If Windows 10 is supposedly spyware/malware/adware/botnet that stores and spies on everything you do, then why do all the government agencies and fortune 500 companies recommend their employees use it? Because the fact of the matter is that it's the most secure version of windows ever created. No more pass-the-hash, much more difficult to exploit, no more unpatched systems without any real malware protection. Most of you paranoid idiots don't even know what half those things are, but the point stands that Windows 10 is very secure and infinitesimally different from a real 'botnet malware' as you tinfoil hatters call it.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/us-government-wants-its-employees-to-install-windows-10-on-home-pcs-503029.shtml
http://iasecontent.disa.mil/stigs/pdf/U_DoD_CIO_Memo_Migration_to_Windows_10_Secure_Host_Baseline.pdf
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/03/windows-defender-advanced-threat-protection-uses-cloud-power-to-figure-out-youve-been-pwned/
>>54457681
Install Gentoo
>>54457681
Yeah I agree with you. Ever since I move my company to free Windows 10 upgrade, I have way less complaints about malware. The new Windows Defender and SmartScreen Filter really is very effective.
>>54457681
I am loving the new Windows 10 so far. The free Windows 10 Upgrade is expiring soon you people should take it while you can. It won't be fun using unpatched Windows 7 or 8 in 2017 especially in this age of bad malwares like ransomware.
>>54457720
>>54457745
Sarcasm?
>>54457681
Windows 10 IS more secure, but apparently this board is full of idiots who equate minimal telemetry data == microsoft employees looking at their personal info
Yeah OP I love this system. As a non-microsoft employee I use it on my home to enjoy my collection of music and movies, use cortana to get stuff done fast, I cannot understand the people who say this system is spyware because do you actually think they would not say so if they did that? It would be illegal for them. And even if they did, what would be the problem? The government isn't going to look into your personal files. They just do it to stop terrorism.
they can spy on me all they want.
>>54457765
Being sarcastic about what? Windows Defender is actually pretty decent about catching threats. It's not the same as it was in the Windows Vista era.
>>54457681
If people are worried what Windows 10 can see imagine their horror when they find out the logs all the major isp's keep
VPN's are basically useless
the whole 'windows 10 spies on you!!!' meme really needs to end. This is getting tiring and redundant. There is ZERO proof Microsoft gathers any data. The only thing they gather is minimal telemetry error reporting data that in no way can be traced back to anyone.
>>54457817
>>54457681
lol most people here have no security or networking knowledge, it's pretty funny to see them acting like idiots. Rather than getting themselves informed and educated, they post complete bullshit to scare people away from Windows because they have a grudge against Microsoft.
>>54457833
please drink bleach you nigger faggot.
Guys I contacted microsoft because I haven't gotten my 50 cents from posting here yet. Have any of you?
>>54457681
Nobody even knows what type of data they gather. The privacy policy seems worrying, but pretty much any company has a similar one nowadays just to cover their asses. Why would Microsoft want to waste their money and ruin their reputation to supposedly spy on people using Windows 10 in the first place? They don't need Windows 10 for that, they have bing, msn.com, and a whole bunch of other websites.
>>54457817
Man, the Prajeets are out in force tonight. Apparently if you just keep claiming it's all bullshit, eventually people will start to believe it.
>it's just harmless telemetry, nothing more!
>no, you can't see the source
>no, we're not going to stop collecting it, no matter how many buttons you press or how much you complain! we need that data! also, PRISM compliance. you know how it is guys, amirite?
>just trust us you dumb fucks!
lel
Stallman is a fat, useless retard but he was right about at least one thing: proprietary software is for suckers.
>>54457681
I don't understand all this paranoia about spying either. It literally takes 5 seconds to change the privacy settings and disable the already harmless minimal telemetry in Windows. PS, telemetry has been built in since Windows XP and it's a complete non-issue, but it's just now that most of the tech news websites found a new source of bullshit, controversial clickbait content.
>>54457874
Had to scroll all the way down to find a single fucking voice of reason. Not showing your source code is the end of the discussion when it comes to security. Period. It's a non starter.
i really couldn't care less if the government was spying on me.
i'm shit scared of corporations spying on me.
governments are inept and having bureaucracy.
whereas corps are evil fucks who would all love some way to alter peoples behavior.
>>54457681
> it's only the government spying on us so it's okay
Die in a fire
>>54457786
> minimal telemetry data == microsoft employees looking at their personal info
TRUE
>>54457929
Windows source code is actually available to governments and large companies. Hence how nt 4 and win2k source codes got leaked. But you ignorant paranoids obviously wouldn't know anything about that, you're too busy regurgitating baseless FUD from shitty uninformed tech news websites that cater to exactly your kind.
>>54457681
5 bing points have been deposited into your account
>>54457953
>it's all bullshit!
>just listen and believe!
Or just not be a Windows-using retard. That also works.
>>54457932
That's a ridiculous view to hold. Technology is making governments more and more efficient and they have access to all the data that corporations collect.
You should dislike corporate spying because it's government spying dressed up as products and services you want.
>>54457874
Free software software is largely worthless for any serious business work. What are people gonna do, use GIMP instead of photoshop? Use libreoffice instead of quickbooks? What about something like Active Directory? LOL please be realistic here.
>>54457990
Yeah, because here on 4chan's /g/ technology board we're all about serious business work. No NEETs or McJobbers here. Fortune 500 programmers and industry professionals all around.
>>54457979
wot? no.
look at what i wrote.
i don't care what governments know. they will bungle and bumble.
corps LOVE data about people and behavior. And with it they alter behavior in subtle ways to increase sales.
>>54457681
I like how almost nobody has actually discussed what you posted, and most people are just spouting racist Indian jokes.
>>54457811
>ISP logs somehow defeat VPNs
Mate all they can log is
Anon -> VPN
VPN -> Anon
>>54457990
So everyone in your organisation needs QuickBooks and Photoshop? Also LDAP isn't a thing?
That's like me complaining that nobody can even consider using Windows because it doesn't come with a bash shell.
>>54457990
>serious business work
>photoshop
3/10 made me reply
>>54458037
Windows 10 now actually has a Bash shell and full Ubuntu support. Don't know why anyone would even bother with buggy-ass linux at this point, considering windows 10 is a free upgrade, and most computers already come with a Windows you can upgrade from.
>>54458021
There isn't anything to discuss. It's the usual Rajeesh drivel. One part marketing bullshit, one part full-blown denial. Despite the fact that no one is buying into it, it still gets posted several times a day.
What would you like to discuss? The Windows stranglehold on the business world? Yeah, that's decades old news. The spying? Yeah, we know. We wish they'd stop, actually.
What else?
0/10 shitt bait full of shills. I am staying on Windows 7 and Ubuntu dual boot. I have blocked all telemetry and upgrade related updates from 2015 onwards.
>>54458092
It's one thing to be slightly worried about data gathering in Windows 10 considering all the clickbait FUD written about it, but I truely feel bad for you if you are delusional enough to solidly believe that a large multinational company like Microsoft is employing Indians to advertise Windows 10 on a website like 4chan. Also, isn't it like 4AM in India right now?
>>54458121
>a large multinational company like Microsoft is employing Indians
Is this nigga serious?
>>54458136
>to advertise Windows 10 on a website like 4chan
>>54457681
After I installed windows 10 my wife came back to me, my dog stoped shiting on the carpet and I lost 5 kg I definitly recommend it
>>54458150
>it's completely irrational to think that just because they hire indians in droves to do phone support and such, that they'd ever use them for marketing as well
Is this nigga serious?
>>54458158
Nobody wants to advertise here. moot almost went broke at one time when he couldn't find any ad providers.
>>54458121
> current year
> believing shills aren't real
Are you a time traveller from the past?
>>54458172
Why pay for it when you can do it for free? Anyone can post here.
>>54458184
Well someone still needs to be paid for their time to make those supposed posts. When you look at it from an outsider point of view, Microsoft paying Indians to advertise on 4chan is completely absurd.
>>54457811
Openvpn for torrenting is not useless if you use one in a country where the legislation doesn t force the compagnies to keep logs.
>>54458121
>Microsoft is employing Indians to advertise Windows 10
They don't need to. There are enough people that are scared of losing/invalidating their knowledge about Windows usage (i.e. where to click to do x, how to configure y, etc.), and those people will shill for free. Same reason why the metro ui was hated on so much.
>>54457681
I agree with you op. It's great to see someone actually make a rare intelligent, balanced, rational discussion for once.
>>54457745
This. You all need to upgrade as quick as you can. Quick. Do it. Now.
>>54457794
>They just do it to stop terrorism.
And fight evil, our lovely humble government sexy puppies, they.
>>54458061
but can it run xonotic
>>54457681
DESIGNATED
>>54457681
M$ shill at work...
W10 is botnet spyware shit
nothing will change that
>>54457681
B O T N E T - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >
O Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
T https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
N
E Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
T https://archive.is/OBGB1
|
| Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
| https://archive.is/tW6fu
|
| Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
| https://archive.is/2XIvX · https://archive.is/qLRZx
|
| Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
| location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
| even after related settings are turned off:
| https://archive.is/Zny36 · https://archive.is/sz1nt
| https://archive.is/g3QdQ · https://archive.is/ko469
|
| A Traffic Analysis of Windows 10:
|
| Keypoints: Windows 10 has a keylogger and uploads all your
| keystrokes every 5 minutes. Everything you type in Edge or
| Cortana is sent to Microsoft, along with any media files it
| finds. When webcam is enabled, 35MB of data goes to Microsoft.
| Even with Cortana disabled/uninstalled, Windows 10 sends all
| microphone audio to Microsoft, when the computer is idle.
| https://archive.is/QnTTA
| https://archive.is/eZKc9
|
| Windows 10 sends desktop screenshots straight to Microsoft:
| https://d2.maxfile.ro/rwspylwbwo.webm
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDeHqiydk4A [Embed] [Embed]
|
| Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
| https://archive.is/vhjwm
| https://archive.is/2jehd
|
| Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
| https://archive.is/MB0Yy
|
| > Over 82 billion photos viewed.
| > Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
| > 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
| > Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
| > Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
|
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>>54457681
Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
https://archive.is/OBGB1
Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
https://archive.is/tW6fu
Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
https://archive.is/2XIvX · https://archive.is/qLRZx
Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
even after related settings are turned off:
https://archive.is/Zny36 · https://archive.is/sz1nt
https://archive.is/g3QdQ · https://archive.is/ko469
Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
https://archive.is/vhjwm
https://archive.is/2jehd
Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
https://archive.is/MB0Yy
> Over 82 billion photos viewed.
> Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
> 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
> Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
> Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
>>54457681
I can confirm that W10 is much more secure than any linux distro out there.
>>54459144
>M$ secure...
every server is on Linux, even super computers...
>>54459144
I can confirm that W10 is not more secure than at least one linux distro.
By the way, I'm anon. If someone is wondering.
>>54459165
>M$ secure...
every server is on Linux, even super computers...
>>54459177
Ah, but if only you could read.
Windows 10 is a literal botnet, and I don't even mean in the retarded /g/ sense where they call everything a botnet.
>>54457681
Pajeet already posted this thread today Rajesh. We are deducting 15 rupees from your account.
>>54459187
I can confirm it's absolutely opposite. Seems that you are misinformed.
>>54459219
t. Pajeet Patel
>>54459187
how?
>>54459219
>>54459237
This is hidden within a menu within a menu within a menu. M$ is saving money by costing you money instead. They are literally using your PC to send out copies of the updates you download to other people on the internet without your knowledge (i.e. a literal botnet).
>>54457681
ah, the daily shilling thread
>>54459257
Is this a joke, or you're really this dumb?
>>54457720
Not sure if troll, shill or just stupid
>>54459257
>inb4 it's opt out so it's ok
>>54457794
>I love this system
>as a non Microsoft employee
Suuuuure
>>54457720
This. The amount of viruses nowadays is ridiculous. Most of the NEETs here have never actually managed any amount of computers. People should install Windows 10 for their own personal security. If you're using outdated software, you're part of the problem.
You've posted this thread like 50 times, pajeet. Fuck off. Sage this thread.
>>54457990
>Free oxygen is worthless
>free water is worthless
>free smiles are worthless
Etc, etc
>>54458852
SHITTING
>>54458061
beta.
It's still more buggy than normal ubuntu
You won't convince the pedophiles and criminals here. They have something to hide
>>54459663
free smiles are worthless.
>>54457681
>then why do all the government agencies and fortune 500 companies recommend their employees use it
The goverment is using free software for a reason. Stop lying.
>fortune 500 companies recommend their employees use it
Fortune 500 get pay for it.
>>54457929
Uh, you do realize that the rest of the thread is one samefag that is either an elaborate troll or truly a pahjeet employee shill of microsoft?
Sad thing is, these days, neither is totally out of the question. The former is expected, the fact that the latter option is not pure fantasy anymore bodes ill for the times we live in.
If stinky indian shills are paid literally to shitpost on this mongolian finger painting consortium by a massive corporate interest then wtf has the world come to?
>>54457681
Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
https://archive.is/OBGB1
Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
https://archive.is/tW6fu
Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
https://archive.is/2XIvX
https://archive.is/qLRZx
Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
even after related settings are turned off:
https://archive.is/thsGd
https://archive.is/sz1nt
https://archive.is/g3QdQ
https://archive.is/ko469
https://archive.is/l6pmO
https://archive.is/zK93U
Micrcrosoft automatically downloads Windows 10 on PCs running
Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 (between 3.5GB and 6GB), even if
users have not opted-in:
http://archive.is/CEvKh
Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
https://archive.is/vhjwm
https://archive.is/2jehd
https://archive.is/KQsBh
Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
https://archive.is/MB0Yy
> Over 82 billion photos viewed.
> Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
> 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
> Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
> Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
>>54457681
Dude don't show us news articles when you make such a claim show us your own research with tools and packet inspection - do it 3 times for 24 hours each and show us how the results definitely tell us that it doesn't spy us.
Otherwise you're just dumb shill.
Long before shills like you showed up like first week after windows 10 release this board was full with actual tests, people trying hard and in 80% of cases it was shown us clear proofs of how Microsoft is collecting data big brother style.
POO
O
O
>>54457990
Anyone that needs a computer to do work is a worthless nobody that has no skill other than pressing buttons and clicking. People need to do some REAL work.
>>54457873
You cant disable telemetry and their privacy / collecting data is pretty transparent now. They even state they gather basically everything
>>54458061
You're a dumbfuck. So is OP. At least give the govfucks a challenge and not buy their spyware OS.
>>54461255
If you're doing packet scanning, then you suck at it. Not only did an out of the box install of Win10 light up wireshark like a Christmas tree, but the ASA 5510 in my test lab went coo coo for coco puffs. Fucking base install calls home in four different countries....INCLUDING CHINA.
>>54457874
Photoshop is botnet because it's proprietary. You heard here, /g/.
>>54458095
>0/10 shitt bait full of shills. I am staying on Windows 7 and Ubuntu dual boot. I have blocked all telemetry and upgrade related updates from 2015 onwards.
V is that you? It's H. :P
>>54457805
>>54457811
>>54457817
>>54457873
>>54457720
>>54457745
>>54457786
>>54457794
>I agree OP!
>Is OP
>Is Faggot
Nice try. You write the same way every time. Nobody on /g/ talks like that.
Kill yourself
Fucking meme-tier shill OP
>pajeets ACTIVATE
Should I get this POS OS or not?!
>>54462298
It's pretty good
>>54457681
>why do all the government agencies and fortune 500 companies recommend their employees use it?
I'll take fascism for 200 Alex.
>new PC after ditching 2008 prebuilt
>win10 will install smoothly due to a SLI motherboard tailored for it
>if i want win7 without issues, I need to hook up the SSD to my old pc via a USB-SATA cable to funnel the necessary drivers through (otherwise I'm left without functioning usb ports and network access on the new PC)
is it worth me going through that shit to stay on WIndows 7, or should I bite the bullet, go to 10 and do whatever is feasible to limit all this intrusive shit?
>>54457681
REPORT EVERY PAJEET SHILL THREAD.
