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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
>>54347872
FIRST
>>54347947
That's a damn good first post right there.
Having a hard time emulating android on my x201 but I only have 4GB of ram. Am I going to have to upgrade?
>>54347947
damn playboi
>>54348154
Maybe just take the keyboard off and try reseating your lcd/video cable. That's a good sign that (I assume it boots and) the VGA works. Rules out the GPU and system board.
My hard drive caddy for my T60 got in today, too bad there was no cover. I had assumed that it would be part of this ordeal, but i am not gonna pay 4$ for it.
What do you think of my ghetto angling? Posted this is the new bst, but whatever.
It's propped up on two metal shelf corner brackets with traction pads on them to keep it from sliding.
I just thought it might be a good idea for the sake of airflow, I don't wanna go full house fire mode with a towel as my desktop.
>>54348216
>assumed
not pictured, doesn't come with it
>>54347947
Can the computer with the MW3 disk in it actually play MW3, or is that the joke?
Should i buy this one?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00U1DHX74/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2OGXJ90DZQRNA
I am talking about the refurbished one.
x230
intel 520 240gb ssd
8GiB Ram
IPS.
I want to get myself a laptop mainly for programming and dont know what ot get.
>>54348216
For what the cover actually is, get some thin sheet metal scrap and maybe electrical tape to make one that covers the slot.
Or just use cardboard, tinfoil, etc. anything to keep the dust out.
>>54348264
Yeah, should've known.
>>54348283
That's what I've done
>>54347724
T460p is better value
Depends, do you need the newer hardware and how much do you care about having a 1080p/2k display?
If you're just trying to do basic task such as browsing, watching movies, doing schoolwork. I'd save the money and grab a T420/430 with a 900p display, for a fraction of the cost.
>>54347872
>Vaio Pro 13
>4200U
>8GB
>128GB
>450eur
>mint
worth it?
inb4 get 666 x200 for dat monies
yo senpai anybody got a 1080p in an x220?
>>54348915
只有中国人,你柴草。
Better value for $250 off ebay? T420 with 1600x900/i5/4GB ram/nvidia card or X220 with IPS/i5/8GB ram? Would mostly be using for less intense gaming like heroes of the storm and diablo 3. Basically is the nvidia card on the T420 worth losing the higher screen resolution and portability of the X220?
Hey guys I'm starting college soon, and I was wondering what the difference between a 440 and 450 was (mainly why you guys shit on the 440 besides the lack of mousebuttons). The 440 is almost half the price of the 450 at times, so I was wondering if that was the best option to go with? And it would be the 's' version for the screen
>>54350009
Unless that x220 is modded the, T420 will have a higher resolution screen. The portability is up to you. I don't consider a T420 big or heavy by any means, but I'm not everybody. Ram is also pretty cheap to upgrade. However the screen on the T420 will be tn as opposed to the x220 ips.
>>54350096
If you want a 440, get a 440 and spend the $25 or so to get a 450 touchpad so you have proper trackpad buttons.
>>54350096
Get the 440 and replace the buttonless trackpad with the 450 trackpad. 50 series thinkpads are still relatively new and carry a sort of premium.
>>54350096
T440p and T440s can be upgraded to FHD IPS if its shit TN 720p
T450s and T450 can be upgraded as well
Base model T440 cannot be upgraded.
has anybody flashed libreboot here?
is it the real deal?
talk to me.
T420s master race
>6 cell + 3 cell ultrabay
>egpu
>alienware panel swap
AMA why the T420s is the best
>>54350720
Old image, sorry. Internal display is now at 60hz thanks to the Alienware panel.
>>54350720
What did you use for the eGPU? I've been looking into that for ages!
>>54350368
libreboot is a meme. It's complicated and does not give bang for the buck.
Rescued a Latitude E6400 from Goodwill for $20
Didn't have any RAM, hard drive or battery, but luckily I had some DDR2 in one of my CF-T8s and plenty of spare hard drives. Managed to bum the power supply off another GW who was selling an older, fully-functional Latitude. Not sure they were supposed to do that, but hey.
Booted it up for the first time and discovered it's equipped with a Quadro. How lucky can I be?
>>54350857
>900p and Quadro
Lucky guy.
>>54348915
if i sell my chink tablet on ebay, i'll get that kit and put it on my x220, and let you guys know how it goes.
>>54350720
What's the battery life like on it? Very intrested in a t420s, but have heard mixed responses about it.
>>54350720
is that GTX 460 egpu? how do oyu set that up? looking for a better gpu for my t420 but not trying to mess with PSu etc. just an easy setup
>>54350867
Aye, a fine addition to my notebook harem.
I'm really diggin' the lighted power plug and the full-metal body. It's definitely seen some action, but the only broken part is the little silver trim above the battery. The interior is flawless and the whole machine is really beautifully designed.
Which does /tpg/ prefer, IBM or Lenovo ThinkPads?
>>54351092
>lighted power plug
Damn man, I don't even have an actual Dell adapter, that should clean up well.
>>54351126
Ibm, but the hardware gets more and more dated as time passes. The newer thinkpads aren't exactly bad though.
>>54351174
What do you prefer about the IBMs?
>>54351126
The Lenovos with IBM logos are best. Sufficiently modern specs before the chinks had an opportunity to ruin the design.
>>54351452
T60 is a cutie.
I fell for it. I just bought a t430s for $190. How hard is it to replace the screen with the alienware one if it doesn't have the 1600x900 display originally?
Do all x220 with i7 come with ips?
what's the most bang for buck if you want an 1080p ips display?
>>54347872
ok /tpg/ some faggot kid at my work spilled water all over my acer while it was on... RIP laptop. Anyway i'm trying to decide whether i should go for the x201 or x200. I'm planning to use this new laptop all through college and i'm gonna be doing cs shit and going to hackathons and stuff like that... with that in mind what do you guys recommend?
>>54352317
Get the X201, it's faster, 16:10 and you'll love it.
>>54352343
alright thanks m8
>>54352317
if you like the X200s, look at Fujitsu Lifebook T-series too. T901/T531 are faster, have newer architectures, and have the same Wacom hardware as the X200/201 .
>>54347947
Is... is that two disk drives in one laptop?
>>54353222
Lmao, yes, just because Lelnovo can.
>>54353249
Which TP model has dual Ultrabays?
So, apparently, it's been confirmed that the Alienware 14" screen works great on the T430. Has anyone tried this? Sauce links in case anyone wants to check it out.
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/4f7gfw/heres_what_ive_learned_about_the_t430_from_my/
http://www.laptopscreen.com/English/model/Dell/ALIENWARE~M14X~R2/
>>54353398
T530 probably.
>>54353481
Considering I'm using a T530, I can say that's false
>>54353500
My bad. After further research it turned out to be a IBM ThinkPad A31p. Featuring an Ultrabay 2000 slot and a Ultrabay Plus slot. Fascinating.
Still, I'm not sure sure these specs could actually run MW3:
Standard Features
Intel Mobile Pentium 4-M 1.7, 1.8 or 2.0GHz
ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 with 64MB
15.1" TFT display with 1600x1200 resolution (IPS FlexView)
256MB PC2100 memory standard (2GB maximum)
40, 60 or 80GB HDD
>>54347947
O hai, James. How come you haven't gotten any of the new ThinkPads?
>>54353947
He had a T440p and X1C at one point.
>>54351151
It's a shame, but the blemishes are large amounts of thin scratches, like someone went over it with sandpaper very lazily. I might attempt to polish or paint it, or just get one of the colored panels. At least it looks nice when it's being cleaned.
It brings back memories of my old CPi-A, except it's far better built.
>>54347947
>thx for reminding me that 2nd season of panty and stocking will never exist
>>54354856
The screen is in excellent shape, graphical performance is more than adequate for the kind of things I run, and the backlight is like staring at the sun.
I've ordered a 9-cell, a replacement drive cover, and 8 gigs of DDR2, unfortunately I can only afford one of those lots of four 2GB modules right now, but that means my CF-T8s will get some love too.
Considering swapping the C2D T9600 from my T5010, as the Fujitsu doesn't seem have the thermal hardware to make that chip happy.
>>54354923
wat.
>>54347947
Apart from the W700ds, can someone list the models in this picture?
>>54352298
Probably T520 or W520.
The licensed repairers for my laptop are wanting to charge me $220 to repair a Helix that dropped 2' onto thick carpet, and all that's wrong is that connection to the screen backlight.
And if I repair it myself (assuming I can replace all the cables that could possibly be at fault and it's not the backlight fuse that's blown), I'll be voiding my warranty VERY early.
>>54355854
Best to just suck it up and pay them. Keep that warranty.
>>54355878
Repair costs that are even a small portion of the price of the computer seem ridiculous though.
And if something goes wrong again, it'll probably be related to my computer falling again, which my warranty doesn't cover.
>>54355920
Sounds like a shit warranty tbqh familia
>>54355932
Do warranties normally cover falls?
>>54355943
>not getting accidental damage protection
Why
>>54355951
Maybe there is accidental damage protection?
I don't know, the reason they want to charge me is because they think I did it myself, because what's the odds that an incredibly hard to remove screen will pop right off after a short fall onto carpet, yanking the cables out in a damaging way in the process?
>>54355971
Damn, that sucks then. Sorry you have to deal with suspicious slime like that. Is there any way you can take it to somebody else?
>>54355985
If I take it in to a repairer that isn't licensed to carry out repairs on Lenovo's behalf, the people holding my computer can just report to Lenovo that I didn't repair with them so obviously if I attempt to repair under warranty again for a future issue and my backlight is working again for reasons they don't have documented, they'll consider my warranty void because of third-party repair.
Saw a ThinkPad x220 posted for $200 on a local website. I want to check if it has an IPS panel. What do I ask the buyer to send me a picture of (serial number? how is it called?) and where do I check it?
>>54356023
Easiest way: ask him to take a picture on the angle like picrelated. You'll know when you see it.
>>54356017
What's the worst thing that could happen if you void your warranty?
They're already charging you hundreds of dollars for a simple repair WITH the warranty.
>>54356083
Usually it'd be free, but since I dropped it and all...
So, how do I go about replacing the cables?
>>54356017
>not going for the nbd on site support
top kek
>>54356077
Should I get it even if it is not an IPS? Is it still worth it? Gonna use it for university.
>>54356143
People don't automatically understand acronyms, especially on a help thread.
Still, at least no one will ever beat the ridiculousness of that one time I noticed a YouTube commenter using an acronym so obscure that when I looked it up, the only usage of the acronym was someone asking on a forum what that acronym meant... in the context of the YouTube conversation in question.
>>54356168
I use my non-IPS X220 in uni. I love it, but the screen is shit. It's so washed out it's unbelievable.
That being said, I don't really care about it. Every time I look at IPS screen listings on ebay I can't help but feel like I can live just fine without spending 75$ on pretty colors.
I'd get it with or without IPS screen.
To that one anon that swore by the quality of IBM laptop bags:
There's an ice cold beer waiting for you in Buenos Aires.
>>54356227
>beer
>drinking the liquid jew
no thanks
>>54356240
Is hot steamy degeneracy your thing, then?
>>54356240
I can't even have beer now because of the goddamn Jews? What else have they ruined?
Can I still eat breakfast?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00U1DHX74/ref=dp_olp_refurbished?ie=UTF8&condition=refurbished
What does /g/ say?
>>54356168
You can easily replace the screen yourself if you want to, takes no more than 10 minutes.
And there's an advatage buying IPS screen yourself, since some panels have pretty bad ghosting issues so you can buy a display where image persistance in a non-issue
>>54356346
>no
SHIT
>>54356727
Way too expensive.
"Refurbished" tag is added to raise the price, it's basically the same as used.
>>54352168
Easy, if you know how to use a screwdriver. Be careful removing the connector from the old panel. Just be patient and take your time.
>>54353441
Yes, did it in my t420. I'm happy with it, but i would prefer a fhd panel.
Old T60 died, just got a T410S on the way. Is it a meme or gg?
>>54357146
gg
RIP T60
>>54354856
>>54355028
T9600 will do well in that machine, I've got a T9600 with a Quadro and it's very usable.
What other laptops have trackpoints besides thinkpads?
Mostache dog is superior ThinkPad pet.
Is anyone else interested in upgrading the shitty screen on their T430? I'm really curious if someone here has done the Alienware screen mod here.
Ok, what should i install on my 32-bit T60?
i alreay have a librebooted T400 which i use daily so i though i might try installing eComstation on this thing and fuck around. Also is there a middleton bios for the T60 or for the X61t?
>>54358577
did you libreboot it yourself? going to flash an x200
>>54358634
Yeah flashed it myself.
I took apart the whole thing and made sure i was flashing the right chip with the right firmware and then i soldered the pins to my RPi and flashed it. The "normal" way to do it is to use a clip instead to avoid soldering but i didn't had any at the time.
>>54358684
nice. what distro are you running ontop of it?
>>54358744
Im distro hopping at the moment, but i had Gentoo on it for a long time.
>>54358488
What?
Toy terrier is clearly the best dog friend for any ThinkPad.
>>54358883
It looks uneasy. I bet he prefers a 2016 RMBP. Let him be, anon.
>>54358958
I know him well, he's an Alienware fag for sure.
>>54358488
>>54358883
those are both dogs for faggots
>>54359013
Oh yah? Why don't you post your dog and we'll tell you how much of a fag your dog makes you.
Hey /g/. I'm getting a t420 in the mail today.
What distro should I install?
Should I go full meme and Install Gentoo?
>>54359131
xubuntu, it just werks.
>>54359131
Arch if you know what you're doing, *buntu if not.
>>54358577
There's a non-whitelist BIOS for the T60. I don't remember if it was a Middleton project though.
>>54359131
why Gentoo/Arch
just use one that just works.
Mint or Manjaro are fine.
>>54359030
only redpilled breeds
>>54360072
aka
>look how small my dick is
>>54360140
k, enjoy your fuccboi lifestyle
Hey /tpg/. I want to get one of the Tablet model X-series, and the only Thinkpad I own is a regular x201. Are all of the pen input systems fairly similar? If I remember correctly they all have a pretty low resolution, but I'm willing to try and work around that to see my work as I draw it, using my wacom tablet and looking up to my monitor gets fairly uncomfortable, and I think this could make my sketches come out more cleanly.
Is rapid boot worth it? And are there any other ways to pimp out my t420?
>>54360272
What? No! Just get a SSD for non botnet boot time increase.
>>54360193
I didn't choose the toy terrier life, the toy terrier chose me.
>>54359691
I mention Gentoo (or I guess Arch) as a possible learning experience. I mean, I'll be having some time over the summer and might want to branch out.
I already have two other machines, one with Jewbuntu and one with Mint, and I'm thinking about seeing other options.
>>54360416
Then you have no better choice other than Gentoo/Arch. They make for great personal systems.
There's always LFS, though.
>>54357124
Got the type number and it has the 1600x900 so we good here. Thanks
>>54360319
>not just putting it on sleep
>>54361386
I dont even do that, i just reboot every 2-3 weeks because of updates (fuck you ubuntu)
I just got an X220, and it has a TN panel
Is changing the panel to the IPS version easy?
>>54362187
>Business laptops are actually discussed here
>Desktop threads are literally anime threads
C'mon, Anon.
> get old laptop from folks
> T520, 4GB ram, no HDD
> Put shit tier HDD in it
> Runs like dogshit
> Upgrade RAM to 8GB and install an SSD
> God tier
>>54362142
actually doing it is easy, finding one is hard however. you have to find a very specific one that doesn't have all the ghosting issues.
>>54362256
>8GB RAM
for what purpose?
4GB is cheaper and better, and you won't even use more than 4GBs.
how can you tell if an x220 has ips? do all i7 models have it?
>>54362256
SSD and Thinkpads are probably the best meme I ever fell for.
>>54359691
>Manjaro
Avoid this dogshit distro like the plague. Just go ahead and install Antergos.
>>54362306
The one named (B3) in the end right?
>>54362594
You need to check the model ID or w/e it's called, mine is a 4291-35G and it has both i7 and TN
Hey whats a good sealant/glue to put back a laptop screen together if the clips are broken? I need something that is serviceable and can be removed easily enough if need be, but also strong enough not to come apart.
anyone have an ideapad 100s?
thinking of grabbing one as a tiny linux machine for watching shit from my media server while I'm in bed
seems decent for the price but I'm not really familiar with these new Atom CPUs
>>54362791
but both are cheap
>>54356837
Can you recommend a supplier for a replacement IPS screen for the X220?
>>54363221
...the clips...
>>54363221
Hot silicone glue
>>54363676
>Hot silicone glue
wat
>>54362578
I do programming that requires me to do things like calculate e or pi to the millionth digit. Those calculations EAT memory
>>54363221
tub+tile silicone sealant, in non-retard amounts
>>54363691
Hot silicone glue
Two questions for /tpg/:
Does anyone have working suspend/hibernate on T420 with +4.1 kernel, I was on 4.4 and it didnt work, manjaro forums said 4.1 works and it does, has 4.5 or 4.6 fixed this issue yet?
And, what options if any are there for using the cdrom bay, I dont ever use the cdrom drive and frankly the noise it makes at startup pisses me off, is there something useful that can be done with it?
I want a new battery for my T410 and I found this, it's good or buy a original one?
http://www.amazon.com/GOPET®-Lenovo-Battery-Thinkpad-SL410/dp/B01COSTS8U/
>>54363249
Why buy one when you can get a x220 with an i5 for the same price or less? There's nothing that really sets apart an ideapad from other notebooks. They have very low storage, underwhelming specs, and are made of cheap materials. The only thing it has going for it is that it's made by Lenovo if that actually matters to you. At least you could upgrade the x220 and turn it into a solid machine.
I have a Thinkpad x61t since it was dirt cheap and I could draw on it. Bought a better pen for better pressure sensitivity and upgraded the ram to 4gb. I love everything about it except it gets really fucking hot. Is it possible to replace the thermal paste?
>>54363966
Yeah, get arctic silver 5 on there and call it a day, these things are old and the paste turns to crud.
Took out DVD drive and put i an extra SSD on the T420 today. feels good man. Easier as pie and lovely dual boot
>>54364008
I just keep a Win7 virtual machine on my mSata SSD. Works like a charm, since I don't need anything more than M$ Office to edit documents once before sending them to customers. The other two slots are taken by HDD's for storing all my donkey and midget porn.
>>54362256
Are you in Australia, anon?
Thinking about getting either and X201 or an X220. Would the power of the X220 be worth giving up 16:10?
>>54356227
Picture?
so cute when they're sleeping
>>54364177
>dell
>>54364177
Looking like a desk baby with that original palmrest, barely any wear.
>>54363811
Nothing aside a second HDD. Ultrabay batteries don't work in T420s.
>>54363829
There's only one brand you can trust for aftermarket batteries.
>>54363924
because it won't be fucking filthy and it won't heat up like a frying pan
>>54364302
Keck.
>>54364359
>Replaces E6400
>>54363763
>>54363676
Will Permatex 81158 RTV get the job done?
>>54364445
did you maybe quote the wrong post?
>>54364468
Oh crap, I meant for
>>54364302
>>54364450
Seems like it'd do the trick, but I don't have any direct experience with that product. I don't know how hard it would be to get off later. Might be worth testing on something else first.
What is the best thinkpad in your opinion?
My absolute favourite is the x200s with WXGA+-screen.
It combines both thinkpad values (stable, functional, does hardly break) with decent specs (quite bright high dpi screen, good battery runtime on the 9c, 8gb of Ram, 3GB/s-Sata, okay-ish cpu) and a small and portable formfactor (weighs less than any newer thinkpad, battery acts as a grip, not too wide so it fits everywhere).
>>54364660
T420 or X220/X230
>>54364660
T500 was the best imo beacue 1200p.
What is a good price for a refurbished X220 with an 2,60 GHz Intel Core i5 254M and 8 gb of ram along with a 160gb ssd?
>>54364660
T601F is perfection.
Welp guys, time to kill myself.
My E6400 came in and I was super duper excited. Turned it on, booted almost immediately- I thought I was set to get to work!
And then the problems layered on.
First, I tried installing K-Meleon. Was dumb enough to disable Internet Explorer as I did too. Moron.
Turns out K-Meleon won't start. Flashes in Task manager and then poof- gone. SO I re-enabled internet explorer and then decided to try and install Pale Moon, only to find out something a lot worse.
Turns out, the spacebar, B, and N keys are ALL dead on my computer.
None else, JUST those three. I'm not sure what to think, because to my knowledge membrane keyboards die completely when they go out, right? If that's true then maybe I can save this thing. If not, the seller gave me a 30-day return policy- though I'm gonna hate having to use it.
Fuck man...
should I buy an r32?
or they are too fucking old to do something?
>>54351151
not related but I have an m6600 but I can't figure what charger it needs since dell laptops are very jealous what you suggest? thanks
>>54366230
If it's anything like a G40, don't.
iirc they were not made by IBM but a Taiwanese contractor.
>>54366344
>If it's anything like a G40, don't.
so if I want a Thinkpad with no touchpad what would you suggest?
>>54366189
remove keyboard, clean, let dry, reinstall, test
if nothing, replace
wipe hdd and start over
im all for you killing yourself but it doesn't really seem necessary anon.
>>54353924
That is an X360 dvd
>>54362578
You can disable swap/pagefile with 8GB.
And web browsers are memory hungry today so it's better to have more.
>tfw Acer buoy iSeries 14xx showed up at my work
>it has some interesting saved bookmarks
>>54348264
Joke... Dunno if it can read it.
>>54353222
A31p, two ultrabays are standard on A3x line
>>54355086
T60p, X61, 755, A20m, maybe a 365... I forget
>>54353947
Playing with a W530 until it sells, T430s is my main, I disliked the X1C3.
Missing the W700ds );
>>54366230
>r32
They are way too outdated. unless you can get one dirt-cheap to fuck around with, but I personally wouldn't bother.
I also kinda hate P4-M, they are way too slow. If you're short on cash, get yourself a T43 or better yet, T61.
>>54366411
x200, or x201 with a x200-swapped touchpad-less palmrest. It's a direct replacement.
>>54362256
I truly wont use a machine without an SSD
>>54366230
Not sure if the R32 is plauged by the RAM problem that slowly kills T23 and T30 machines or has the Blink of Death that happen with T2x units (based upon them, Pentium III or 4)
You could get an R61 without a touchpad I think... Maybe even swap it's palm rest onto a T61... But most likely X200s is the most sensible choice.
>>54348252
Cute setup, but isn't that OS a security risk?
>>54352262
New they did. Not so much now.
Hey there /tpg/, I made the mistake of ordering a Thinkpad X201 screen assembly for my Thinkpad X200 (non tablet).
Looking at it though, is there any reason this wouldn't work? They're the same dimensions and AFAIK use the same type of screen. Am I missing something?
>>54366481
Will that void my return policy though? It was from the amazon seller Laptops Outlet, whose customer service line does nothing but beep at me for 15 seconds then flatline and hang up. Does anyone else have experience with these guys?
Moreso, the B, space, and N keys all feel exactly like the others... the only weird one is the J key which remains functional.
>>54347872
> /tpg/ - ThinkPad General
> Previous Thread: >>54324138
>
> IRC: #/tpg/ on irc.rizon.net
>
> Other business laptops are also
> welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Pr
> ecision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
> ----
> If you're looking for purchase
> advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE
> FIRST. Then post, stating budget
> and requirements (e.g. size and
> performance).
> Don't buy anything OTHER THAN
> T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want
> the Real ThinkPad Experience™
>
> Recommended models:
> T420 - 14", normal size
> X220 - 12.5", lightweight
> ----
> Why ThinkPad? (also applies to
> other business laptops)
>>Used machines are plentiful
> and cheap.
>>Excellent keyboards - tactile
> feel and quiet.
>>Great durability: chassis uses
> a magnesium rollcage for structural
> integrity, with high quality
> plastic body panels.
>>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator
> LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on
> older models.
>>Docking stations that easily
> turns your laptop into a desktop.
>>Easy to repair, upgrade and
> maintain thanks to readily available
> service manuals for every model.
> Spare parts are easy and cheap
> to obtain.
>>The best trackpoint (that red
> thing in the middle of the keyboard).
> Great for those who type a lot
> or hate swiping their fingers
> all over a touchpad.
>>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
> ----
> Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
> http://ktgee.net/tpg
>
> New guides by xsauc:
> http://www.dankpads.com
>
> EPP discount for new ThinkPads
> (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+
> off):
> http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
>
> ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads
> and running GNU/Linux on them:
> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
>
> ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial
> videos:
> https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
>
> ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
> https://imgur.com/a/NlepZhow much weaker is a w520 than http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i7559-763BLK-Full-HD-GeForce/dp/B015PYYDMQ?tag=hardwarevol03-20?
>>54367663
The W520 would beat any Inspiron in a fight. Could probably smash through ten of them before it even started to show any signs of wear.
>>54347872
How is the battery life on the X220's?
>>54366481
Well, moreso, how would you go about cleaning it? It looks as if the keyboard is all in one piece- no way to take it apart. Canned air?
Why do you guys prefer the X220 over the X230? Or any xx20 series really. Is it just the keyboard?
>>54368006
Yeah, that's it. I guess it's also slightly cheaper. I got an X220T for $180 and people on here are saying that's a little high.
>>54368006
>Is it just the keyboard?
It is, there were no other significant changes aside from newer platforms
Maannn, Manjaro 15.09 (KDE) is so amazing, I installedit on my x100e and it run like heaven.
What's your OS for your lovely thinkpad /tpg/?
>>54368006
People prefer the 20 series more due to the old keyboard, however it's possible to put the 20 series keyboard in the 30 series. Generally speaking the 20 series is still better bang for your buck though, the sandybridge cpu still holds it's own very well 5 years later.
The Bluetooth module (BCM2045B) in my X220 shows up via lsusb, but I can't do shit with it. Plasma 5 settings report "No Bluetooth adapters could be found." I see no hard of soft locks. I would be most appreciative of any ideas.
>>54367982
on the bottom should be a few screws labeled K, take them out, flip it back over and with a flat head screwdriver pry the top of the keyboard away from the body carefully, under the keyboard is a ribbon cable, dont fuck it up.
Wash the fucker with water, douse it in alcohol and let it dry for a few hours, then reassemble.
>>54368006
>>54368101
Oh also the cpu on the x220 is upgradeable
>>54368101
How much more would you pay for the Ivey Bridge upgrade? like price v performance
Im seeing x220 for $200 and x230 for $280-340
That's not including the price for an SSD ($80), a couple more GB of RAM ($25) and an IPS display ($80) that ill inevitable get.
Is there a way to do an eternal GPU with a T420 that doesn't require a PSu and other crazy cable managemt and temp safety?
>>54368179
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it's soldered directly onto the board.
>>54368190
Nvm was thinking of t420
>>54368181
For me? I probably wouldn't. Why pay about 1/3 more for performance I probably wouldn't notice.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3520M-vs-Intel-Core-i7-2640M/m50vsm791
They're just benchmarks, but it's something to go off of.
>>54367558
a-anybody?
>>54364157
Feat. T420.
>>54368589
Is there a model number for that? Or link?
>>54368157
Mmh. Will just the alcohol bath work? Last time I used water I broke a perfectly good SK-8115.
>>54368630
I just did it to an acer laptop my brothers dipshit girlfriend drowned in soda, had no issues, if you dont trust me you can always go the clean with water dry with rice route.
>>54367110
So beautiful <3
>>54368713
Well I guess first I have to figure out where these screws are, don't I?
I have a lurking feeling this isn't the keyboard this laptop came with...
>>54367558
I think if you got the entire assembly, you can straight swap the whole screen/lid.
>>54368612
P/N 10K0207
>>54368773
just look for a disassemble video on youtube.
its really simple anon, good luck, im going to bed.
>>54368903
Godspeed. Thanks for your help
>>54366189
Return it $90 should get you a fully working E6400 these days.
>>54350804
Not that guy, but I've got an eGPU on my t420. I used some chinese express card based eGPU setup. Be sure to get one that uses an express card since the mini pci port in the laptop won't support it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-5-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Core-i7-2640M-2-8GHz-320GB-HDD-8GB-RAM-w-Win-7-Pro-/141974015768?hash=item210e4f8f18:g:IsgAAOSw1DtXIPvr
is this capable of running up to three virtual machines?
>>54367393
Yes, that is why you should Upgrade to Microsoft Windows® 10 while it is available for free!
>>54369068
No seriously, Win9x have so many security flaws
>>54369065
Yes. May as well max out the RAM at 16 if you're going to be running VMs.
It's happing soon!
>>54368882
>>54368589
Would you recommend this for taking to uni? Looks pretty nice
>>54369769
what LCD am i looking at here?
>>54370079
One from an Alienware M14X, which is for my T420. It's the screen that you may have noticed being mentioned a lot for the past 5 to 10 threads.
Now I just need to wait for the cable, and I'm good to use it.
>>54370137
oh that one. Is it a glossy screen.
Lenovo, the current maker of Thinkpads, had the Superfish incident 1.5 years ago, where Lenovo allowed installation of software breaking SSL and allowing man-in-the-middle attacks, among other incidents involving data collection. Lenovo is also a Chinese company, with part ownership of the government.
So does /tpg/ stay away from the Lenovo thinkpads, or do they not care the chinese-owned company producing them has repeatedly and intentionally compromised user security.
>>54370557
seeing as the US government has backdoors in intel chips i think its only fair the chinks get to have some fun to. And at any rate would rather the Chinese have more control as that paves the way for comunisum
>>54370657
>backdoors in intel chips
Is this for real? I use an E8400.
>>54370367
No it's a matte screen. The shine you see is the protective film, seeing as I brought it new.
I was really tempted to get a glossy because I do a lot of graphic design, but I take this thing everywhere and I know the shine would eventually piss me off.
>>54371533
the only benefit of glossy is color reproduciton being a bit better. But given that its still a TN panel it does not really matter.
>>54370700
all american hardware has the potential to contain a back door
>>54370700
If it has iAMT it's backdoored.
I'm telling you guys, ARM powered chromebooks are the only safe choice.
Sup guys
Im searching a step-by-step guide to make a hackintosh on the t420.
Any help?
So I'm looking to finally buy a T420.
Are there any big differences between i5 vs i7? Nvidia vs Intel? Recommendations?
>>54362256
Just opening up all the crap I use and all my tabs from the last session eats up 10GB, if it wasn't so expensive I would take a chance with those 16GB DDR3 Sodimms
Is LVDS universal for any laptop? I have a spare T61 panel that I want to use with my desktop, will any LVDS adapter work or do I need some specific one?
>>54372933
I5 vs i7 is meaningless unless it's quad vs dual core. Nvidia gpu destroys the Intel one but it's more for video acceleration and compute don't expect to play games on it. If you don't need it disable it in bios. Better to have the gpu and not need it than one day need it and not have it.
>>54372933
Even though it's the same TDP, the i7 may or may not be more power hungry due to weird shit happening. As for GPU, unless you're not forking out a noticeable amount more, there's no point unless you're playing gaems and even then it's a pretty piss one anyway. Toss a coin or something. See if you can get one with a 1600x900 panel though, life is better that way
>>54373153
Proprietary connections so you'll have to do the pinouts yourself
X220 user here, getting the dreaded 2100 Hard drive error after inserting a 2TB 2.5" HDD.
Admittedly, the drive is a 9mm drive instead of the standard 7mm drive and I did try to force it at one point. The SATA connectors are slightly bent down BUT to be fair the drive is still being detected on boot, but not in an OS.
Any ideas?
>>54366230
that's not an r32. i know because i have one. i bought it a t a flea market for $2 and upgraded the ram to 768mb, now i'm waiting for the battery and the wlan card to arrive. total cost: $25. it's great for shitposying and youtube in 360p.
>>54373691
Try another hard drive or ssd and see if it works.
>>54373724
Will try my old drive in a moment and come back with results!
>>54373716
FUCKING PHONE KEYBOARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
How feasable is it to expect my X220T to last 10+ years? I'm afraid of the battery going to shit with all the replacements gone. Is it even possible to open the battery and replace the cells?
>>54372429
underrated post
>>54372799
I installed Hackintosh triple-boot on my X220 in MBR mode. It's pretty straightforward IF you have access to a Mac. Most of the steps for creating a bootable installation USB require some sort of function or program that is Mac only. Luckily, my friend let me borrow his for a day. You'll need to get the right kexts for your hardware, and some hardware straight up doesn't work. WiFi is the main problem. You can bet your stock card doesn't work. I mainly use it for dicking around in XCode.
Are you able to change your partition structure to UEFI? It will save you a lot of headaches of getting Clover to work with MBR GRUB
>>54373835
You can try replacing the cells yourself. But in 10 years, they'll probably have very energy efficient laptops.
>>54373724
>>54373734
Booted just fine. Must be that particular hard drive. Any ideas as to why I'd be getting the 2100 error on this drive?
It's a Samsung Spinpoint MT9 2TB drive.
bumping the thread from bottom page
I have been looking to get something to do some code in my free time. So I was wondering if someone here there knew any good seller in europe ? On ebay I always find some german sellers, anyone had any experience with any of them ?
>>54371533
God damn. Please do keep us posted on how it works. Is it 1600x900 or 1080p.
>>54375454
I ordered my X220 from a German seller. Go for it. check feedback first, of course.
>>54373835
Maybe stock up on batteries now, like 2 or 3 extras. The laptop its self should last that long
Whats the best way to store a brand new battery? I havent even put it into my laptop. New oem from lenovo btw.
Can someone here tell me their experience with the ThinkPad X1 Carbon?
>>54374080
Sure familia, all infested with backdoors and mandatory always-on webcams.
Fuck this shit. I want my x220T to last forever
>>54375890
Not forever, I don't doubt that a max specced X220 could easily serve you for the next 10 years.
