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>>54443380
Get cucked by the jews, faggot. Support a company that deserves it, like AMD.
don't care care about VR. don't care about 4k.
not wasting money on it.
>Tweak drivers, release practically the same card again
>>54443380
>not waiting for HBM2 cards
neck yourself
>>54443819
HBM2 isn't worth waiting for
>>54443380
good work pajeet
0.35 deposited to your nvidia account
>>54443736
If I'm this guy, should I buy the 980 instead?
BTW, /g/ what drugs are you taking right now? What are you sipping on?
>>54443380
I have a 970 but will it be worth it to upgrade?
As far as I can tell, this is shaping up to be a card for those who have not upgraded in 4+ years. The new Doom averaging around 120-140fps does not give me hope.
I bought a 1440p 144hz monitor and figured I would put it to good use once the 1080 dropped but it might be worth waiting.
>>54443819
>faling for the memory jew
you fuckers never learn
What's the TDP on that shit anyway? Also AMD will have a conference about Polaris this week. Waiting for that before anything. Nvidia still can't into Async compute too. I reckon the smaller die will provide cooler running units with cheaper/better performance.
>>54443697
Couldn't wait needed a GPU went with a Gigabyte 380x 4GB
Why do they call it the GTX 1080?
Because when you see it, you'll do 3 turns and then walk away.
>>54443861
Get a 980ti if you want to get a 980. Going for pretty cheap on hardwareswap
>>54443934
Is it worth it flow chart:
Is your current frame rate satisfactory?
>Yes
It's not worth it
>No
It's worth it
Dragging sunk costs into it is irrelevant.
>nvidia do an apple style presentation with bullshit graphs
>jensen jobs in his iconic leather jacket
>wow, just wow. 2.5x performance boost over 980 in VR I'll never use
>how do they do it
>980 owners already throwing there money away for a 20FPS boost
Bravo, nvidia marketing department. You work here is done.
My 680 is workbook just fine, thank you
>>54443736
>Don't care about 4k
not caring about 4k means not caring about performance. Buy a 750ti
>>54443380
you mean a soft launch with availability in winter?
>>54443380
What will you do with those, play your kid games? Don't you know video games rot your brain?
Do you think my rig could handle a 1080/1070?
>>54445811
actually I think it is to capitalize on the known high resolution of 1080p
it fosters a sort of mental association
>>54443380
>Buying new next gen GPU
>first born driver
>first born hardware
>first born tech that still tested by devs
>All cards are sold out on release so the price will be gone up because of it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ITS LIKE YOU RETARDS LEARNED NOTHING FROM FERMI.
>>54446546
Get a fucking job
>>54443697
AMD will deserve my money when they release a product that's worth buying.
>>54446546
Probably if you overclock that ram to 2133mhz.
>>54443819
>lets wait for the next thing, it'll be better guys!
>never buys anything
>>54446564
You mean like 390?
How its feel that 970 will be obsolete once 1070 come out unlike the 390?
>>54446547
But then it doesn't push for the notion of 4K resolutions.
>>54446605
???
>>54446591
You mean the 290, which is the 390, which is the 490?
How's it feel buying the same card three years in a row.
>kek
>>54443380
>fell for SLI meme
Remember all those guys that said pascal won't be ready until the end of the year? Or the morons that said pascal is fake because the interposer couldn't be reprogrammed to run on gddr5x? Or the ones that claim the demos on stage were Maxwell chips in fucking Feb 2016?
/g/ents, 1070 or 1080 for WQHD (1440p)?
The Division and Paragon are peaking out at about 40-45 fps on higher settings (not even ultra) on my 970.
Gtx980 Ti price drop when?
>>54446631
980 ti already 60fps ultra 99.99% of the games at 1440p. A 1070 will be even more powerful than that.
>>54443960
>faling
>>54446614
>Two of those already beat Nvidia in current card with current tech.
>One of them is a fucking 4 years old card.
>New Nvidia card are using focusing in the new tech on software level
>Literally killing their current gen card
>AMD still strong because they got it on hardware level
One card going strong in 4 years with upgraded version for new users.
How its feel need to upgrade your cards in every years Nvidiot?
>>54445811
But anon, if you are facing it and do three turns, you'll still be facing it after turning 1080 degrees. Does this means it's really that good?
>>54446659
but will I have to buy a new one a year from now? Or hopefully last at least 2 years?
>>54446655
Never. Your best hope is to buy a 980 ti RIGHT NOW from a guy looking to panic sell.
>>54446631
1070 is Allegedly a smidge faster than the Titan X (RIP Maxwell's value), and it'll only be $379, so, I'd go with the 1070, and maybe upgrade to the 1080 in a year or two, as the next GPU Family by Nvidia won't (likely) be such a leap.
>>54446659
>980 ti already 60fps ultra 99.99% of the games at 1440p. A 1070 will be even more powerful than that.
In DX11 games.
980ti will obsolete soon because 10xx will became the new standard.
>>54446655
Probably never since retards still haven't realized 1080 is less than a month away and merchants have low stock.
>>54443771
>New Architecture
>Die Shrink
>New memory type
1/10 made me reply
>>54446694
> 2 years?
Doubt it, HBM2 is in 2017.
>>54446694
Oh yeah definitely you'll have to get a new one within a week because it'll burn your house down you memeing faggot
-Advanced Micro Devices™ 2016
>>54446702
Yeah, I was honestly expecting that. They've not bothered to drop them in the slightest in the past 2 or 3 months.
I aint buying used hardware though, especially gfx cards. I dont know what these manchildren out there have done to them.
>>54446736
So I guess if it's going to only last that long either way, I should just go with the cheaper option lol
>>54446137
by that logic you could justify a 4k vr rig
>>54446748
Most people treat their graphics card like trophies. When in doubt just ask for a pic of their rig. If it's nicely sleeved and looks nice you're good to go.
>>54446741
>"Advanced" Micro Devices.
>>54446748
It's simple.
Buy used 980 ti on Ebay.
Issue dispute because item not as described.
Ship back a box of rocks that weigh the same.
Get refund and enjoy your free 980 ti!
>>54446605
>doesn't get it
:^)
>>54446782
What's your point?
>>54446729
>New memory type
Only for the 1080, the 1070 still uses regular old GDDR5.
Still, what worries me slightly is that both the 1080 and 1070, like the 970 and 980, only have a 256 bit wide memory bus.
>>54446805
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>54443697
I once had a 4850 and I was perfectly happy with. But AMD have not showed anything yet and I'm tired to wait. I'm gonna replace my GTX670 with a brand new GTX1070 if nothing happen in 2-3 months max.
>>54446683
>shilling this hard for 4 year old hardware
>ancient in the tech world
ok gramps, feel free to stagnate in the shit pile.
So if the price drop happen, should I go with 970 or 390?
>>54446830
Ill agree with you on that one. Why does nvidia have such a hard-on for small memory buses? Heres hoping to hbm2 1080 ti
>>54446866
$200 gtx 1060 with 980 performance. Once overclocked it'll reach 980 ti pref.
>>54446830
you can only have so much bandwidth without soldering RAM on the die, and the distance/heat limitations still exist, but seriously with a 16 NM manufacturing they could've just added HBM, even with a lower bandwidth (2048, or so).
>>54446849
>>ancient in the tech world
>Its so ancient the Nvidia new cards lineup finally use it after 5 years of ignoring it.
>not even on hardware level.
Spot the /v/tard.
>>54446866
what >>54446886 said, that's kind of the logical path of progression that NVIDIA would take.
>>54446886
>$200 gtx 1060 with 980 performance
Is this meant the other two cards will only cost me $100?
Holy shit. which cards /g/?
>>54446866
Wait for the 1060. It will beat Polaris 10 card for $100 less
>>54446897
>amd retard attempts to convince an entire thread gcn is just as good as pascal
Is this guy for fucking real
>>54446887
Then why does amd usually have twice as big memory buses? Not shilling, i have a 980
>>54446818
???????????
>>54446793
yeah, supposed used or refurbished with a warranty from some seller on amazon wouldnt be a bad idea.
>>54446866
>buying old, depreciated, and gimped cards
kek
Wait for the 1060, brah
980-level of performance for $200
>>54446936
Source: My Ass
>>54446926
>GTX 1050 (970-low 980 Perf)
>950 Ti (Maybe 960+ perf)
>>54446926
Wait for the amd fire sale
>>54446940
I wasn't talking about this gen.
But if you want me to follow your logic then 9xx is even shittier than both AMD current gen and the upcoming Pascal.
>>54446833
same.
So, I guess, I shouldnt buy 960 anymore?
I wait with PC upgrade since last two years, PC itself is 5-6 years old, with once changed GPU, from GTX 460 to 660. I originally planned to buy new one mid July, but with those new cards, I guess I have to wait yet another year or what?
>>54446951
>yfw it's actually a rebranded 980
>>54446945
with the Fury series? Who knows, i'm saying due to heat limitations the bandwidth might have to be toned down a bit, but in all, what's 256 to 2048?.
>>54446614
>You mean the 290, which is the 390, which is the 490?
Are you retarded or did you miss the last few months? Polaris is a new architecture and a major die shrink.
>>54446982
Wait for the 1060
It will be the best price-to-performance card on the market. Polaris 10 will be in the $250+ range, but the 1060 is guaranteed to be in the $200 range. Plus, Polaris 10 can't even beat a 390X, but a 1060 will match or beat a 980, which is faster and better than a 390X.
>>54446982
Wait 1~2 months and it'll be released. All the reject 1080 becomes 1070 and reject 1070 becomes 1060 etc
>>54447014
>reject 1070 becomes 1060
*1060 Ti
Stay hyped
>>54446996
490 is 390+tessellation+node shrink
It's a 100% rebrand
>Maybe, maybe
Where the hell you guys got all these information from?
I don't want to wait on fud.
Next you retards will said to wait for AMD too to see if the price is right.
>Asnyc and DX12 meme
So my 970 will be obsolete now?
>>54446991
Not even, amd does 512 bit on the 390x and even 390. And 256 to 2048 would be a massive jump
>>54447077
not obsolete, but if you dont resale before July/August, worthless.
>>54447043
Mankind unanimously agreed on Friday that AMD is finished and bankrupt.
>>54447014
>>54447005
Such is my luck - pushing upgrade further and further, because of new parts waiting to be released/reduced in price. I was close to even say "fuck it" and considering buying 1070, which would be my very first -70 card so far.
I guess I have to get even more aptience and keep waiting, like usual.
>>54443380
Well, /g/, it's almost time for me to upgrade my rig. Do you think it'll be worth getting something from the 1000 series, or would it be best to hold off for the 2000 series? I'm usually not one to do the "just wait" game, but since it's the first line with the new architecture, I'd like some thoughts.
>>54447077
Sell it on ebay for $150 and buy a 1070 when it launches
Your card is worthless
>>54447089
>worthless
Jesus fuck, is really that bad?
I just got this card last year.
>>54447082
4096 Bus would've been the limitation, yes AMD has the 512, but Nvidia could've opted with HBM easily and slapped AMD even harder, unless AMD licenses it.
>>54447112
>Jesus fuck, is really that bad?
Just look at the sold listings for the gtx 970. Their prices have been dropping since Feb.
At this rate, it won't surprise me if you're only able to sell it for $150.
>>54447042
>geometry discard engine
>more async shaders
>more and new l2 cache
>new memory controler
>new command processor
>new CUs
>rebrand
K M8
>>54447112
I mean the 1070 has the performance of a Titan X, it takes 3 970's to even get near it (memory limitation meme). So, i'd re-sell it, I think the 1070 releases on June 10th.
>>54447098
>>54447094
Why the fuck am I always a year early with upgrades.
I get a compete rig overhaul after years of waiting and a year later the entire gaming community mass upgrades leaving me with old shit
You fags following the lunar moon phase or something what the fuck
>>54443380
1050ti when?
>>54443861
980 runs Stalker (SHOC, CoP and Lost alpha) at 3840x2160 maintaining 60fps with everything maxed. Arma2, however, it doesnt and in fact it never reaches even 60fps, so there must be some problem with 3840x2160 resolution in Arma2.
Tfw at least 50% of 980 Ti users will upgrade to the 1080
Tfw millions of people will buy these cards regardless of hundreds of whiny anti-semitic comments on useless shitsites like these
>>54447152
It's simple. We keep up with the news.
When a new generation of cards comes out, we buy within that year. New cards almost always release around springtime. A generation lasts for two years (Nvidia: X70+X80 first, then X60 by Fall, followed by X80 Ti/Titan the following year/AMD: X80/X and X70/X first, then X90/X by Fall).
Kepler/GTX 700 series launched in 2012. Maxwell launched in 2014. And now Pascal launches this year. Volta will come in 2018.
>>54447152
I knew there was a new architecture coming out. And plus Nvidia published a roadmap of their major upgrades, man. So you can get an idea of when to expect shit.
>>54447214
What about people who bought it between that years?
>>54447152
My GTX 660 served me well for pretty okay time. The "old and worthless shit" actually depends on what kind of games you play and in what resolutions.
Im in kinda funny situation of still having monitor running with native 1680x1050 (everything bigger gets too small icons and fonts for me), so I run games with better details and lower than popular resolutions with more FPS. No matter how hard I would try, games like Ass Creed would still run like crap, since Ubi completely ignores the idea of optimizing.
Plus, both Nvidia and AMD have to release new models on regular manner, since this is their income source. People wouldnt buy new ones, if old are enough, so devs are ecnouraged to increase demands - sometimes in ulgy manner of ignoring optimization.
>>54447296
They're what normal people would call "poorfags"
>t-the 1060 will definitely be better than polaris 10! i promise!
>1060 comes out, absolute house fire wood screw 400mm2+ die with day 420 drivers, 3.5gb gddr4 vanery cards with reference coolers, can't even outperform 470
>n-nvidia wins the high end, they're still better!
>>>/g/
>>54447314
I don't get it.
>>54446833
Tahiti was pretty good too.(HD79xx)
ecpecially OCing them was pretty fun.
Everything after that was shit though
>>54443697
I buy their CPUs :3 I hate how Intel bullied them out of the asian markets, it was bullshit. I really do not want to buy an intel CPU, but it looks like if I want to top out the power on my next rig, I would need to buy intel.
I'm thinking of just upgrading to an 8350 and getting a more up to date GPU, which is an invidia GPU btw.
Do you think it will have proper DX12 performance?
My impression is that AMD have the advantage there now.
>>54447345
It's because poor people can't afford to buy new cards when they launch and have to wait for the prices to drop in order to buy them. They usually wait until Black Friday or right at the cusp of a new generation of GPUs.
Somewhat unrelated question, I plan to buy a new rig with a gtx 1080 or two. Should I go ahead and buy the rest of the parts or wait to see what Intel's new processors will be like (not too far away, computex). Not sure how long it will take for them to hit the market after computex though.
>>54447298
what you said is mostly accurate but that last part is just silly. capitalism encourages them to ignore their own optimizations in the first place. why spend money on that when you could be making another game? same with gpus, or any company under a capitalistic system.
capitalism is not flawless.
So, around late July, GTX 1070 would probably still be unprofitable due to still high price?
>Still no benchmark result.
>people keep saying sell your current card now
Is /g/ being serious or I'm being shilled?
Not trolling here but this is sounds really retarded, do you guys did the same thing when Fermi came out?
>>54447399
The $379 GTX 1070 is faster than the Titan X. They won't be able to keep it on shelves. People will resell it for $500.
>>54447326
using a 960 right now and happy with it. Their x60 cards are usually pretty good. That said, the r9 380 is almost indisputably better.
My hope is that the 1060 will be had for $200 msrp and be at least close to a gtx 980 in terms of 1080p fps in games. If it hits that, then I don't think anybody in their right mind can complain about that.
>>54447442
>not Jewing the system
I'm buying three and selling them right when supplies run out (which they will right after June)
>>54446204
Forgot this new meme
>Founders edition!
Pascal looks like a complete and total disaster.
I am a #AMDmissile now.
Waiting for that HBM2 god tier card.
Enjoy rebranded 10 year old GDDR5 and 256 bit bus technology.
>>54447470
You're going to profit like $200 with a $1200 investment. I mean, thats a pretty good return in a short time, but that's a lot of work for what amounts to just about half of a week's paycheck if you work for $10/ hr. Just seems like small potatoes is all.
>>54447470
>>54447442
So, Im basicalyl fucked if I planned to upgrade around late July?
>>54447359
The 670 was cheaper when I bought it but I agree that the 7970 was impressive with it's 3GB of ram.
>>54446546
>2500k
It can handle any GPU until they fit in to PCI 3.0.
>>54447516
Just preorder. The 980 ti was out of stock within the first month of its release and out of stock for another again because the Fury x failure.
>>54447381
Skylake was literally just released you fucking retard
>>54447540
>fury x failure
wew shill
Fury x was sold out for far much longer than the rebranded 980 was
>>54447540
I cant really pre-order, Im living in Europe, Poland to be more precise. If I would import, it would be from Germany, to avoid huge cost for ocean transport and taxes.
>>54446945
because you have to keep improvements in mind for the 1080 ti otherwise it'll just be a factory over clock shitbox :^)
>actually upgrading to pascal
>not waiting until gtx 11xx pascal 2.0 refresh in 9 months
>>54447639
>Volta with 4x the performance is only 19 months away
>>54447442
Actually, that was presented skewed. 1070 is faster than the titan x in double float precision.
1070 is only 6.5 gflops fyi
>>54447663
>le wait meme xD
Waiting for the Gigabyte Windforce 3X GTX 1070 G1 OC
>>54447042
Kill yourself
>>54447706
>not waiting for the sexy beast that will be the EVGA 1070 SC
cuck
>>54447790
>paying for SC
You're the reason EVGA have 8000 different SKUs for each gpu. Kill yourself.
Also
>7.5
>>54447639
Yeah, sure, why buy 10xx, when in next year you will get 11xx. Why buy 11xx, if you can just wait for 12xx. Why buy 12xx, when you can just wait a little bit more and buy 13xx instead. And who would buy 13xx, when with only little more patience, you can get 14xx!
With that kind of thinking, I spent using (almost) same setup for 6 years.
>>54447706
>>54447790
Speaking of, how long does it usually take after the reference card is available for aftermarket cards to start popping up? I want my whisper quiet MSI 1070, pls
>>54447820
>amdrone being this mad
kek
>>54447790
>EVGA
Gigabyte has always been flawless with the 6-7 computers (gigabyte mobo and gpu) I've built for me and family. Last time I've bought an EVGA gpu I've had to return it twice.
>>54447835
>msi
they're shit
>>54447405
>do you guys did the same thing when Fermi came out
The kids posting this shit weren't even allowed on the internet without mom watching when Fermi came out.
>>54447863
MUH MSI MILITARY CLASS FOUR SEMPER FI CARD WITH MIL STD REQ SRC KKK QUALITY WILL BLOW YOUR SHITTY EVGA CARD OUT OF THE WATER FAGGOT
>>54447827
>tfw still using a GTX560
Release the goddamn cards already ffs
>Mfw I bought a 970 2 weeks ago
I dun goofed
>>54447862
>hurrdurr muh confirmation bias
>>54447923
Just return it fag
>>54447827
This is a fair point desu, the smart thing to do of course is wait for higher than average jumps in technology and if you've kept up with the node shrinks over the last few decades you'd know that running into the limit of 28nm and then dropping a staggering 14nm to 16nm is massive and that things such as 2x as fast dont come along very often, the last time we had even close to this was with the gtx 8800 over the prior gen. And maybe ATIs 9700 before that.
It's a great time to buy a card, if you wait more you'll miss out on a huge leap in performance for a relatively small cost.
>>54446546
No. Games already bottleneck on 970 with overclocked i5 2500ks.
>>54445811
They call it the 1080 because it's the TENTH-series 80, just like the 980 is the NINTH-series 80.
>>54447938
I wish that 1070 would drop to 250$ after month. Or 280.
Would still cost me less than buying 970 rigth now from local shops. Even with transport from different continent and including taxes.
Even better if it would drop to 280 EUR instead in Germany.
>>54447943
no they don't.
>>54443380
>1080 x 2 = 2160
Does this mean we can run games at 2160p now?
I have 1100 eurodollaroos saved up for a Pascal card and a 4K monitor. What can I buy for that? Or should I save some more?
>>54447835
this time with founder edition bullshit? no idea, probably july
something is wrong with that hard to say if chip production problems rumor are true or nvidia trying to cut first wave of partners and make max possible returns on 320mm2 chips
got a 970x this week, not knowing about this.
Should I return this? considering im playing 1080p on 1920x1280
>>54448055
Why the fuck would you return it, how does the release of a new card change anything about your cards performance? Are people really this fucking consumer whorish
>>54448026
yes
Will the performance translate to 1080p/1440p high fps or will the power increase they talk about mostly apply to VR?
I really don't want to watch the whole conference to find out.
>>54448072
/g/ already became normie dumfucks applel iphone territory a while ago
>>54448072
Are you literally retarded?
I should probably throw my two 770s in the trash now. My 970s will join them shortly
>>54448109
Do you actualy eat shit?
>>54448072
that is not really an answer
there are people in this board that bought a titan x LMAO which lose to 299 amd CARD Xd
>>54448055
A 970 is more than capable enough for 1080p, heck I game with a 780ti (which is simmilar in performance) on 1440p and have no problem running games on 60 fps with high settings.
That said, if you can still return it and get your money back, you should, you can probably get the 1070 in about a month for 50-80 bucks more and it will be at least 40% faster
>>54448124
>getting the best thing for your money is being "consumer whorish"
fuck off you moron
>>54443697
I will support AMD, if they offer similar performance for less shekels
>>54448154
Yeah it fucking is, idiot, a 970 is fine for 1080p, although if he can still return it he probably should and get a 1070 in a month. It will be overkill for 1080p but at least its more future proof
>>54448162
but they already do anon. I got a 8gb 390x on Easter sale for 310.
Probably getting one of these for a machine learning rig. It's mainly text processing, so 8GB should be more than enough. 600$ (though as always it will probably be 600€+ here) is a pretty good deal for a card that is bound to outperform the Titan X.
>>54448026
You might have to tone down some settings but hopefully so
>>54447981
So are you telling me you think the 900 series was the ninth generation?
>>54448022
Actually, is it possible?
I mean, the announced price is 380$ after all.
Im sorry, I cant stop my wishful thinking.
I wish we could get back to prices of 8600 cards and such.
>>54448214
$450 for proper brand cards
>>54448214
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2365
look what i found, doesn't it look familiar to today?
>>54447326
>p-polaris 10 will definitely be better than 1060!
>polaris 10 does worse than 1060
>Nvidia are jews anyway, they'll gimp it later I promsise, AMD's still better
>/g/
>>54448193
Ayy I want to make a ML rig, too, just to get into the whole thing. Not sure if I should pick up a 1080 or a Titan X because I might need the extra 4gb for image processing.
>>54448228
No, I remember how I could buy pretty good card for 400 PLN (~100$) and more powerful than needed for 900 (~225$). Now, 960 cost 900 PLN and 970 - 1500 (~375$, tax not included).
Im afraid to think how much would 970 cost locally.
>>54448212
No. I said ninth series.
>>54448292
1070 I mean.
>>54448267
Painfully familiar.
>>54446886
>$200 gtx 1060 with 980 performance
Dream on, buddy. The 960 barely reached 770 performance, let alone 780 Ti performance. The 1060 will be 970 performance at best, maybe slightly less.
>>54447888
I'll have you know I was a very mature 13 year old.
>>54448292
it's not as bad as you think
1 zloty =17rub
1usd=67rub
1070 will cost 45k
>>54448284
If you're just getting into it a Titan X may be overkill. Current memory issues with neural nets are mainly related either to resolution of the images you're processing or the actual size of the network you're making. Neither of these are problems you're likely to run into when you are starting out, so a 1080 or even a 1070 will still be a pretty good choice.
Okay so Pascal is getting released soon, so it seems like a good time to upgrade.
But what about CPU? Are new intels coming soon or are they already out?
>>54447486
>Founders edition
>>54448344
Yeah, I know that other people have worse situation, doesnt change the fact that mine isnt as good as it could be.
>>54448361
Intel has a Skylel refresh coming up.
AMD has Zen coming up. Hexa- and Octacores this year apparently, quadcores maybe next year
>>54448361
7700k will probably come near octobre, but the more important part is that Zen will also be out by that time.
Rumours so far state that the first zen cpu's will have 8 cores, if AMD finaly managed to get good IPC out of them and they will be decently priced it might be a big upset to the market.
>>54448359
Alright, thanks.
>>54448344
>1070 will cost 45k
I guess you can safely add at least 5k because resellers are jews
>>54448361
Just to note that new hardware comes out effectively every single year. There's always something new on the way.
>>54443697
Foolish advice.
The cost isn't astronomical -- $1200 -- which is what I would spend on great speakers without blinking an eye.
And it is OP's primary hobby, of sorts. This is called letting someone enjoy what they enjoy.
>>54446849
Are you bragging about planned obsolescence? Lol, what in the actual fuck?
>>54446951
Im seriously considering a 1070, but my budget was about $250. Maybe a used 390 if the price drops real, real low. Probably wait for Polaris either way, and hope the lower end nVidia cards aren't too far off. Always enjoy supporting AMD, but I'm always going to buy the best bang for my buck. Which tends to be AMD since I don't go for top end.
>>54448313
Kepler to maxwell wasn't that huge of a performance jump. We're seeing new architecture, a huge die shrink, new backing software. The 1060 could be a powerful budget card.
>>54447212
You literally care more than anyone else here. Stop projecting. And don't samefag.
>>54447298
Yeah, my 2gb 7850 is actually holding on just fine for 1080p at high settings, and both cards heavily OCed trade blows. My body is ready for a new card when I see a great deal, though.
>>54448613
>1080 top tier
>1070 new 980ti
>1060ti rivals 980
>1060 rivals 970
Tfw 1060 costs $200
>>54447298
>eople wouldnt buy new ones, if old are enough, so devs are ecnouraged to increase demands - sometimes in ulgy manner of ignoring optimization.
This is one place I give AMD big kudos, my performance has only gotten better with time. One gen back, and I woulda been dropped though, and the drivers take longer to drop. So not thaaaat much better than nvidia there.
>>54447372
You've never met a truly rich person, have you? They don't get rich dropping money on flagships every year, if they even have the time to consider it.
Now take it easy on your mum's credit.
>>54448663
>1080 ti
40/45% faster than titan x
>1080
25% faster than titan x
>1070
10/15% faster than titan x
>1060 ti
titan x performance ~
>1060
980 performance ~
>>54447042
>node shrink
>rebrand
Wut.
>>54446434
Its so fucked up you typed your sentence incorrectly.
>>54448741
>Still believing there will be a 1080ti
It will be mid 2017 before they can release it and it will probably be branded 1180ti.
just like big Kepler wasn't branded 680ti. They called it 780ti and rebranded the 680 to 770
Will my rig handle it fine? possibly might just go for the 1070 though.
I'll be mostly gaming on a 1080p monitor, but would sometimes hook up to my 4k TV
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>>54447112
>tfw everyone shit on you for waiting and it payed off
>>54448789
AND MINE CAN?
FAGGOT
>>54447486
I'm on the hype train a bit, but that shit is hilarious. They may as well call it the fanboy tax.
>>54448741
>1060
>980 performance
Doubt it, 960 struggles to keep up with the 770 in some games
>>54447862
I've had good luck with evga. They've also honored promotions for free games that came out after I had already bought my card which I thought was cool. Seem like a good company.
>>54448814
calm down there, cunt.
>>54448840
the node drop will help it. also don't forget that the nvidia x60 series always goes up against the amd x80 series. the 480 is predicted to be 390x levels so the 1060 should be around that mark.
>>54443861
Probably should lurk around for a cheap 980ti from a panicking nvidia fanatic. 980 is pretty shit price to performance. Maybe it will dip super low, though. Im weighing just buying a used card for cheap before this hype ends up to be bust. Which I hope it won't.
>>54443771
> .5ghz clock speed increase
> 3 more gb/s bandwidth
> 4 more gb of vram
> New memory type and architecture
> only 600$ for a Titan x basically
> also 200 w tdp
GR8 B8 M8
>>54447918
I pieced together a build with left over parts including a 560, ran a benchmark and picture of it playing League on Craigslist and sold it within a day.
That card is still fine for a lot of people.
>>54448862
AYY LMAO I'M TOO LAZY TO TURN OFF MY CAPS LOCK I'M SCREAMING IN THE 4CC IRC
>>54448269
AMD definitely has longer optimization support, other issues aside. Tend to be cheaper in the budget bracket as well. AMD is a great option for poorfags like myself.
>>54443697
>deserves it
Deserve it when they keep releasing bottom tier tech and performance? No thanks, its cheap indeed but actually quite expensive considering what you get.
>>54448383
Bought a 6600k recently, so some dark spiteful part of me hopes Zen flops even though I want AMD to stay competitive for consumer sake.
>>54448719
>You've never met a truly rich person, have you? They don't get rich dropping money on flagships every year, if they even have the time to consider it.
>>54448719
>Now take it easy on your mum's credit.
>using credit to buy anything
Here's how we do it:
>put some of your money into a steadily accruing, managed fund
>let it grow for ~6 months (until you get at least 6% growth)
>now you have ~$1000 to spend on whatever
>buy shit
>still have the same money left over in your account
>rinse and repeat
Buying on credit is something poorfags do because they're too dumb to figure out how to continually make money with money. I've spent over $5000 over the past 1.5 years and yet I still have the same amount of money in my spending account as when I started.
>>54443736
>implying the 1080 can run 4k properly
>>54446782
If you want a 4k vr rig and can afford it then yes, you can justify it
Source for this, guys?
>>54448837
they're learning from Elon Musk
>>54449157
>until you get at least 6% growth
And the best my bank had to offer was 2,5% yearly.
is it just me or is jensen directly trying to talk like steve jobs
like, not even hiding it anymore
>>54448003
Beautiful!
>>54449314
>And the best my bank had to offer was 2,5% yearly.
That's because I actually MANAGE my own investments, numbnuts. Those savings and investment accounts you open with the banks have to make them money somehow. Plus, you have much more flexibility with your investments on your own than tied with a bank.
>>54449370
Like playing on exchange?
>>54448921
>only 600$ for a Titan x basically
It's more powerful than the Titan x
> also 200 w tdp
180w
Two days ago I saw a thread on /g/ saying the GTX 1080 was slower than the 980 Ti in benchmarks
Is this not true? Was it an AMD shill?
Today a friend messaged me on Skype and said the 1070 is faster than a Titan X, is that true?
I didn't pay attention to them because I believed /g/ and thought they were shit
Fucking AMD shills if that's the case
>>54443819
>not waiting for HMB3
Good goy.
>>54449157
>making fun of someone for being a poorfag
>you feel the need to point out that only poorfags would do that
Do you have compounding interest on your GBP?
>>54449400
Do yourself a favor and learn a bit about personal investments. You'll be glad that you did. It's taken me about 7 years to get to this point with my spending account and I've made my own share of missteps on the way (mostly driven my greed and impatience).
Again, poor people are poor because they're dumb. They make dumb financial decisions that pile up their debt rather than eliminating them and making their money work for them. I haven't bought any computer parts on credit since 2014 and I've spend nearly $5k on them alone.
Imagine paying off that plus the ridiculous APR most credit cards come with (no matter how good your credit score). You can literally buy another GTX 1080 with the money you've saved by not being a financial dumbass.
>>54449448
980 Ti > 980 in SLI
SLI is garbage.
>>54449425
apparently the 1080(stock) is ~25% faster than the 980TI/TitanX(stock)
by that logic the 1070 should be as fast as a 980TI/TitanX
watch @4:55
https://youtu.be/3WnmZwChW_s
>>54449514
I've also seen AMD shills say the 1080 and 1070 do not support DirectX 12, is this true?
>>54449425
>Two days ago I saw a thread on /g/ saying the GTX 1080 was slower than the 980 Ti in benchmarks
There are no user or review benchmarks. The 1080 is probably 25-30% more powerful than the 980ti, but nothing is concrete yet.
>Today a friend messaged me on Skype and said the 1070 is faster than a Titan X, is that true?
It's very likely.
>>54449554
Nvidia claims the new cards are fully capable of Async compute. If it's true, Pascal fully supports DX12. Just wait for actual benchmarks to confirm this. I wouldn't trust Nvidia nor AMD for that matter.
>>54449425
>GTX 1080 was slower than the 980 Ti
>faster clock, approximately the same number of CUDA cores, more memory
Whoever told you that was either a liar or a shill extraordinaire.
>>54449554
>Pascal not support the API Pascal was designed to accommodate
Fun Fact: Maxwell supports more DX12 features than AMD's GCN. It is rated for DX12_1, whereas AMD's GCN only supports DX12_0 feature sets.
You got shilled, m'boy
>>54449554
Fact is nvidia didn't mention dx12 at all yesterday in their presentation, only some Vulcan stuff, thats it.
That video I linked is the only information we have about its dx12 performance.
+we don't know shit if its async compute is software based or not so the only thing we can do is wait.
>>54449554
It supports the the highest level DX12_1
Jury is still out on whether it has hardware async compute
>>54449465
I had no idea what are you talking about, pasted that term in duckduckgo and it looks kinda like buying and selling stocks at exchange.
Those are huge risk in Poland.
>>54449465
As long as you religiously pay off all charges each billing cycle, you're actually doing yourself a favor. Especially if you get cashback or some shit. Once you start paying interest, you're fucking up.
>>54449615
I feel like nvidia is the evil party, and AMD is the stupid party.
So should I do an entirely new bulld for a 1080, or wait for the 1080ti to come out? I currently have a 670/3570k build.
>>54449757
Stocks are just one of many many investment options. I personally prefer them over other investment options, but the market has been absolute shit for the past few months. I've only accrued about half the amount so far that I earned in the same period last year. FOREX isn't any better, although I have been getting slightly better growth from there since March. I'm shorting the Saudi Riyal soon. It's bound to make up for the slow growth this year.
>>54449791
Most people don't do that. They use credit to buy shit they can't afford to pay off right then and there and it accumulates. Getting out of that loop requires patience and discipline, of which many people seem to lack these days. I had to run a Core2Duo for about four years until my spending account could pay for a substantial upgrade. Even now, that computer is still my daily driver for checking e-mails, browsing, and playing flash games.
>>54449757
He probably isn't if he insn't spewing bullshit. It's a terrible time to try and game the market. Be better off with CDs and bonds these days, for fuck's sake.
>>54448893
And always loses, lel
380 blows the 960 out of the fucking water
>>54449844
What display do you have?
>>54446596
It's to push the idea that to play gaymes @ 1080p you must have atleast a gtx1080
>>54443697
>AMD needs money
>AMD get huges benefetis from consoles
>AMD graphics are presente on all current consoles
Stop this, AMD are the jews too
>>54449903
A 1080p Dell (U2312HM) and a 1440p asus. Probably gonna get rid of one of them and get a nice 4k monitor soon though. Also interested in doing VR as soon as HTC or Oculus get their shit together.
>>54449888
>380 blows the 960 out of the fucking water
3-5 fps on average is equivalent to being blown out of the water lmao. get a load of this guy.
>>54449888
I've heard the 380 is a bit of an anomaly, doing ultra at 1080p in some games and almost rock bottom in others.
>>54449875
>bonds
They don't grow fast enough for me. They're definitely a better long term investment over stocks, but I'd need about three times as much in 1-year bonds than I have in my accounts right now in order to have $500 to spend every 6 months. They also aren't flexible at all, once you buy into them, you're practically stuck with them until they pay off.
Plus, there are times where investing in bonds can lead to negative short-term growth overall (like back in early 2014).
>>54449944
Since when did landing a contract fairly make you a jew?
>>54449958
No that's just AMD in general
Some select games are competitive, but in most others (especially less known ones and betas) it's complete shit performance
>>54443697
>Support a co
I'm not going to buy a lesser product, just because of muh feelings.
>>54449964
They are pretty severely lacking in liquidation. The real money is in real estate in landlord friendly states, but you need a wad for that if you're just starting out. It's why you can't buy a house for a reasonable price anywhere nice anymore, everyone is just renting them out.
A family friend made modest money and saved up, moved to a nicer house 4 times, rented out all the old ones instead of selling them. He's a branch chief now, so doing alright, and it's not making him filthy rich, but the rent income is just cherries on top.
>>54449791
for building your credit score you actually want to pay off ~80% of the balance each month, then pay it off back to 0 before it becomes to much of a burden and start over.
>>54449983
I honestly feel its the opposite. AMD cards do well to great except in games with "Gamewerks: tesselate EVERYTHING."
>>54450026
New York City is the absolute worst when it comes to investing in real estate. The City literally Jews the living fuck out of you if you're a "poor" land-owner. I had enough to buy a modest house in Queens, but after hearing the horror stories from other renters, I decided that shit was not worth it.
To give you a perspective - one of my friends rented a unit in a three-family apartment to a Pakistani family. They haven't paid him in two years and they've been able to stave off eviction because of the incredibly renter-biased courts. He is legally obligated to provide them with hot water, gas, and all the other amenities despite them not paying him a cent. They're costing him so much that at this rate, he will have to sell the property in order to avoid outright bankruptcy, but the court will not let him without having him jump through a few more hoops due to the ongoing eviction case.
>>54449981
the moment you sign
>>54443380
> $600 (or $700 for ultra-cucks) for a card with less bandwidth than a 980 Ti
> this could in no way have any negative performance implications
If you thought 980 owners got cucked, you ain't seen nothing yet.
>>54450105
>980 owners
What about the poor fucks that fell for the 780?
>>54450105
>i enjoy rebrands
the post
>>54450144
no, I'm a Kepler owner who's tasting the driver fuckage that all the Maxwell folk will start getting any month now.
>>54446790
i've never overclocked my card (HD 5870 1gb) and it's still going 5 years later(have cleaned the dust from the fan a few times but that's it)
Any word on dimensions or power requirements?
>>54450260
~180W
>>54450260
700mm
5kw
>>54450105
>>54450129
>>54450205
there are two distinct ways to get fucked by Nvidia.
the first and most traditional is just to own a card long enough that they quit putting any effort into driver optimizations, so even more powerful older cards get slapped around by weaker new ones (e.g., 670 vs. 960).
the other way is to by the top end product of a new generation like the 980 or Titan X (and likely 1080) instead of going for the 2nd place 970 or 980 Ti, but you only have yourself to blame here.
>>54450205
i have maxwell currently but i would still never consider amd. i upgrade my whole pc every 2 years or so anyway, so these kind of issues never affect me. going to buy a 1070 in december.
>>54449465
>Again, poor people are poor because they're dumb
You sir, are a priviliged fool.
Poor people are risk averse, for obvious reasons. Debt is accrued by the poor to meet basic living costs, not to fund an extravagant lifestyle.
Credit is cheap for a reason: it is profitable to make a loan. I'm guessing you are unable to comprehend this fact.
Stay on /pol/, kep away from grown-up boards.
today i seen a used gtx titan for 400 usd, should i get it?
>>54446866
970, duh. it's like 580 higher than a 390
>>54450432
If it's a titan X then yes, otherwise no.
I just bought a fury X /g/. It was ~425 euros. Sold my 7990 to do so. It's an extremely pleasant card to own. It runs at only 60 degrees and is pretty fast.
Did i fuck up? I realize it's be fore a genereation change but with etherium i sold my 7990 for 2x what i bought it for and i could probably sell the fury for ~400 euros once VEGA comes out.
How can a blower style reference design be worth $100 more than custom designs?
Either the reference design is massively overpriced or the $599 MSRP is a lie and no cards in that price range will actually make it to market.
>>54450243
my point? well my pc looks like a bag of nails lol so no you can't always judge a book by it's cover
>>54450576
Hint: it's the latter
>>54448003
Damn that looks good...
>>54450404
>Debt is accrued by the poor to meet basic living costs
What about Shaniqua and Tyrone buying a $3000 SmartTV when they're living on food stamps? Or even worse, Shaniqua and Tyrone RENTING a $3000 SmartTV for $100 a month?
Poor people tend to stay poor because of poor planning and financial decisions. They take debt in order to sustain a lifestyle that they can't sustain. I see poor college kids spending $300 on a PS4 or Xbox One when they have over a grand in credit card debt. Rather than paying off that credit card debt, they consciously decide to go against their financial interest and accrue more debt for their own sake. Rather than investing a small amount into making themselves more profitable (like going to a trade school or pursuing certifications that will help them earn more money), the vast majority of poor people purchase personal luxuries in the fruitless pursuit of living the big life.
Staying poor is a choice.
>You sir, are a priviliged fool.
It's "privileged", and I don't consider growing up with a single-mother as growing up with privilege. I earned my wealth by avoiding the same debt traps and pitfalls that she made when she raised me.
Also
>Credit is cheap
This is why you're poor.
>>54450576
It is latter as the name suggests. 599 priced will be available some time during the fall maybe.
>>54446704
>buy 1070
>upgrade to 1080
retard detected!
cheaper to buy SLI 1070 in that case and better performance, also new cards will be out by then
>>54450669
> I earned my wealth by avoiding...
You were gifted your "wealth".
>What about Shaniqua and Tyrone buying a $3000 SmartTV...
Idiot.
>This is why you're poor.
Companies make money on loans, but, not via interest payments.
You have absolutely no idea how this works...
>>54450490
>580
That's hot.
>>54450814
>You were gifted your "wealth"
Last time I checked, the only "wealth" I was gifted was $20k in loans and credit card debt that I shared with my mother. I didn't start accumulating wealth until I paid all of it off.
>You have absolutely no idea how this works
>implying that taking a loan of $500 for a graphics card and paying interest on it is better than not spending $500 on a graphics card, investing the money instead, and building your wealth until you can afford two of the motherfucker a year from gains alone
I wasn't talking about the credit card companies when I said that. I was talking about your mindset. Never consider buying on credit a "cheap" option, no matter how low the interest rate. If you can't afford to pay for it right then and there, then don't fucking buy it.
If you can't understand that, then you're a lost cause.
>rich guy has nothing better to do than shitpost on 4chan about poor people
Yeah okay buddy
>>54450925
Keep voting for Sanders, you poor white cuck.
>>54450869
>Last time I checked, the only "wealth"...
You're a lying cunt.
>>54450934
Keep being delusional about your status in this world :^)
>>54450950
And how would you know? Are you me?
Is it so hard to believe that a half-white, half-black kid struggled his way into a decent job, taking a second job just to pay off his outstanding debt, and eventually saved enough to open a nice little fund to pay for frivolities without using his personal income for once?
Is "personal sacrifice" so foreign a concept to you Berncucks? This is why normal people lean towards Hillary, it's because you fucking dumb white cucks think "free shit" is actually free. We know better.
>>54451005
>Is it so hard to believe that a half-white, half-black kid struggled his way into a decent job, taking a second job just to pay off his outstanding debt, and eventually saved enough to open a nice little fund to pay for frivolities without using his personal income for once?
here's something you're forgetting: those 'decent jobs' don't exist to you unless you came of age before the recession. there is an entire generation of unemployable people right now.
>>54451084
>minimum 3 years experience required for every entry job
I hate to be le wrong generation, but fuck. Wish I could cash in on some nepotism or grow a vagina or become ethnic.
>>54451084
>those 'decent jobs' don't exist to you unless you came of age before the recession.
>there is an entire generation of unemployable people right now.
Then an entire generation made the mistake of going to a liberal arts college, getting a worthless degree, and taking out loans to pay for said worthless degree rather than going to trade school or working an apprenticeship. I got lucky by getting a scholarship to pay off most of my college expenses and understanding early on that a degree is just a piece of paper unless you have experience to back it up. While you white Berncucks were smoking dope in your dorms, I was working internships and a late-night shift as an online marketer. I used that money to pay off my mother's credit card bills and pay for a variety of certifications that would have added a few thousand dollars to my salary down the line.
I know high school dropout plumbers who make more money than the average Starbucks barista with a Masters in English (and who the fuck would even want a Masters in English?). You made your choice. Either change course and make some sacrifices, or stay in poverty.
>>54451005
Fuck off you sack of shit.
>>54451164
i'm not the guy you were replying to, i don't support bernie and i didn't go in for liberal arts. millions of people are unemployable because there is no opportunity (because employers are hiring niggers and indians because of diversity quotas and H1B). lying and making excuses about it won't change that fact when these people are kicking down your door in order to eat.
>>54446704
> 1070 faster than a Titan X
What even proves this? The NVidia slides? The awesome 6.5 TFlops it moves (7 for the Titan X, 8 for the R9 390X)? It may be slightly faster in VR but I don't see how that can be real in standard games. Just waiting for benchmarks to hit, no fucking way I'm believing those fucking graphs with no measure unit.
>>54443380
Is this a meme product? Are nvidia cards just memes now?
>>54451196
>millions of people are unemployable because there is no opportunity
Figure out why you're not finding any opportunities and fix it. That's not an excuse, there is always a demand somewhere in the market. There will never be a point in society where people won't need a specific trade or service.
>wah, but i'm a white male
You're own fault. You took advantage of us, and now you reap what you sowed for over a century. I'm not shedding a single tear for any of you.
>>54449955
Ok, 380 on average beats the 960
380x blows it out of the water. Doesn't really matter though since you can grab a 960 for $150; it's certainly the best budget card
>>54451270
only if you have an i7. the 960, especially once OCed, beats out both the 380 and 380x because of AMD's crippling driver overhead.
>>54451270
I hear ya. I'm actually building a while new skylake rig to replace my full AMD one but keeping the 290x. I can't wait to get a 10% gpu performance boost with it
That being said, here's my source for the low range gpu comparisons
https://youtu.be/vJpy9hlfIkA
>>54451409
Oops, didn't mean to reply to myself. Meant for
>>54451327(you)
Buy 1070 - wait for 1080ti. Sell 1070 - buy 1080ti. No need for overpriced 1080.
>>54446614
Which is the 7970?
4 years in a row
>>54451730
7970 is 280x
285, 380/x are Tonga which are a quarter generational leap from the Tahiti card you have
As for me I upgraded from the 7950 to the 290x. Been happy so far. However I'm gonna wait even longer for my next upgrade; right now I can get witcher 3 60fps 1440p with compromises. I'll upgrade when I can get witcher 3 4k 60fps no compromises
>>54443697
>deserves it
maybe if they made better products i'd buy them
free market fucker
>>54445811
>not 3.5 turns
Get rekt
>>54449958
I have a 380 4gb and it's alright. Its spent the same amount on a 560ti shortly after it came out but the 380 won't last me this long that's for sure.
>>54447296
Continue that pattern to enable you to get the quality X80Ti/X90-X cards instead of doing bottom end cards every time, you get cream of the crop.
>>54447486
Yeah, I'm getting a 1080 but I'm waiting for a non-faggot edition like an OC or Super Clocked edition from ASUS or MSI
Could my rig handle 1070 ?
>>54448026
Well considering 2160p is 4k....
>>54446782
Well seeing as how no current VR technologies are 4k, you cant really...
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