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Welcome to /fglt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
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>>54328565
" ͏"
>>54328323
I can recommend the Linux Fundamentals series by Daniel Robbins:
http://www.funtoo.org/Linux_Fundamentals,_Part_1
also you might read up on ssh if you don't know it already, that's basically the must-have tool on a phone.
Repost for someone who's bored and want to lend a hand to a clueless anon.
>>54324306
>>54328715
how can you even tell that the vm is running when you have no screen output?`could you just use another vm, like virtualbox?
Can someone tell me which debian release is most "bleeding edge"? Is it testing or unstable?
Are they the same? They sure look the same.
>>54328850
Clearly unstable. The debian wiki plainly explains this.
>>54328850
Unstable, and it's not actually unstable. It's great for anything but critical servers.
>>54328818
No, I mean. OS says there's no display conected. Or at least I what I understand from here.
PS: I manually added that resolution but I can't use it.
>>54328862
>>54328888
So just adding sources list fo sid is enough?
>>54328937
Why don't you just take a look at the wiki? There is a reason people take the time to document this kind of stuff.
>>54328937
Yup.
https://wiki.debian.org/InstallFAQ
My upgrade procedure:=su=
=service lightdm stop=
=apt-get update=
=apt-get -u dist-upgrade=
=apt-get clean=
=service lightdm start=
At least in the past, stuff can break if lightdm is left running. Is this still the case?
>>54328977
I did
>>54329023
If you had then you wouldn't need to ask.
>>54329054
This thread is for literally any question
>>54328881
thanks anon.
>>54329069
What's the point when it is an FAQ on the distro's website? You would trust our advice over the people who created it and maintain it?
So, after a month of testing the waters with Ubuntu, I would like to switch to Debian (testing). However, there's this stupid thing that currently prevents me from doing so. Are there any repos that distribute precompiled retroarch+cores nightlies? I've looked around, but the only solution seems to be compilation from source and I would like to avoid that.
My wifi adapter gives me
>SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted
when I try to put wlan0 up.I think I narrowed it down to this, how do I fix it?
[ 20.553746] Error: Driver 'r8188eu' is already registered,aborting...
Is there any way to have virtual surround sound with a xfi go pro?
I have a SBZ and a xfi go pro, but the Z doesn't get sound, so I'm stuck with the go pro. But the main thing preventing me from using linux more on my desktop is that I can't figure out how to get virtual surround sound to work.
Is it even possible for such a thing to work?
I'm trying to install this shit: https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/3358vu/i3lock_unixpornworthy_lock_screen
But it ain't working... I'm doing something wrong.
I created lock.sh with#!/bin/bash
ICON=$HOME/user/Pictures/Icons/lock-icon.png
TMPBG=/tmp/screen.png
scrot /tmp/screen.png
convert $TMPBG -scale 10% -scale 1000% $TMPBG
convert $TMPBG $ICON -gravity center -composite -matte $TMPBG
i3lock -u -i $TMPBG
saved.
lock-icon.png in the right place.
chmod -x lock.sh
sh lock.sh
I get errors in the terminal.
failederror: Saving to file tmp/screen.png
': No such file or directory @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2709.
' @ error/constitute.c/REadImage/501.image format 'PNG
I'm still learning
>>54329093
He can whatever he wants bruv
>>54328925
Did you install the graphics drivers?
>>54329333
Did you copy that user/Pictures path?
It looks like you should have changed it to match the place you put that lock-icon.png in your computer...
>>54329406
I did, but I don't remember the package. I have radeon 390
>>54329372
Can he though bruv?
Looks like reading FAQs is nothing something he can do.
>>54329433
You need to install the drivers for whatever graphics card hyper-v emulates.
Unless you set up VGA passthrough before.
>>54329432
the only thing i changed was "user" because thats all that needed to change. So that path is right
>>54329433
Also, post output of lspci please.
It normally won't be using your 390
>>54328881
What is the point of ufw?
You can be a lot more explicit with iptables, iptables actually work and it comes with all systems, so learning it is a good thing.
>>54329477
do anecho $HOME
unless you have a weird set up, it should not be /home/user/user/...
so maybe get rid of that second user
>>54328590
HES GONNA EAT IT
plz tell me you have a picture of him eating it
>>54328590
really really like that run gcc sticker.
>>54329497
lspci returns nothing, should I try some option?
>>54329475
Hm, I don't really know what I'm using since the screen adapter is pic related.
>>54328881
>/etc/init.d/gdm restart
that's useless and old. Stop posting outdated information.
>>54329018
> =service lightdm stop=
Ubuntu uses systemd now and that's not how you stop services with it.
>>54329018
>Is this still the case?
I couldn't tell
I literally never had a problem with sid
>>54329538
alright, so I changed it to
ICON=$HOME/Pictures/Icons/lock-icon.png
but I'm still getting the same errors
>>54329333
where's that convert command comes from and what does it do exactly
Do you need anything installed for it to process PNG files properly?
>>54329333alias lock='i3lock -ni <(import -window root png:- | convert png:- -scale 10% -scale 1000% png:-) &>/dev/null'
>>54328590
I got Arch Linux last night on a vm and was almost done with setup when i gotERROR: Root device mounted successfully, but /sbin/init does not exist.
Bailing out, you are on your own now. Good luck.
sh: can't access tty: job control turned off
[rootfs /]# _
plz send help
>>54329583
>>54329661
https://shop.fsf.org/stickers/run-gcc-sticker
I think I'll get one to replace the glider I've had to remove due to its association with ESR who has been ESR too much recently.
>>54329737
I'm thinking imagemagick
>>54329741
what should i do with that
>>54328590
I got a chian Huion something graphics tablet, I don't have it at hand so I can't tell the exact model, how the hell do I select what part of the screen it maps to? Currently I have to disable the second display when I want to use it or it maps to both, which is ultra confusing?
Is it possible to make it map to just one display?
>>54329744
Install CentOS and study for a RHEL or LPIC cert.
>>54329519
Not everyone wants to spend time learning that.
>>54329744
That's still in chroot?
>>54329949
Not everyone needs a firewall on every computer.
But the man page is easy to read and then you write down the rules you find useful.
>>54330045
Sure, but then ufw is much much easier to set up.
>>54330057
So is iptables. If you want to do something like route traffic through another network device or whitelist very specific things, you run into problems with ufw.
So why not use iptables for everything?
>>>54330198
why is it so hard to get it through your thick brain that ufw just werks for most everyone?
>>54330198
Anyone who wants to do those things would not be using ufw in the first place, that is not the user it is designed for. Learning concepts like chains just to set up a simple firewall is not what everyone wants to do.
>>54329584
Bump
My Gentoo install's been fine for the last week or so, and >GNOME has been working nicely. After mucking around with some packages and partitions something weird has happened.
Whenever I boot up, I get whatever remaining bit of console was on the screen and a cursor with no way to log in. What could be causing it?
Check the logs.
Not replying to a specific post since this seems to apply to nearly every problem.
>>54328590
Whats happening
>>54330754
Freedom.
>>54330767
kek
Cant start netctl/systemd-networkd,and various other servies.Pam/polkit keeps killing it when its started.-- Subject: Unit netctl.service has finished start-up
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit netctl.service has finished starting up.
--
-- The start-up result is done.
Apr 30 13:40:44 linux sudo[2328]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root
Apr 30 13:40:44 linux polkitd[8404]: Unregistered Authentication Agent for unix-process:2329:18091839 (system bus name :1.123, object path /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, l
Apr 30 13:40:44 linux sudo[2335]: user : TTY=pts/4 ; PWD=/home/user ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/systemctl start netctl
Apr 30 13:40:44 linux sudo[2335]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
Apr 30 13:40:44 linux sudo[2335]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root
>>54330754
heard that rms shills his gnu stuff after talks.
wish he would talk somewhere close, still keeping an eye on his schedule to see if he ever makes it nearby
>>54328590
Is this a rare Stallman? I've collected for years and literally used to mirror his vacation photos locally and I've never seen this picture.
>>54328715
>>54328925
At the risk of sounding stupid, I think I might have a similar issue. It's not a VM, though, just a dual-boot of Win7 and Xubuntu 16. When I select the X16 boot, the screen automatically goes blank. I know the OS is still running because I can shut down normally with Alt+F4+Enter.
Now that I think about it, this happened when I rebooted after installing the GeForce 310 driver (old computer). Could there be a correlation?
>>54330933
Go away.
>>54330933
is there a shared folder somewhere with you pics?
>>54328715
>>54328818
I THINK this is the difference between "console access" and "connected tty".
*THINK* being the key word.
It's like being connected via serial to a network switch, and gaining console access.
Your VM Viewer is connected (via software) to the VM's console. Which may or may not display graphics. But this is all running as a sort of emulated pseudo-tty. Similar to ssh sessions.
When you connect a monitor to a physical machine, the kernel recognizes this connection as a direct connection, and it creates a tty device and "connects" the monitor, keyboard, mouse to this tty. Which the graphics server then runs on.
I THINK your problem is related to the difference between VNC Screen Emulation & xorg running on a local tty.
I'm still learning too.
>>54330754
its just a tramp begging for money, move on...
>>54328590
holy fuck it's true, rms is turning to pole dancing/stripper shit as he's fucking broke.
>>54329801
look at the xrandr man page, or arandr if you want a gui.
>>54331251
But I'm on X.org
>>54331431
Isn't it all the same thing?
X
X11
x11
xorg
X.org
startx
xinit
aren't they all inherently the same thing?
>>54331526
Yeah, I mean, I didn't know if it made diference than I put up the OS on terminal, and then made up the xinit to start X.org in each login.
>>54331431
pls post pape
>>54331526
Yes and no depending on how you mean it. X11 is kind of like a basic specification, Xorg is an implementation of it, as is Xming, as is Xquartz, as is XFree86 before all of those, and X386 before that.
What should I do if I want to compile something and the dependencies I have from the official repo are outdated? Do I have to compile everything individually until there are no outdated dependencies left?
>>54331653
>>54331251
Then, based on this, what the solution can it be?
>>54331653
>>54332039
get a sane package manger for one.
And yes
Have fun builing each dep and package
>>54332071
Thank you.
How is Linux supposed to be good if you can't even fucking adjust the mouse scrolling speed?
It's a big pain in the ass to browse the internet with this.
Can I install .exe files on linux?
>>54332119wine setup.exe
>>54328590
>There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
i looked for 4) ... god damnit...
oh and just for keeping it related:
when i first installed linux, I went with 2) but I ended up doing 3) because I had no idead what I was doing... (that might explain why I was looking for 4))
Two years later, still running only linux. Best mistake ever.
>>54332119
Can you install .rpm files in Windows?
Is this GNU on windows thing really just a virtual machine slapped on the system? Can you not use the GNU utilities to manipulate files in Windows?
>>54332107
Use xinput
It literally has more options than windows will ever have.
>>54332613
Its ubuntu,its pointless
why do I have 2 systemd's running?
>>54332834
Because systemd wants to hold more of your os under its control
>>54332834
Because fork()ing, probably.
Guise, what do for amd graphics drivers? SHould I sell my graphics card for a Nivida or what?
I currently have a MSI Radeon R7 370
I hate to ask for tech support, but I'm really lost on how to proceed.
Tried to install Windows over an older Ubuntu install, but after trying to partition from the installer it says that it couldn't create a new partition so after reading I have to go in and reformat the partition to FAT32.
Now here's my problem, I can't get any Linux OS to work. The livecds for Ubuntu and OpenSUSE get to the point that they load, but when it should bring me to a desktop the feed to the screen cuts out. I've tried both HDMI and VGA and even a few other lightweight operating systems and nothing is working. Can anyone provide advice? Booting from USB if that makes any difference.
How to fix missing locale in arch?
Every once in a while, I bunch of warning messages likewarning: could not get file information for usr/share/locale/ml/LC_MESSAGES/lightdm-gtk-greeter.mo
with various software (today it's lightdm) when I upgrade.
>>54333269
set your locale and then locale-gen
>>54333269
>using a dm at all
just autologin
Quick, lightweight distro that's not minimal installation
>>54333527
>lightweight
>minimal
Pick one
>>54333355
my /etc/locale.conf only containsLANG="en_US.UTF-8"though. I don't know why I have the warning for every other languages I don't need.
>>54333125
>I have to go in and reformat the partition to FAT32
I highly doubt that is the case in 2016.
> when it should bring me to a desktop the feed to the screen cuts out
Try adding the parameter nomodeset to the kernel command line (eg in the grub kernel select screen)
>>54333592
Why would I not be able to pick both of those?
Trying to create a bootable DBAN flash drive to wipe some HDD's I intend to use for my Fathers new laptop/desktop, however when using the dd command all seems well, but when I attempt to boot it goes straight to the operating system, the boot order is all correct etc, maybe there is a problem with the latest iso?
For reference, this is the dd command I use;
dd bs=4M if=/home/user/path-to-iso of=/dev/sdx && sync
>>54333527
Fedora 23 server
Let's you choose what to install, install it with i3 and you're golden
>>54333757
Have you tried the same flash drive on another computer and successfully booted on DBAN?
If it's a "quick and dirty" wipe you need, you candd bs=4M if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdx
I guess it would be enough, except if your father is a computer scientist at the NSA and willing to spend hours trying to recover your porn collection.
>>54333710
>nomodeset
RIGHT! I had this same fucking problem months back! Thank you that fixed it. And you were right about the FAT32 thing, but I now have to do more formatting in linux anyway so it wasn't for nothing!
looking for a light weight distro for my netbook.
>>54334160
All distros are lightweight and run on every toaster.
http://appimage.org/
discuss
>>54334160
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_Linux_distribution
Lubuntu is probably the lightest mainstream distro, but I don't really know enough to vouch for a particular option.
with sed
I have two patterns with things that have characters that escape.
In bash you can get around this by echoing as "$var1"
Now for sed,
I want to replace the string var1 with the string var2"
I've been trying to dosed -i "s/'$var1'/'$p2'/g" file
but it doesn't work
Any ideas?
>>54334861
p2 = var2 sorry
>>54333050
Anyone? I need help pls. Xorg has already gone out once and is liable to again.
We used to have Gnutella file sharing network generals. Anyone know what happened to them?
>>54334508
Snaps seem to be about the same, but sandboxed by default.
Ubuntu only and require root to install, I think.
I have a laptop with Intel integrated graphics.
Is there some way I can change the saturation of the colors? They appear all washed out. I can do it in Windows obviously but I don't know how to do it in linux.
>>54334861
The variables will not expand inside '' quotes.
sed -i "s/$var1/$p2/g" file
>>54332834
One is probably your user session.
>>54335592
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/intel_graphics#Weathered_colors_.28color_range_problem.29
>>54336078
Thanks for the link anon.
So I'm basically fucked? Guess that's what I get for getting a shitty laptop.
>>54336166
Have you tried the xrandr thing?
>>54336179
Yeah, it still looks the same.
>>54336166
>tfw tried 3 laptops with intel GPUs
>they all worked
>with every new laptop that I try, the chance to run into one which has that issue increases
Share some of the nice little things.
>making your terminal emulator go fullscreen (F11)
>Install Gentoo
>/ can't be found after boot, forgot an important symlink, fuck!
>No network after initial reboot, forgot to compile the driver in, fuck!
>Install DE after two hours of waiting (read: masturbating)
>Packages want abi_x86_32 flag because I forgot to set ABI_X86="64 32" in make.conf, fuck!
>Wait another two hours for the rebuild to finish
>Start media player, there is no sound because I forgot to put the driver in, fuck!
And this wasn't even my first install. Well, now it's running smoothly.
>>54336482
Also kernel rebuilds for the drivers took only like 15 seconds each, not a big deal. Finding the fucking option in the plethora of device drivers however...
>>54336475install-gentoo() {
str="${@:-Install Gentoo}"
clr() { printf '\033c'; }; clr
while :; do
printf '\033[%s;%sf\033[%sm%s\033[m' \
"$((RANDOM%LINES))" \
"$((RANDOM%$((COLUMNS-${#str}))))" \
"$((RANDOM%8+30))" \
"$str"
read -s -n 1 -t .01 && clr && break
done
}
>>54328590
does stallman shave his arms and legs?
>>54336555
>shaving arms and legs
What are you, a woman?
>>54336555
Gays not welcome.
>>54336565
>>54336573
Look at OP's picture. It looks like he has no hair on his arms or legs.
>>54336573
i used to shave everything but the hair on my head, and i was straight as a nail my friend nothing gay about it.
>>54336596
>>54336604
This thread is about GNU/Linux. It is NOT a thread about homosexual fantasies; please leave to different thread.
>>54336619
>/faglets/
>>54336640
DELET THIS
>>54336672
ok moving on, is the bash in osx the same as the bash in gnu/linux?
>>54334861
You know those single quotes are literal right? Anything more and we would need to know what the patterns are to hel.
>>54336730
It basically is, but OS X ships a very outdated binary, many things don't work as espected. That's the main reason macfags switch to zsh.
>>54336730
Probably an older version if you are using the system one.
>>54336730
Yes.
>>54336783
No.
How would I covert the output of "ls" to an image? I guess Imagemagick could do this?
>>54337137
nvm solved it
>>54332368
How do you even open that shit?
my chink earbuds get mad static when I plug them into the computer but it's fine with a phone
wat do, I have a feeling this is a hardware not a software problem
>>54336509
I like this more than I should
>>54338524
I had an issue like that on a laptop that only had this issue when the power was plugged in.
Do you use alsa or Pulseaudio? Where did you plug it in? Monitor or the back of your mobo?
>>54338524
Should have gotten a real sound card, not those cheap chink shit onboard sound chips.
>>54338557
>>54338599
pulseaudio
oh and I guess I didn't mention it's a laptop, so it's on the side.
It's weird because this also doesn't happen with my ™Razer™ ™gaymur™ headset.
>>54338599
Onboard is usually better actually.
>>54338740
Maybe it's an impedance issue then? Is it recordable?
Try purging Pulseaudio just to see, this helps more often than it should.
>>54338930
>Onboard is usually better actually.
Maybe if you buy those 30 yuro/dorra ones.
>>54328590
Should I install Ubuntu 16.04 over Arch Linux because snaps seems like a based concept?
>>54339139
What do you have right now?
>>54339139
Snaps seem like they bloat your system. Having different versions of the same program installed works without it.
Wait for the guix package manager or the one in nixos (if that is still bring developed)
how would i be able to test my wacom tablet pressure in a terminal?
>>54339139
The fact that you're asking that says that you don't even need or use Arch, or any distribution for that matter.
>>54339443
>hurr durr my elitism Ubongo btfo
he fell for Canonical's marketing promises. It happens.
>>54339139
no, Ubuntu sucks and snaps are useless.
>>54339443
>The fact that you're asking that says that you don't even need or use Arch
Okay Francis.
>>54334053
Thank you for that, fortunately he isn't and that worked perfectly
>>54339763
Np. Glad I helped.
>>54339634
>cinnamon
jesus christ
>>54339837
What should I use, Deepin or Plasma?
>>54339867
I'm thinking I should just use the best there is and add the Unity-for-Arch repository and install Unity.
>>54339915
I was actually considering it, but if you want Unity you might as well use Noobuntu®
>>54339915
I can't understand why anyone would use Unity over Gnome. If you want simple - nothing is simpler than Gnome. If you want configurable, Plasma. Lightweight? Xfce, Lxde or any WM.
Unity and Cinnamon are frankenDEs with no style or substance
>>54339979
Unity's sidebar and search window looks much better IMO
also coming over from wangblows Workspaces don't see very useful unless you have *****GB of ram
>install a new theme
>change menu appearance
>Ubuntu now crashes after startup
I've had enough of this meme OS.
>>54340067
Unity has themes?
>>54340028
just made this to compare. Which one looks best?
Personally Gnome>Plasma>Osx>Unity, but I will concede that Plasma's application overview runs much better on my crappy old laptop with integrated intel graphics
>>54340077
Unity is using GTK you intelligence monster.
>>54340234
GNOME application menu is a clusterfuck so I open that screen like once a year.
KDE I've never tried but I'm pretty skeptical as I like my bloat in moderation.
I just want the fucking Unity Dash with gnome or xfce.
>>54340341
I hope I haven't given you a false impression - I'm not trying to convince you or anyone which one you should use, I am just curious about your and other anons' opinions.
>>54340067
it's not like /g/ didn't warned you about unity being shit.
>>54339139
>install various software coming with snap
>some of them are using on specific library
>you have the same library multiple time on your system
>a vulnerability is found in this library
>it's patched
>only 75% of your programs provide the patch for it
>20% will provide it the next time they'll send an update on their software which means in one or two months
>5% will not send anything and will keep a vulnerability.
Am I the only one worried about that ?
>>54340583
you are not, this is one of the main issues with how windows works actually. it's part of the reason why i prefer package managers.
>>54339867
>filepickerpepe.jpg
>>54340714
>draganddropwojak.apng
>>54340757
>gtk_cuck.gif
>>54339501
>>he fell for Canonical's marketing promises. It happens.
I wonder who is behind this.
>>54340822
Didn't know which one is better, so here, alternative.
>>54340822
>program packaged with all needed libs and shit
That's the concept of .exe, isn't it?
I guess new users will feel at home.
>>54340828
This one.
>>54340805
>>54340714
Welcome to GNU/Linux, where people have open source code, but nobody get's their ass up to be the change he wants for his sytem.
Tippers:
https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/jkisielewicz/gtk2-filepicker-iconview/
Amazuntu:
https://launchpad.net/~helkaluin/+archive/ubuntu/gtk2-filechooser-iconview
Arsch Linux:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view/
Absolute Madmen:
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/01213036b58e510dc074
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/49c1d0eea4b64f24c4c7
If you're used to Windows, is there a reason to switch to Linux?
>>54341148
yes, there is reasons. But windows users prefer to ignore all of them and tell us we're retards and "muuh game", "muuh photoshop".
>>54341148
>Reply
No.
Linux only offers ideological advantages for the most normie user cases.
If you're a programmer, in other way…
>>54341288
This.
The primary reason, Freedom, aside, it's also even possible to run all Windows programs in a VM with GPU passthrough - it just needs a bit work. Should be mentioned in the OP if you ask me. Photosph even runs fine in WINE.
>>54341313
>ideological
So human rights like privacy are just "ideological advantages"?
Favorite terminal font?
>>54341391
Yes, because they're aren't material.
I'm using a 4.1 LTS kernel because the newer ones gave me various weird bugs whenever I've used them. For how long can I expect it to be supported (if it still is at all)? Am I compromising my security in some way by doing this?
>>54341148
good Desktop Environments (this includes features you never used but will not be able to stop using once you did get a taste of them), Free software, package managers, runs on almost everything, you are not dependent on a company, bugs are addressed very quickly...
>>54341412
I tried tons of bitmap fonts and always come back to Terminus. It's pretty based.
If you like bitmap fonts, here is a good site with previews: https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
If you like vector fonts in you terminal, you should commit sudoko.
>>54341412
Source Code Pro is pretty nice.
>>54341288
I remember an article talking about game developers that did their games for linux. Since they didn't made some crap port from windows to linux but instead made something good for both system, they noticed better performances on linux.
All the games that were made for linux runs better on it than windows despite the hardware support.
> Freedom
Nope, vanilla Linux comes with binary blobs, which violate my freedoms.
People should seriously stop to assiciate open source software with free software.
>>54341452
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made of service by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is broadly used now is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, created by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the habitat of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>54341558
meant to quote >>54341452
>>54341391
>freedom is tangible
Next you'll be telling us that licences are tangible too, because you can print them out.
What's the default terminal font in Botnet 10?
>>54341558
Linux is free software under gpl2, i do agree that the inclusion of binary blobs is an issue, but you can compile it without any binary blobs without problems and some distros even come with linux-libre or a deblobbed linux.
>>54341862
Afaik Debian is using a deblobbed Linux by default too, right?
>>54341890
right. you can install binary blobs as modules on it if you absolutely have to.
>>54341815
I guess it's Consolas, so here my result:clear; printf '\033]50;xft:consolas:style=regular:pixelsize=16:antialias=true:hinting=true\007\033]10;#ffffff\007\033]11;#140032\007Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.10586]\n(c) 2015 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.\n\n'; PS1="C:\$(pwd | sed 's:/:\\\\\\\:g')> ";
r8 h8 masterb8
It's made for urxvt, if it works in other terminals, pls report back.
Is it possible in PCmanFM to have the "preserve this folders settings" apply recursively to all sub folders. I want to have the compact view for my music directory and all the artists subdirectories but the preserve option only applies to the top level so when you change the view back all sub directories are on thumbnail view again.
>>54341217
Yeah, I can appreciate the ideological reasons for using it but they don't matter to me too much when it comes to my OS.
>>54341313
Well I am a programmer but I don't do too much on my home machine and even then I've got Cmder and so on set up.
Trying to extract .7z's within sub folders and extract them to the basedir.
This dosent seem to workfind. -type f -name "*.7z" -exec 7z x {}
>>54341558
You're freely able to freely change your free kernel to which ever frees you like
>>54338524
if you're using alsa as a back end to pulseaudio (pulseaudio-alsa package), install alsa-utils. Once you installed it type alsamixer into the terminal, press F6, look through all the options until you find "Loopback Mixing" and disable it. For my machine this will fix it, and if I remember correctly the "Loopback Mixing" option doesn't show up unless your kernel is version 4.4 or higher.
I think what it is trying to do is loopback audio from your headphones built in mic (whick doesn't exist (on my headphones at least)) back into the headphones so it is easier to hear yourself when you speak.
>>54342591
pulse uses alsa no matter what,its written to use alsa .
>>54342656
My mistake. The confusion came from installed Arch, it didn't have sound until I installed pulseaudio-alsa. Is there a reason it isn't installed as a dependancy for the pulseaudio package?
>>54342707
ALSA includes both Linux kernel component with sound card drivers, and a userspace component, libalsa. PulseAudio builds only on the kernel component, but offers compatibility with libalsa through pulseaudio-alsa.
>>54341447
bump
>>54342763
kernel.org next time
Are there any advantages to using Debian Unstable over Ubuntu in a desktop?
>>54342864
Yes
>>54342864
Not really
>>54343119
What are those advantages?
>>54343132
>not depending on a company like canonical
>really fast bugfixes
>more up-to-date software (only makes sense if you need it as it comes at the cost of stability)
>active community of people that know what they are doing
>great installer
>true rolling release
because we are on /g/:
>the logo
>>54343258
If I don't really *need* bleeding-edge, is Debian Testing a good compromise between new but reasonably stable?
>>54343303
it is most of the time, but if something you need breaks right before the freeze you might have issues.
unstable is not as unstable as you may think. if you read
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable
and
https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
and follow them you will most likely be fine. but you should know how to submit a bug report in case you find something.
>>54341412
based 6x13
Also, fuck vector fonts unless you are using 4k/retina/insert buzzword
Using flac to decode a file prints this annoying message for each file. Is there a way to suppress it? The -s flag suppresses everything, including the useful progress info.flac 1.3.1, Copyright (C) 2000-2009 Josh Coalson, 2011-2014 Xiph.Org Foundation
flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are
welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. Type `flac' for details.
Migration.flac: 92% complete
>>54330907
Anyone? Its been going on for a week now. I've tried everything listed in forums/bug reports.
Any idea?
>>54343707% flac /tmp/1.wav 2>&1 | tail -n+6
1.wav: WARNING: skipping unknown chunk 'LIST' (use --keep-foreign-metadata to keep)
1.wav: wrote 7169698 bytes, ratio=0.412
Alright, /fglt/, I need some advice...
TL;DR: What's a good distro for beginners that scales well with / takes advantage of a 4k screen?
I've had this Lenovo laptop for a while and while the laptop itself is lovely I just cant stand windows anymore.
I've been meaning to switch for a while but my dependancy on solidworks is too damn high.
Today I figured its either time to leave solidworks and otherwise use some wine in a pinch.
The laptop has a 4k screen that I haven't taken advantage of because scaling was shit on windows 8.1 and overall terrible experience.
It also keeps asking me to switch to windows 10 which would probably help, but I don't want that shit either.
I only kept windows on it so far because I didn't want to bother changing OS...
Now I'm looking for a distro that will help me get more comfortable with gnu/linux. I've tried ubuntu and mint previously, with mixed results. Didn't like ubuntu's UI. I liked mint to some degree, but I'd like to try something different.
What are your suggestions for a beginners distro? Can you reccomend some distros in particular that scales well with 4k?
Thanks!
>>54343823
So, it redirects stderr to stdout, printing everything and then piping that through tail which hide the copyright notice by skipping the first 6 lines?
That's actually pretty neat, assuming the copyright notice will always occupy 6 lines. Thanks.
>>54343893
GNOME3 works really well with HiDPI. so i'd suggest debian with gnome. or buntu with gnome is probably okay.
>>54342263
Tryfind . -type f -name "*.7z" -exec 7z x "{}" \;
>>54342293
You're right, but this is not Linux' default state, wich is shipped with all main distros. You're argumenting like a Windows user:
>you can turn it off
>>54344161
You're misinformed.There are various distros that ship with "-libre" options.
You're showing your macintosh mentality.
>>54339139
snaps are not there yet.
maybe wait until MIR comes out, snaps should be more widespread then
>>54344120
Exits without doing anything.
>>54344230
try -regex instead of -name
>>54343963
I was considering something with KDE, do you think would that work too? I just like KDE's look better. Or can you change it on the fly without inconveniences?
>>54344269
-iregex
What does it mean if every time I startx tint2 has a semi-transparent ghost tray, which I can't interact with, with the wrong date and time a bit to the left on top of the real tray, which functions just fine? When I kill and restart tint2 it's fine.
>>54344230
-iname *7z should also work
>>54344272
changing your DE is not much of a problem usually so just try stuff. i am not sure how good KDE is with scaling.
you sound like you don't have a lot of experience yet, are you sure you would like KDE over GNOME (or any other DE)? did you test them yet?
>>54344297
It maybe autostarts too early. Try adding a sleep.
>>54344269
>>54344282
errors outfind: paths must precede expression: x
>>54344339
find . -iregex *.7z -exec 7z x "{}" \;
>>54344306
I'm not sure, no.. but I've heard that KDE is very customizable and I was kind of sold by a video I saw featuring it.
I should probably try gnome and maybe change environment later.
Is there a big difference in the ubunto flavours or is it basically just the environments?
Hi fellas
So cubuntu was quite a dissapointment. What's the best obanto flavor for adding Cinnamon after? Lubuntu maybe? Xubuntu? I'm looking for a light distro that won't explode if I download and use Cinnamon later on.
pic unrelated
>>54344388
in the buntu world the difference are pretty much just the desktop environments. KDE is very good at presenting their stuff but it's not like it's the only good DE, there are quite a few.
from a usability standpoint, things like i3 or GNOME are probably easier and make more sense. but i am biased.
>>54344386
Still nothing.It just exits with no error
>>54344388
>customizable
If you want to customize a lot, don't use a DE at all.
Is anybody using fucking xfce? That indicator plugin is bugged as shit but as I see its the only thing that can show sound control icon. Are there any alternatives? Notification Area doesnt show sound (of all fucking icons).
/fglt/ please tell me you're able to write a simple find command, I'm scared
>>54344474
I used xfce until recently. Had the same issues and wasn't able to fix it. I did not write a bug report. Maybe you could.
>>54344482find . -type f -name "*.7z" -execdir 7z x {} \;
>>54344482
What do you need? Did you read man find yet?
>>54344432
Right, Thanks!
I'm feeling more confident that I should just dive in and get comfortable with it all.
>>54344330
I put "sleep 1 &" above "tint2 &" in my xinitrc, and nothing changed but a long pause before x started up. Am I missing something basic or could it be a different problem? I wouldn't mind just killing and restarting tin2 in xinitrc but I'd rather figure out what's actually causing this.
>>54344497
Im fighting with this piece of shit for a long time now and I've always managed to tweak it so it would look like a fucking complete DE but not anymore, since I switched to 16.04 it seems my tweak methods do not work anymore. I am so pissed at xfce, are those people fucking retarded ,do they even use their shit DE? I cant belive I will have to use that fucking bloat fucking KDE but that shit at least have a theme that doesnt break or overlaps on edges of sys tray programs and popup windows. FUCK
>>54344559
These people you are unreasonably mad at are a small team of volunteers that try to do their best. Something as trivial as a volume bar indicator is just not in their main focus right now because they try to adapt gtk3. Being pointlessly mad at things that really don't deserve hate is not healthy.
I don't even use xfce anymore.
>GNOME is just a cursor
fug
Should I try to reinstall it.
>>54344746
you could try to use gnome on x11 instead of wayland if your gpu doesn't support it yet.
>>54344746
You should try to uninstall it.
>>54344746
>>GNOME is just a cursor
I guess they reached their goal of simplicity.
>>54328590
Hi, using Mint 17.3, some weird shit started happening yesterday. I can only connect to wifi hotspots so I share it from my phone but I can't connect to my home network or any other that
isn't hotspotted. Wtf?
>>54344692
Like its fucking hard to integrate a fucking MAJOR thing like sound icon into notification area thus removing the need to ever use buggy as hell piece of shit Indicator plugin.
Do you even know for how long this had been a problem? Only DE that needs two fucking programs to be able to show all fundamental system icons like sound.
How do I prevent a binary from using the internet?
>>54344763
I might do that, what WM would you recommend?
>>54344787
you mean like with firejail?
>>54344785
Gnome has had a broken file explorer for the last two years, with the devs marking the problem as WONTFIX.
The patches are out there (applied out of the box by ubango etc.) but Gnome themselves and many distros refuse to apply it.
That doesn't make me mad at gnome itself, just the fuckheads who are in charge, but ultimately I can fix it so it's more of a "why can't you do this to make life easier for normies" request.
XFCE however, has never been and will never be a "normie-friendly" DE, so seriously just patch it yourself, or use something idiot-proof.
>>54344889
They don't apply it because GTK2 isn't under development anymore; they're working on GTK3, and for GTK3 are no patches written.
Only because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's made of gay.
>>54344792
Depends what you want from it. Coming from GNOME I'm assuming you want stacking, so you should probably try openbox, windowmaker, and fluxbox before anything else. Or if you don't want to have to configure a WM you can just go with LXDE which is babby's first preconfigured openbox setup. If you're feeling adventurous enough to try out a tiling WM I suggest awesome, though i3 is also popular.
How do I do this GPU passthrough thing to play Windows games on Arch?
>>54344970
You google it, there are multiple verbose guides on it out there
That said I wouldn't try it unless you have a lot of free time to burn. it's kind of a headache. But if you get it working, more power to you
>>54344970
it sounds like it might go way over your head
last i checked it far from simple to do
>>54344970
You wait a couple of years until such a feature becomes mainstream
Right now it's a huge pain in the ass. It's better to just have a small partition of Windows for vidya, really.
>>54344917
It used to work fine, actually had an option that allowed switching between the old (correct) and new (retarded) functionality, but they removed it for no reason.
If it had always been a missing feature then fair enough, the "we don't support version x any more" argument holds, but no, they just broke it and ran away.
Question: Basically, if I have 2 HDDs, one with a GNU/Linux distro on it and one with Windows, and when I want to play games, I just switch the boot order in BIOS, my GNU/Linux drive should be completly save from any botnet faggotry, right? Or am I missing anything? I think that's more comfy than dualbootin, isn't it?
>>54345044
I booted into windows and now I cant boot into linux
>can't access tty job control turned off
Cant do anything with sudo,my sudoers is correct and hasent changed in 5 years.
What the hell happened?sudo: sorry, you are not allowed to preserve the environment
>>54344558
Do (sleep 2s && tint2) &
So what ever happened with lo/g/os, guys?
Is it dead? Are there any ongoing efforts to create a /g/ distro or is that dream kill?
>>54345212
That worked nicely. Thanks.
>>54345294
Depending on your desktop environment/window manager, it might be better to start tint2 from its autostart file instead of xinitrc. I'm using Openbox and it has a convenient autostart file in .config/openbox. I'm pretty sure other environments have such a file too. That way you can ensure that all your stuff starts definitely after your desktop has finished initializing.
>>54345350
I'm using openbox too, and that's a pretty nice feature. I didn't realize I had it since I wasn't running openbox-session. I'll keep it in mind.
have opensuse installed along side win 10, it goes to the green screen with the three loading orbs for a few seconds then goes to a black screen and hangs.
having a hard time installing any distro, most of them freeze on some graphical glitch after install assuming its got something to do with my 7870le but this issue really should of been fixed years ago
>reading ubuntu forums
>someone actually recommends installing foobar2000 in wine just to convert audio files and listen to music
>>54345701
kok tep
is there any linux distro where you can easily make shortcuts to programs without having to use the console?
>>54345701
kek, care to post a link?
>>54345629
Why aren't you running openbox-session?
>>54345727
That has nothing to do with the distro. Most file managers can do that, spacefm certainly can.
>>54345732
I've seen it multiple times. This is the latest sighting, but on the Mint forums:
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=25318#p867306
Will a PPA that describes itself as "for Ubuntu 14.04" work on Debian?
>>54345727
Install gmrun or dmenu.
>>54345785
it probably will. are you sure it doesn't make more sense to compile it yourself?
>>54345806
Yes since some of the dependencies are outdated on my system as well.
So this is my second install of ArchLinux. Do you think my font rendering is working? I think it is kind of alright on chromium but it is just awful in my terminal. I remember following this on my last Arch install, and it worked:
http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/better-font-rendering-in-linux-with.html
But for some reason I can't follow the instructions in that link to configure it.
Then I tried following this vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnA8KS4BGVs
And I clearly saw some change made, but my terminal still feels odd. I'm using sans font which I used on my last install and it looked great.
Thanks for helping.
>>54345213
it went pretty well. You could install it. I don't remember if they finished their software to make ricing easier.
Now the project is just dead.
>>54345754
Because I only recently liberated myself from xfce and only just decided to use openbox yesterday. Also I'm still kind of new to non-windows OSes and manual text file configuration. I'm quickly, but this sort of thing happens. Thanks for the help.
>>54345834
Just use a monospace font in the terminal.
>>54345044
I don't get what you're trying to do here, but just install grub on your linux system, select this drive on the bios, and just use your damn computer instead of doing stuff like that.
Windows can't read ext4 anyway, why do you bother with all this mess ?
>>54345834
How I love it when DE-applications just call themselves "Terminal".
>tha actual name may confuse the user, just call it "File Manager"
kekek
>>54345834
Nigga, just copy this file and put it in the appropriate location. Enjoy your great fonts without having to install bloated, unknown packages.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration/Examples#No_hinting_for_italic_or_bold
I'm a GNU/Linux noob trying to get /tmp mounted as tmpfs, but I can't figure it out. I addedtmpfs /tmp ttmpfs nodev,nosuid,size=4G 0 0to /etc/fstab, but /tmp stays on the disk even after rebooting. Next I tried typingsystemctl enable tmp.mountin the terminal, but /tmp is still on the cache.
What the fuck am I doing wrong?
>>54345889
.desktop files have a GenericName= field where applications can specify exactly that. Then the menus displaying them have an option where you can toggle the displaying of generic or the actual names. Some people prefer generic names and others don't.
Those "DE" applications don't call themselves terminal. GNOME's terminal is called GNOME-terminal, Xfce's is called xfce4-terminal, LXDE's is called lxterminal.
>>54345906
>still on the cache.
Meant still on the disk.
Look what I found: >>54345954
>>54345683
at that loading screen if you hit the esc key it shoult take move the loading screen out of the way and let you see what it's doing to see where shit is going wrong
>>54345906
Try /mnt/tmp
>>54345974
I get pic related
athlon 750k
AMD 7870 le
>>54345758
>>54345798
thanks
>>54346048
only thing I can think to tell you is try taking out your vidya card and booting without it
I can't update my stuff in Arch because I get this error:
could not satisfy dependencies:
gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view: requires glib2-patched-thumbnailer
And I can't remove it because it gives me another error:
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view: removing glib2-patched-thumbnailer breaks dependency 'glib2-patched-thumbnailer'
What do I do!
>>54346614<aurhelper> -S gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view glib2-patched-thumbnailer
>>54346741
Thanks! I just did it but I get this error
error: missing 'glib2>=2.46' dependency for 'pamac'
and the other error still persists when I try to update via package manager.
Curious if anyone has implemented something like this, can anyone run me through how to do this? (I'm running a machine with Jewbuntu and one Mint w/ MATE.)
I want to have a DuckDuckGo search bar in one of my panels/taskbar, and particularly, I want to be able to bind it to a shortcut key.
How can I go about doing this?
