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check this out >>54451197
>>54452753man locate
This is being spammed is logs.I have run a repair amd defrag on the xfs drive but it is still spamming this.Performance drops down to 1Mb/ read/write. What do?XFS: java(17859) possible memory allocation deadlock size 55856 in kmem_alloc (mode:0x2400240)
>picture of stallman with 3 mentally damaged "people"
Nice picture of 4 mentally damaged things.
>>54452983
Notice how they are falling in to stallmans gravity field?
>>54452823
All you need is find and grep.
Is Chakra a meme OS? How does one best ensure security (and less crucially, Freedom) when using the AUR like a good skiddie memer?
I know these are low-effort questions and calling me a faggot is better than I deserve. I ask nonetheless because of reasons you don't care about
Also,
>implying I said Freedom is less important than security
>>54453260
Chakra is shit.If you want arch get arch,not a shitty derivitive.
Read the pkgbuild and/or install files before you use them.
If you're using a helper,it should ask you before you install if you want to edit them.
Everytime I boot i3 my cursor keeps "waiting" for a whole minute.
How do I get rid of that?
>>54453954
>>Still perform mental gymnastics to justify it, "its all over now so we can just wipe their rap sheet clean, it doesn't matter that they breached our trust"
>Yes, we know that having Amazon adware isn't the outright worst thing you can do, but it still goes against the ideology/philosophy of free and open sauce software.
For one thing, I did not bring up how long ago it happened. At all. You outright put those words in my mouth.
My argument was that it wasn't spyware.
Amazon was not collecting information on your searches. Neither was Canonical.
The dash is where you search for applications by name. Your search queries in dash are not interesting information for anybody. If anything, this feature was "bloatware".
I've had this problem in web browsers the last few days whenever I scrolled looked like pic but I downgraded my kernel to lts and now it's fixed.
>>54452641
Why do people with bald spots not just shave the rest of the hair off instead of looking like a homosexual bozo the clown?
>>54454391
[citation needed]
>>54453129
All you need is find
Which arch do i want?
>>54454542
If you can't figure this out for yourself, just stick with ubuntu.
>>54454403
HACKED!
>>54454554
but i want to rice
I'm thinking of switching from Ubuntu to OpenSUSE. Are there any reasons not to do that? I mostly want to start working with linux in an enterprise setting.
Is there a way to have wine run things on something higher than xp service package 2?
>>54454600
Go CentOS.
>>54454597
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing
>>54454621
ooohh, so then whats the point of arch?
>>54454597
What does that have to do with the distro you install?
Still fighting with xorg to get it to display the right resolution.
xrandr is spitting back "failed to get size of gamma for output default" every time I try to do any commands with it.
I've tried doing sudo Xorg -configure, that will return a "number created screens does not match" error.
Any ideas?
Fresh install, Lubuntu 16.04.
>>54454609
I considered that. What's the advantage of using CentOS over Fedora? As I understand it, they're both Red Hat for desktop. But one is community maintained and the other is maintained by Red Hat.
>>54454634
Anime.
>>54454634
Arch is like restoring a classic car. It's a huge pain in the ass. It's a work of passion. If you want working with Linux to be your hobby, go Arch.
>>54454644
Have you tried creating a new user to force a new per-user config?
>>54454682
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/LInux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>54454701
Exact same everything.
Here's the output from trying to add a custom xrandr mode.
>>54452641
The 2 qts on the left are Niagara Falls for RMS.
>>54454682
>It's a huge pain in the ass.
If you've done it once, it's not that bad. Try installing Gentoo for that authentic "pain in the ass" feel.
>>54454798
I was giving that guy the quick and dirty. For some dude that just wants to rice the fuck out of his system, all Arch is is a pain in the ass. Also, he'd have to fix all his "cool" rice shit when an update inevitably goes wrong. I'm not trying to shit on Arch. It's definitely perfect for some people. But this guy seems like a casual.
>>54454887
I'm not defending Arch either. I'm just saying, if you're passionate, there's another level to attain.
Maybe someone can help me with this
When I try to install the new Runescape client I get this error
"Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
runescape-launcher : Depends: libglew1.10 (>= 1.10.0-3) but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
I'm really new to Linux so hopefully someone here can help me.
>>54455098
I also think that libglew has something to do with graphics doesn't it? If that's the case I'm using the generic intel hd gpu until I can get me a gpu.
>>54455098
Try running sudo apt-get install -f and try it again.
>>54455163
It gives me the same error. When I ran install -f though, it tells me '0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.'
>>54454607
run winecfg and change it to windows 7
protip: while in ttysetfont iso01-12x22
thank me later
How can I have the exactly same font in MATE Terminal in my xterm? Font is Monospace 12 but in the MATE Terminal preferences there is a check on "Use the system fixed width font".
>>54454391
Wut m8? They were receiving this informations right on their servers, and still you say it was not collected?
>>54454403
Bad graphic drivers.
>>54455729
Uh... yes. Information sent to a server is not always collected. For example, I once coded a CMS in my spare time, with a search engine. The search queries were passed from the form to the post data to the PHP engine to MySQL, then MySQL returned the results and no records were made anywhere of the actual query. Why? Because the point of my search engine was to return search results. Recording the queries was useless, it would take some of my limited disc space and resources, would require a separate table, a good couple extra lines of code, testing, and then what? I can sort people's search queries by ip. That's a fun fucking afternoon.
You guys don't think about this shit when you accuse a feature of being spyware. You don't realize that you're not the special snowflakes you think you are and that nobody but full time cybercriminals is interested in actively documenting you personally, studying you and making conclusions out of the data they collected. You are a drop in an ocean of data that's being processed by machines void of any judgement and the end game is showing you penis pill ads. Get over it already.
>>54454764
Last time you posted xrandr output it said there was actually two modes, maybe the command succeeds even though it complains? Have you tried setting the output to use the new mode?
>>54455098
run apt-cache policy libglew if the only file-like line and Version Table is "100 /var/lib/dpkg/status" then runescape depends on a version of the library that isn't packaged anymore :(
You can install it with no real worries though just grab the appropriate architecture libglew1.10 package from eg http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glew/ and then dpkg -i to install it
>>54455410
?
>>54452641
I installed Fedora(LXDE) on a laptop. Where do I see what hardware it has? I want to know my graphics card model, processor, ram, available... these things. I can't find a GUI for that on the LXDE version.
>>54452641
Who is that nice legged male individual on the right? This unholy creation? Is this manlet of a being homosex? Maybe just an alien?
>>54457047
manelet? Wtf are u even talking about
>>54457104
As in overall mass next to RMS...
hello /fug/
Just finished installing xubuntu 16.04 next to 14.04. I am surprised that nothing is on fire. The new AMDGPU driver works fine, and all my /home migrated painlessly.
/blog
>>54456906
lspci, lsusb and "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
or install https://github.com/smxi/inxi
>>54457247
>having two distributions installed at the same time
>having two identical distributions installed, just with different releases
Why?
>>54457361
finally migrating to the SSD mustard race
the old install will stay for a while in case the new one explodes
Why do so many people recommend having three different partitions for a Linux install? I keep reading that I should have a partition for my swapfile (useless when I have SSD and lots of RAM), a partition for root (what, just my programs? I don't get it), and a partition for home (all my files and shit). This just seems totally pointless. I want to just make one big root partition and deal with that directly. I'll be fine if I do this right?
>>54457618
Swap partitions aren't so useful now, but separate /home allows lots of flexibility. For example, if I suddenly became autistic and installed Arch, a /home partition from another distro can be mounted as-is. Or the root could be on a fast but small SSD and /home on a big HDD. Or /home could be copied to another machine and accessed over network. Some setups are weird like that.
How hard is to install rtorrent? Shit looks complicated.
>>54457618
>swap
like you said: pretty useless if you have lots of RAM. but then you can ask yourself: why waste RAM? especially if you use SSD so you shouldn't be able to catch OS during any I/O work
that's of course unless you plan to hibernate or actually manage to run out of RAM like i do
>root & home
this depends. separate /home is useful 4ex when you want to reinstall the OS. separate /home with all the files inside will be safe (tho modern distros usually detect /home and try to preserve it)
>>54457762
>>54457773
how about btrfs vs xfs vs ext4? does it really matter which I use for my one big partition?
>>54457840
for a regular desktop user, stick to ext4. less headaches
>you have assigned an encrypted filesystem to a partition with one of the following mount points: "/" "/usr" "/boot" "var". This is not possible. Change the mount point or use a nonloopbacked file system.
Hahaha what the fuck? My Mint installation is completely encrypted, yet Suse refuses to encrypt root? This is aimed at professionals? Damn, I wanted to try out YAST, but evidently this feature is missing and has been missing for years (https://lizards.opensuse.org/2009/03/18/encrypted-root-file-system-on-lvm/). What a joke.
>>54457769
what distro are you using?
>>54457769
It's literally a command away in your package manager. Installing different front-ends like a http one would be complicated.
Chances are you don't even need that or rtorrent and a different client could satisfy your demands (like qBittorrent with its easy web-interface). But you most likely want to appear like a hacker and think the CLI interface to rtorrent is the shit, despite only looking/using it for a few seconds to start or stop a torrent.
Hey I'm a returning Linus user. Have used Windows for the most part. Is there any distro which is hustle-free ( to transitio to) and doesn't seem like it was build by a bunch of pajeet's ?
>>54458349
What an original question.
Was anyone here successful in installing kwin and dolphin on xfce? I think that hybrid would be perfect for me but I dont know how to start installing kwin
>>54458493
What does Kwin do that Xfwm doesn't for you?
Just install the Xfce applications that you want in KDE. Which ones would that be? Just the taskbar?
>>54458525
actually the only good thing in xfce is whisker menu
>>54458349
You should sober up before installing linux, friend.
>>54454542
a u s
t r a
l i a
Is there any real difference between fedora and CentOs?
>>54458875
i've never heard of any big company using fedora on their servers
>>54458273
I'm trying to learn how to properly use a computer by forcing myself to use cli interfaces.
Will there ever be a user friendly distro /g/?
Maybe google will make one.
What's the difference between
>linux
>gnu
>gnu/linux
>unix
How can I use two different passwords on Ubuntu? I want to have a short 4-digit just for the login screen (I believe it's lightdm shipped with ubuntu gnome/unity, right?) and long one for executing commands with superuser privileges.
>>54459119
you can make sudo ask for the root password.
Usevisudoto editetc/sudoersand addDefaults rootpw
>>54459211
Thanks, m8.
>>54459092
>normie friendly distro
lol no
terminal command a day
keeps the normies away
>>54459003
Why do you insist on using rtorrent then?
How do I make ubuntu recognize this HDD?
I just want to access the music/movies in it.
>>54459390
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dynamic_Disks
>>54453662
bump
I'm on debian testing. I did an update last night and now I can't click with my touchpad by taping on it (Ican still scroll and move the cursor). Cinnamon just stopped working (lightdm tell me "failed to load cinnamon-session") and I can no longer use internet. I can still ping Google.com but get a lot of lost packages. I can't install anything on my computer since apt won't connect to the repos. What do ?
I tried to connect my laptop with an ethernet cable and disabling wlan0 but it don't work.
What's a good logger for Gentoo? I want to store my logs in /tmp or send them to a remote server.
>>54459550
syslog
>>54459570
syslog-ng?
>>54459581
sure
>>54459478
>>54453662
Took me 3 seconds to find why on the internet. All you accomplished in 10 hours was bumping your question.
>>54459589
Is that one the most efficient? Chad Warden just like the system that's the best. Also how do I write to it from a C program?
>>54459625
It's either syslog-ng or rsyslog, I don't know which is most efficient.
>Also how do I write to it from a C program?
see syslog(3)
Ok guys, i installed Ubuntu and Im stuck with this. Please help, what to do?
>>54459780
sudo rm -rf /home/username
>>54459813
Why would i do that?
>>54459887
Delete your home directory. This wount help you.
The post comes from a winbabby trying to be funny (new IP).
>>54459780
ctrl+alt+backspace
or
ctrl+alt+f1
>>54459780
Try CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Hopefully this isnt disabled.
>>54460171
How do you know it's a windows user?
>>54460235
You don't need sudo to delete you home.
Hey Folks,
I'm attempting to build a (mostly) hassle free home entertainment system for me and my wife using linux Mint 17.1. The reason for using Mint is I'm familiar with it/debian and wanted something that would be extra-hard for my wife to fuck up (She knows almost nothing about computers).
I've already set up Kodi, so all she has to do is click and have music/more at her finger tips. I've also taken the liberty of installing Retroarch and ScummVm for my own entertainment as well.
Is there a must-have, painless entertainment program that I should look into besides these two? Pardon me if I've somehow fucked up and offended the entirety of this thread. Seems like every time I ask a question here I get flammed.
>>54454600
SuSe is mostly used in Europe, RHEL is mostly used in the US.
Most knowledge on GNU/Linux ist transferable on almost all distros.
>>54454542
x86_64
>>54455820
Mass data analysis is a thing. Nobody needs to target you personally to make conclusions about you or manipulate you into buying things.
>>54460306
Mpv and youtube-dl. Maybe some rss aggregator with a few interesting feeds. Some easy to use music player like the retard proof one in gnome3 would probably also be a nice idea.
>>54459536
Sounds like a dns issue.
Did you ping Google.com or did you ping 8.8.8.8?
>>54459118
Linux is a monolithic kernel started by linus Torvalds in ~1991. Gnu is an operating system started by rms and a few other people in ~1983. GNU/Linux is the combination of GNU and Linux that became known as just Linux because of the initial media coverage when they entered the market.
UNIX is a family of operating systems going back to the time when dinosaurs still had beards. GNU was designed to be a fully free software operating system that is mostly compatible to UNIX and uses some of the same ideas and principles. (Like one program doing only one thing and doing that well)
>>54460496
>>54460306
For a music player, you want mpd and then control it with clients. YOu can then use your smartphone to play music on the computer with something like MPDroid.
>>54460565
>I would have recommended that but he says his wife doesn't know a lot about computers.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/krita/krita-2016-lets-make-text-and-vector-art-awesome
#MAKEKRITAGREATAGAIN
Why is it so complicated to check if a directory contains at least one file with a specific extension with bash?
My "simple" solution ofif [ -f *.txt ]; then bla bladoesn't exactly work (too many arguments error). All the solutions I found online are really contrived. Is it really that hard to do it?
>>54460575
Doing it the mpd client/server way is suitable for someone who doesn't "know a lot about computers". Most people know how to use their phones and have them always in their hand around the house.
>>54460564
Thank you.
>>54460604
find . -type f -regex .*.txt && echo true || echo false
>>54460643
Won't that also recurse into directories?
Either way, I found something acceptable.if ls *.txt &>/dev/null; then
bla bla bla
>>54460660
What happens when you try if [[ -f *.txt ]];?
Why is installing kde on ubuntu such a pain?
>>54460698
Because you didn't install Kubuntu.
>>54460698
sudo apt intstall kubuntu-desktop
you probably shouldn't use kde with ubuntu I would suggest opensuse
>>54460728
That's what I did but kde doesn't even start.
How's fedora with plasma 5?
>>54460696
That returns an exit status of 1. Using ! in this case seems weird, because it behaves differently from the "usual" case. Why does it return a non-zero exit status if there are .txt files?
>>54460747
[ is a command (the same as test with additional ]}
[[ [] is a bash buildin
Both behave different.
>>54460779
* [[ ]]
>>54460747
It won't work, it's false because it's looking for a file named '*.txt'
>>54460743
did you select kde on the login screen?
I don't know about fedora I haven't used it I think their main focus is gnome. Pretty sure opensuse main focus is KDE.
If you want to use KDE with ubuntu I would wait until KDE Neon becomes stable
>>54460846
>>>54460743 (You)
>did you select kde on the login screen?
Yep. Black screen for hours
>If you want to use KDE with ubuntu I would wait until KDE Neon becomes stable
Thanks for the advice, I'll google more about neon as soon as possible
>>54460806
Thanks for the explanation. So no globbing within the new test [[ ]]? The more I use bash scripting (really simple ones), the more I hate it.
>>54452641
>framed xkcd comic
kek
>>54460933
You can use patterns, but glob expansion doesn't take place.[[ foo.c == *.c ]]
works as you would expect.
>>54460899
>Yep. Black screen for hours
Don't know what to tell you other than I would just download the Kubuntu iso and install it I think that would be easier than trying to troubleshoot what is breaking
Does someone know what DE this is?
I love how it looks
>>54461118
Any DE
Heard about themes?
They are awesome
>>54461118
What this >>54461163 guy said. That's literally xfce4-terminal with a certain GTK theme applied.
>>54461163
>Heard about themes?
no I have not.
>>54461194
it could be arc dark from the looks of it. will work on any GTK DE
>>54461208
Thank you
>>54460779
[[, [ and test are all builtins and [[ just handles combining and quoting differently
>>54461290
Nope. [ and test is POSIX standard which "should" run on every shell. The only buildin is [[.
>>54460933
just do if [ -n "`ls *.txt`" ]
>>54461330
>backtricks
Use $() faggot.
>>54461311
builtin just means they are implemented by the shell so it can avoid a fork. bash dash mksh zsh and every other fucking shell has posix functions builtin you fucktard
>>54461342
on mobile so less chars is better, also not nesting so don't even care
>>54461372
If you want to drive that train, okay here you're right. Don't change the fact that test isn't bash specific.
>>54461399
Still a bad habbit. You shouldn't teach newbs depricated syntax.
>>54461342
this tbh
>>54452641
I'm thinking about switching from Windows to Linux as my main OS.
I have experience with different linux distros throughout the years, but many times it took to much time to configure things that just werked on windows.
I'm running ubuntu 16.04 as live system and it seems to run without too many problems.
My main focus would be consumer level activity (watching vids, opening ebooks (pdf, epub, etc.), occasionally games from steam (nothing too intense on graphics))
I know that backend development on linux is very strongly supported.
What about frontend web development and developing for Android?
Can I easily use things like TeamViewer or RDP to connect to Windows machines?
I have no problem using the command line in an extensive way.
Can somebody help me in naming some pros and cons for the switch?
I'm not very happy with lxde. What is the difference between cinnamon and XFCE?
>>54461532
which specific programs did you use before? teamviewer is not the best way but you can use it. most people use ssh (which works on windows but you'd need to install it there) rdp and vnc are no problem either.
have a look at https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software and prism-break.org
Any way I could get GTK themes to work on Qt
KWin over xfce4 doesnt look nice now
>>54461706
with the qt configuration program you should be able to make them fit your gtk theme.
>>54461595
Cinnamon is closely related to ("based on") GNOME, which traditionally has been a bit heavier on memory than Xfce. Possibly Xfce could run on machines that are too weak for Cinnamon.
Regarding customization I have no clue.
>>54461732
it's called qtcurve i think
>>54461607
I use mainly FOSS on windows too (gimp and the likes for specific use cases). So I know these would work on Linux too.
Most of the software I use is in this list
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_Windows_software
Occasionally I'd like to just plug my printer in print a document. This should be just connecting the printer to the pc and turning it on.
I have some windows machines that I like to connect to with rdp. Teamviewer would be used in extreme rare cases where I'd help somebody out with their computer, because it is so easy to get it running.
I don't want to switch to windows on those machines because they have much hard drive space that is nfts and I don't want to convert that.
Your link is an empty wiki page.
I think my main motiviation is the way windows is phoning home in it's recent versions.
>>54461891
the wiki page is not empty for me.
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software
both of these should display things.
which printer do you have? it's really hit or miss with printers.
>>54461933
>the wiki page is not empty for me.
my bad. I copied the whole line
>printer
samsung ml-1610
Low to very low print volume.
>>54461966
>samsung ml-1610
http://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/supported.html
https://kuttler.eu/en/post/samsung-ml-1610-driver-linux/
>>54461706
Your window manager has nothing to do with the application's looks. They're still using the same GUI toolkit and themes. Check the Arch Wiki on how to make your Qt applications respect your GTK style.
GIMP users:
Can someone check if they can bind ALT+mouse scroll up to change the brush size?
I tried it and it doesn't work. Binding it to CTRL+SHIFT+scroll up works, but none of the other combinations. I want to make sure it's not a problem on my end before reporting it upstream.
>>54462015
I was talking about window borders
>>54462023
i have alt+scroll set to change workspace in my WM, check yours to see if alt+scroll is set elsewhere
>>54462023
i can't use anything with mouse scroll maybe i have a setting somewhere that makes this impossible.
>>54462012
thanks.
I try to get more info on the frontend webdev and android dev parts. But it looks promising.
>>54462200
what do you usually use for this? some of the recommendations on alternativeto are not too bad.
What's the best way to go for Linux ricing? Something like deviant or a meta-distro like Arch or Gentry?
sup niggers.
I'm trying to stream an rtmp stream to my chromecast with castnow and rtmpdump.
I tried to pipe the output of rtmpdump through a named pipe, then read it but rtmpdump closes whenever I try to read the file with mpv or castnow. pls help# mkfifo -m 0666 /tmp/namedPipe
# rtmpdump -r "rtmp://185.63.255.60:80/live/ts1" -p 'http://www.yotv.co/embed.php?live=ts1&vw=620&vh=490' --quiet -o /tmp/namedPipe
# mpv /tmp/namedPipe
after I run the mpv command the rtmpdump one closes
pls help me get this working
>>54462262
android dev - android studio
front end dev - combination of ides and text editors
and of course multiple web browsers
I'm more concerned that I can't get the same results on the browsers in linux.
sometimes I have to tweak some images. I'm out of luck if I get psd files though.
>>54462130
That could be it, gonna see if something's bound to it.
>>54462152
Not even CTRL+scroll to zoom in and out?
>>54462313
strace
also wrap it in a while [true] loop.
>>54462277
Gendry is no longer popular, most people use GNU/Khaleesibuntu now.
But seriously, you can rice on anything, the only difference is how difficult it is. Arch has the AUR to which anyone can add software, which makes it easy to find things like i3-gaps, which probably haven't made it into other distros yet.
What are some great VPNs?
>>54462381
I don't really know how to read this, does it show anything to you?
http://pastebin.com/KTN83ckn
>>54462331
>Not even CTRL+scroll to zoom in and out?
nope, i am not even sure if that's a gtk, gnome or wayland issue.
>>54462325
android studio werks, text editor heaven is about to unfold before you. emacs and vim are there for you. for IDEs there are eclipse, geany and Kdevelop.
pick your poison.
psd files do work in gimp, but i am not sure about CMYK or 10bit palettes before 3.10.
chrome/chromium, firefox, opera, vivaldi shouldn't work very different between OS. for the others you could try WINE but i never did that.
you could also run windows in a VM for these things if there is no other way.
GUys is there a way to keep the programs os the taks bar on Fedora GNOME? I always have to go to activities, and completly change the windows just to change the music.
THanks
>>54462458
*gtk, gimp or wayland issue
>>54462471
you could use keyboard shortcuts for workspace and application switching or install shell extensions with gnome-tweak-tool that give you a taskbar, panel or a window list.
>>54462451
>http://pastebin.com/KTN83ckn
>write(4, "FLV\1\5\0\0\0\t\0\0\0\0\22\0\1!\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\2\0\nonMet"..., 4096) = 4096
It's writing the FLV to the pipe correctly.
Run strace on mpv when you try to open it.
>tfw you successfully create a patch for a program by just removing a line you thought was responsible for it from the source
Take that xfce4-notifyd and your annoying auto fade-out when the desktop is composited.
>>54462576
>tfw you take the OpenBSD (tm) approach and just remove all the bullshit that you don't need and the number of bugs in the shit you do use drops by 90%
>>54462527
https://gist.github.com/anonymous/937fce794b1bbf9298310489cbae19f1
>>54462514
I got the shell extension with the taskbar but it was ugly af and occupied too many space on the screen, i wanted to be able to pin spotify in the top bar. thanks
>>54462313
have you tried starting the reading process first? that is what bash does for pipes
>>54462658
Does it work to cat the FLV out of the pipe and into a normal file and play it?
>>54452641
Anyone can recommend a clean dark theme that works well on the latest lxde? I tried dozens of gtk themes and none worked well on lxde. I'm using Fedora.
>>54462736
Nope, both close
I also tried piping the input directly into mpv but it still closes
y linux is closing down very slowly with error failed to start generate shutdown-ramfs, what may be the cause of it?
>>54462687
try https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/
>>54452641
so, if stallman was younger he would be an emo on tumblr?
>>54462847
>lelel hahaha let's troll the freetards :^)
>>54462847
no, he'd be a high tech prankster.
>>54462799
Can you use rtmpdump to get the FLV as a file? Does that work with mpv?
>>54462313
mpv <url>
ytdl should give you the shit automatically
>>54462766
LXDE uses mostly GTK2 applications (with GTK3 versions available but unstable). All you have to do is find a dark GTK2 theme. You will run into consistency issues that way, if you don't get a matching GTK3 theme. Which brings you back to only a few themes which have GTK2/3 themes and which are compatible with the latest GTK versions.
>Arc
>Blackbird
>>54462920
ytdl uses rtmpdump for rtmp
>>54462901(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
Connecting ...
INFO: Connected...
Starting download at: 0.000 kB
INFO: Metadata:
INFO: duration 0.00
INFO: width 640.00
INFO: height 360.00
INFO: videodatarate 292.97
INFO: framerate 29.97
INFO: videocodecid 7.00
INFO: audiodatarate 31.25
INFO: audiosamplerate 44100.00
INFO: audiosamplesize 16.00
INFO: stereo TRUE
INFO: audiocodecid 10.00
INFO: encoder Lavf54.63.104
INFO: filesize 0.00
1446.112 kB / 42.50 sec^C
Caught signal: 2, cleaning up, just a second...
ERROR: RTMP_ReadPacket, failed to read RTMP packet header
1454.918 kB / 42.77 sec
Download may be incomplete (downloaded about 0.00%), try resuming
I think I'm downloading the stream too slow so mpv is attempting to read file that does not exist yet, since the video + audio bitrate is 330Kbps & I only got 1500Kb over 45 seconds
Dunno why that would crash rtmpdump though
>>54456411
If you check this option the terminal gets smaller, how to do the same within xterm?
>>54462835
>https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/
Perfect, thanks.
>>54463164
>Dunno why that would crash rtmpdump though
If mpv gets to the end of the pipe and closes it, the pipe close will kill whatever writes to it.
Probably.
That's what I was looking for in the strace, but I didn't see any closing due to pipes.
>>54463500
I thought the pipes were always open ended, so one application disconnecting woulnd't close it
The rtmp server is throttling me somehow, but it's not worth figuring out why
>>54463634
>so one application disconnecting woulnd't close it
If that's the intended function then it's buggy as fuck atm. If you cat > pipe and cat pipe, then kill the cat pipe it ends up killing the cat > pipe when you try to send to the pipe too.
>>54463695
You're right, I think that's how it's supposed to work.
I've never seen this stuff before this morning just figuring it out as I go
I want to install Linux alongside Windows to learn how to use it in my spare time.
Should I get a simple distro like Ubuntu or Fedora, or a more complex one like Arch or Gentoo?
>>54464182
if you want to learn, use something that want's you to learn.
https://debian-handbook.info/get/now/
Is anyone using Unity along with external dock like Docky or whatever? Just how bloated or retarded it is in terms of resource usage to have two launchers even if unity will be permanently hidden? The only feature I want from Unity is that appmenu and window buttons integration into the top panel and nothing more. I want to have customizable dock as well.
>>54464182
If it is completly a hobby project, it shouldn't matter.
I mean the arch install teaches you how to create a user from the terminal instead of through a GUI and that's about it.
You can learn the same things with Ubuntu if you want to.
Arch is much simpler than Ubuntu which makes it easy to learn with, but building a Debian / Ubuntu package is usually a good training and more people use that.
>>54464351
Unity is not a desktop environment where you are meant to play with settings.
If you want to use something else, do that.
Someone in here recently told me that getting a PS3 controller working in Wine is equally as difficult as it is on Windows.
They lied and I am disappointed.
It seems to be so much more difficult to get to work in wine, there are a bunch of ways to get it running, and they all admit to being unreliable.
Dammit, why did I format my windows partition?
>>54464503
install gentoo
>>54462576
I tried doing that with an embedded program once, accidentally removed a timer initialiser and it ruined everything, without giving a single useful compiler error.
>>54464182
You should really consider using VirtualBox or VMware before attempting to install it onto your hard drive. That way you will avoid all those data loss/damage problems if you you've never used anything except Windows before. Distro doesn't matter - just try them all.
>>54464503
The only reason it's easier on windows is that many of the tools emulate it as a 360 controller, and that stuff is literally made to work with windows.
Getting it to work natively should provide a much better result, if anyone has bothered anyway.
>>54454403
Seeing similar things on my desktop, using HD 530 (i915). Would you happen to have Intel as well?
>>54452641
what a grotesque image
>>54464503
I'm curious, why did you risk it with a PS3 controller instead of going to the safe safe choice of a Xbox 360 controller?
>>54464572
there are such tools available in linux, too (emulating a 360 controller with arbitrary controllers)
Found this in another thread:
>There's a golden rule OP.
>Every distro that calls itself "Linux" is made by tech illiterates and nothing more than a meme.
Is it true?
>mfw Kali Linux
>mfw Linux Mint
>mfw Arch Linux
>>54452641
who are these people
>>54464944
You weren't lying.
>>54465009
Ooooh snap.
Why is Debian so nice?
Sid, specially
Guys, how difficult would it be to set up a GPU passthrough on a Debian installation? I'm currently dual booting with a small Windows partition for certain videogames that just won't run on Wine or natively, but I'd love it if I could just get rid of it altogether and have EVERYTHING I want on Debian.
Should I wait a few more years until it becomes a more mainstream feature, or is it already relatively doable?
>>54465201
forget about it if it's an nvidia gpu
otherwise, gpu passthrough is a solved problem if you can jump through a few hoops
>>54465243
>forget about it if it's an nvidia gpu
Well shit, it is. Why is it impossible with them?
>>54465273
iirc the driver implodes if it detects a VM
>>54465201
I'm in the process of doing it myself, currently.
Debian testing
i7-6700K
Z170
GTX 970
Plan is to use the IGFX (HD 530) for desktop and always dedicate the GTX 970 for passthrough.
So far I've only configured vfio and IOMMU groups, haven't started with the hypervisor.
What >>54465243 said is not true, according to [3]. Lots of people who use Nvidia drivers and 9xx cards.
[1] - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF (you'll find links and info to most of what you need here).
[2] - https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=162768
[3] - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aryg5nO-kBebdFozaW9tUWdVd2VHM0lvck95TUlpMlE&usp=drive_web#gid=0
[4] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16dbAUrtMX4
does manjaro have any big flaws except for it's wiki and forum being currently unavailable? thinking of "graduating" from mint.
>>54465375
Manjaro is a great distro for time travel.
https://archive.is/JeOLo
https://a.uguu.se/lmhetg_yearofthelinuxdesktop.webm
>>54465401
will i be able to sudo my way back to 2013 to tell her i love her?
>>54465466
Everything is possible with sudo.
>>54465446
t-that is not how my installation went. Which distro comes with your very own murder-by-anime sequence during boot?
>>54465347
>Plan is to use the IGFX (HD 530) for desktop and always dedicate the GTX 970 for passthrough.
This is my main problem with the passthrough. I actually do use emulators on Debian and I don't know how current Intel's HD graphics fare on normal things like mpv with NNEDI placebo.
I've been hopping from distro to distro for a while now and I finally took the plunge and installed arch from the cli. It's actually incredibly relieving compared to the potentially hours of unknowable horror involved in installing and configuring everything from guis. I finally know exactly what's going on, no more mysterious bugs buried in auto-generated conf files, no more system-destablizing bloat packages silently running in the background for years without ever being aware they even exist! Everything that goes wrong is because of my own human error and can actually be fixed without arcane black magicks from the dark recesses of the internet!
I'm free! Free at last! Was blind but now I see!
>>54464902
Because I already own several PS3 controllers.
>>54458978
CentOS uses stable packages/kernel. Fedora is bleeding edge.
>>54465466
I smirked, but the feel is familiar.
>>54465446
The red color makes it seem really serious. Do I dare to view it? Will tiny people jump out and attack me?
>>54466169
probably.
set up an arch vm to wget the webm, just in case
>>54466169
uguu.se is just a file host the file is a webm with sound
>>54466169
You should disable this feature. It connects to a server, usually Google and checks for sites which are reported for bad content.
Go to about:config and fix that shit.
Can anyone recommend a gtk3 3.20 dark theme,besides arc?
>>54465162
because it's filled with moderate freetards? because it offers choice and a deblobbed kernel by default?
>>54466239
https://github.com/shimmerproject/Blackbird
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Candra-Themes?content=175978
No idea if Dorian supports 3.20.
http://killhellokitty.deviantart.com/art/Dorian-theme-slate-3-18-6-03102016-588515310
>>54466284
>moderate freetards
https://wiki.debian.org/AntiHarassment
luckily I'm on busybox which is free from all this gnu
>>54466348
we had this yesterday. any you were BTFO hard in the discussion.
>>54466348
>hates freetards
>hates gnu
>where to go?
>gnu/linux thread
Seriously faggot, just leave this thread finally.
>>54466348
Busybox belongs into toasters and dish washers, not in a desktop computer.
>>54466341
Candra looks great,cept only the white and grey versions work.There is no version of the black one on the far right on its page.,unless im missing something
>>54465798
You can use a dedicated graphics card for your host desktop, given that you'll be able seperate the two cards and their PCI slots with their IOMMU groups using VFIO or something.
I'm not much into mpv tuning, but HD 530 kicks pretty good so it might work out fine.
>>54466565
I think the black one is turned on by selecting "dark theme" from the white version.
I don't like it to be honest. Zukitre4lyf
>>54466341
>themes on github without screenshots
I will never understand this. People put down hours to days or work, but can't be arsed to take a simple snapshot to get people interested.
>>54466633
If you like the theme, submit a pull request with a screenshot.
>>54466695
>If you like the theme
I don't know if I do.
>>54466695
I just wont install it
What's a good C++ ide for arch? Or should I just optimize my vim for it?
>>54466621
Its the lease smeling shit in the shit pile so far.
The gtk2 theme i've been using for a decade,is perfect,and im a retard when it comes to the syntax for gtk3 theming.
>>54466823
GTK3 uses CSS for theming. It's really, really, extensive. Do those people create mockups and then try to replicate it with CSS or do they just make it up as they go? Because I don't understand how they can keep up with all of those different classes and making it look coherent.
>>54466762
1. Editor or IDE isn't distro specific.
2. A full-fledged IDE isn't necessarily how you do C/C++ development on *nix, but rather external tools like GCC, Clang, valgrind is used.
3. If you really want an IDE, checkout KDevelop or Netbeans. Of course, there's also Vim and Emacs which both make perfectly good development environments if you make them your own with config and possibly plugins. There's a reason that so many C/C++ devs use these two editors.
>>54460518
both. I just backed up my stuff and reinstalled it.
>>54466762
I use codelite. It's pretty easy to setup, auto completion isn't shit, you can have a minimalist layout and it doesn't bug / crash like a lot of them.
I swapped my 1TB HDD for 250GB SSD on my laptop; I only have that now.
I plan to dual boot W8 and Xubuntu, how does /g/ recommend to split my partitions?
>update ubuntu server
>doesn't boot
Thanks mang.
>>54467406
Depends on your usage, but you probably want to dedicate 10-20G for Xubuntu, excluding whatever you might put in your home directory such as documents, pictures etc.
Thinking of installing fedora on my pc, but I read it's targeted to developers. Is it true? I'm not one, and don't want to be one, I just want a good Linux distro to try to change from ubuntu.
>>54467597
Debian.
What's the problem of using Yaourt??
What else should I use to download from the AUR
>>54467597
I've been using Fedora since F15 and I'm not a developer. It's like a cleaner Ubuntu that gives you the feeling of doing something right :)
>>54467597
whatever the distribution, they all are gnu/linux, so they work almost the same way, have almost the same software, and do the same shit.
Don't give a fuck about "but it's for devs" or "but it's for servers". It's just a distribution, it have a graphical interface, and you can install your shit on it.
If you don't know a lot about the differences between the distributions, just try them.
>>54467720
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_helpers#Comparison_table
hope you'll find an answer
>>54467772
Alright I removed Yaourt after installing aurutils. I tryied doing aurutils -S packagename but it didn't work
>>54467720
nothing, and both pamac and octopi I believe have yaourt integration
>>54467597
a. doesn't aim to be a general desktop distro, just workstation for devs
b. red hat test-bed forces alpha software onto you (early systemd, gnome3, anaconda installer)
c. lots of forbidden items including fonts, multimedia, modern crypto & binary drivers
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items
d. rpmfusion can't correct all (crypto & amd binary drivers), is insecure and badly maintained
https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3313
https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3023
e. breakage due to following latest stable kernel instead of backporting while otherwise not allowing major updates
f. strict packaging rules with no bundling except firefox, so no chromium available. did soften them somewhat recently.
g. bad defaults: not keeping old packages, but repos only have latest; workstation has ports open by default; anaconda installer doesn't force a root password and starts sshd at the end; ugly fonts
h. no real user repos like AUR/PPAs: Copr is a ghost town and enforces Fedora's forbidden items
>>54457762
>Swap partitions aren't so useful now
Why not?
>>54458349
You can't use Linus Torvalds. He won't be used.
>>54467929
because of the amount of ram the average user has, swap is now only relevant if you hibernate or sleep your system
>>54467752
i'd say desktop should be rolling release [0] as desktop software won't do any maintenance releases for old versions at all, so stable[1] distros like Fedora will suck.
for example Fedora 23 being frozen shortly before tmux 2.1 was released which fixed some major annoyances[2] and now you have to wait 6 months till it's fixed.
[0] ideally it should stable base and latest software like OS X
[1] as in keeping one stable version during a release cycle, not updating to the latest major
[2] https://github.com/ThomasAdam/tmux/blob/master/FAQ#L355
>>54467825
took me 5 seconds.
https://github.com/AladW/aurutils/blob/release-0.8.0/README
>>54467972
My netbook has 2GB. So, SWAP is relevant to me, right?
>>54468154
>my ultra lite, low end hardware doesn't have much ram so you're wrong
ok burh, but even with just two gigs if you're on linux there's no need for swap
>>54468227
no matter how much ram you
have, swap can increase performance by allowing unused anonymous
memory to be paged out, thereby increasing your maximum effective RAM.
Linux doesn't start swapping or reclaiming at all until your RAM is full, so disabling it is asinine.
lads has anyone using Debian Jessie added the point subreleases source?
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/errata
am I putting the system in danger by not updating?
>>54468052
>as desktop software won't do any maintenance releases for old versions at all
Not universally true. Also, there's a vocal contingent of people who *hate* if there's behavioral or major UI changes in apps during a release. Rolling release doesn't care about this at all, it's not a real solution.
I want decoupling too, so I'm very much looking forward to xdg-app support in the major distributions.
>>54468411
no what's asinine is insisting on using a swap partition, you don't really need it and if you absolutely think you need swap a dynamic swap file is a better solution
Is there a shell-scripting (BASH) crash course? Assume I knew several programming languages, but I think BASH is an ugly clusterfuck and I just want to get up and running quickly with it -- preferably without reading a 100 pages document.
When the arch beginner guide says to install grub to the drive arch was installed to does it mean the USB i have the iso running off of or the USB im currently trying to install it to?
>>54468535
the drive you're doing the permanent install on
>>54468535
You arch-chroot to /mnt -- and /mnt is mounted to your installation target, i.e. the USB stick you want to install it onto.
In that chroot you do install grub, i.e. pacman -S grub.
>>54467848
a) false. the stated plan was quite the opposite.
b) Fedora does not ship alpha anything. release early, release often works with some pain, but it's only through widespread use that you can effectively iron out software like that. also being a "test-bed" for RH is great if you want to ever work with enterprise Linux, or just like using the latest technologies like systemd and Wayland.
c) yes, it sucks. I use Fedora, but this is why I hardly ever recommend it
d) yes, this is part of the suckage.
e) what breakage? the kernel is one of the safest packages to update because upstream is so anti-breakage
f) likely to become irrelevant with xdg-app
>>54468504
>if you absolutely think you need swap
you are asinine if you think not
>a dynamic swap file is a better solution
no. slower, less robust and not even supported on all fs (btrfs)
>>54468596
>thinking btrfs is relevant
welp |I"m done here, you're beyond help
>>54468227
I have not said you're wrong. I just asked if I swap is relevant to me, because appears that I have very little ram.
>>54468634
not relevant unless you're running a heavy de with full animations and shit
>>54468644
I'm using Ubuntu with default DE.
>>54468689
you should be fine but if it seems a bit laggy to you try disabling desktop effects etc..
OK, so there isn't an official FOSS Twitter client for GNU/Linux (Ubuntu), right?
>>54468697
It IS a bit laggy, but I think it's due to lack of good graphic driver.
>>54468704
There are hundrets. Search github.
>>54468704
Twitter is awful and you shouldn't use it
My wireless mouse does not works in Ubuntu 16.04. How can I make it work?
>Leadership 2021
>>54468737
I'm not, my blog is using it.
>>54468618
btrfs doesn't support swap /files/
>>54468719
>official
Are you sure?
>>54468778
I didn't say it did retard, I said it's irrelevant and anyone who thinks btrfs is relevant to modern linux is a fool
>>54468644
Why do idiots always think "anoomations" are a memory problem? gnome-shell is using 200MiB on my laptop, and it's been up for a day.
Your browser is very likely the most memory hungry thing in an average set-up. That anon should use swap.
>>54468800
what replaced it?
>>54468809
idjit
>>54468840
nothing, it was never relevant, it was a piss poor attempt at replacing zfs that never gained traction
any notable MATE themes out there?
>>54468768
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?s=twitter
>>54468411
Bullshitvm.swappiness=20
vm.vfs_cache_pressure=10
who the fuck still needs swap with >=8GB or RAM?
>>54468932
a few people.
The question is "Who still needs swap when they have >=8GB RAM"
I got a swap partition and still wonder why I got it. It's been 4 or 5 years and I didn't used it yet.
>>54468932
lel
Busybox: >>54469063
This may not be the right place to post this, but whatever.
I have a 5 year old laptop with Manjaro running. I used the dd function on my machine. When I turned it back on to boot into the flash drive, it just stays at the bios screen. I've tried booting it from a disk and another drive but it still won't get past the screen. Should I take out my hdd and install manjaro again or is my computer kill?
>>54468932
I run multiple java applications which easily take upwards of 12/16 gb after a few days of constant use. I have a small 4gb swap on a 10k velocirapter i get a decade ago.Enouch to dump system files back in and sort its self out. Helps prevent javas notorius oom dumps.
>>54464838
Yes. I tried downgrading xf86-video-intel but it made no difference.
>>54469124
well, i also can (and i often do) make things ugly like pic related when i open thousands of tabs but it's just an extreme case of me fucking around and it doesn't apply to 99,99% of users. those who actually need swap, wlll have it. the rest sholdn't bother
>>54469209
Your point on swap being pointless,even for joe blow consumer,is incorrect.Even as you stated,i know a handful of people who have chrome up to 100+tabs unironically,some with media in them,its not that uncommon to muster up 16gb+ of content just being a facebook user and streaming shit.
>>54460660
Just add '-maxdepth 1' somewhere. And stop parsing the output of ls. It's really bad.
>>54468873
OK, I've installed Corebird.
>>54469272
i dare you to open 100 tabs in chrome with youtube vids on them and check the memory usage
using up all the 16GB is not only uncommon but also difficult to achieve and definitely not something than an average user will see happening unles he tries hard. it's 16GB after all
>>54469502
>not knowing what cache is
>kek
>>54469527
kudos to you for giving up this fast
not that i expected any revelation because i tried shit like this before
Has anyone installed linux on a chromebook? I have an Acer chromebook 11 that I'd like to flash linux onto, is it worth it? Which lightweight distro should I use?
>>54469333
That was using the return code, not the output. Also when not outputting to a tty ls outputs newline separated records by default, what is really bad about parsing that?
>>54470021
-maxdepth 1 will stop find recusing.
You can have newlines in filenames.
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs
How is this distro so inept?
