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I thought the new Pascal 1080 and 1070 would be using HBM2 by
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I thought the new Pascal 1080 and 1070 would be using HBM2 by now, why is nvidia still re-using GDDR5 for the X times?

Do we even have a good VR game that can use all the new VR tech they introduced?
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GP104, only GP100 uses HBM2
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because hbm is still really fucking expensive and the yields are shit
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How much does HBM actually cost per stack? I have never seen any pricing.
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This! I say we forget about Pascal and just wait for the real graphics to be provided by AMD.
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>>54423244
HBM is difficult to produce, and Hynix can't keep up the production volume, and Micron's HBM line is just ramping up.

Basically, it's a supply issue.
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aw, not fair. pascal is still cool. better than java.
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>>54423244
Who cares. I'd rather have better price/performance over "BUT IT HAS HBM IT MUST BE GREAT".
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>>54423521
are you okay?
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Nvidia already uses HBM2 but only for GP100

https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-begins-mass-producing-worlds-fastest-dram-based-on-newest-high-bandwidth-memory-hbm-interface

Samsung is the only manufacturer of HBM2 currently, SK Hynix won't even start until Q3
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>>54423574
>GP100
i heard that Nvidia will release a gaming edition card with HBM2, 4 months after the 1080 and 1070?
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>>54423645
No, Nvidia is selling every Tesla P100 they can to large companies like Google which placed very large orders, no consumer GP100 products until next year
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real Pascal comes in November or early 2017. This is just a die shrink that we've known about for a long time.
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