>you believed in AMD
m-me too
>>54460051
what happened?
>>54460051
>sparse info on new AMD chips
>actually looking quite promising
>no real benchmarks of the competition yet
>only plenty of marketing
yeah seems like AMD is doomed
>>54460082
http://videocardz.com/59725/nvidia-gtx-1080-polaris-10-11-directx12-benchmarks
>>54460051
AMD is done. [*]
The future will be dark, sad and green.
>>54460051
>buy amd computer
>support communism and the russian way of life
>multiple graphics cards fry
>house almost burns down
been nvidea since
Remember when people believed in ATi?
>>54460099
>ashes of singularity
is an AMD sponsored game. Might as well post benchmarks from Witcher 3 with hairworks turned on.
>>54460105
>russian way of life
>not using your pc as heater in cold siberian nights
>>54460110
I do. RIP in pisseroni, sweet prince.
It seems like the ride finally ended. [*]
>>54460051
Indians will always win, amd's polaris will prove that. Fuck nvidia.
>nvidia will have the top performance card wih 1080
>AMD will have the best price/performance mid end cards
>vega will likely be better than 1080TI/titan P
unworried AMDfriend here. i feel for everyone who recently bought 980 TIs.
>>54460145
What does India have to do with AMD?
>>54460111
Game cherrypicking is okay when AMD does it
>>54460169
Raja koduri, also amd has large number of Indian employees.
>>54460158
>AMD will have the best price/performance
Im not so sure about this, given how the Nvidia price/performance is evolving.
Actually Im pretty sure that Nvidia will beat AMD either this or next generation when it comes to price/performance, so we all better be worried.
>>54460158
>i feel for everyone who recently bought 980 TIs.
sold mine for 600 yesterday, they are retards dont feel sorry for them
>>54460099
I thought polaris 11 was supposed to be the low end cards and 10 was the mid end.
>>54460099
that's too bad to be true. preproduction samples with low clock?
>>54460105
>multiple graphics cards fry
not when it's -20C outside
>>54460110
yea, and it was best time for pc hardware
all it has to do is beat the 980 and ill buy it
>>54460111
game runs like shit on polaris 10 though.
>>54460178
No it's not and no one thinks that...
>>54460186
Nobody cares about some irrelevant faggot who works at AMD. Both Nvidia's and AMD's CEOs are asian.
>>54460105
Im Slavic myself. This Greek guy at work was laughing at me saying my house will burn down if i buy r9 280X. Its been great so far no complaints. It was just better price for performance at that time im not like a fanboy or whatever
>>54460271
Lamo
> ceos are more relevant than chip designers
Kys
>>54460340
>Indian designing the chips
AMD is doomed.
When's GTX1060 & r9 480 coming out
>>54460423
He did for Apple, and they are anything but.
>>54460051
>fm2 socket meme
kek
>>54460478
Apple is almost dead.
>>54460078
Dunno, all their cards are killing nvidia right now, maybe OP is the retard?
>>54460501
>radeon killing nvidia
>ever
>>54460051
>shilling in an anime imageboard
>>54460511
Yeah pretty much. Or an Nvidia shill which is the same thing really.
>>54460527
butthurt
>>54460511
>>54460527
>>54460535
>countershills
>>54460546
>>54460547
butthurt
>>54460527
Wut?
>>54460051
I still believe in AMD, I'd rather trust poo in the loo GPU developers than Korean chinks.
>>54460549
why so mad bro?
>>54460051
I'm willing to compensate graphics performance for higher moral and open source drivers.
>>54460099
There's no proof that those benchmarks are legit at all. In fact, they can't even prove they have any of these new cards at all.
It's mostly a clickbait benchmark article for suckers like you.
>>54460511
>killing nvidia right now
you pulled that out of your ass or what?
>>54460136
Electricity is relatively expensive in Russia, better to use wood burning stove for heating in Siberia.
>AMD made the r9290x too good a card
>literally no reason to upgrade to a poolaris
AMD was shilling Polaris 10 for VR but unless it has similar new technology like Pascal's SMP it's going to loose to similarly priced NVIDIA cards by quite a large margin in VR.
>>54460497
The fm2 socket was mostly designed for APUs, not for their best CPUs. And it does a good job for APUs. AMD's best CPUs are still using AM3+.
fun fact: Tons of retarded benchmark websites mistaken FM2+ cpu as AMD's more powerful processor and use those to compare to Intel processors while totally ignoring the more powerful AM3+ cpu.
>>54460625
implying anything cpu related from amd is powerful
>>54460598
>370 better than the 750
>380 better than the 960
>390 better than the 970
>390X sweet spot between mid and high-end
Enjoy your gimping/shit dx12/driver housefires and slightly lighter wallet (assuming you're not a child)
>>54460625
Same low ipc crap either way famalam.
>>54460647
>400€ card sweet spot between mid and high-end
What the fuck?
>>54460621
>1080 at $600
>1070 at $500
Polaris has similar performance for about $400 if not less. AMD cards would also drop in price (current gen) slightly so much more incentive to go with AMD than current gen nvidia cards (which they outperform most of the time nowadays). However this doesn't matter much because of rampant nvidia shilling by deluded kids, bullying game developers to use their platform, professionally deceptive marketing (3.5, 56, underreporting wattage, founders edition, etc), cancerous fanboys, and reviewers literally treated to 5 start hotels, horse backriding, steak and custom omelettes and possibly a couple of hundred bucks and a wink.
>>54460647
This. AMD is cheap and great!!!
>>54460679
What's your problem exactly?
>>54460598
Not at all, at all price points the AMD cards are superior
>>54460699
Poorfag
Checked
>>54460679
How much is 980?
AMD are the ones who prvide the best experience to people who aren't autistic enough to blow over 1000$ on a PC
And soon it's getting better.
>Polaris is a VR-capable cards for 300$
300$ anon, you can get two of those for the price of one Nvidia.
You can get three of those for the price of a titan.
Just how much of an Nvidiot you have to be to see that 300$ GPUs that run VR and games on high will OWN the market entirely except for the tiny enthusiast niche.
And we still have radeon Pro DUO with 8gb HBM2 that is on even footing with TWO 980ti SLI
>>54460756
>falling for the 980 meme
>>54460621
Nvidia can't compete at the mid to low end because of manufacturing limitations. AMD said specifically that focus on the high end won't bring VR to the mainstream. This is part of why the PS4 and Xbox One are getting updates; the old ones weren't fast enough to keep pace with the Polaris cards that AMD intends to flood the market with. Remember that if AMD releases sub 200 dollar parts that can run current games at low power, those cards will sell like crazy. And thats not to mention laptop graphics, which I doubt Nvidia has any good plans for. You've got AMD pushing the pro duo to developers on one end, and cheap, powerful graphics on the other. Vulkan is offered as a robust Dev tool. I expect a LOT of VR titles will be AMD optimized. We're already seeing that trend start for even non-VR games
>>54460689
>Polaris has similar performance for about $400 if not less.
No benchmarks yet but that's highly unlikely since it's only a 200 mm^2 chip.
>>54460645
>>54460652
Low level api of dx12, mantle and vulkan is exactly what AMD needs so their processors can match Intels.
>>54460787
>AoS benchmarks.jpg
>>54460777
>Nvidia can't compete at the mid to low end because of manufacturing limitations.
How is that? Seeing how NVIDIA is first to market with new parts on smaller node and is able to build up to 600mm^2 part (GP100) on the new process it looks AMD is the one who is having manufacturing difficulties since their 200 mm^2 silicon is still AWOL.
>>54460804
Can't compete for his neetbux he meant.
>>54460652
AMD have actually made great strides with IPC even on their current line-up. It's just that nobody noticed or cared because they haven't released any new high end chips. Their most recent CPU, the Excavator-based Athlon X4 845, has some large IPC improvements, yet they're locked away in a worthless budget chip with 2MB L2 cache.
>>54460787
AMD CPUs actually perform better with NVIDIA cards under DX11 because NVIDIA drivers are properly multithreaded.
>>54460598
AMD cards age like win. Nvidia's case is more akin to eggs, or milk. However this won't be the case for either anymore since DX12 grants much lower-level control over hardware so drivers and such are more distanced from the manufacturer, hence things like shit drivers will be less of a thing. Fact of the matter is newer more demanding games run better on AMD because the hardware is beefier than nvidia but limited in the earlier phases due to some driver limitations unlike nvidia cards. Not only that but Polaris and newer generations have a new geometry engine/dedicated tesselation/vertex assembler which has the purpose of promptly dealing with unneeded nvidia tesselation cancer. The 14nm vs 16nm will also be sufficiently significant in producing a relatively good performance/watt and lower temps imo.
>>54460645
My FX 8320 has roughly as much power as an i7 3770 in multi threaded enviornments. The raw integer compute on the FX 8 core is better than that of the i7s. Single core and power is where intel wins here.
>>54460099
>Polaris 10 slower and faster than Polaris 11 at the same time
Totally legit benchmarks you have there
>>54460775
>I'm poor
>>54460756
Possibly 1080SLI as well in pure performance (in addition to have HBM and async compute).
>>54460780
That works to their advantage in this case.
>>54460804
>nvidia 16nm amd finfet/14nm
>inb4 samsung/apple fiasco
Different things.
>>54460051
>>54460527
Why can't we all just get along!
>>54460647
again you are just making stuff up, go keep licking AMDs butthole.
Just looking at the r9 390 and the gtx970
the difference in performance is 5% in favor of AMD
Power consumption on the other hand...
Even a heavily OCed 980TI BARELY pulls as much as an R9 390 with the 980TI having >40% more performance.(not even talking about the R9 390X)
Just for your retarded brain:
R9 390 system pulls 400Watt
GTX970 pulls 250Watt
(ofcourse same hardware)
+GTX970 is easily overclockable by at least 15%, you can't OC shit with AMD.
There is literally no reason for a normal thinking person to buy AMD cards over nvidia at the moment.
>>54460647
>>54460935
GTX970 costs less btw
>>54460935
You forgot to compare price.
>>54460756
And if you buy 10 of those amd you will have one 1080 power. Amdcucks on suicide watch. They wont be missed.
>>54460935
>you can't OC shit with AMD
lol get the fuck off of /g you faggot
>>54460932
cant with retards like this
>>54460647
>>54460935
>a normal thinking person
>normal
>person
>spending over 1000$ on a whole PC unit
Nvidia aims for enthusiasts.
AMD is making direct all out assault on general market of everyone else.
It's not like everyone will go and get themselves a Titan + Devil's Canyon
Supa Dupa enthusiast devices are more of a marketing move than an actual marketshare.
>>54460959
Try OCing R9 390(5%at most)
Try OCing GTX970(easily 20%)
>>54460935
Performance consumption is a stupid argument when you're paying 300$+ for a card that won't cost you 5$ in electricity bills in an entire year.
>3.5GB
And to top it off, most 390 chips can OC to at least 1100 MHz clocks or close to that, lots of them can easily go to the 1150 mark or higher while being stable.
Besides, AMD already showed that 300 series will be able to deliver in DX12, while Nvidia is dubious at best, and you just know the driver support for the 900 series will be dead in the water when 1000 series comes out and DX12 games start rolling in.
You're the only retard in the house, anon
>>54460983
normal thinking person looks at power consumption
he immediatly closes all tabs related to AMDs genius r9 3** series after seeing it.
casuals just buy nvidia because they don't know better.
so pls
>>54460935
Do you live in africa?
You can overclock amd just fine retard. Are you referring to the fury x?
>There is literally no reason for a normal thinking person to buy AMD cards over nvidia at the moment.
Except higher cost and less performance. performance/watt is nvidia marketing buzzword which wasn't relevant until nvidia said it is.
>>54460948
You're comparing the 8gb 390 with the 3.5gb 970 tardo.
>>54461021
>normal thinking person looks at power consumption
Lol no.
Normal person looks for the best thing he can get for a certain budget.
Power consumption only matters if you are going to make profits from cryptocurrency mining.
>>54461005
>3.5GB meme
lets act like that thing had even enough performance to make use of that(not talking about SLI here)
Is 970 kill now?
What about 390?
>>54460868
I have a 980 Ti
The 980 was gimped by NVidia
>tfw not an AMDumbass
>>54461108
both are out of production. Only selling leftovers
>>54461133
Not say anything about buying.
Just curious which one is more future proof.
Might be usefull to learn about something for future upgrade.
>>54461108
Anyone who owned a 970 is dumb if they don't planned to upgrade to 1070.
So to answer that, yes 970 is kill.
>>54461108
Just get the 390x is the best card in the right range.
>>54460110
Yeah.. It was simpler time. Good times.
>>54461221
>spending 370€ for that oven
pls
>>54460099
Poorlaris btfo. Nvidia wins again.
>>54461053
>best thing he can get for a certain budget
that means nothing from AMDs R9 series
>>54461251
Better than a card that got crippled by its own company.
>graphics wars
>>54461268
>implying all companies don't do this with their tech
>>54461272
>onboard GPU
Do us all a favor and drink bleach
>>54461268
implying r9 390/gtx 970 has enough performance to make use of its 4GB vram.
>>54461272
kek/10
>>54461292
>>54461279
I owned a 290 mate.
Instead of got crippled like its competitor card from same generation, it got performance boost in each years.
Now I dare you to do the same with nvidia.
>>54460617
Iktfb
>Current year
>Nvidia isnt the housefire
>is using 9 year old gpu tech
>16nm
>No Async Compute (Hyper Threading for gpu cores)
>Gets its ass kicked in dx12
Meanwhile
>AMD
>Housefire
>14nm soon
>Full Async Compute and polaris probably even better
>Full DX12
>DX11 probably a little weak but ???
Shits gone upside down recently
>>54460935
>Power consumption on the other hand
Does not matter at all, power consumption matters when you have a finite energy source (e.g laptop).
The idea that you save money on a GPU with lower power consumption is idiotic, over 20 years you might make up the difference between a 400W and 300W device, assuming the 300W device is cheaper.
>>54460051
I'm using a 7970 and it's kicking ass on my 1440p screen. I have no complaints about AMD
>>54461356
I don't know if I want to upgrade to pascal or polaris at all seeing now Nvidia start to asslicking on Vulkan API and DX12.
It might be good for people who want to make a new rig, but for me I'll be waiting for another year until HMB2 came out and see how the new API and Async do with my current card.
also
>Buying newborn first gen GPU
>>54461374
Tahiti masterrace, nothing worthile got released after that except the 980TI
>>54461374
7970 is a boss card, my 7870 is still rockin it at 1080p
If everyone posting wojack or pepe was autobanned this site would be 90% free of retards.
>>54461496
it's not that bad here in my opinion
>>54461374
Why do idiots keep talking about last gen tech as if it's still relevant?
1080 destroys all gpu at high end and 1070 is the only wise choice at any other tier that matters.
>>54461286
jellly because you spent $999 to fight with kids online?
lol
intel graphics work just fine unless your some dumb kid that plays games
>>54461545
>Why people are allowed to talk about technology.
>>54460192
Nvidia is getting worse not better
>>54461556
>not using a GPU for video editing and photoshop
>>54460051
this shit occurs in cycles:
AMD is finished
nVidia you have failed
AMD Woodscrews
nVidia drivers
Stop this shit. It's like Yankees v Red Sox. Except Yankees are tons better and more like nVidia.
>>54460110
ATi 4870 the beast
GUYS GUYS. Maybe my way of thinking is retarded but:
>GTX TITAN Crazy (4k): 17.8 FPS average
>67DF:C4 (Polaris 10) Crazy (5k): 17.2 FPS average
The result is almost the same but Polaris 10 is tested at 5K! Does it mean that its faster than Titan?
>>54461873
I got my 4850 from /g/ recommendation years ago.
it was a great card, shame I pushed it too hard and it died 4.5 years later.
That beast can hold all game in high setting even after ll those years and only cost my $150 at the time.
Now I got 390 after years of using iGPU, i hope this one also can hold for another 4 years.
I'm not a fan of changing your GPU in each gen just to get minimum performance increased.
>>54461938
1080 is better than a titan so polaris is screwed
>>54461985
But 1080 is 600$ minimum while Polaris 10 supposed to be less than 350$!
>>54460208
11 is for laptops but not 100% sure
>>54461938
please delete this
>>54461938
>>54462013
Nvm i noticed that there is another guy who apparently has Polaris 10. So its:
>GTX TITAN Crazy (4k): 17.8 FPS average
>67DF:C4 (Polaris 10) Crazy (4k): 20.5 FPS average
Yeah its definitely faster than Titan in DX12 but! Can someone tell how much faster are AMD cards in Ashes benchmark usually compared to nVidia? How much %?
>>54461114
No it wasn't, shill.
>>54462109
delete this NOW
Post your fucking face when real benchmarks come out and Nvidia's superclocked FTW 2.1 GHz 16 nm housefires can't keep up with little Poolaris 10 in DX 12 games.
>GTX 1080 and 1070 announced
>AMD stocks plummet
Even the market knows AMD is DOOMED
>>54461710
>lying on an Indian Consumer Blog
>>54462177
>>54461938
SHUT IT DOWN HUANG
>>54460158
Anybody not waiting for the first die shrink in like five years is actually a fucking retard that deserves to lose their money.
>>54461938
>>54462109
Why aren't you deleting this? MOOOOODSSS
>>54461356
>AMD
>Full DX12
Nope, they are still missing a bunch of DX12 features like ROVs.
>>54460051
Why believe in a brand and not just get what is best for your needs in a gpu.
>>54461938
DELET THIS DO NOT LOOK AT NONNVIDIA APPROVED BENCHMARKS DIRECT TWELVES IS NOT THE FUTURE DO NOT TRUST AMD LIES
>>54461997
nvidiots #btfo
>>54460935
>Power consumption on the other hand...
1. does not matter
2. is actually lower than what AMD writes in the box (250W TDP cards use ~230W measured)
3. in case you keep saying it does matter: Polaris 10 does 390X performance at 100W, reportedly will cost less than $300.
>>54462475
Because half the people that post here are shills or retards trying to justify their purchase.
![1462808789414[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fK8tT3j.jpg "1462808789414[1].jpg")
>>54462177
>>54462211
>he thinks the news hasn't priced in
>>54460436
When they do
>>54460436
no spoonfeeding
>>54461938
DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE
I want them to succeed. I really don't want a fucking monopoly
>>54460804
Nvidias architectures going forward are going to be mostly high end. We saw this with Maxwell, a chip that, while being big and bad ass, is horrendous at scaling down (see GTX 970 fiasco). Nvidia was able to make Maxwell bigger and release the 980Ti, but the 960 isn't nearly as impressive as it's bigger brothers, and the 950 isn't even worth mentioning. This is happening again with Pascal. This isn't to say they're bad chips, but that Nvidia is targeting a different segment of the market.
>>54460099
All these manchildren going berserk on fake shit
>;-;
Don't even need DX12 for AMD cards to outperform their equivalent Nvidia card.
>>54462862
Please.... you have to delete this post... I could lose my job... my three wives and 8 children are depending on it... please...
>>54460099
>1080 getting literally double frame rates over Polaris 10 in DX 11
I mean fuck, that better not be true
>>54462916
I could but frankly I don't care. Ask Huang for a pay rise.
>>54460051
>he believed in AMD
>>54462862
>>54462949
Please delete this
>>54463525
I would, but on the other hand I like to see the rebuttels (which mostly consist of skyrim benchmarks).
>>54461938
Those results are false, please delete the post.
>>54460935
>>54461938
>>54462109
That's not a Titan X though, it's an original Titan, which offers around the same performance as a 970. So that would actually make Polaris 10 exactly what people were saying it is, i.e. around 390 performance (but using a lot less power). That's fine and dandy, but it's not competing with even AMD's current high end, let alone Nvidia's new one.
>>54463751
>typical gaming
>261w
Sounds about right for an overclocked hawaii card.
>>54463578
Wrong pic
>>54463839
The hardocp bench isn't a release test - it was after the 3rd patch or so (and a driver from AMD).
>>54463813
>261 vs 156
i know which one i'd buy
>>54463862
>it was after the 3rd patch or so
patch 1.0.610.1 was the day one patch. it was the first patch of the game. all benchmark tests used that first patch.
Who here getting the R9 Rage Xtreme when vega comes out
>>54464024
My 1200mhz 290x needs a bit more juice to drive 4k, so vega is it.
>>54460423
>Indian designing the chips
And you think you could do any better?
>>54460932
Why does AMD have a russian hat?
>>54463578
it has dx12 now, how does it measure?
>>54464645
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/03/28/rise_tomb_raider_dx11_vs_dx12_review
No hard numbers unfortunately.
>>54464736
DX12 is a fucking meme
>>54464927
>shitty quick port of a DX11 game to DX12
>whole API written off
wew
>>54464947
Even then the cpu scaling numbers are far, far more interesting. Shame hardocp only tested ashes for cpu.
I thought no one here played "gaymes"
>>54465051
/g/ can't afford a quadro or firepro card, nor does /g/ have the technology understand of graphics cards and maxlel sucks balls at double precision so thus it doesn't count either.
That pretty much only leaves gaymes as the reason to discuss gpus on /g/.
>>54461265
>that means nothing from Nvidia
FTFY
