof anymore since 9 times out of 10 tech changes and you wasted your money.
>>54479844
They scrapped DX12 to focus on other things.
>https://dev.arma3.com/post/sitrep-00151
>>54479844
How do you make something that looks worse than stock crysis 9 years later?
>>54479788
>Don't talk to me or my Titan X ever again
>>54479830
>he fell for the "stock clock is good enough" meme to run an enthusiast class gaming rig
>he fell for the titan meme
>he fell for the "linux is a professional operating system" meme
>he fell for the "unity is better than what else is out there meme"
i'll give you the ram senpai
you are still pretty dumb
>>54479845
>So it is 100% supported
god, I can't wait to see benchmarks
I mean, I even HOPE that nvidia gets this right because if polaris 10 or fury comes even CLOSE to 1080 in vulkan and dx12 then it's over for nvidia
if they wipe the floor, dx12 included, then I will probably even buy a 1080
>>54479845
I'm a Nvudia fanboy but this feels like a shill article. How can it be better than hardware async?
>>54478503
970 consumes 250 easy and goes up to ~370 peak is my point. Fucking nvidia outright lies and bullshit
>>54479991
To be honest I don't give a fuck what you feel.
Nvidia won with this GPU. Seeing every benchmark getting destroyed. More release on 17th with SLI. Async compute. DX 12.1. 5K+ resolutions, 8192 mb on G5X. And AMD still not able to win with 14nm and HMB.
Well it is what it is.
>>54476365
>wise up
>implying buying amd the wiser option of the two
Nah
>>54479034
>implying 4gb hbm2 is not as good as 8gb of gddr5
>implying 8gb of gddr5 has anywhere near the bandwidth of hbm2 given the proper bus size
>>54480054
kek
typical nvidiot denial
>>54476501
Are you thick? £300 isn't an American low price. An American low price would be £263 if going by exchange rate based on $379. £40 tax on every card is about right. Even digital foundry are saying they predict the cards to be 300 in the UK. I'm buying 2 of them anyway.
Nvidia is fucking finished. No async compute. No DX12. Get on the AMD bandwagon while you can or forever be a faggot with pathetic graphics.
>>54479991
>>54479845
>>54479796
Maybe you should learn about Async. This is exactly why AMD is a head when it comes to this technology.
1080 not really aSync, just fucking get over it.
>>54480098
kek indeed. Might rethink your entire life again AMDrone.
>>54480134
>“New asynchronous compute advances improve efficiency and gaming performance.”
>i-i-its n-n-not A-async !! ! ! ! !!
go fuck yourself you literal nigger
>>54477396
>Gosh why can't AMD go bankrupt already? All they have done is put shit out and broken promises.
This.
>>54480134
we'll see how hard they'll try to gimp it in order to not fall behind
>>54480054
see
>>54480134
>>54477308
>>54477077
>>54476584
AMD hasn't even released polaris yet.
>>54478063
>adoredtv memes
Here we go again
>>54480175
You're literally retarded bro.
>>54476584
also have a look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2b6Nncu6zY#t=4m43s
>>54473639
Honestly I'll never buy a reference GPU, and I'll never buy a Nvidia brand GPU.
So I'm sitting here wondering how long till Asus/MSI starts releasing 1080s and how low 980s will drop in the mean time (750 user here)
>>54478360
>But look at the silicone. AMD is already trying to incorporate 2 weak gpus in one piece of silicone that is recognised as a single gpu. It's cheap, and it's the way hardware will go.
>adored tv
No. This is exactly where the industry will NOT go. Backwards compatibility and many other single gpu features will go to shit.
Stay deluded with those adoredtv memes though. A guy who gets 100% of his info from WCCFtech is so legit, right?
>>54480134
Nvida aSync has little stop lights lol
>>54479742
Are people trying to get me to buy amd to play like 12 games? Fuck that
>>54480308
No. Buy what ever the fuck you want asshole. We just having a discussion.
>>54480308
Which are mostly UWP games.
>>54480175
Denial. It's not in the hardware. Anything done through the software is a bandaid at best
>>54480323
Fucking this. Fuck uwp. I know amdrones will do anything to get a win over nvidia but defending uwp just because they get 5% extra performance is beyond stupid. How anyone from either side can defend this bullshit move by Ms to make all games windows 10 and uwp exclusive is beyond me. Dx11 and win 7 will do me just fine with my nvidia card. Fuck microsoft and fuck amd for getting people to upgrade to win 10 for >muh async only to get locked into uwp forever.
>>54480201
Prove him wrong then. Prove you know more than Adored. The guy has been on point about everything.
>>54473639
mfw gtx 560 is still 130$ in third world
>>54480340
[source and citation needed]
>>54480355
I wasn't defending him retard. This >>54480378 guy is.
>>54480340
>5 marvels of pascal
> 4) superb craftmanship - async compute
>not in hardware
Most def in denial. Whatever makes you nigger happy.
>>54479853
Fucking figures.
Hell, I don't even play ARMA any more, but having it transition from 11->12 and actually utilising the CPU properly would've been enough to make me give it another go and shit.
I mean, it ran okay, but it definitely wasn't anywhere near as good as it would've been if it was properly coded to use as much as possible.
I know DX11 didn't let games use 8 cores for example, but even two or three would've been fucking nicer than literally just one.
>>54480375
Thats nice but someone asked for a list of DX12 games. You may buy what ever you like sir.
>>54474051
yes lmao
>>54480378
>prove him wrong
Nigga anyone with a fucking brain cell knows he's wrong.
>le multi gpu consoles next year
All consoles for the next 5 years at least will have single gpu and this has been confirmed eg ps neo coming out in a year and a half. His "masterplan" can't even come into effect for 5 years lmao. You really think nvidia won't do their own r&d in that time to resolve the issue of node drops being harder. Whatever nvidia does in the pc space will become the norm, not what amd does. And the consoles will have 0 (zero) effect on the pc space. He doesn't even mention that porting between dx12 multi gpu and a single gpu dx12 desktop card is also as easy as porting it over to a multi gpu desktop card within dx12. Also since nvidia gets 90% of all pc sponsorships with Gameworks, there's another reason why the consoles will have no affect on the pc space. Devs will have to optimize for nvidia hardware whether they like it or not. Money talks.
Everthing he says is speculation.
>le amd might do this
>le amd have a patent from 10 years ago which they may or may not use
>le amd have a secret master plan and they've been purposely losing to nvidia in the last 5 years
Look at the hard facts. Amd will never ever gain this mass global domination like he's saying. They might make the market more competitive if they gain some market share but never in hell will it get to a point where amd will make nvidia leave the gpu market. You don't just lose 70% (shipped units) market share in a couple of years.
>>54480212
>Nvidia literally turned off some effects via their drivers to improve FPS
Just like they did with Battlefield 3, changing graphical fidelity and hoping that people didn't notice, all so they can achieve a higher number.
Pathetic. Utterly, utterly pathetic.
If the end consumer wants that FPS boost, it should be up to them - not the GPU dev.
>>54480584
lmao the nvidiot damage control is real
>>54480384
>pre-emption
>hardware
Pick one you cock slurping fuccboi.
>>54480766
[source and citations needed]
>>54480835
>I don't understand anything about graphics hardware.
I think we're done here.
>>54481015
Don't you know? AMD GPUs can predict the future.
>>54481015
[source and citations needed]
Still waiting for that sick answer
>>54473652
>wincucks not realizing its just OS-rot kicking in
dont forget to reinstall windows every few months to keep it running well
>>54481077
>>54481081
Kek. He obviously doesn't know anything.
>>54481077
I've seen the future familia, it's multiple chips on the same interposer
>>54481081
>give me proof Nvidia doesn't have hardware async
Pascal is a die shrink of Maxwell. They're not going to advertise their biggest weakness. That's all you need to know.
>>54481207
Pulling facts out of my ass is my favourite thing to do.
t. AMDrone
also you are wrong Pascal is the new architecture
>>54481207
>he still can't provide proof
>he can't even provide proof pascal is maxwell even though all the evidence suggests otherwise
>>54481280
Then why can't it do async?
>>54481312
Who says it can't do async. Please, feel free to link me actual tech reviews confirming it can't to async based on multiple titles tested, and not speculated rumours.
:^)
>>54481312
Here - > >>54480134
its fake sync
>>54481370
check benchmarks for yourself
nvidia's claimed to have supported async since maxwell, which we all know they haven't
it's the same now
>mfw at the end of the day nvidia will always be at the top of the charts, and literally nothing amd retards can possibly say will ever change that
The way it's meant to be played.
>>54481401
What benchmarks? The NDA doesn't lift till the 17th.
>>54481401
>it's the same now
Who says it can't do async. Please, feel free to link me actual tech reviews confirming it can't do async based on multiple titles tested, and not speculated rumours.
:^)
>>54481427
wait for the benchmarks :^)
>>54481280
"Pascal is the new architecture"
If you make a new architecture then why didn't they incorporate proper aSync?
Pascal is Maxwell mini me version.
>>54481389
But this doesn't dissaproves Nvidia not having it. It's the opposite. Read their press release. Are just a nigger or just pretending ?
>>54481454
It does actually, my guess is that they'll try to mitigate it with higher clock speeds
They don't support it architectually though
>>54481475
Holy shit this whole post.
You're baiting right?
Compute support =/= clock speeds
Go back to bed.
>>54481475
>It does actually,
How ?
>>54481475
Literally nigger.
>>54481454
This link(Offical Nvidia Link) is to Pascals white papers:
https://images.nvidia.com/content/pdf/tesla/whitepaper/pascal-architecture-whitepaper.pdf
Go to page 30 "Compute Preemption"
Then go to >>54480134 for what Preemption is. Then fuck the fuck off!