>Broadwell-E 20% higher IPC than Haswell-E, as well as being an overclocking monster
http://www.techpowerup.com/222184/intel-core-i7-6850k-pictured-tested
>>54375646
Great, but got any proof? 3% gain in Skymeme over Haslel seemed like Intel doesn't know what to do anymore
>>54375648
I want fancy graphs anon, not a wall of text
ZEN
E
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>>54375646
>Broadwell-E 20% higher IPC than Haswell-E
So Broadwell-E has 10% higher IPC than Skymeme, despite being nothing more than a Haslel die shrink?
Nice one.
>>54376256
MEME
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M
E
>>54375646
Who cares?
AMD is doing better than they have in years. Custom part for Sony, custom part(s) for Nintendo, and a new processor architecture that's actually going to be released on the same manufacturing process Intel is on.
>>54376256
>Sandy Bridge performance
>Q3 2017
>>54376418
If it costs less than jewtel, it'll be worth it if you don't already own a 2500k/2600k.
>>54376437
the way things are going these days, I doubt I even need to upgrade from LGA1366
>>54376437
I have an i5 3570K and I was waiting for Zen to be released before I upgrade my system.
I was planning on getting a new Zen APU and crossfiring it with a Polaris GPU.
>>54375646
>6 core
Eww 8 core when?
ive been waiting 9 fucking years for a midrange 8 core but unless i go buy a xeon they literally dont exist.
>>54376458
>mfw i did upgrade from lga 1366 3 years ago and it was a meme
Dont do it anon i miss my i7 920 i cry everytiem
thank fuck it was a i5 4690 and not some meme cpu z97 chipset is the bomb
>>54376437
>2600k
W-wait, so my old CPU isn't just a meme? Can I get away with just upgrading my old card (6950) for now?
>>54376642
Yup, you might see ~20% performance gains in some games with a 6700k, but for the most part the 2600k is more than powerful enough for all games, especially if it's OC'd a GPU upgrade is all you need senpai.
>>54376642
yeah, upgrade your gpu and then wait for a cpu worth upgrading to to release. your 2600k is fine, old and aging, but fine.
>>54376642
2600k is fine, I have one.
>>54375646
>broadwell-E
>intel
you forgot
>$1500 per die
>$100 per another 200Mhz because of "professional intel testing"
AMD won't compete with Intel, as simple as it gets.
AMD will try to pander to the lowend market with APUs.
>>54376705
exactly the opposite of what amd is doing
>>54376705
>AMD say Zen is their re-entry to the high end CPU market
>all evidence suggests this to be true
>some faggot from 4chan must know better
>>54376418
>>54376437
From what I've heard Zen will be closer to Haswell. Not that there's much a performance difference.
What you're ignoring is that Zen, if the hype is to be believed, will be an 8-core $250ish CPU with the IPC of Haswell and feature set of Skylake. If that doesn't sound awesome as hell then I don't know what is.
>>54375646
>higher IPC
>They have just unsegmented their CPU to have less cycles
>The new Broadwell-E everybody, including 2x Pipelines (running at 800MHz)
kek
>>54376833
>Falling for AMD's lies
>Beliving Intel won't crush them 3 months later anyway
>>54376992
#StandWithIsrael
>>54376418
The only real reason why newer CPUs perform better than Sandy is that they support more x86 extensions, like AVX2 or AVX3.
If Zen is on par with Sandy in normal floating point ops and has support for those extensions, then it will be as much faster than Sandy as Haslel and Skylake is.
>>54376642
I have a 2500k at 4.5GHz. Its lagging behind with my two OCd 8GB 290X. The new 8 cores will be a good upgrade I've been waiting for now for a while.
>>54376642
>>54377229
That card is a slice of cake for your cpu to handle though. I gave my 6950 to my little brother I got with a $150 craigslist computer. You should save up and buy zen or a 5820k (Or broadwell-e if youre feeling fancy) after price drops along with one of the next gen gpus of your choice.
>>54376418
>More cores
>Costs less (probably)
The difference in IPC will be negligable, atleast in DX12 and any other program that uses more cores efficiently
Even fucking ancient FX 8350 is comparable to any new Intel CPU in DX12
>>54376418
Wow, that was a good one m8. You really got them nippin today
>>54377004
Thank you
I'll wait until cheap there's a cheap used 6950X to replace my Xeon E5-2667 V3 ES thanks
>>54376833
Zen was designed years and years ago to compete with Haswell.
>>54378732
if it turned out to be half-price haswell with lots of cores, i'd take it
especially if i can cram a stupid core count into a mini-itx build as my new workstation
>>54376388
>stock at an all time low
>literally just got a bankruptcy warning
>"AMD is doing better than they have in years"
L M A O
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>>54375646
Kek, MAD is fucked.
>>54378843
AMD stock is up to $3.61 from it's lowest, $1.62 from last year
>>54377004
FREE PALESTINE
Zen is dead on arrival and offering nothing better than poolaris graphics wise.
Man, AMD is so doomed.
>>54378843
Uhhh, did you not see the $300M license agreement a few weeks ago?
They get $300M cash upfront + a license fee on EVERY CPU produced under their license.
>>54378876
Link?
>>54378861
>2 dollars up
That is literally and utterly nothing when the worth of their shares is less that the fluctuation of other companies. This is a company whose shares used to go for 44 dollars a pop. This is beyond terrible.
>>54378905
Its literally a doubling in the companies value.
If you dont see the significance in that then there's no helping you.
>>54378905
Don't think of it in terms of absolute value, but percentage
>>54378876
So, good for them, AMD made about what intel does literally every hour a day.
>>54378925
>>54378930
Two times nothing is still nothing.
>>54378892
>http://www.wsj.com/articles/amd-to-license-chip-technology-to-china-chip-venture-1461269701
>>54378925
Yeah and going from 1 cent to 3 cents is also considered trippling the value of something. The fact you have to focus solely on relatives instead of the piss poor base numbers just scream desperation.
>>54378975
Says you. I made $5000 after taxes thanks to that "two times nothing". My only regret is not buying more AMD stocks when I had the chance.
The only good CPUs AMD have ever released were the first Athlon X2 64 ones and Phenom II series. Rest will forever and ever be shit and shit.
>>54378942
>Intel literally makes 300M an hour
>literally
Illiterate pig.
>>54376705
>Implying the Intel i series aren't apus
What sort of a retard wants Intel's only competition to die?
Intel already get away with releasing barely different "upgrades" each year.
Imagine how worse it would be if nobody was even trying to compete.
>>54375646
This looks like the right thread for this question.
I have heard Intel Xeon engineering samples are OCable.
Is this true?
>>54382808
xeons are always oc able intel just says nono to mobo producers to enable it in thier mobos
thats why intel forced the mobo producers to update their bios firmware
>>54376833
Yeah but we also heard that about Bulldozer and Piledriver.
We all know how that ended.
Currently the 8350 is competing against i3s in most areas.
Who's ready for TEN (10) INTEL™ BRAND CORES? I am personally 100% ready for TEN (10) INTEL™ BRAND CORES.
>>54382853
I have Gigabyte X99 UD4 that I got for free some time ago and I got a good deal for a xeon 2650v3 and wondered if I should go for it, but it is an engineering sample.
>>54381845
I do, but only because I want to watch the world burn.
>>54378421
Fx8320 here. Fucking goat processor from AMD. Much better than the i5 2500 was. About as good as an i5 4460.
>>54375646
>as well as being an overclocking monster
The best I can get out of my 6900k confidential is 4.2ghz on air. Could probably get 4.4ghz but it would take around 1.4v
>>54379054
I'm still wondering why the US government hasn't got into this, they banned Intel from selling x86 chips to chinks
Well, at least the next most powerful supercomputer will have a lot of AMD in it
>>54382882
The 8350 can also compete with the i7's in quite some areas
The fact that it's still somewhat competitive despite being 4 years old is astounding, even the fact that it can compete with i3's in some areas
>>54383123
No they banned intel from selling CERTAIN chips, only the highest end chips as far as I am aware.
Though I agree, I thought certainly US gov would have something to say about this, the chinese government have been trying to get high end server CPUs from their own manufacturers for a decade.
>>54376282
That's 20% over my 4790k, time for up upgrade :^]
>>54376833
>AMD
>delivering on a promise
>ever
>>54383209
>AMD
>high end server CPUs
>>54378876
300 million for what should be a double digit billion per year company does not a competitor make
>>54383258
They licensed the x86-64 architecture from AMD, you know... like intel does.
>>54381845
>Implying AMD counts as "competition"
Only in the sense that they still exist and are in the same market. Otherwise, they can't put a finger on them. Zen is playing catchup, but might give some good offers to poorfag system builders. That's about it.
>>54383209
Can't they just make their own arm or mips supercomputer?
>>54375646
Why are they releasing another broadwell revision after skylake already came out?
>>54383335
They can and do, but intel is by far the leader in transistor performance/density/wattage etc
Intel is simply too far ahead in process tech for china to simply do it on their own, they have been investing billions into chinese based semi-conductor foundries, but the R&D required is extensive, even when you're spying on intel.
>>54383367
broadwell-e != broadwell
>>54383383
Why would they do this
>>54383392
They've done it for years, Haswell, Haswell-e, Sandybridge, Sandybridge-e, etc.
>>54383405
But I thought haswell-e was haswell
Did they lie and it was actually broadwell?
>>54376282
>despite being nothing more than a Haslel die shrink?
They use patented meme magic(R) to improve IPC
>>54383373
Pretty sure if you got a bunch of high end arm chips they'll outperform Intel chips for similar tdp.
Arm=3w
I7 = 84w
That's 28 octa core arm chips for the same tdp, which in my opinion should also offer better performance, but don't take my word on that.
>>54376833
The last time AMD actually made a competitive CPU was the Athlon64 days.
>>54376838
Is it a real 8 core though, or 8 half cores like the rest of their shit?
>>54383518
There is no real way to connect that many ARM chips together in an efficient manner, nor do they have the same hardware support (raid cards and shit like that).
So youre basically custom fabbing literally everything you need if you want to do a huge ARM super computer.
Much cheaper and easier to use existing technologies, such as Infiniband FDR fiber interconnects and Xeon CPUs with large quad or octo socket motherboards, etc etc.
Theoretically, maybe you're right. But as far as I know, the equipment to actually set up a super computer of ARM cores would need to be created.
>>54378861
I fucking knew I should have bought AMD stock back when it was $1.50ish.
>>54376081
>8
no one knows
skurd us furd
gurd urt
>>54383598
i told u so you shitfuck
>>54383154
Yeah since 7zip is that one all importnt area.
He truly deserves his place considering his power.
>>54383638
Should have put all my student loan monies in lol could have done like $10k
>>54383660
The 8350 still does great in encoding, and in pretty much any workload
Unless you're stuck with 2010 software
>>54383695
Dream on!
You probably also think the 9590 is great.
>>54383728
You probably think single threaded Cinebench and Skyrim at 1024x768 are the only important benchmarks
>>54383082
an i5 4460 is the same as a stock i5 2500k.
I own both so I can assert.
I also own a FX8350, which can match the i5 4460k if you over clock it to 4.5Ghz.
>>54383826
http://anandtech.com/bench/product/697?vs=1368
>>54382909
So I can get the the 2650v3 for like 220 bucks, or does it make more sense to wait for a Broadwell-E/EP?
yeah the 3.5k chip gonna be awesome.
meanwhile, kaby lake gonna be 1.37% better than skylake for exactly the same price and they'll probably go back to using tim so they can go back to solder on the next refresh.
>>54383584
Well, thanks for enlightening me. I just tossed out the first idea I had, I'm not the most tech literate.
Could they not custom build an arm chip with a lot of cores? Like hundreds?
>>54384759
You do not understand how scaling works.
ARM might be nice and power efficient the way it is, but it does not mean it stays the same if you simply upscale the chip.
The same goes for building a cluster.
>>54383964
>multi threaded applications
Might as well buy an used xenon, idiot.
When we talk about fucking consumer CPU we talk about single core performance.
Skylake comes with superior multi threaded performance compared to Haswell, yet this is not something people often mention do they and there is fucking reason why.
>>54383440
Haswell is consumer grade, Haswell-E is enthusiast grade, etc.
>>54375646
broadwell is only a 5% IPC increase and isn't going to overclock any differently than haswell-E, we've already seen desktop broadwell
>>54383826
I5 2500k is worse than 4460, unless you oc it. And I'm getting roughly same performance on my gtx 760 and fx8320 as my friend on his i5 4460 and gtx 960 in battlefield 4 and gta v.
His pc is maybe 5fps average higher in gta v, but since we're both above 60 fps with the same settings it really doesn't matter to me.
>>54376470
Literal retard here
>>54376470
>Ivy Bridge to "Haslel"
>Dual Graphics
kek
A fool and his money are soon parted
It's funny how LGA1366 is STILL relevant. Especially the 6 core westmeres.
Well, sad, rather than funny...
>>54388420
Yep cpu tech hasnt gone anywhere for over 6 years its very sad
>>54375646
Guess it's time for me to go X99. Later sky chumps.
>>54375648
HOW MANY LANES
>>54383383
I'm so confused
>>54383098
1.4v is nothing though.
>2014-tech
kek
>>54376833
>believing in the Zen lies
Ayyylmao
>>54375648
>http://www.techpowerup.com/222184/intel-core-i7-6850k-pictured-tested
I'm seeing a 10-15% performance increase with a 9% clock increase. Not all that impressive.
>>54376081
>Getting an x99 Intel-E for gaming
>Skyrim
>>54388999
>10%
Wew its fucking nothing
8 core will be the one to get
>>54375646
>Broadwell-E 20% higher IPC than Haswell-E
It seems like the retarded OP doesn't know that the "-E" and "-EX" variants are just larger chips based on the same architecture, not entirely new architectures.
We've already seen Broadwell vs. Haswell over a year ago, you idiot. We all know this 20% claim is complete bullshit from you.
So with this China agreement do you think we will see cheap chink x86 processors all over the world in next decade?
Because that's what happened with cars, phones, microwaves and clothes.
Intel sure is mad here and yet Broadwell_E is still going to be top dog at $1500USD
And what has AMD offering , oh yeah Zen with a smaller tdp than last gen and some IPC gains
and yet most of the lauchers maybe just paper lauch until q4 2016 ~ q1 2017 for Zen and Q2 for Broadwell-E
I think Intel is really late this time
and kayby lake looks like its q4 2016
its not as powerful as i hoped with just a bump to 4.2 ghz and better IGPU and 200 bucks more?
STOP Raping my wallet !
>>54391002
>tfw pile of shekels sitting around waiting for all this new shit to drop so I can upgrade finally
reeeeee cunts need to fucking release shit already
>>54375646
>Intel BTFO's 12,000 employees
>>54391002
Why do people think AMD somehow is going to come with smaller TDP?
Intel 14mn process alone is way better than the fake 16mn AMD is going to use and they have worked out almost all the kirks and problems from using 14mn, AMD on the other hand hasn't even released a single generation using 16mn.
>>54382882
>Yeah but we also heard that about Bulldozer and Piledriver.
That was before the shit-wrecker came back to make AMD great again.
>>54375646
20% higher than than has well E means it has IPC like Skylake. meaning amd will probably beat it.
