Could VR provide breakthrough treatment for social anxiety?
One could potentially create a safe virtual environment where the sufferer could practice social skills without fear of rejection or judgment.
Some sort of facial muscle movement recognition system could detect the emotion expressed by the user, and adjust the therapeutic VR experience accordingly.
It also could potentially be used for treating other mental illnesses such as depression.
socail anxiety should be treated with benzos like xanax.
>>54252606
fuck off big pharma motherfucker why don't you drink boiling mercury while you're at it?
>>54252593
Nah.
I don't think it'll ever go away... at least for me.
I have it pretty much under control but I'll still sometimes get adrenaline rushes at the super market/etc.
No way VR would do that to me. Talking in a public voip server more likely to trigger anxiety in me than a single player game.
The more you just force yourself to do things that make you uncomfortable the more it lessens. If i go a few days without being out in public it comes back.
Just remember nobody gives a fuck about you. Always helps me get out there...
>>54252593
That might mess people up worse and not be a real cure.
The only real way to fix those problems without medicine is exposure therapy and you need real human contact for that something AI isnt advanced enough to replicate.
Some high doses of psychoactive tryptamines would produce far better results.
>>54252701
>tryptamines
Please elaborate.
>>54252593
The way I see it it will cause even moral withdrawal from society.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WvvN7jMyWs
>>54252771
DUDE ACID
>>54252593
>social anxiety
I managed to solve it by developing two persona, the first is the real me.
The second is the manipulative asshole.
>>54252816
I think more than 50% of social anxiety disorder sufferers aren't weeaboos with 2D waifus.
>>54252593
I think VR will be a great way to learn skills in the comfort of your home. i.e. practise public speaking, learn golf swing, how to drive etc.
>>54252593
Social anxiety is a meme disease losers claim they have so they don't have to actually work for anything in their lives.
The best treatment is a slap around their face and making them actually take responsibility for their lives.
>>54252675
This.
>>54252606
Solving problems by getting high doesn't actually prevent them.
>>54252681
>>54252816
Correct, VR will put fuel on the fire to society. People have a hard enough time getting off phones, entertainment and porn. VR will likely be the irreversible end of society.
>>54252701
Maybe this combined with exposure and nutrition (magnesium, less junk food).
>>54253161
Also true. Anime watchers are a minority and a lot of them have behaviorally-induced social withdrawal as opposed to an inherent issue
>>54252675
>talking over VOIP gives me an anxiety attack
Oh my God you are such a fucking faggot.
Funny how you seem so...proud of that though, huh? Almost like you're just looking for attention.
>>54252816
when you have instant gratification like this, there's no reason to treat social anxiety. just ride the addiction until the train crashes
>>54253351
>pot calling the kettle black
thank you for your expertise, mr. solid as a rock
>>54253297
I have a GearVR app that puts a virtual audience in your vision to practice presentations in front of people called "Public Speaking"
Works nicely.
>>54253403
I could do with something like that
>>54253370
I'm not even going to bother trying to draw this out longer than it needs to be. You're trolling. There is no way talking to people you don't know, over anonymous VOIP while playing an online video game, sets off you're anxiety.
You are attention seeking. Why?
>>54253479
>there's no way something irrational can be a symptom of a health issue
not him btw
>>54253505
'Social anxiety' isn't a health issue. It's a meme millennial thing.
Think back to people storming the beaches at Normandy. Those guys were like 18, no life experience, seeing their buddies getting fucked by German machine gun fire all around, and they still managed to do it.
And you're telling me that now, 80 years later humans have changed so much that saying 'Good Game' over team speak can leave a human being in floods of tears.
There is no such thing as social anxiety, there is only personal weakness.
>>54253542
you can call it whatever you want
but that guy gave more information and insight on a problem than your waste of a post
>>54253479
>There is no way talking to people you don't know, over anonymous VOIP while playing an online video game, sets off you're anxiety.
I couldn't join raids on WoW because of social anxiety when it was at its worst.
>>54253563
I call it a meme disease that pussies use as a crutch not to have to grow up.
And you want insight? The only insight you need is for him to grow the fuck up.
>>54253579
>I couldn't join raids on WoW because of social anxiety when it was at its worst.
Oh cool, are we pretending things that didn't happen actually did for attention?
Let me try.
>I walked on the surface of the moon with no suit and survived.
Faggot.
>>54253351
>>54253479
>>54253542
>>54253585
Kek, stop embarrassing yourself. Not either of them btw cuck0ld
>>54253681
By 'embarrassing yourself' do you mean 'being right', and by 'kek' do you mean 'please stop because I pretend social anxiety is real because it allows me to force my problems off on something other than my own lack of effort'?
>>54252593
>Some sort of facial
Yeah, I'd love to use it for that.
>>54253715
>>54253585
You could just be shitposting but I am glad for you that you don't struggle with such a mundane thing as talking. I am so used to people not getting it that your aggressive posts just feel familiar.
I don't complain or take pills or drink or anything, but it is a real thing and if you really do not possess enough empathy to at least not try to harass people regarding their problems then I instead feel more sorry for you than anyone with anxiety/depression.
i have a bro who claims social anxiety and is on meds for it. He's been a loser all his life, never puts effort into anything, never does hard exercise, plays at least 4-5 hours of videogames a day, virgin at 26, no degree, no job.
Yeah as someone previously said, just take lsd a few times.
>>54253807
>I don't complain
>after numerous posts of attention seeking complaining
Oh I'm sorry princess I forgot the world has to stop and everyone has to pay attention to your totally-not-fake-illness, tell me more anonymously over the Internet how it's sooooo difficult to anonymously talk to strangers over the Internet while playing a video game.
There, do you feel like a special snowflake now?
>>54253842
Everyone who pretends to have social anxiety is a loser who likes playing the victim card.
>ahbloobloobloo look how hard it is for me do you feel sorry for me yet???
>>54253870
I am not the same person you were speaking with.
>>54253842
>virgin at 26
What's wrong with being virgin?
>>54253895
Social anxiety is not a real disease. He made himself into being a loser - it's a choice.
>>54253928
It's fucking pathetic. Like being over 18 and not being able to drive.
Lel at all the losers who arent taking advantage of victim card
>cant prove I dont have anxiety
>free pills
>disability checks
>subsidized rent
>can literally get away with not doing shit
Is super comfy senpaitachi. If youre going to be a loser might as well do it right
>>54253965
>not being able to drive
And what's wrong with that?
>>54253991
Shit if you're conning the system and don mind people thinking you're a faggot then go for it.
The problem I have is people trying to pretend that social anxiety actually exists in the way some of these faggots try to claim. We all know it's fake, but faggots care too much about their feelings to say otherwise. Like when morbidly obese women pretend they're 'sexy'. It's just pathetic.
>>54254029
>he's a virgin who can't drive
Kek, chin up champ.
>>54254049
Lol best part is when some 14 year old kills themself because of that fake shit like props for sticking to the lie but what an idiot
>/g/ is now normie jock bros
>>54254069
So a 30 yo paralyzed solder is a loser by your definition.
>>54254081
>not enough courage to talk to strangers over team speak
>totally got the courage to take their own life
Do you actually think before you type or do you usually just pretend you have some bullshit mental health problem like 'social anxiety' and people tend not to question your bullshit out of politeness?
>>54254126
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
>>54254105
You seem to be the authority on losers, being a virgin that can't drive and all. You tell me.
>>54253585
>>54253479
>>54253542
>>54253585
Such projection. You're doing the world such a favour by being a pathetic, bitter snide, without any understanding of real life.
>social anxiety isn't real
>therefore anxiety isn't real
>therefore the PTSD or "shell shock" experienced by more than half of those soldiers isn't real
>therefore the anxiety, depression and mania they experienced isn't real
>therefore their eventual suicide due to such conditions isn't real
You. Are. Fucking. Retarded.
>>54254151
>embarrass myself
Oh God you just triggered my totally-not-made-up social anxiety.
I just can't function in society anymore.
Better get off 4chan and make my way to tumblr, where hurting someone's feelings is a capital crime.
I suggest all my fellow 'social anxiety' suffers follow me.
Kek
>>54253895
>>54254171
>>54254126
>>54254069
>>54253965
>>54253870
>these posters are implying that their own lives aren't desperately sad and pathetic
>despite feeling the need to ruthlessly criticise a weakness in the edgiest way possible
Kek. You pussies are amusing.
>54254188
>PTSD from being in combat is the same as talking to strangers over team speak
Oh please keep going, everything you say is gold.
>>54254126
He was being satirical dumbass.
You are trying to be some alpha prick this entire thread and must be an absolute bore in real life. You are like the uncle that did 2 years in the army in the mid 80s and wouldnt shut up about it. "You kids are pansies" ad Nauseum. When he finally died everybody felt like there was a shrieking noise gone from their lives. You make people uncomfortable. You would prefer we stayed in the stone age so that everyone with a disease would just die off.
And although I think you are just being mean for the sake of being mean and should be ashamed of yourself, I hope you are.just joking. Either way it is never personal so best of luck to you. You will need it.
>>54254209
All I want is muh safe space
>>54254209
>You have to be 18 or older to post on this board
Back to your English class with all your other cynical neckbeard friends, none of which are women. Good luck.
>>54252593
What really helps treating social anxiety is growing up and stop avoiding every situation that scares you. Actively develop strategies that help you instead of searching for excuses to bury yourself even deeper. You can only truly enjoy your life when you realize that you are basically already dead. You only have a few years left to do shit, so you might just as well do something with it until you are finally dead and gone. There's no reason to be scared as you can't change that fact.
At least that kind of thinking helped me to get over it, and I was sweating and panicking even while grocery shopping.
>>54253479
Well personally, I don't really get anxiety attacks or anything, but I just hate interacting with people I don't know, and will avoid it at all costs, I don't understand the whole concept of social anxiety, misanthropy makes sense, but social anxiety just boggles Me.
>>54254251
Rule out the existence of a symptom of a disorder and you rule out the disorder.
There's such a thing as general anxiety that causes physiological disruptions such as a latent influx of adrenaline.
This really is your first rodeo, isn't it kiddo?
>>54254266
Good advice.
>>54253351
Boy are you a garbage of a human being
>>54253715
>>54253794
A truly pathetic display of samefagger self-validation
I have general anxiety. Panic attacks and malnoia everyday for no reason.
Not on meds, not on welfare. Agoraphobic and live with my parents.
Studying from home. Walk up and down my road occasionally. Used to go out often and worked full-time but I started getting constant panic attacks out of nowhere.
Never whine to friends about it or post on Facebook for attention. Only close friends and family know I have it. Don't feel sorry for myself although it's hard not to do that, but self pity is a hindrance.
Sometimes things are just the way they are. If you feel the need to comment on it and criticise it, it doesn't change the nature of it. All it does is reflect on you and the fact that your life is most likely unfulfilled and bereft of any meaning or happiness. But I do understand doubt, because the condition gets exploited by melodramatic pricks -- people I detest.
>>54253351
Thank God actual doctors know social anxiety disorder is real, and you are seen as a medicine-denying fucktard by society.
>>54254243
>if you don't believe someone pretending to be a loser for attention is a big deal you must be a loser?
Nice work Detective Retard, now go find out what happened to your extra chromosome.
>>54254381
The same doctors who think cutting off a mans dick magically makes him a woman?
Yup. Once again because people are all to sensitive of the feelings of losers.
Also they don't earn money telling you your a loser, they do pretending you have a problem.
>>54254253
>You would prefer we stayed in the stone age so that everyone with a disease would just die off.
As nature intended. Life gets more efficient and complex over time because of this exact reason + survival of the fittest.
>>54252593
If VR creates a positive enviroment for the mentally ill people, they will no longer want to stay in the real world. Therefore, it ought to create more problems.
>>54254413
And with that I am now sure you are baiting.
>>54254385
>actively trying to disprove something that is proven by science
>"Hurr durr, I'm a pussy and I deserve money from the government because Twitter is mean to me."
>"Shut up, pussy."
This, I understand.
>"I have social anxiety."
>"LOL YOU'RE A PUSSY. SOLDIERS STORMED NORMANDY. GO CRY TO TUMBLR LOLOLOL NOTHING EVER STUDIED AND ANALYSED IS REAL BECAUSE I FIND IT DETESTABLE"
But this is just cringeworthy and embarrassing. Like, uber neckbeard lowlife faggotry of the highest degree.
>>54254411
I didn't think 4Chan service extended that far up into the Appalachians...
>>54252593
You could play your visual novels in 360. You could set up the mic so that when you have to make a choice in game, you verbally say the choice. You could have the game refuse to progress until it detects that you say the protag's lines. Mom would be proud.
>>54254360
Take some drugs to help you get over that shit. You got the right attitude, now you need to put your body in its place.
>>54254411
Why are you so violently obsessed with denying modern medicine? It's like you can tell your archaic views are sinking into a pit of irrelevance so you flail desperately for anything to hold onto, to stop the sinking.
>>54254470
I've tried beta blockers and some benzos. No help. If anything, they make me feel unstable and I end up getting concerned and it just makes it worse.
I went in a car journey a few weeks ago and my heart rate was jacked but it felt good after I'd done it. Might do it again soon and try make it to a golf course this time.
>>54254424
Truth hurts, doesn't it.
Well it's not going away. Humans are circumventing this elegant system and now obese, disease-ridden human garbage are polluting the gene pool. People like you who think they're doing humanity a favor by caring for them are, by contrary, turning everything to shit.
>>54254540
Never change, /pol/
>>54254360
Yeah, I was a football (american) jock in HS. when I started college I was in clubs, had a solid gf etc. Now I don't really go out without forcing myself. I would just fucking sob in my car because I couldnt make myself go into the school. Pills made it way worse. Couldnt afford a shrink. Getting better everyday but I am a fraction of what I used to be.
>>54254496
>>54254441
>think you know how the world works
>thinks social anxiety is a real thing
Either you're attention seeking, or you're white knighting an attention seeker. Either way equally pathetic?
If it's the latter, why? You think you might score some obese virgins boipussy out of it?
What other made up diseases you gonna champion this week? Unicorn cancer? Space AIDS?
>Girl asks you the time
>Start sweating
>Cry
Man social anxiety is the perfect justification for being a beta cuck. You have literally 0 (zero) chance of having a gf like that.
It's like the perfect pussy reflector "disease". Literally every thing that women hates packed in one disease.
Honestly, how do you not kill yourselves?
Maybe you're too scared of going out to buy a gun and having to pay to the cashier.
LEL
>>54254560
>admits he cries because he doesn't want to go to school
And you're somehow claiming you're not attention seeking for attention?
But I totally get you bro, I mean SCHOOL? Christ that's some heavy shit. Those bastards with cancer don't know how lucky they have it, right?
>>54254540
>we cant instill self control and good habits in our youth
>I do, like, 10 pushups EVERY morning
>you know what healthcare is? Yeah, fat people fuck all that up
>i cannot distinguish someone with a genuine health problem causing obesity from a fat fuck who loves food, therefore I posit that some people who live the exact same lifestyle as me and happen to be overweight should die
We srsly trollin now bredda
>>54254613
>how do you not kill yourselves
Because then how would they get all the attention they're totally not seeking?
>>54254613
There's more to life than pussy
>>54254485
>Yes goyim, take these meds, they're made to help you!
hehehe
>>54254583
>>thinks social anxiety is a real thing
>Either you're attention seeking, or you're white knighting an attention seeker. Either way equally pathetic?
Not that guy, but there is literally a consensus in the medical community that it is a condition that is real and exists. Just because you want to delude yourself and go "LALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" doesn't mean that conditions that have been documented by modern medicine don't exist.
>>54254633
Keep telling yourself that bullshit, fatty.
>>54254660
Yeah, like pretending to be the biggest loser on a Cantonese Charcoal drawing forum.
Let me have a go.
>My social anxiety's so bad if I even think about talking to another person I have a heart attack and die. True story
>>54253351
Cuckadoodle doo
>>54254625
>implying admitting something on an anonymous cantonese bread making forum is the same as admitting things in real life.
>HURR ITS JUST FOR ATTENTIAN
nigga are you real
>>54254674
>conditions that mine the wallets of those who need to be told to man up have been documented by Dr Shekelberg and Galaxo-Yid-Klein
Yup. Just like men can actually be women if they 'feel' like it, huh?
>>54254660
Sure there is, but it's still very important. Besides this argument can only be applied if you already have gotten laid.
If not, you're talking about a subject you haven't experienced yet, and then your point is moot.
But hey, if that helps you sleep at night, good for you m8
>>54254625
Yup, that's what I said. Do you get off on being an asshole? Just a sociopath trying to feel?
>>54254613
Of course you are right. However, one who has been in the shit and had to conquer it? Whom is also totally in touch with his feelings, never loses his temper, is above average fit because the exercise and boxing helped him beat the anxiety? Sure, I cried a few times. Comfortable enough in my masculinity to say that. What kind of girl wants to date some anti-medicine natural-selection walking /pol/ meme?
>>54254723
To these faggots attention is attention.
>>54254633
Wow you're in so much denial. First off what's the number one cause of death? Heart disease. What's the number one cause of that? Plaque buildup. Why? Obesity. Oh so you say it's a legitamate genetic problem? That's what I mean by shitting up the gene pool. Stop being such an inconsiderate prick toward humanity and let them die you stupid fuck.
>>54254748
>totally in touch with his feeling
By 'his feelings' do you actually mean 'other men's dicks'? Y'know, cos you're a faggot pretending to be even more of a faggot on 4chan for attention.
>hurr if I even look at a woman the sky explodes
Sure it does buddy, sure it does.
>>54254740
Lel I bet you you'd know all about how sucking a cheesy dick and how life isn't all about that.
>>54254748
You're a fucking homo
>>54254583
>attention seeking
>on an anonymous board
Kek. Hello, teenager who spends all day and everyday on the internet and thinks 4chan is everything.
I didn't say I had social anxiety. I'm fine with social situations, although I hate crowded spaces. I have general anxiety. The root is internal, or it's not apparent. Learn to read properly kiddo.
>disease
It's not a disease. It's a disorder and it can be fixed. I had the same thing when I was 17 and I got through it and got back to work. I didn't self pity or anything of the sort. What's your goal here? That was a weak attempt, considering the nature of my post. All the same, you people amuse me.
>>54254760
You totally missed my point. Probably my fault for a shitty greentext.
1 - yes obesity is bad. We can fix it WITHOUT killing all of the fatties.(as you suggested)
2 - since you cant say that a person is fat STRICTLY BECAUSE of their lifechoices, you are essentially advocating eugenics. Which I should expect from a /pol/ tier neo-nazi
98 replies.
50% of this thread is that one guy trying to get to everyone, and failing. He's getting more riled up than the ones with anxiety. This is hilarious.
>>54254816
If you can 'get through it and go back to work' how can it be a big deal?
Oh wait, it's not. People only play on it for attention. Everyone feels nervous sometimes. Everyone has days they'd rather not work. It's not a condition, it's just attention seeking.
Thank you for finally seeing the point we have been trying to make.
>>54254808
Lol it's funny how in the 1950's all I would be able to do is cower or fight people like you. Thank god it is current year and people who actually go outside would shame you for saying that. Love my feels
>>54254863
Pretty sure there would be plenty of people who would call you a faggot for crying because you're too lazy to go to school.
Except on tumblr. You should go there, you'd love it. Those faggots claim to have PTSD because they failed a test. You'd fit right in.
>>54254831
I'm having a good laugh right now at your mental gymnastics.
Anyone stupid enough to take care of their body long enough to reproduce isn't fit enough and have even less of an excuse reason than the genetic fuckups.
>>54254856
I never said it was a big deal. It's just a part of life. You did read the part where I said I'm not on welfare and barely anyone knows about my anxiety, right? You haven't made a point because you aren't arguing points, you're just being a cantankerous loudmouth lol, try refutation instead of just whipping out your babydick.
People don't only do it for attention. People with true disorders detest people making a fuss over them, myself included. I'm just calling you out because you're not seeing the difference. But you're just a lonely shitposter, so it's all rather futile.
>>54254732
Look senpai I know you're baiting me by bringing up a completely unrelated topic, but I'm going to bite, since I actually know more about trans stuff than I do about social anxiety since I don't have social anxiety.
Gender identity disorder is also a well documented and treatable medical condition, potentially even moreso than social anxiety.
Considering that the primary treatment for it is hormones replacement therapy, it (a) actually does make one's body function effectively identical to that of a normal person, with the exception of genitalia and (b) the use of hormones by people who don't actually have GID have been linked to depression and suicide, leading to the idea that being transgender is actually a real involuntary mental condition.
It really isn't up to debate at this day and age whether these conditions exist or not. Whether you are capable of wrapping your mind around the scientific fact of the matter, that these things *are real*, is up to you.
>>54254753
>I don't know what he's thinking because I'm not him and I can't feel how his brain works.
>I don't understand it
>THUS IT MUST BE FOR ATTENTION
just listen to yourself, kiddo
Wow, this thread blows.
>>54254188
>such anxiety from videogaming monster honter so much
>>54254899
Doesn't take care*
I'm laughing so hard my grammar is fucked
>>54254937
Don't play fantasy games. I'm not a child, kiddo.
>>54254928
>I know a lot about trans issues
Faggot. Also, the best treatment for those with gender dysphoria is an anti-psychotic regime. Complete dissipation of symptoms. Which isn't surprising considering it's a mental disorder.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8839957/
>>54254831
>since you cant say that a person is fat STRICTLY BECAUSE of their lifechoices
Yes you can. Maybe you find a few fatties that have some genetic disease, but there's a lot more wrong with those people than just their weight. The vast majority of fatties ruining America are fat because they don't take care of themselves. They eat too much, period.
>>54254941
We're all happy for you, kid.
>>54252593
How can VR provide treatment for a non-existent problem? Kick a NEET experiencing "social anxiety" out onto the street and you'll see a huge change. These people just enjoy their lifestyle and cling to any excuse to have no conflict.
>>54254898
Yeah, probably. Doesn't matter much since I got accepted to grad school. And since I'm not 8 years old. Anyone who wants to make fun of me for something like that can go ahead, wouldn't be the first time some farmer or plumber couldn't wrap his head around something and started regurgitating shit his dad told him.
>>54254899
Glad you enjoyed my post pal :^)
>>54254928
>Gender identity disorder is also a well documented and treatable medical condition, potentially even moreso than social anxiety.
Except that you're still that 6'3 black tranny with a cut off dick. No one can even fit their dick into that "hole" that was once your penis.
Its a barbaric practice to cut off a dick. Its sick.
>>54254972
I totally agree. Basically I was trying to argue against eugenics which in hindsight was a stupid thing to do. More of a matter of principle
>>54255029
Lol just picture this coming from some old person at a nursing home
>its sick!!
>>54254928
I'm not a /pol/ack. But it's widely know that hormones therapy and other psych-meds stuff is just a way of pushing the jewish agenda on white people, with the endgame being the complete erradication of the most powerful race (Whites), and thus Jews and Zionism will reign the world.
First they're trying to convert you in a submissive "trans". Then you start to take pills because your mind is all fucked up due to the hormones. Then you end up like a zombie or killing yourself.
Why do you think there are so many Jewish Psychologists and Psychiatrics?
>>54255029
You sure do talk about dicks a lot...
>>54254799
>>54254790
>>54255106
>I'm not a /pol/ack, but I totally am.
>>54254966
>a drug that turns your brain to mush and causes problems like speech disorders and other heavily debilitating problems will fuck your brain up
gee it took a genius to figure that out
Not to mention that that's a single paper, from twenty years ago, AGES before before GID was well documented and before the modern treatment was available.
Even if we ignore the fact that it's a single study, up against the many studies we have now promoting HRT as a treatment, and the fact that it's a study from twenty years ago when research on GID was just getting started, why the fuck would any sane individual want to take a drug that will seriously fuck them up rather than take a different, significantly more effective treatment, that doesn't fuck them up and also aligns with how they see themselves? Are you this fucking dense that you can't understand this, anon?
>>54255029
I didn't mention anything about cutting off a dick, bud. Do you have even a basic understanding of what hormone replacement therapy means?
This thread is getting embarrassing.
I'm gonna go claim my welfare for anxiety, buy some shit with taxpayer money and enjoy my life.
Let the frustrated shitposter who apparently provides more to society tire himself out. Bless him.
>>54255134
>I didn't mention anything about cutting off a dick, bud. Do you have even a basic understanding of what hormone replacement therapy means?
I've seen it multiple times in person by the black "transgender" community while working at a restaurant. The results are burned into my eyes forever. "Ugliest women I've ever seen" comes to mind.
>>54254991
>arachnaphobia isn't real, just cover those fuckers in spiders
>fear of flying isn't real, just put that fucker on a plane
actually, in mild cases it will work. Other cases will result in something close to mental breakdown. Most of us were made worse by negative experience (e.g. school and years of bullying), proving that exposure alone does NOT "cure" it.
Negative exposure actually created the problem.
Positive exposure can improve it.
This is really basic, proven, psychology. As basic as pavlov dog stuff.
Just kicking someone out on the street does not guarantee positive experiences.
I'm not NEET, I work, I hate my life.
>>54255152
>welfare for anxiety
>enjoy my life
kek
>>54255106
>First they're trying to convert you in a submissive "trans". Then you start to take pills because your mind is all fucked up due to the hormones.
Considering the fact that the drug is the exact same shit that comes out of a woman's ovaries (or a man's testicles, for ftm trans people), your brain isn't going to get any more fucked up than that of any other woman.
I'm just going to ignore the rest of the insane conspiracy bullshit in your post, though, because it's pretty obviously bait.
>>54255159
>ugly people shouldn't be allowed to exist
>thus modern medicine is wrong in how it treats people
nice logic
>>54255174
Natural selection is failing us. We as humans baby unfit to live people too much.
>>54253542
Plenty of soldiers had social anxiety then, and still do. I have it. I know others who have it.
>and they still managed to do it.
Life or death situations are isolated from everything else you do or will ever do. In a combat situation, nobody has time to care what someone else thinks about them.
Your opinion is worthless, and so are you. Here's your reply, you contrarian attention whore.
>>54255174
I don't care if it's a positive experience. People who complain about social anxiety are lesser humans afraid of any conflict. Let them rot.
It really only makes me mad because my tax dollars go to these man-babies.
>>54252771
DMT
>>54255212
>We as humans baby unfit to live people too much.
what
>>54255207
>>ugly people shouldn't be allowed to exist
"transsexualism" isnt natural.
>>54253603
What?
Also, I hate the fucking word Social Anxiety so much. I mean I have it, but I never tell people I do (not that I ever will) because I don't wanna sound like a beta white knight faggot.
Jesus I wish the rope was strong enough. Why can't they just let me sleep forever??? It needs to stopnow
>>54255245
Try parsing it like this?
>We as humans baby {unfit to live people | people unfit to live} too much.
Where 'baby' is used as a verb
>>54255245
We have people with all kinds of genetic and mental disorders that freely reproduce. These people would have likely died early in the distant past.
>>54255273
>>54255301
>Baby too much
Babahah
Don't you mean father too much?
Or at least put a comma somewhere in there
>>54255350
That turns me off killing myself.
Need to go on a massie and kill all the weebs
>>54255270
Who cares? Why do you have such a problem with other people trying to live their lives as how they see themselves that you need to grasp so desperately hard to try to find some reason why it's not okay?
You act as if trans people aren't sentient beings, and thus aren't capable of making decisions on what to do with their bodies and what to do to make themselves happy. What is so terrible about modern medicine giving them the option for treatment that resolves the situation in such a way that everyone is happy and with little to no unintentional side effects?
>>54255383
Because tax money is being stolen from me to fuel their sick delusions. Are you baiting or just plain stupid?
>>54255383
>and thus aren't capable of making decisions on what to do with their bodies and what to do to make themselves happy.
Seeing as how they have such a high suicide rate, I'd say that they don't, in fact, have the capacity to make proper decisions.
>>54255192
Yes, that's what I said. Free money for claiming that I'm panic ridden. Easiest money ever. Do you work for your money? Kek, what a retard.
>>54255409
>implying the exact same amount wouldnt be stolen from you regardless of whether or not trans existed
>>54255473
>implying this is an excuse to use tax dollars on these sickos' fetishes anyway
>>54255383
>Who cares? Why do you have such a problem with other people trying to live their lives as how they see themselves that you need to grasp so desperately hard to try to find some reason why it's not okay?
Because I've seen some fucked up black trannies playing dress up in public and cutting off their own dicks..Nobody can tell them they're making this all up without being sued
>>54252681
How about stage fright where the Ai audience is mostly covered in darkness and makes faces and noises?
>>54255409
Let's pretend that trans people exist as a significant amount of the population to which your taxes would even be different if they didn't exist (which they don't).
Now let's pretend that this is all getting paid with tax money like medicare or some shit, and not out of their own pocket (which again is usually not the case).
Now let's get even more ridiculous and also pretend that their happiness and the overall effectiveness of the treatment also doesn't matter.
All we are talking about is raw money spend on treatment, that is hypothetically coming out of your taxes.
In this obscenely ridiculous scenario you're putting forth, you're your own argument for HRT being the primary treatment that is used. The drugs used for HRT is infinitely cheaper than *any* of the more convoluted chemical treatments out there.
And let's not get started on how much it outweighs the costs of the hundreds of man hours it would take for counseling for "cognitive therapy" to make them "okay with their birth sex". Which has been proven to not work, and thus would result in people permanently needing to pay for said counseling.
I'm pretty sure you're the one who is plain stupid if you can't see that all you are doing is grasping for reasons to rationalise mistreating people who you don't understand.
>>54255441
Depressed people have a statistically high suicide rate. Does that mean every individual depressed person doesn't have the capacity to make proper decisions, because they exist as a statistic of that demographic?
Of course not; that would be ridiculous. We give people the option to receive, or not receive, treatment as long as there is no imminent indicator that the specific individual is at risk of hurting someone else or themselves.
Furthermore, we give people the right to choose their treatment from any and all options for those that have been scientifically proven to be at all medically viable in treating their stated condition. Of which HRT is one of them.
>>54255383
I have big fucking problems with people living their lives when it involves sick disgusting sexual perversion that is now being normalized as healthy.
shit, /pol/ is leaking again
>>54255564
aint no anon readin that
>>54255574
The problem is you anon. I hope you realise this soon. Not having a name for your hatred must be a hell of a burden.
>>54255574
That's a hell of a gay problem to have.
I just think you have either be angry about nothing or fap to a hot trap. Your loss bro.
>>54255514
>Because I've seen some fucked up black trannies playing dress up in public
>waaaah people are wearing things I don't like
There aren't any laws being broken, so you never really had a legal place to stand against this in the first place.
>I've seen some fucked up black trannies ... cutting off their own dicks
Have you seen their dicks (or lack thereof). No you haven't. Why do you even care what's in their pants if you will never see it?
Why the fuck should trans people change what they are doing *that isn't at all illegal or hurting anyone* just to appease whiny fuckers like you? Please just go and off yourself already.
>>54255605
>shit they made an argument that's rational
>better ignore it and keep deluding myself
>>54255625
>>54255642
No response besides insulting me, huh ?
>>54255574
fuck does anyone have the "guy representing my argument vs guy representing their argument" image?
>>54255735
No, but here is another great graph about HIV rates in faggot populations.
>People unironically defending trannies
>>54255743
Charlie Sheen.
>>54255724
Probably because you're the one going around insulting people who you irrationally don't like. What is there even to argue about in your post?
At least the other anon tried to grasp at straws to rationalise his shitty views rather than just namecalling.
>>54255743
What's your point? Being gay doesn't give you HIV. Just because there's a statistical correlation doesn't mean literally anything at all.
>>54255767
>person hating things for no reason
Go outside sometime kid. The sunshine will melt all that angst away.
>Being socially anxious
>>54255724
Didn't insult you. Are you just inferring it?
I presented a comparison:
You're angry and embittered hating gays and transsexuals.
I'm happy fapping to them.
What's the better choice?
>>54255767
>Bruce Jenner
>truly transgender
Kek, nice example
>>54255743
>implying trans people and gay people are at all the same thing
>>54255853
*Caitlynn
what's with all this influx of newshits who hate traps?
is reddit raiding us?
>>54252593
>One could potentially create a safe virtual environment where the sufferer could practice social skills without fear of rejection or judgment.
This defeats the purpose entirely. The only way to overcome your fear of something is to actually face that fear.
However, VR will open the door to virtual interactions with real people, where the anxiety would still exist but perhaps in a milder form, making it easier to face these fears.
>>54255889
We're get scared looking at them, like when you go to the gas station and see someone who's obviously on narcotics
>>54255919
old /g/ used to post pics of qts when traps came up in discussion
now we just have you fags who can't appreciate fappable girly penises
>>54255245
just needs some hyphens
>We as humans baby unfit-to-live people too much.
>>54255971
Blame /pol/ for that.
>>54252593
I knew someone researching this for a phd thesis at my university. I was one of their test subjects but I can't say much more than that and I don't know the outcome. Given that I was tested late into research, I asked her a few questions on what she's seen so far and the outlook is promising.
Practicing presenting skills in front of virtual people is certainly possible.
>>54255971
>>54255971
Qts?
>>54255971
