>mfw /dev/urandom may generate valid CP images
>worse yet, it may have already happened
Is such thing even possible?!
>>54349812
This is the dumbest thread on /g/ right now, and that's an accomplishment.
>>54349812
Fuck, what if I'm a criminal because my RNG generated copyright music?
(I use data collected from bittorrent traffic as my RNG...)
every binary number is fappable if you grip firmly enough
Theoretically possible. It will never happen though.
>>54349832
>implying Desktop Threads are better
Kys my man
Okay anon in a purely maths sense this would be problem however there is an issue. It's not possible to generate random nunbers, only pseudorandom. To prove my point try generating the number 1, 4.300.000.000 times in a row. If you're intrested about it go have a look on wikipedia
>>54349944
>It's not possible to generate random nunbers
http://engineering.mit.edu/ask/can-computer-generate-truly-random-number
>>54349944
4.300.000.000
so... 4.3?
who taught this anon to numbers
infinite possibilities != every possibility
Just like your dryer will never fold your clothes, urandom will never generate cp.
>>54349944
Using dots like this should be bannable
Chuck Norris once generated an entire cp video in urandom
>>54350066
Every pretty much implies infinite, since it's infinite, may include everything.
>>54350077
Nice meme
>>54350058
That's the European method of righting numbers. Decimals and commas are reversed for them
>>54350115
This isn't true at all
The number of possible 2-bit 320x240 images has over 23,000 digits in it.
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2%5E(320*240)
Even if you had a magical computer that could generate a 100 trillion of these 2-bit 320x240 images it'd take far longer than the universe would be around.
>>54350220
I mean "100 trillion of these images per second"
>>54350077
>Meme nostalgia: the post
>>54350220
>>54350239
But would /dev/urandom, by himself, be capable of generate these kind of images when outputted to a file too?
Don't know much about randomness, probabilities and stuff like that, specially with /dev/urandom and similar.
>>54349812
>I swear, I'm innocent, the 8 TB of CP on my hard drives were generated from /dev/urandom
>>54350305
It's theoretically possible. It's incredibly unlikely. It's so unlikely that you simply cannot comprehend how small the possibility of it happening is.
>>54350422
>you simply cannot comprehend
This is something I'm good at
>>54350821
What does something having a 0.000000000000000000000000000001% chance of happening mean to you?
How about a 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance? Does that make a real world difference to you?
You'd easily hit the character limit with the amount of 0s you'd need to show how unlikely generating CP randomly would be.
>>54350936
People say that about winning the lottery but it still happens
>>54349812
Why the fuck aren't you using frandom yet?
>>54350115
>righting
Jesus man, get some education.
>>54351096
sorry we dont learn english in lithuania
>>54351110
I forgive you.
>>54350028
You can though. If you put a hardware accelerated noise generator.
>>54350393
That excuse would probably work where I live tbqh...
>>54351182
i'll accelerate your noise with my hardware bby
>>54349944
Pseudorandom numbers generated by modern algorithms are fully and completely indistinguishable from truly random numbers.
If you think they aren't, congratulations, you have just broken all modern day crypto.
>>54351010
Winning the lottery has a chance of something on the order of 0.000001%.
If you think 0.000001% and 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% can be even remotely compared, congratulations, you cannot comprehend probabilities.
>>54351265
even smaller, something like 1 x 10^-99 would be reasonable
>>54350305
Yes, possible. It's also possible that it outputs beautiful music in FLAC format. But the chances of particular sequences like that being generated from psudorandom data are so insanely tiny that nobody will ever consider it.
>>54351265
He probably thinks the latter is 10x less likely since it's 10x as long.
That's what happens when you make the choice to install Linux. Statistics say that 77% of Linux users are pedophiles.
>>54350127
It absolutely is true you ignoramus. (Except for the UK)
>>54349812
yep, every time you read from /dev/*random, there is a (EXTREMELY slim) chance you will get CP, or literally any other kind of data
>>54349861
Y'know, grabbing random data from a P2P node (perhaps Tor) could actually be a really good unpredictable RNG seed. Something something atmospheric noise.
>>54353272
Linux etc. already gather entropy from the network.
It can actually be a security risk, since network data can be chosen by the attacker.
>>54350028
Yes it is possible to generate "truly" random numbers. But this process is based on speculation because they don't really understand how the physics of it work. If nobody understands you might view it as random. But you know there is probably is some hidden pattern. Regardless those methods are not viable to generate tons and tons of random numbers. It takes quite some time for this stuff to complete. And even then you will prob just get some noise and not really random stuff. A truly random sequence can contain no noise for example. And yes the european way for writing numbers is with a "." not a ",'. No idea why it's like that. So for the americans I ment 4,300,000,000.
>>54355948
Thats not random, thats still pseudorandom
>>54349812
>pifs contains every piece of CP ever made
>more, pifs contains every piece of CP created, no matter if in past or future
your /dev/urandom is shit
>mfw u ppl don't have radioactive decay as a RNG
>>54353460
Linux does not gather entropy only from the network.
If you are on a desktop, it will gather it from inputs (like mousepad, keyboard, sensors) and network.
And when it gets it from the network, it's not on the data. More stuff like where did the packet traveled to, how long it took, what tcp connections are happening and stuff like that
>>54349920
They are
>>54356361
>last commit about 2 years ago
N-no...
>>54356617
there are some pr tho
>>54356517
>Linux does not gather entropy only from the network.
I never claimed this
>More stuff like where did the packet traveled to, how long it took, what tcp connections are happening and stuff like that
These are all things that the attacker can influence
>>54356826
Influence yes, but not any useful degree -- unless the attacker is guaranteed to be the only person connecting to the target PC. And that is only one of many factors...
>>54351096
Some burgers piss me off with their "should of" and "could of" as well tho desu senpai
>>54356981
One of many factors that exponentially decrease the amount of time needed to bruteforce the others factors.
Yea, and your mother can appear out of thin air into my bed, because of quantum tunneling.
BUT THE CHANCE FOR THAT IS NON-ZERO SO LET'S DISCUSS ABOUT IT
Kill yourselves.
>>54357137
upboated XD
>/dev/urandom may generate an image containing step by step instructions on how to create human-like intelligence in a machine
>/dev/urandom may generate an image containing the meaning of life and the solution to quantum mechanics
>you will probably use this output for something stupid like grabbing a random card
>>54350066
>Just like your dryer will never fold your clothes, urandom will never generate cp.
I've seen that analogy used before to demonstrate a flaw in some naive interpretation of random outcomes, but it's not an apt one in this case.
Although it's overwhelmingly unlikely that urandom will generate cp, it is totally possible.
And given infinite time, urandom would generate an infinite number of cp pictures.
>/dev/urandom might someday generate detailed plans for a machine that allows interdimensional travel so you can finally visit your waifu
>>54357252
>it already happened and no one noticed
>>54357245
But given the finite time of a human life, or life of the earth, or life of our galaxy, the probability is still practically zero.
