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GTX 1080 is announced! Costs $600! Cheaper than 980ti and absolutely blows it's socks off.
Glad I waited. Cause I'm getting this one.
1070 is around $400 apparently. Faster than the Titan X.
>$600
>$400
Literally taking a massive dick up the ass just to play gaymes.
Kill yourself.
>>54439879
Someone's poor.
>>54439845
Not paying that much but prices will drop anyways. I wait some more.
>>54439908
/g/ default answer to everything
(you) you get one and only one. Be sure to troll harder.
>>54439922
But he is right.
Some of you fags spend hundreds of dollars on placebo headphones, yet get mad at people spending hundreds on superior hardware.
>>54439879
I would say 4 TitanXs to play 4K is a "massive dick up the ass". I'm dropping around 2.5K to upgrade after 10 years. It's valid.
>>54439908
And I'm not rich either. I just saved up.
Just because you're not running to the shelves anytime a company announces something shiny doesn't mean you're poor.
>>54439909
You could. My current rig is a E5300 with a GT730 and 3(2+1) gigs of RAM. I gotta upgrade ASAP.
>>54439845
>canada
>not waiting for the TI
enjoy being a beta-tester though
>>54439845
>more expensive than 970/980 on launch
literally being suckered in, goy
>>54439879
>mfw ausfag
>mfw 900-1000aud for a 1080
>>54440037
THIS is the important point.
>>54439879
I'm sure you waist money in other ways, like beers and cigarettes
>>54440034
>>54440037
So I should get the 980ti? Why would I spend more for a weaker card?
>>54440054
jokes on you i do neither. /thread rip gg!
>>54440050
shit thats not bad considering 980 were over a grand
>>54440066
no wait for the 1080ti to come out, so the price drops a little on the other ones.
If you don't have a 4k display or vr why does it matter?
>>54440084
No the Titan and TI are over a grand
Pretty pissed off nobody is taking pre orders
Newegg
PCCG
none of them
Anyone know when Pascal masterrace chips will come into laptops?
Maybe some Pascal mobile versions.
I've heard that power management is excellent.
>>54440026
4000 croatian kuna
+ 25% Vat
5000 kunas
yeah, I'm gonna wait for amd.
>>54440109
>amd
We will be lucky to get 980Ti level of performance
the 1080 reference non oc is almost TWICE that
>>54439879
>people waste money on things I don't care about
>Why is everyone but me so fucking stupid lmao
>>54440086
Because my current rig is a E5300 with a GT730 and 3(2+1) gigs of RAM. I gotta upgrade ASAP. I was already going to get a 980ti in a few days. 1080 is cheaper. And better.
How much longer do I gottta wait for the 10xx ti?
Wew lad 5% more powerful in certain applications than a properly configured 980ti, sure is worth $599 dolarry-doos.
1.5 year lifespan, 7.5gb vram, no asynch. THE WAY ITS MEANT TO BE PLAYED
when is amd's conference for their new card?
>>54440026
Why can't they release the 460 at the same time? I need to upgrade soon, but even the 970's price is pretty steep. I hope polaris has some good $200-300 CAD GPUs, otherwise I'm gonna have to shell out considerably more than I want for a 970...
Has AMD said when they're gonna announce specs and prices?
>>54440132
Will anyone come there?
>>54440123
If the 1080 is too expensive for him he's probably not aiming for 1080-level performance.
>>54440127
Alright, you make a good point. So I should just get the 980ti?
I'd rather get 1070 is that's the case. It's cheaper and slightly better. Or same justification for not getting it?
Can't wait for the backpedaling and the tears when the real benchmarks come out and it's mediocre, like usual.
Before you call me, I have two tear buckets, one red, one green.
>founders version
You have to be a stupid fuck to buy that. It's what, 150$ over the 3rd party versions?
Anyway, wait for amd before buying anything. If nothing else, it'll force nvidia to lower prices.
>>54440123
I'm not actually a gamer. I just want to upgrade my 5770 and buy a 4k monitor.
obviously I want to buy a next gen card, but not for that price.
>>54440149
i just want to know the date
>>54440150
in alot of games the Fury barely catches up with the 980Ti and Now the 490x is meant to be between the fury and the 390x
Count me out i think AMD just got btfo
unless they actually offer this new 490x at $300 and it doesnt get stomped by the 1070 i might get it
>>54439879
I agree people take the big giant D for games and it's fucking retarded. The retarded are the true cancer killing video games and the pc world in general. I'll be happy when it bites them in the ass later.
>>54440170
>"in alot of Nvidia optimised games benchmarked at 1080p the Fury equals a 980ti"
Fixed for you.
>>54440186
oh in DX12 games the Titan even gets rekt
>>54440139
Become a trap.
>>54440139
>460
I meant 1060
>>54440165
Doubtful
Or you are saying to wait until Vegas cards, which is stupid.
Polaris 11 is lowend and Polaris 10 is middle range card.
Why would anyone spend more than 1k on a pc to play fucking video games?
>>54440211
Rumors place them at 980ti levels.
Just wait a month, like you have to anyway because God knows when the 3rd party boards of 1080 and 1070 drop.
>>54440212
back to your xbone filthy peasant
>>54440212
Because it does games and alot of other stuff.
Why do people spend 1k or a 4k tv?
Why do people spend 1k on a PS4 and a PS4 Neo
Why do people even spend money? Lets just become farts and float around lule
>>54440212
Because they spent 1 k for video games. Are you dumb?
>>54440212
Alright, what's a good rig under 1K?
>>54439980
this.
>>54440179
>Being able to play Skyrim with 8K textures and the most beautiful ENBs and with minimal loading screens @1440p60.
I'm sure nobody wants that...
Anyone know when AMD is gonna talk about their GPU's? or are they gonna take months to do it?
Gonna jump on the 1070 from a 970, feels worth it.
Also how much vRAM is the 1070 gonna have?
>>54440228
>rumors
Nope, 980ti level is absolute high end level.
And AMD won't replace their high end series with Fiji chips until Vegas.
Makes absolutely no sense, if they release a card as fast and faster than the Furies and keep saying the Fury will stay.
That said, I will buy whatever card that has the best performance-powerdraw-price ratio for 2k resolution.
When are the AMD cards going to be revealed?
>>54440272
>Anyone know when AMD is gonna talk about their GPU's?
Computex may 31st
Their too poorfag to launch their own conference.
>>54440306
i think it's just nvidia shills here so they don't know when. i've asked the same question in 5 different threads 7 times and no one responds
>>54440272
GTX 1070 has 8GB GDDR5. The 1080 has 8GB GDDR5X. Don't know how much difference the X will make but you can use 8K textures with 8gigs.
>>54440326
Because AMD hasnt made a good GPU since t he 290x 8gb and its a housefire along with the 390x
They gimped the Fury with 4GB instead of offering a 8GB GDDR5 version
>>54440109
>>Paid my PC about 6700kn
>>most games 1080p max
>>i5 6500 & gtx 960 msi gaming
Hopefully 1070 will be more affordable.
>>54440326
See>>54440315
Being on the winning team is not "shilling". The 480x will be 980Ti teir. The 1080 outperforms it by twice as much.
>>54440092
The titan and TI are slower than this and draw much more power...
>>54440351
This i mean there really is no contest.
I usually back the winner and in 2013 that was AMD
Now its clearly the 1080
Even IF AMD somehow manage to pull a fury level performing card out of their ass for $300 its still 1/2 the power of a 1080
>>54440359
No shit
Was going to get a 970 in July but looks like I'll be getting a 1070 instead.
>>54440338
you have a source?
>>54440315
ty
>>54440384
>you have a source?
watch the fucking conference
>>54440384
http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-gtx-1080/
>>54439980
Headphones aren't outdated in 12 months max.
>double node shrink
>people still think that 25% increase in speed is somehow good
These are sad times indeed.
>>54440397
thanks
I read somewhere that the specs for the 1070 were not out yet, that's why I was skeptical.
>>54440395
Link to conference?
>>54440054
>waist
You'll reach a wider audience if you shill elsewhere.
>>54440419
https://www.youtube.com/user/nvidia/videos
>>54440405
Don't forget that most of that is just higher clocks.
>>54440348
it will be about 3000 kn. similar to the 970 which is about 2800 kn.
Its too much IMO, hope AMD goes below 2000.
>spends $600 on a video card
>gets promised good performance
>has to cap games at 60fps because 90% of them have graphic glitches
Meanwhile
>buys amd card
>plays the same game at 60fps
Prove me wrong neckbeards
As a person who has never played games on his PC. Can the 1080 run games in 4k without any lag?
>>54440459
You mean at a stable framerate? Cause lag could mean many things.
Wait for the benchmarks. If you see above 40fps performances, it's good to go.
>>54440459
>lag
Uh sure buddy, don't forget to buy the founders edition.
>>54440459
If you overclock it Yes.
Stock clocks it would be scraping low 60's
As you saw during the paragon demo with a single character on screen it barely got 60fps
DX12 performance is unknown but if Vulkan was anything to go by it should be quite good.
That said we really need proper benchmarks as nobody is going to run the reference cards
>>54440162
Yup, cant believe people fall for the marketing "slides" performace everytime.
hurrr duuur but litography !!!!
fuck off new litography is meant to jew you out over the years, they will sell you shitty little chips for the usual 15 - 20% performance gain with the 1st generation just as they did ever before while they can jerk off on Maldives for a year then release proper/bigger chips for a free (for them) new generation.
>>54440458
>>54440459
Depends on what settings, if on low more than likely yeah, most games actually.
>>54440532
Bad goy! There's nothing you can do about it, stay quiet.
>>54440496
Yes... yes...
>>54440126
Here's a little tip for you; its not your graphics card holding you back as much as you think it is - having a decade old CPU doesn't help in the slightest.
>frametimes
>AMD
ayyy
Same with the R9 380X, with average fps it looks good, but it has massive glitches, in game stuttering due to sudden drop.
>>54440459
Not a chance. Not even two 980 Tis can
>>54440583
I know, jackass. I meant a 4790K/980ti build. Instead I'm getting the 1070. Save some shekels.
>>54440516
fps doesn't mean much nowadays anyway. Framedrops and frame latency are in.
>>54440598
Why do people pay money for this? I'd buy a 960 before a Fury X
Does this device make games more intellectually stimulating?
Will my OC'd (4.2 ghz) phenom II 1100t black edition bottleneck a standard gtx 1080?
>>54439879
>buy 150 dollar card works for 5years
>buy a 400-600 dollar card works for 6 and maybe 7 if your lucky
kek stupidity has a price tag
>>54439980
>Some of you fags spend hundreds of dollars on placebo headphones
>tfw my $400 headphones are still going strong after nearly ten years
>>54439845
I'm only going to buy a new GPU if VR headsets and VR porn are cheap and mainstream. I only play CSgo anyways.
>>54440662
yea...
just check out steam hardware stats
most people are rocking GTX560 / 660 / 760 / 960 tops and thats what the devs are making games for. No point in making games that wont run properly for 90% of your customer base.
All those "ultra" settings for the expensive cards are just a placebo anyways, you can barely tell a difference.
>>54440598
http://wccftech.com/gears-of-war-pc-benchmarks-with-latest-patch/
>>54440165
I'll buy it, but I'm also claiming a tax deduction on it because "work" pc so the cost doesn't bother me. Will be a massive upgrade from me SLI 780s anyway and hopefully overclocks nice so I can wring some more from it later on.
>>54440598
okay, darker line is fury x and it has less jumps than lighter line, are you trying to prove you can't read graphs?
>>54440459
No. That amount of crude power will come in 2018 maybe.
>>54439845
>Glad I waited. Cause I'm getting this one.
HBM2 card is coming out next year, buy GDDR5X now instead, kek, enjoy!
>>54440708
>tfw when rocking a 660 for almost 4 years
>tfw when DS3 runs perfectly
>tfw when i know i won't have to switch for another 2~3 years
>>54440768
Wow
>>54440708
>All those "ultra" settings for the expensive cards are just a placebo anyways
LOL.
Keep telling yourself that.
>>54440270
>rim with 8K textures and the most beautiful ENBs
and all those REALLY smooth realistic looking sex animation by loverslab OMGZ totally worth it!!!
>>54440848
damn I sure do love me some SS13
>>54440459
maybe in 1080 SLI if you really mean stable 60fps 4k gta 5 on ultra.
>>54440814
>bait
>>54440848
What game is it?
>>54439845
>Actually costs $700
>Nvidia doesn't share benchmarks because it's only marginally faster
This is Nvidia's worst GPU launch in a long time.
>>54440814
>GPU if VR headsets and VR porn are cheap and mains
some are some aren't. whats the point of the game if not enjoying it on ultra? go back to minecraft!
>>54440814
search any AAA game from the past 3 years on google : "game high vs ultra" or "game medium vs ultra" open any article or video, check out the comments: 99% of the comments are lmao cant tell the difference
but keep living in your choice-supportive bias dream
>>54440917
>SS13
this, the new cards will have 10-15 fps gain max. the 2x 4x "faster charts" are about some shenanigan tests that wont mean shit for demanding games.
>>54440772
You have to buy at some time anon. HBM2 may be coming out next year, but something even better will be coming out a year after that. Then something better every single year.
>>54440399
If you replaced your headphones to be on the bleeding edge of technology, they would be.
I'm still playing 60fps on 1080p on a card designed in 2011.
>>54440956
Haha. Sure.
The reality is, every comment is some faggot asking if they can run it.
If you blindly believe comments over actually seeing it... Bravo.
But please, show me this game that has no difference.
I still have a GTX 670 and I'm not planning on upgrading to a 4K or a 120/144Hz monitor anytime soon.
Should I bother waiting for the 1070/1080/Polaris or rather just try to grab a cheap used 970/980/980 Ti? I feel like I won't need the extra performance of the GP104 cards in the near future anyway.
>>54440459
The only information we have now about the 1080p 'ascal is that there is nothing it can not do.
>>54441108
first, completely random result I found:
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/19402/battlefield-hardline-ultra-vs-low-graphics-pc-screenshots-compared-not-many-differences-found/
its even ultra vs low lol
no way you can tell a difference without pausing teh game and analysing shadows by pixels or something.
>>54441125
I'd get a 970 for like 100 bucks in 3 weeks
>>54441108
If i mismatched the settings labels you would probably spend minutes sorting them and probably still get them in the wrong order. In a live game (not screenshots you have time to analyze) you cant tell a difference in high vs ultra in practically every game.
All these /v/ermins ITT, jesus christ.
Where my gpu render bros at
>>54441150
DELETE
>>54441206
You can't ignore the truth anon.
I'm toying with the idea of getting a 1070, maybe a 1080. What kind of power supply am I going to need for this kind of power?
>>54440050
>tfw new zealand
what do I even do
I'm stuck with a bloody 660 and fuck if I'm willing to drop a thousand on a graphics card yet nothing else seems worth it at a lower price range. Do I just buy AMD?
>>54441226
430w
>>54441257
84w cpu + 180w gpu
ehh buy whatever gaming brand overkill psu you want goyim
>>54441263
wew lad
>>54441289
I stuck with good ol' regular seasonic overkill. 650w for my 760 and 4570. When I was doing research to build my first PC 3 years ago, I read that a low quality/insufficient wattage PSU could potentially fry every component. I didn't want to take even the slightest risk.
>>54441246
It should only be about $550-600 for the 1070, but i bet all my local stores will amp the price up to about $800
>>54441325
Well the 980 ti is > $1k here so I'd imagine even in the 1070 is going to be disgustingly high priced.
>>54441246
Least you kiwis have better net, right?
>tfw stuck paying more for adsl2 then what people pay for nbn....
>>54441349
On adsl it's just as shit but yeah our fiber is aight. $95 nzd a month for acceptable speeds.
>>54441223
I've wasted so much money.
>>54441226
500w recommended by Nvidia.
>>54441150
This seems cherrypicked as fuck
I agree the difference between ultra and high is often negligible but the difference between low and high more than often is very visible
>>54441302
> i read uneducated fear mongering drivel so i bought a higher wattage psu instead of focusing on efficiency curves and real numbers
good work
remember valve shipped all their beta custom steam machines (i7 + 980) with 430w psu's
>>54441436
Between that and the upwards of 100w discrepancies between the various free wattage calculators out there? Yeah, I just said fuck it and went for overkill.
>>54439845
What kind of dummy is going to buy an nvidia card when AMD is murdering them now?
>>54439879
That's like half a paycheck for most people. Get a job.
>>54439845
>months ago
>got a rad deal on a new 980ti
>1080 announced the day after
I'll still use my 980ti because I got such a good deal on it, but god-damn was that a kick in the head.
>>54440598
Jesus christ
It seems the GoW is hitting the 4gb vram
so much for 4gb is enough meme because ive had 4gb since 2013 and i can assure you guys its not enough.
>>54440626
Thats all down to drivers and the games themselves
>>54441468
>AMD
>murdering based Nvidia
The amount of power needed to run one of those cheap AMD cards would be enough to power a small village for weeks, the heat produced would be enough to provide that same village with a steel mill.
>>54441478
Don't forget that people not living with their parents need to worry about rent, bills, food, and gas if they drive.
>>54441478
>bad bait
>default insult
(you)
>>54441616
they've often learned how to save money, too
fuck, set aside ten bucks a week for a year and you've almost got enough
that's like skipping one tendies meal a week
>>54440644
LOL of course it will you fucking idiot that would bottleneck a GTX 480
>>54441150
>Hardline
Who cares literally the worst DICE game ever made
>>54441246
Idk we should kill ourselves
Gonna import from newegg most likely
>>54441696
But that wasnt made by Dice tho
>>54440848
sauce?
>>54441696
>Gonna import from newegg most likely
Won't customs charge you a shit load? How does that even work?
>>54441720
For a $500 card?
Doesnt it take affect in July?
>>54441744
http://www.customs.govt.nz/features/internetshopping/pages/default.aspx
>>54441720
Yeah its under $1000 i dont have to pay anything.
Guess ill be importing a 1070 or 490 then :(
>>54441765
Im in Aus mate
>>54441778
>we should kill ourselves
>we
>australia
um
>>54441790
>Implying there is a difference between AU and NZ
Ones a small shithole
the other is a larger shithole
Shithole = Shithole
???
not going to buy these, it's the first revision of new tech and aimed for the VR hype, the next gen is going to be much better for less the price
>>54441806
Uh yeah, they're both different countries. Imports cost barely shit all and Aus retailers don't drive your prices up by 30-50% whenever they feel like it. I'm from aus, I just live in NZ, an imported $400 card will end up costing you a good $550 at least. So given context I'd say australia certainly is less of a shithole
>>54441806
>ameeridumb
>calling anywhere else a shithole
kek, KEK, K-E-K
>>54441678
doubt it. the 480 isnt really powerful at all. a stock 955 would bottleneck it but a well ocd 1100t should be enough.
>>54441837
IM AUSSIE DICKHEAD
>>54441838
OC doesnt matter a shit on a fucking 1100t its IPC is so low
>>54441832
Yeah thats nuts.
>>54441850
>hating your own country
Get the fuck out cunt
>>54441436
PSU are most efficient at approximately 50% load. Are you retarded?
>>54441838
>a well ocd 1100t should be enough.
That really is not going to do much of anything
why would you even assume clock speed matters at all
>>54439845
I'll probably upgrade to 2x 1080's in SLI, they're badass and I've been waiting for a card that can power 4k gaming at high settings at 60fps and my 980 isn't cutting it.
Really impressed with Nvidia this round it's the first time we've seen 2x performance jump probably since the GTX 8800 era.
>>54441868
You seem retarded. Promptly kill yourself.
>>54441868
hahaha that's the most idiotic thing ive read today
>>54441868
>2x performance jump
oh boy you are in for a surprise when independent benchmarks come out
>>54439879
what are you even on about poorfag
a 290x/390x is like what, $300 (maybe outdated pricing)
a 1070 is $400 and shits all over anything by amd
>>54441868
>twin 1080's
LOL why not just wait for the 1080 ti it will blow this one out of the water.
Fuck sake you have a 980 jsut keep it
>4K meme
WEW
>>54440005
with a $2.5k budget for a pc you could easily get a top-tier gpu
if you cheap out and pay like $150 for a gpu, you don't even get your money's worth, it's not even better than a quite old gpu
>>54441858
PSUs are horribly inefficient at low load, so if you buy some 700W PSU for a 400W peak load system you are wasting large amounts of electricity
I'm leaving the US next week so I won't be here when the new cards are released. GPUs are approximately 2-3x more expensive where I live.
Is it stupid to buy a 980ti now to upgrade from my 280x?
>>54441896
>more bait
this is to easy to spot now.
>>54441937
Yes
>>54441940
kill yourself idiot
so an $800 iPhone is ok but a $400 gpu is not? who the fuck are you to judge anyway, nice sour grapes
>>54441955
>so an $800 iPhone is ok but a $400 gpu is not?
who even mentioned iphones
>>54441943
well then, guess I'll save my cash
>>54441963
>/g/ - phones and gaymen
>>54441896
AMD is announcing new GPUs literally the week before the 1070 comes out.
>>54441878
>>54441890
No actual argument, discarded,
>>54441894
Sure I'm willing to see if they're accurate or not, given the node shrink being unprecedented in size I don't see why not, we'e seen jumps like that in that.
>>54441901
The premiums on the Ti and TitanX like parts are so high especially in the UK that it's really just more cost effective to do something like 980 SLI or 1080 SLI this round.
4k isn't a meme, game look fucking amazing on a 4k IPS 32" monitor, it's just the top 5% or so of games require you to drop out of ultra settings to get a good enough frame rate.
>>54441924
Your image proves my point. Efficiency that matters most is during load since it can consume anywhere between 4-6x idle wattage. 700W for 400W load is pretty much a sweet-spot in terms of efficiency. It all depends on how one is going to use it and proper considerations should be taken regardless.
>>54441924
>he is afraid of running out of electricity
oh wow how does it feel to live in Africa?
>tfw patiently waiting with my 780ti on 1440p for a single gpu that can power 4k
Comfy as fuck, SLI and CF setups are dogshit so I won't resort to those. Perhaps the big Pascal gpu or vega gpu's will do it
>>54441943
It's not though if GPUs cost literally 2-3x. Buy a 980ti and sell your GPU in your shithole to break even.
>>54442001
i'd avoid going multi-gpu unless you're going for something top-tier like 1080 SLI, i wouldn't recommend 980 SLI, "buy a single high-end gpu" isn't a meme
>>54440622
Get skylake/kabby lake and the 1080. It'll be whats out that meets yours goals. Maxwell is ancient history now.
>>54441995
the claimed perf increase is ludicrous, i doubt amd can even match it, and amd has shit driver support anyway
>>54442013
a 80 Plus Gold PSU is certified 87% efficient from 20% all the way up to 100% load, but if you buy a 700W PSU you have to consume at least 140W to reach that efficiency level. Since your PC is consuming less than 100W 90% of the time your PSU is only running at 75% efficiency or worse
>>54442042
Yeah that's what I mean, i'll likely get 1080 SLI, a single card will be fast for sure but 4k is a hard res to push and ideally I'd like to be running things like GTAV maxed out.
Plus it's a great long term investment for gaming, that set up will last 3-4 years easily, plus I can flog my current 980 to put towards the cost so works out pretty good overall.
>>54442100
>PC hardware
>long term investment
neverobsoletepc.jpg
>>54439845
I'm blown away.
There's no way in hell AMD is going to match that. Hopefully they win over the price/performance crowd again but all things considered, $600 for that is worth it. I'm going to hold off until I see some real-world testing though
>>54441901
>4k a meme
Did you ever hold a 110 Pixels per inch phone next to a 400 ppi one?
Did you notice the difference is sharpness is really apparent?
Right now most FHD monitors are on ~100 ppi, QHD monitors are like ~120 ppi.
So we still have a long way to go before increasing resolution on monitors becomes a meme
>>54440459
I played Mass Effect 1-3 on 4k with my 670 ;)
>>54442127
Amd won't match it, at least not with Polaris, they will aim for the middle segment which is where most cards are sold anyway, so its a smart move.
Even though we here are impressed with 'the fastest card of the moment' mainstream cards are sold the most.
The gtx 970 is the most used cards on steam right now, and they are looking to beat that, at a lower price point
>>54442142
Yeah and you need a fucking $1200+ in GPU's to run it.
Then on xfire/sli you have frametime and microstutter and deminishing return issues.
>>54442127
Polaris 10 is already confirmed 25% smaller.
It will perform at least like a 1070 but be noticeably cheaper because it's a smaller die.
>>54442162
>Yeah and you need a fucking $1200+ in GPU's to run it.
Only if you want maxed out settings, honestly the difference between high and ultra settings is often not even noticable, and the difference between 4 or 8x aa on 4k will not be that noticable either.
Gaming on 4k on high settings with some stuff turned down that doesn't matter much anyway is already doable with the 980ti and will definately be doable with the 1080.
If you think those cards are too expensive then wait for the next generation
>>54442171
>It will perform at least like a 1070
How did you arrive at that conclusion?
>>54442157
1070 is in the same price range as the gtx 970 is/was, there's no point in buying a gtx 970 equivalent for $300 when you already have a 970 and you can get something that completely blows it out of the water for $380
>>54442186
Same effective die area (1070 is a 1080 with 25% disabled shaders), rumors point to 980ti performance
>>54442197
>1070 is in the same price range as the gtx 970 is/was,
Not exactly, it will be 50 dollars more expensive.
Polaris 10 will beat the 970 aswell, but it most likely will be about 10% slower than a 1070. But significantly cheaper.
>>54442197
The launch edition is $450.
It will be weeks or months before you can buy the $380, which is still more expensive than 970.
Meanwhile Polaris 10 is supposedly launching at $300-$350
>>54442203
>rumors point to 980ti performance
No they don't, there has been one graph that implied it, and that wasn't something that came from AMD or was confirmed by them. Most of what they said so far confirms that it will be a 'mainstream card'. My guess it it will be in between the 980 and 980ti but below the 1070
>>54442214
>Polaris 10 is supposedly launching at $300-$350
Polaris 10 is many different cards.
>>54442226
No it isn't
>>54442162
>Yeah and you need a fucking $1200+ in GPU's to run it.
Depends, I run 4k on a single 980 and of my ~550 steam games maybe only 10 or so don't run maxed out, so for the most part it's playable.
Playing stuff like GTAV which is demanding you can get away with medium settings and it still looks good.
>>54441125
Get a 380x and enjoy the miracles of decent price/performance
>>54440054
f-freak?
>>54442218
mainstream is defined by price, not performance.
1070 is too expensive because it is a cut down version of the 1080 chip.
Polaris 10 is a smaller chip and in its fully enabled form will compete with the 1070. Being smaller means better yields and thus it will be more cost efficient than the 1070.
>>54442226
it's practically confirmed to be two different cards
>>54440694
besides the fact that 400$ headphones are actually 90% placebo, a new 400$ graphics card is not, it actually improves the performance of your PC
you audiophiles are actually the worst kind of extremists
you don't kill people but you shittalk yourself and other people in spending all your/their money on audio equipment that's only improving sound quality in your imagination and no matter how many people try it and tell you there's no difference you just stick with "BUT MUH SOUND"
man I hate you faggots with the force of a thousand suns
meanwhile I listen music with my 60€ headphones on my pc and 10€ plugs on my phone and it sounds not a tidbit worse than with your equipment
>>54442253
>mainstream is defined by price, not performance.
Its actualy defined by both
>>54442253
>Polaris 10 is a smaller chip and in its fully enabled form will compete with the 1070
Again this assumption that a much smaller die will compete with the 1070, what do you base this on?
>>54442253
you're delusional, the gtx 970 wasn't too expensive, so why would the 1070 be too expensive. we don't have any evidence to suggest that polaris will be more cost efficient than 1070, maybe cheaper but not necessarily more performance relative to the cost
When will Polaris 10 be released?
new AMD CPU with DDR4 support to justify a complete PC upgrade when?
>>54442256
kill yourself idiot
>>54442283
1070 is a 25% cut down 1080
Polaris is almost exactly 25% smaller than 1080, but on 10% denser node.
>>54442302
mad audiophile detected
>>54442302
You first faggot.
>>54442303
a denser node could be more expensive and have more issues with performance and yield
>>54440123
Where retards like you even come from? It is said that 1080 will be about 20-30% faster than 980Ti. 2X fast in VR!
>>54442318
And what does AMD have that offers 980Ti performance?
Oh thats right NOTHING and the closest card is the Fury X which is only 4gb
>>54442318
Who gives a fuck.jpg.avi.org.com
>>54442312
idiotic poorfag sperg that can only think in black and white detected
get any $1-10 earphones off of ebay
notice how utter shit they are
different audio equipment can have different quality
IDIOT
>>54442301
Zen 6 and 8 cores in October
>>54442292
Computex
>>54440459
No.
>>54442303
Yes and? That still doesn't mean it will compete with the 1070 in terms of performance
>>54442329
>that's all /g/ can use
>default trolling/bait
Nice bait
>>54442345
FUCK OFF IDIOT YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED
>HURR I CAN ONLY AFFORD THESE NO NAME OVER PRICED $60 HEADPHONES
>THOSE $100-400 HEADPHONES ARE COMPLETE SHIT
>N-NO SOUR GRAPES
>>54440397
The 8GB DDR5X 1070 will be $380? Can AMD honestly compete?
>>54442326
Not everyone cares about performance only. I need a great card for muh 1080p at around 250-300 price. Thats where AMD is supposed to strike.
>>54442329
actually did a field experiment once, noticed that the whole line of hama earplugs was shit, damp sound, got a couple pairs for 10€ from vivanco and from this point on nothing got even remotely better in sound quality
30-40-60€ earplugs from sennheiser didn't sound a bit better
only placebo
>>54442348
you just got baited by another anon, that wasn't me
but keep your sour grapes meme, it's shit anyways
>>54442315
it's other way around
>>54442353
you probably already have a card that's about as good for 1080p as the $250-300 card, no point in upgrading, and how can you be this poor that you can't afford to step up a little bit in price to get the proper stuff for a "big purchase" like a pc component
>Paper launch to get reviews in a couple days before AMD announces cards
>"Founders Edition" to justify insane launch prices
>Demo 2100MHz card on stage when spec sheet only says 1733MHz
Nvidia marketing at its finest
>>54442366
not all expensive things are better than cheaper things
not all cheap things are better than more expensive things
>>54442391
kys
>>54442375
No, i have integrated GPU currently. I live in Russia. Multiply 300$X1.5, thats how much it will cost here.
the one guy that keeps shilling polaris 10 sounds like a delusional AMD shareholder
/g/ is poor as fuck you're not influencing any investors with your shilling anyway
>>54442418
>That one guy who keeps shitting on AMD
Here is your (you).
>>54442409
get some of your euro friends to purchase for you and ship it.
>>54439845
Wait until Polaris benchmarks then weigh against how long you need to keep the card.
Pascal still doesn't have hardware async compute, so pascal DX12 won't be as fast as Polaris (unless AMD's 14nm is so incredibly shit that even without async the sheer clockrate of pascal wins)
If you intend to upgrade again as soon as Volta hits, buy Pascal - if you're hoping to hold on for 1-2 generations per card, don't upgrade yet, or go AMD for a single generation.
Pascal will be the DX11 king, Forever, I mean it, no other arch will EVER have the native DX11 performance of Pascal, EVER
>as Volta will be differently focussed, it won't even be able to compete with Pascal on DX11, but by its release, it won't even have to.
Polaris will be DX12 king for this generation, unless nVidia pulls a rabbit from their hat and release Volta in early 2017 (when from what we know Vega10 and the assumed full HBM2 Pascal) then AMD will win in DX12 for the next 2 years.
If Volta is 2018 as currently expected, then it should be a MONSTER chip, nVidia basically released Pascal as a die shrink of maxwell, just to tide things over while they perfect Volta - HBM2 Pascal is a good test too, AMD already has figures and research on HBM from Fiji, nvidia is currently blind there, HBM2 Pascal gives them a released product to test and gain data from before perfecting it Volta.
IF everything is running as I presume, AMD will be the 'graphics king' until 2018, when all hell breaks loose again.
Don't rule Intel out yet either, since nVidia won't relicensice their graphics IP suite to Intel now and AMD has also told them fuck off, they are going to be very butthurt, so much so that some very drastic things might happen in the next year - watch both Qualcomm and Imagination, they're about to disappear...
>Imagination will likely become Apple property though...
>>54442448
Do you have autism?
>>54441150
Thats because consoles run at "low" settings at all times. The developer was payed to use this graphical setting across all platforms.
The EU and USA should just seize all of Nvidia's and AMD's and create a singular, government controlled company
>>54442465
Are you upset by my thorough analysis?
>>54442448
>Pascal still doesn't have hardware async compute,
Are you retarded?
Source
>>54442515
IT DOESNT.
>>54442522
LERL
Nvidia btfo
I can't stop buying new GPUs. I don't even really game anymore. But I need the latest and greatest hardware. How to stop?
>>54442522
If true then it doesn't matter. Devs just make games that run well on Nvidia because they have 80+% of the market.
>>54442531
you are trying to fill a void in your life by an imaginary "progress" of buying a better GPU. You need to find that progress elsewhere in your life.
>>54439845
GTX 1080 is announced! Costs $600!* Cheaper than 980ti and absolutely blows it's socks off.
>*700%+19%MwSt in Europe
1070 is around $400 apparently. Faster than the Titan X.
>*550$+19%MwSt in Europe
>>54442515
It won't have any async support, if so very limited, otherwise the CEO will scream that name as a good marketing tool.
>>54442531
Enlist help. Make a friend or family member be an angel on your should when you reach for your wallet.
>>54442486
wut?
>>54442515
nVidia themselves, it has 'enhanced' async compute (ie. a better software implementation that won't be backported to maxwell)
It will be better than Maxwell but not as good as AMD's current implementation which is apparently getting 'better' (who knows how? or if it actually will...) with polaris - but even if it doesn't, the current 8 ACE implementation is better than Pascal.
>>54442560
Welp that settles it i am not gonna buy a $500+ card thats crippled before its even released.
Why the fuck not do async?
Godddamnit we will be waiting until 2018 or longer wont we
>>54442544
Not yet, but honestly hopefully.
I'm probably AMD biased, but I'd like to see it anyway.
However for the moment it will work in AMD's favor since the mass market isn't nvidia's PC marketshare, it's AMD's console marketshare.
Even if their shitty for the most part, both Xbone and PS4 have the same 8 ACEs config as Hawaii, Kaveri and Fiji do - game devs as evidenced by recent ports, aren't doing shit for PC, so async compute is going to be major feature simply because the consoles are now using it.
Xbone especially since MS wants to have all Xbone games as UWP games that can also be played on PC in due course.
>>54442555
It's quite simple mr. trips.
Async support has to be done at very low level in the driver, for each fuckin card.
It is a lot of work for nvidia, and the CEO needs new sportscars to match his cool leather jacket.
So they won't get new programmers to do it.
AMD had a head start with Mantle? (correct me if im wrongu)
>>54442019
Let me guess, mommy pays the electricity bill?
>>54442694
i have 2000w on the roof
Fellow waitbro,
>i5-6600k
>2x8GB
Will pickup an m.2 SSD once the 1070 hits this shit hole.
>>54442621
Both had a great start, they both knew low level support from consoles (nvidia had PS3 remember)
AMD has better support because they have ACEs, essentially a management engine on the GPU die to support async compute among other things.
nVidia doesn't have anything like this in hardware, but can support async compute though software - nVidia are probably the only company on the planet that could do this with *any* level of performance, it's a feat no doubt, but it won't ever match AMD's solution within the lifetime of the card (if 10 years time though, as 'retro' cards maybe, with newer CPUs, it could be better, the AMD solution will never get better with time as it's hardware but nvidia's solution will get better even without software upgrade as CPU performance gets better)
No one has better drivers than nVidia, no one - even though people give AMD's drivers shit, even Intel couldn't beat them only nVidia was better becuase they are the best, period - I don't think we should judge Pascal vs. Polaris just yet in a way, Benchmarks on games will be the best tool and until both are released we won't see that.
The *only* certain thing right now is that Maxwell is dead.
F
>>54442762
Pic related is what I picked up, being stuck without a video card and being forced to use an overheating gaymen laptop is suffering.
>>54442762
Fuck m.2, you have Skyjizz.
Intel releases Optane 3D-Xpoint SSDs next year, assuming you've got 2 free RAM slots (or rather UNI-DIMM slots...) you've got 2 free fuckfast SSD slots.
>>54440459
Everyone who will tell you yes here is a liar as they can't possibly know.
Apparently the 1080 is 75% faster then the 980 in Tomb Raider.
The 980 only gets 18fps@4k with tomb raider so 75% percent more is only barely more playable.
Wait for the reviews. They'll come out this or next week.
>>54442805
I guess I made the right choice in going full on retard with 2x8GB instead of my original plan of 2x4GB then get another 2x4GB down the line.
GTX 1070 $379
GTX 1080 $599
All those AMDPOORFAG trolls that were shitposting the whole of April and early May?
BTFO
T
F
O
>>54439879
>Getting mad about what other people spend their money on
Femanon you made me lol.
The 1080 is not enough to play 4k@60fps+. If you your goal is not to play 1080p@144fps you shouldn't bother with this generation of gpus.
Better wait for volta.
>>paying $400 for gddr5
>>in 2016
You deserve your fate
>>54442831
>480 will outperform 1070 or be cheaper
>dual 480 will outperform 1080 and be cheaper
>>54442891
Keep on dreaming, Poolaris
>>54442805
It's like you don't know anything about Intel. It'll most certainly require a hefty upgrade to some other Intel product, whether it's cpu it mobo chipset. It most definitely will NOT run on a 6600k/current skylake
>>54440153
Asynch is literally almost a 40-50% improvement in performance output vs the 5% you yield between those two cards. Your only option is to go AMD at this point for the similar power and price, but more support
>>54441184
why do you care so much though? if people want to be perfectionists and buy every new GPU series every year then so be it. it does not affect you negatively(you only let it) and if anything it actually affects you positively because it pumps so much money into the GPU industry thus keeps it going and gives the community better performance on offer. so many people get mad about this and for no real valid reason. just care about yourself and stop being so bothered about others. this applies to about 90% of people ITT.
>>54442448
async compute is a meme you dip, and nvidia showed DX12 performance graphs, it looks very promising
Is this really that remarkable? The 970 was as good as the 780ti and the 980 was faster than the 780ti
>>54442448
>Polaris will be DX12 king for this generation
>AMD will be the 'graphics king' until 2018
>Qualcomm and Imagination, they're about to disappear
>Imagination will likely become Apple property
DOES IT HAVE
Asynchronous Compute??????
>>54443090
Retarded, for sure.
>>54443073
it's the first time in who knows how many years that we get a very significant upgrade over the previous generation, and the new cards are relatively affordable as well
just look at the reveal from 12:30 to 13:40, people are like "what the fuck"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VipvF26XRNY
>>54443160
>people are actually surprised at technological progress with billions of dollars in research behind it
>>54441181
Don't they have some 3.5 Gb not 4Gb jewery going on in them?
>>54443180
i haven't upgraded since 2009, i've been wanting to upgrade since like 2013, but with shit like haslel and things like that, it's just been off-putting, but i will almost certainly upgrade this year
>>54443182
If you're sticking to 1080p you are not going to hit 3.5 GB any time soon. Even when quality settings maxed out.
>>54439879
The AMD cards will almost certainly be a better deal all around. Cheaper, similar performance and less power draw. The only reason to go green is if you got an extra few hundred dollars you don't want.
>>54443194
If you're sticking to 1080p then a 960 or r9 380 is fine.
>>54443160
Those people were confirmed to be paid to clap and increase hype. There even were a girl from nvidia twitch stream that said with mic from the croud "i can afford that!" Fucking pathetic.
>it's the first time in who knows how many years that we get a very significant upgrade over the previous generation,
Where are you getting this from?? 1080 is like 25% faster than 980Ti? Thats a significant improvement?
>>54443160
Hahaha wtf this is the slimiest thing I've ever seen why are they getting hype over literally nothing?
>>54442127
The 490X will probably be between the 1070 and 1080 in performance or at least match the 1070 and all the other cards are in the market segment where most cards are sold.
This was probably the smartest thing AMD have done in ages, focusing on the mid-range GPU market instead of chasing after the performance crown.
>>54443160
>And you wanna ask me how faster is 1080 than Titan?
>Its insanely faster!
>20%
TOPKEK.
>>54439980
>hundreds of dollars on placebo headphones
lmao
>>54439845
>Software Async
>better performance in DX12
>better than Maxwell
>Maxwell likely got no more support for DX12
So is this mean all 9xx card are kill in this June?
Glad I still got my 390 for another couple years instead of getting buyer rermorse card.
>>54443160
Doesn't really seem all that much more impressive than the performance increase from the 780ti to the 980
>>54442831
Hello shill, do post more nvidia marketing material that's 110% accurate*.
*only during full moon while kept in the dark at temperatures between -6 and -5.5 celsius.
>>54443392
it's half the price and shits all over amd's shit
and it has new features like the projection stuff which is almost invaluable especially for multi monitors and VR
KILL YOURSELF IDIOT
I'll never get this red vs green console war mentality. Having all these retards shitflinging insults and misinformation makes it really hard to decide which brand to go with if you want to be objective about it.
>>54443415
>Maxwell likely got no more support for DX12
Please tell me Nvidia is better than to do some shit like that.
>>54443425
>it's half the price
You can buy 980Ti from newegg right now for 560$ you cuck.
>new features like the projection stuff
Looks like you dont even know what youre talking about, lmao.
>>54443444
KILL YOURSELF IDIOT IT'S LESS THAN HALF THE PRICE VS TITAN X AND YOU'RE FUCKING CLUELESS ABOUT THE PROJECTION STUFF FUCKING DELUSIONAL RETARD
>>54443435
Why would you browse 4chan for actual information. People are just here to shitpost, wait till the cards are released, compare benchmarks on reputable sites and decide afterwards.
>>54443452
You give NVidia masterrace a bad name...
>>54443442
The conference stated that 10xx got more performance in DX12 with their new hardware.
There is no way they can achieved that with Maxwell on software level.
>>54443435
just wait until amd announces their stuff (it's supposedly before the gtx 1070 is released), then look at benchmarks and stuff and consider what you can buy in terms of your budget, but seriously the driver support, projection stuff, g-sync just makes nvidia's offering so much better, you should probably just get a gtx 1070 if you can afford it, it'll have a great bang for the buck just like the gtx 970, it's the most popular graphics card among steam users for a reason
>>54443435
All we know is Nvidia GPUs get driver crippled after 1.5 years and AMD supports DX12 way better.
There's no way I'm buying Nvidia anymore especially after 3.5GiB deceit.
>>54441616
>what is saving
>what is good investments
>implying people won't also sell things to get what they want
>implying people don't think that the TCO will be lower due to power efficiency
Just cause it's not half a paycheck for one person doesn't mean it's not feasible to save for a few weeks to get it.
Hell i have a buddy that's been saving up for at least a year to upgrade an old ass card to a based 1080
>>54443452
>he fell for a Titan meme
TItan is 10% faster than non OC 980Ti. Overclocked 980Ti is faster than Titan.
>ILL JUST CALL HIM RETARDED THAT WILL PROVE IM RIGHT
Seem like youre only capable of spouting buzzwords but whatver.
>>54443477
>but seriously the driver support,
Seems you not reading the news for the last couple months.
>>54440772
>paying 1k for a titan next year
>waiting for 1080TI
ehm yeah... I'm fine with buying a GTX1080
>>54443435
I dunno, it's still pretty easy. Just check a wide range of benchmarks for yourself comparing AMD and Nvidia products in their respective categories.
But every generation of graphics cards always has a best value GPU and for this gen it's been the R9 390 and was the R9 290 last gen, so it's fair to expect that when AMD releasws its new graphics cards that they'll provide the best value for money if that is what concerns you
>>54443489
fuck off tard, the guy i replied to compared against titan x, and you're fucking retarded about the projection stuff, IDIOT
see 27:00 onwards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VipvF26XRNY
RETARD
>>54443435
I've had good experiences from both AMD and Nvidia, but prefer Nvidia due to the driver support and the feeling that theyre a company in touch with their customers. That being said, it really does just come down to what your budget is, and what you're looking for, whats good at the time etc. Both companies offer great products.
>>54443509
relax ur anus kid. dont u have some homework to do?
>>54443518
nice projecting, stupid underage consumerist neo-/g/ shitkid
>>54443509
Educate yourself dumbass.
>friends trying to rustle me because I have a 980ti after the announcement
>bought said 980ti in september for $400
bunch of smug assholes coming out after I've been using a high end card for the past 8 months
>>54443529
what's even your point retard?
>>54443516
I had a Radeon x1800 and a GTX 275. Both decent cards at their time.
>>54443524
>nice projecting
Then goes on projecting. fucking kekd
>>54443509
I want /v/ to leave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VipvF26XRNY
48:40
in VR:
2x perf
3x efficiency
0.5x the price
kill yourselves
>>54439980
true
>Directx12 and Async meme
So how long my 970 will last now?
>>54443666
Just dont update your drivers and you will be fine for half a year at least.
>>54443666
you should get by just fine for at least 1-2 years, but imo even from a 970 the 1070 would be a good upgrade if you're really into gaming
>1070 has gddr5
>1080 has gddr5 x
>Nothing has hbm2
>history of memory gimping
Pass.
>Glad I waited
>Glad I waited
Says the virgin ready to fuck
Did you get the toys you wanted for christmas?
>>54441125
Polaris isn't going to be a world beating $600+ card, AMD plans on Polaris 10 being their new mainstream card(480/480x) and with a huge performance increase and power draw compared to the 670 I would expect that to be a great value card.
>>54443692
>a 970 the 1070 would be a good upgrade if you're really into gaming
>My 970 doesn't even reach one year yet.
So I need to upgrade my card every year now?
>>54443714
If youre nvidia.
>>54441125
definitely wait, they're just around the corner, at 1080p 60 Hz you'll be able to max out every game for the foreseeable future, i read that the latest doom went up to 200+ fps with all the settings maxed out
>>54443666
What the fuck is an "Async"?
>>54443714
you don't need to, if you're happy with what you have now, there's no problem with that
skippin these cards because
A.) No Vive yet
B.) No 4K either
C.) I see people happily playing games with 700 series cards. So im confident that my 970 will still run games smoother and looking better than consoles.
by the time the 2000 series comes out i should have a 4K monitor and we will really know if VR is running full steam ahead or just a meme device
the only way i see myself buying a 1070-80 is if 3.5 rears its ugly head and really put a hurt on the performance of future games
>>54440598
using a shitty port as comparison
nvidia is as shit at the beginning
good job
>>54442315
Are you retarded? Smaller, denser chips are less expensive because of better yields
>>54443748
Will DX12 meme hinder my card?
>>54443766
So delusional.....
>>54443766
Your mom is a shitty port
>>54440768
are you color blind or something
>>54443783
Winrar. Excellent banter, my underage friend.
>>54443776
no, the gtx 970 can still handle DX12 games, and async compute is a meme, see pic related
>>54443773
not if it's an immature node, that's why we were stuck on 28nm for so long
>>54443804
>my underage friend.
Your mom didn't care, still sucked me dry
>>54443810
Isn't Async also boost the performance DX12 games?
If Async is a meme then why Nvidia bother with it with their new card that increased both their Async and DX12 performance?
Isn't that most likely will killed their old card unless they not supporting in thus making more game devs cater to their card and yield better performance without using Async?
I reccommend to look at frametime-benchmarks, which is more telling of how you will experience game X.
In-game lags due to sudden jumps in frametime are really offputting.
>>54443865
this
>>54443859
Is it even possible? You need at least 0.01 inches.
>>54443888
Those trips! REKT.
>>54443888
Are you stupid? i said "sucked me dry", not "fucked her"
>>54443912 (You)
Agree
>Next gen cards came out
>Scalper will buy every one of them.
>Everything will not be available for at least another couple months.
>Price is ridiculously raised compare to the official one because of this.
>When you actually got one the driver is still not mature enough until another year.
>New card from the same generation came out with mature driver and technology.
Why even bother?
I rather buy a 970 or 390 right now since both of them more stable hardware and drivers.
>>54443778
i didnt say amd got it right, gears of war just is a shitty example
>>54442805
3d xpoint is electronically compatible with ddr4 but the signals don't match. Intel have officially stated that you'll need a special Xeon CPU to be released in 2017 to use it. It's DOA.
How do Nvidia make money? I guarantee $379 will be over $500, but $600 may not exceed $750
If they priced this higher like $549 and $699 you wouldn't see any price hikes. Price gouging has been going on big time, remember Fermi failure and the ATI 5800s?
To all people saying the 1080 and 1070 are faster than the Titan, do you realize it's only for VR stuff ?
You really fell for this /g/ ?
>>54444600
it's still faster than the titan for normal stuff, just that the VR perf increase is even greater because of the projection stuff
>>54444600
How does VR performance not scale to normal gaming? Look at the TFLOPS, faggot. It's a newer chip and newer memory.
>>54444819
>faggot
Nvidia cucks cant talk to people without insulting them. Seems just right.
>>54444963
You just ignored the subject matter and went straight to the butthurt, didn't you..
Also, welcome to 4chan, faggot. All newfags must register here >>>/reddit/
>>54441246
michael?
>>54444819
>How does VR performance not scale to normal gaming?
VR specific optimizations. Other than those, Pascal is basically maxwell with higher clocks and smaller process.
>>54445154
You can't get 2x faster VR performance with the same hardware. Optimizations don't really make the majority of a difference, a faster chip and memory does.
Want a real gaming example? You can't max out Doom at 1080p and get a stable 130+FPS with a Titan X. They did so at their demo.
>>54442448
>Don't rule Intel out yet either, since nVidia won't relicensice their graphics IP suite to Intel now and AMD has also told them fuck off
source? i knew their license was going to expire but i didnt hear anything about AMD telling them to fuck off
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