How do the police end up catching ppl who point lasers at planes and helicopters?
like say if someone pointed a laser for a couple of seconds here and there at an aircraft how do the cops end up knowing where it came from with such accuracy just from a few seconds of lasers?
>>54204547
How do they catch someone who interferes with a million dollar aircraft?
I'll put it in simple terms so you can research it, high-end cameras. Federal law enforcement spends good money to figure it out.
I don't want to give specifics because miscreants. I know it's not a hyper-useful answer but there are kids with issues on this board that do not need to get ideas.
I also want to point out before this discussion continues that even sarcastically encouraging this behavior is a federal crime.
>>54204713
No, it's not.
>>54204547
Kill yourself if you're planning to endanger lives for your super hilarious stunt you little shit.
>>54204713
No it's not.
>>54204713
I've been pointing lasers at planes since I was a kid. It's a fucking myth to scare kids from using those things.
>>54204713
I hope you're in a plane that has a laser pointed at it, you fucking girl.
What kind of faggots do this shit?
FUCKING faggot kids like this are the ones who get good things banned for normal people.
You can catch matches on fire and fun stuff with green lasers...BUT NOPE. NEED TO DO SOME DUMB SHIT LIKE POINT IT INTO PEOPLE'S EYES OR AIRCRAFT
>>54204713
Holy shit you really must want replies
>>54204687
This. The concept is simple though like in warfare. If you fire your rifle, rocket launcher, tank, etc. from a hiding spot, you just gave away your position to the enemy also.
![[HorribleSubs] Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_09.25_[2016.04.23_13.53.31].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qqjechc.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_09.25_[2016.04.23_13.53.31].jpg")
>>54204713
>point
oh you
>>54204547
THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL!
Because people who do it are usually chavs who hang out in local park/estate
Also its usually done at night and areas around airport are sparsely populated, police or airport security just drive there and wait for idiots to show up on main road. Or they just surround them.
If you are smart, get a map, look for areas at the end of each runway where there multiple escape routes. Get a scope so you can aim laser accurately. Also keep in mind that once reported on the radio security can get to you in 5 minutes, so dont linger.
Best thing is get a radio/transmitter capable of airport frequencies so (hypothetically) you can jam the frequency it while shining the laser.
>>54204925
Kinda stupid to do anyways, what is the point?
>>54204996
There is no point. Dont do it. But the knowledge of how to do it may be imteresting
>>54204758
maybe you have been missing all this time
>>54204819
This is why you take the skulker feat.
>>54204819
Because those produce heat that can be easily detected with thermal images. I doubt tiny handheld lasers produce much heat, not to mention those used for covert military purposes.
>>54205051
No the knowledge is not interesting unless you are going to do this.
You should be arrested.
>>54205131
All knowledge, no matter how boring or useless, is interesting to SOMEONE.
>>54205153
Yes, it is interesting to people who wish to do this.
Why else would knowledge on how to commit federal crimes be "useful"? That's just bullshit.
It's no different than the people claiming Western Union is important for transfering money between relatives when everyone knows it's used almost exclusively for illegal shit
>>54204713
(You)
>>54205198
What a useless "Here's your (you)" after he's been replied to six times.
>>54205185
Either you're a fucking idiot or you're being purposefully obtuse. I never said it was USEFUL, I said it was INTERESTING. If you hate freedom so much, why don't you move to North Korea.
>>54204547
4chan gives their IP address to the police.
>>54204713
I want to hold you down, rip off your clothes, fuck your boipucci until you fucking cry and then cum in your eyes.
>>54205185
>Why else would knowledge on how to commit federal crimes be "useful"? That's just bullshit.
If you're writing a book involving federal crimes and want it to be authentic sounding.
Which is beside the point. You don't need to justify knowledge.
>excuse me sir, do you have license to know that?
>>54205226
>freedom
You don't have the freedom to commit crimes or aid others in doing so.
You adding "(hypothetical)" doesn't change the intention or message.
>>54205131
I have never done it and I am not planning to yet I know how to do it and not get caught.
>>54204758
you're garbage
>>54205309
I do have the freedom to distribute knowledge on how a crime might be committed as long as it's done for educational purposes and not with the intent to aid in committing a crime.
>>54205308
So you think websites of people posting in detail guides on commuting crimes for example is "just information" and they did nothing wrong?
>Here's how to commit fraud! Don't worry I added (HYPOTHETICAL) and (JUST INFORMATION) on each line so it's ok!
When did board become /b/ and hackforums?
>>54205345
>So you think websites of people posting in detail guides on commuting crimes for example is "just information" and they did nothing wrong?
Yes, exactly.
Thank you.
>>54204547
I'm a pilot and one day I lost control of the plane for a few seconds because of this shit, they were the longest few seconds in my life.
>>54205360
>a laser can cause someone to lose control of a plane
You must be a shitty pilot lmao
>>54205360
commercial airline pilots can fuck off, they literally have it on autopilot
>>54205345
I don't just think, I know it. Otherwise it would've been illegal to publish The Anarchist Cookbook.
Sorry, but knowledge is not a crime.
>>54205358
This website is for people over the age of 18
>>54205360
What do you fly? Larger craft usually depend on instruments for landing so its ok, but for small airplanes sudden laser light on short final or flaring can be deadly.
I imagine helicopters pilots are also vulnerable
"There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance."
However the anon is most likely baiting for cheap replies so there's that.
>>54205360
You had the plane on autopilot, you lazy ass "pilot".
If anything, the flash of the laser beam startled you while you were masturbating, and caused you to bump into some instruments and opened the landing gear.
>>54205408
The AP was active on the B737-800, so no major problems - I just reported it to the ATC and continued the final approach procedure.
>>54205358
>>54205444
So should carding websites be allowed then?
I mean... They're just selling people's data and committing fraud en-masse... Nothing wrong there! It's just KNOWLEDGE and a bunch of letters and numbers!
>>54205305
That's nice, but prove me wrong.
>>54205510
>flying 737
Why do you browse 4chan?
>>54205501
Actually we use the autopilot in order to fly more efficiently to save fuel and follow routes and paths precisely, my airline asks to use it as much as possible.
>>54205540
I have been using it from ages, it's still my way to kill some time.
>>54205512
Data is not knowledge.
>>54205335
Im not the guy you were just replying to.
You're half right.
No, what you said isn't aiding in crime. That's where you're right.
But your justifications are obvious plausible deniability attempts, and have been shot down in court before repeatedly in actions involving this site among others.
>>54205540
If anything it shows that people with an interesting profession can be degenerated as well.
>>54205216
(You)
>>54205570
Why not? Information is in the form of data, other people's financial data in this case.
And also KNAWLEDGE on how to make use of it.
Shouldn't that be allowed? I mean cmon it's 2016 how can you ban a combination of numbers that are used for financial transactions along with the KNAWLEDGE to use them?
>>54204547
IR cameras. All the police helicopters have them, and there's always one around in the bigger cities.
The problem is that the small point becomes a big area over a large distance. Your laser pointer is not accurate enough to keep it all focused in one point. So if you point it at an airplane, the likeliness of blinding someone is a lot higher than you think.
>>54205622
Nah, you're just retarded.
>>54204547
A few months ago police discovered a 70 years old man doing this shit from his house close to the runway...
>>54205613
Heh, after getting to know several pilots I try to fly as little as possible.
>>54205646
Sounds like your edgy 15 year old logic isn't really holding up too well
>>54205121
FLIR != Thermal
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/04/man-sentenced-to-18-months-in-prison-for-firing-laser-at-county-sheriff/
this faggot got sent to prison for 18 months for doing that shit.
lmfao btfo
>>54205686
It is, I just can't be bothered to argue with your retarded strawmen because it's obvious that you're not going to change your mind. If you genuinely can't tell the difference between knowledge of how to do something and people's private data, then you're too retarded to live and you should kill yourself ASAP.
>>54205131
America
Don't do it bro, this will happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex6bhGcGY3g
>>54205722
OK so where do you draw the line?
What is KNAWLEDGE and what isn't?
Is providing in depth instructions on creating bombs considered KNAWLEDGE that should not be illegal, by you?
Is step by step guides on committing financial fraud also KNAWLEDGE?
Is encouraging people to commit crimes KNAWLEDGE?
>>54205735
that was so fucking fake
I was going to compare this stupid middle-school grade conversation to penetration testing, but then I realized there is a point to pen testing, and no fucking point to this immature shit.
I'm sure when you hang out with "friends" you like to tell them how cool you are by knowing how to take down a fucking plane with a laser, possible to impress that girl you like to look at but are too beta to talk to.
I bet you didn't even know that laser is an acronym.
>>54205777
you need to dial down that autism bro
>>54204810
>>54205198
>>54205305
>>54204754
>>54204743
Yes, it is, and if you kids could think for yourselves you'd realize I just did you faggots a favor by reminding you the ONE THING you can't do here.
>>54205778
No brew it was real. 100%.
Drones are the new hazard (read boogyman). Get with the times bro.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/17/drone-plane-heathrow-airport-british-airways
>>54205822
Ye brah
>>54205779
>middle-school
>penetration
Pls continue also post pics
>>54205777
See >>54205722 and go kill yourself already.
>>54205825
I've got an idea. Drones with LASERs!
>>54205825
Yeah but a drone with a 400ft climb distance is a minimum $130. Lasers are $5 and change, give or take $5.
>>54205852
>400ft
What is that in non-retard units?
>>54205825
After screaming Allahu Akbar lol
>>54205804
>>54205838
>Edgy teenagers get confronted with their logic
No wonder this board is shit now.
>>54205825
Actually the danger is quite real. Again you need to know what you are doing.
>>54205543
You just proved his point, ya tard
>>54205874
1ft = 0.3m => 400ft = about 125m
>tfw bought green and purple lasers from china from Geek app
>Purple one actually burns holes in cardboard
Burned out the battery charger for the purple one so waiting to get a new one still, but the green one is visible for well over a mile down road. I wish I knew how far it went.
>>54205226
Please tell us, what else is hurting your vagina
>>54205874
130m or so.
In the US the law requires drones to remain below that altitude.
Model plane guys just tend below it anyway, ty based AMA.
>>54204547
just go somewhere far away from your home / car / school / anything identifiable via satellite. wear something stupid, crash a couple planes, take 5 taxis home (changing in between each), and incinerate the laser pointer and youre golden
>>54205825
Drones are indeed a big issue, here is a list of the near accidents happened recently:
http://avherald.com/h?search_term=drone&opt=0&dosearch=1&search.x=0&search.y=0
Bird hits are more dangerous than drones. Most drones capable of getting that high are quite expensive and not too many 'teens' can afford them. Usually those flying the heavier more expensive drones have some experience with flying the cheaper type first before laying down serious cash. I am not saying there are not a few idiots with money to burn but I think this is over inflated.
>>54205920
hahaha Im an AMA member :P
>>54205933
ORRRR, just do something useful instead of being an edgy faggot.
>>54205952
Yeah they're pricier. I posted above about not really being able to get a dangerous drone for less than a hundred bucks or so, but that's still fairly cheap. There are gps-climb drones with no software restrictions for under 200.
>>54205852
5$ are low powered and cant do much,
But you can get 1000mw laser for 100-200$
Those can be quite dangerous
>>54205983
Better terminology
http://avherald.com/h?search_term=bird+strike&opt=0&dosearch=1&search.x=0&search.y=0
>>54205983
Yes, I know - I'm a B737-800 first officer :)
>>54205990
Fair enough, so they're about the same price. I would still argue that pointers fall deeper into the curve of affordability/danger
>>54206000
>Shitloads of bird strikes in the past year.
Not news worthy.
>A few drone hits.
OMFG! Ban them all!
That's how
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75aUKIIY1Lg
>>54206032
Do you even think about what you type?
Think about the number of birds in the air. Then reference that to the number of bird strikes.
Compare those numbers to drones in the air vs federal crimes committed with those drones. This is why the smart pilots register.
Here is a faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI7Qq1mYQlI
>>54205839
How about a drone that tracks airplanes and automatically aims its laser at them?
>>54206070
Genius, this is now /terrorismgeneral/. Well done asswipe.
>>54206061
What I am saying is that more birds hit planes and are more of a danger. This is typical posturing and another excuse to limit peoples freedom to stay off the radar (sorry for the that).
Literally hackforums-tier edge in here
This really is the new /b/
>>54206097
So just because birds are maybe more of a threat that means we should not try to eliminate other (upcoming) threats?
>>54206070
Just make sure there are no fingerprints on the drone...
>>54204547
How the fuck is it strong enough to reach a plane 1 mile high into the air, and how could one possibly point a laser directly at a plane.. Shit sounds like a hoax/
>>54206065
The last part of the video made me laugh as it was inside a simulator.
>>54206097
I don't think that drone danger to airplanes is how they keep people in-line.
Drones are still primarily a hobby, good luck forcing ANYONE to register ANYTHING they build themselves.
Also all you have to do in order to stay off the registry is run a light drone without a heavy camera. It's done to prevent long-range low-altitude telephoto snooping. Do you even drone, asshole?
The solution is just in defining no-fly-zone areas close to every airport.
>>54204547
>How do the police end up catching ppl who point lasers at planes and helicopters?
Like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-_uAC2dawI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaOhD2r-Y8c
>>54206120
Sure. Let's take away knives from kitchens whilst we are at it.
>>54206020
With a drone you can actually take down an airplane, if you really want to. I think its quite serious issue.
I mean you need a pretty powerful drone but you can spend cash or build one yourself for 1/5 of the price.
![Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OL9VRYU.jpg "Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue[1].jpg")
>>54206134
>>54206156
That's a helicopter
>>54206134
google laser diffusion inside cockpit
>>54206169
This is a good point, actually. I'm coming around more to your side. I still have a feeling, an ethos more towards that a pointer seems ultimately cheaper, I'm a drone hobbyist though, and I know empirically that drones can be made cheaply/with basically any materials.
We actually buy $40 flight controllers, mount RadioShack brushless motors to formed plywood, and do speedflying with these <$100 usd drones, but you just can't buy anything like that in a store.
I hope you see why I'm on the fence here, I'm not expressing it well, I think.
>>54206227
what's the difference between a drone in 2016 and a RC plane in 1990
it's just terminology
>>54206134
Here is one of them over the clouds, at about one mile of altitude.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar5QlR7rvd4
First this. Lasers are next
>>54205825
they're called multicopters bruh
>>54205185
Kys
>>54205825
Turns out
little plastic bag innit
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/21/drone-believed-to-have-hit-british-airways-flight-may-have-been/
>>54206263
Drones can fly themselves via GPS. (If you're a retard, that means you don't have to stay in radio TX/RX range.)
You're thinking about quadcopters, maybe. RC planes in 1990 did not fly or stabilize themselves, and without hundreds of dollars worth of equipment, you couldn't fly them if you couldn't see them.
No rude, that's just the answer to your "question", if anyone could call it that.
>>54205309
Shit posting at its finest
>>54205309
>>54205335
>>54205595
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea
read a fukkin book
>>54206298
No.
Drones can be UAS airplanes.
MultiROTORS are self-stabilizing aircraft with three or more vertical-lift rotors. Not necessarily unmanned.
Example 1: DJI Phantom is a multirotor, a quadcopter, and a drone.
Example 2: Parrot DISCO is a drone and a lifting body.
Example 3: Syma X8 is a multirotor and a quadcopter, but not a drone.
Glad we got this cleared up.
>>54206500
no its just retarded to see anons duke it out like pretend lawyers on a malaysian tapestry forum
>>54206549
Equally retarded to see people post "fer ejukational porpouses" and encourage 14-year-olds to pick up their pointer and go out tonight.
>>54206500
Why did you delete your post?
>All of these moralfags
kek, when did 4chan turn into a huge pile of pussy normies?
>>54206588
No one is encouraging anything? What is wrong with you? This is simply an interesting subject to talk about.
>>54206622
Because my original link used the wrong search term and 'bird strike' got more results (also more current date wise).
>>54206288
> In June 2012, CBP held two Seattle men for two and a half hours after discovering six Kinder Surprise eggs in their car upon returning to the U.S. from a trip to Vancouver.
>According to one of the men detained, a border guard quoted the potential fine as US$2,500 per egg.
>>54206622
Decided the legality argument is totally fruitless. It turned vitriolic early in the thread and I'm far more interested in the current drones/pointers discussion.
If people want to continue discussing it fine, but I don't retract my deleted post's message, only it's conversational worthiness.
I see this concerns you deeply. Consider psychiatric help.
>>54204925
I don't understand , what is the hazard here ? Laser getting in the pilots' eyes or interfering with the equipment ?
Also, you are not talking about these red dot lasers ( children toy ) right ?
>>54206696
No, I was genuinely interested
>>54206721
The color of a laser is just that; it has nothing to do with how powerful it is or anything.
It might give you a hint on what it uses, but that is all.
>>54206588
like >>54206653 said, you're projecting
and i dont even own a laser pointer lol
>>54206721
The laser becomes more intense when it hits cockpit safety glass.
>>54205131
You should kill yourself so that nobody else has to do it for you
>>54206778
See? Minor negativity and you lose your topic. Clearly not interested in legitimate discussion. Bye.
>>54206721
Hazard is that flaring part of descent/landing is not done by autopilot. There is a period of time where pilot takes over. Suddenly flashing a 1500mw laser into the cockpit can blind him(or even both pilots) and make him lose control, make a sudden manouvre which can make the plane crash. Its more dangerous with smaller planes because these dont have an autopilot.
>>54206803
ok, feel free to leave, i'm going to continue discussing with the other anons in here
>>54206817
Case in point.
>>54204769
>What kind of faggots do this shit?
Your image is the answer.
It's getting boring...
>>54206803
you know, i just considered that if the fact of even discussing is illegal(like you think), just report us to the proper authorities already, i'll be waiting
>>54206844
I haven't said that, but continue showing us your ass.
>>54206779
even the laser in op's photo ?
>>54204769
Niggers and ultra edgy 14 year olds ruin everything good in this world.
>>54204547
usually they only get the people who do it a couple of times
if you do it once they probably wont be able to catch you
Authorities are watching this thread already :^)
>>54206864
if it's not illegal then i'll just keep discussing it like i currently am
that's about it really
>>54204713
I just want to point out that misrepresenting the law is a felony.
>>54206908
it's probably an attempt at derailing the thread but w/e
>>54204547
If I saw my neighbor do it I would call the police on him.
That's probably how most people get caught: watchful neighbors who do the right thing.
>>54204925
>Best thing is get a radio/transmitter capable of airport frequencies so (hypothetically) you can jam the frequency it while shining the laser.
I dare you to try. You think "jamming" one frequency is going to do anything?
>>54204925
this is dumb, they can just land the plane and report it after
also where are you going to get a mobile jammer with that much signal strength without attracting attention to yourself
>>54205345
I have a friend who publishes detailed papers on penetration testing, and all forms of cyber crimes. They're not going to up and arrest him simply because he was writing about practices that cyber criminals can use. But now we know how to detect those cyber criminals, because we know what signs to look for, thanks to his papers
>>54205345
It's getting close to summer anon
>>54206151
>The solution is just in defining no-fly-zone areas close to every airport.
I have no words for this. God help you.
>>54206975
>>54206998
It will create confusion (while shining laser at the same time). Jam tower, maybe approach, 121.5 to really make them mad.
Airport use mhz range just above fm radio, hand held transmitter can be legally purchased or even made at home with some technical knowledge
>>54207097
Do you have any idea how radio jamming works, you fucking retard? The jammer needs to have more power than the transmitter, and I'll give you a hint: ATC radio transmitters have enough power to be heard literally hundreds of miles away. You'll only be able to jam any aircraft that literally crash into you, but maybe that's your goal you dumb motherfuker.
>>54206871
What do you mean?
It's obviously so strong that the air it shines through becomes a plasma and diffuses the light so that you can see the actual beam.
>>54207075
Those equipped with GPS won't even takeoff if they are in a no-flyzone area
>>54204547
The ancient egyptians used elaborate set ups of mirrors to redirect light. All you have to do is reroute your lazer through an overseas vpn to avoid detection by the Canadian Revenue Agency.
>>54207233
i gotta say i kek'd
>>54206975
>You think "jamming" one frequency is going to do anything?
Each airport only uses a couple of frequencies.
This way everyone on the air/ground listens to everybody else on the air/ground.
So yeah, jamming those frequencies would be bad.
Don't be a nigger.
>>54207173
Dont need to be rude.
ATC may have power to reach aircraft hundred miles away but aircraft do not, interfere with aircraft signal and it will be garbled. We are not trying to jam tower but aircraft from sending and receiving, also timing is critical if they dont expect it, it will take them time to change frequency etc
>>54207173
He's talking about approach and ground.
Those are local radio frequencies used on and around the airport, during takeoff/landing and taxiing, not ATC which is used during normal flight.
>>54207314
Just a couple....
http://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=EHAM
>>54207376
Smaller/regional airports use one frequency for arrivals/departures also taxing and shit.
>>54207314
You're missing the point, even if you have the jammer set up, it's range would be, like, five feet, being generous. You'll have something that can fit in your trunk, not a fucking EA-18G you retarded skid.
>>54205121
>>54207589
You are wrong. Range of handheld radio like this (1w output power) can be upto 10 miles
I'm a pilot. I'm just doing my job, transferring people safely from A to B, sometimes via C, and some autist fuck wants to kill me and people I'm responsible for when I'm on final. Nice going, dick. I hope you become blind yourself.
>>54205874
120metres
30cm * 400 = 12,000cm = 120m
>>54207864
Yeah but you're not jamming shit at 3000ft
>>54206757
Lower wavelength = higher energy?
>>54204713
>>>/reddit/
>>54204749
Fuck off back to your SJW cave, you buttmad shitlord.
>>54205729
Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of shit with down syndrome.
>>54205895
>>54205501
>>54205378
>>54205382
ITT: Unemployed worthless people complain about Pilots.
>>54211875
Because they're running a SCAM.
Everyone else of the planet: Oh sorry son, your job is automated now, we're letting you and 12,000 other people go.
Pilots: We've automated 99.99999999999999% of your job, but we've giving you a raise, good work Quagmire.
>>54211916
I should also mention that 99% of pilots are
WHITE.
>Asians are white so a middle eastern people, I don't care about your racist remarks.
And those pilots have KILLED thousands of innocent BLACK people by not operating their planes correctly or just simply wasting to commit suicide that day.
>>54204713
>federal
Not everyone's an Americuck
>>54205305
anon thats gay
serious question whats with all the butthurt moralfag bootlickers in this thread?
>>54213315
Not everyone is an AL qaeda employee trying to shoot planes down anon
>>54206950
and you get 10k
>>54204547
You only hear about the ones they they catch, anon. The vast majority get away with it, especially if they know what they're doing.
t. A man who points lasers at planes for a living.
>>54205874
400 feet.
>>54205887
You're the one sounding anguished and posting all caps because people are talking about things you disapprove of.
Oh by the way, I've flown planes before and I don't give a shit if retards know how to do this.
>>54207864
I did 60ish miles on UHF with a 8 inch whip antenna. Can't remember if I was on 5 or 1 watt.
Still can't do jack shit with just a HT. Your best bet for jamming an airport would be with a hacksaw to the antennas.
>>54211916
>Hurr durr I don't know the first thing about aircraft or piloting
Thank god nobody hired you to make important decisions.
>>54204713
DO IT FAGGOT
>inb4 more buttblasted americans assume their laws apply everywhere
they backstrack ur ip using the data encoded in the laser waves
>>54205808
no it's not
nigga it throws off the glidescope of large aircraft when using a S.T.A.R. to an I.L.S. That or it can blind the pilot/pilots as mentioned earlier.
Helicopters too
>>54204547
cause idiots hang around.
>>54207864
power output of a radio tower is going to be far more potent than a little hand held.
>>54205635
Lol no
>>54205910
keep up the good work doctor
>>54205185
>Why else would knowledge on how to commit federal crimes be "useful"?
Uh, maybe to a federal crime investigator? What a fucking moron.
>>54204758
Lol in nz a man was recently given a 25000 dollar fine from the high court for pointing a lazer at planes.
The law is real faggot
>>54205398
>knowledge is not a crime
Isn't that what Martha Stewart was jailed for?
If you know the point of entry you can calculate the origin.
>>54205398
>Relax, child porn is just knowledge guize :DDD
How does shining a laser for a couple of seconds cause such a huge disturbance?
>>54217002
pilots scared of alien lasers
>>54205694
Forward looking infrared (FLIR) cameras, typically used on military and civilian aircraft, use a thermographic camera that senses infrared radiation.[1]
The sensors installed in forward-looking infrared cameras—as well as those of other thermal imaging cameras—use detection of infrared radiation, typically emitted from a heat source (thermal radiation), to create a "picture" assembled for video output.
>>54205808
Oh fuck off Mall Cop. Free speech rules are well established. It would be a crime if you encouraged someone to do it while said person was holding a laser pen and you were both standing near an airport.
Being a sarcastic shit on an anime board? Unwise, but not criminal.
>>54204547
use a mirror far away to get away with it
>>54214138
>implying aircraft can't be piloted runway to runway
The fucking Soviets did it with their only space shuttle flight and that was into space. Launch, orbit, land like a fucking boss. If I remember correctly the shuttle software even aborted a dangerous attempt (cross wind) and came back around for a perfect landing.
The fucking Soviets.
There is literally no reason to have pilots on planes except maybe one as a backup (when he's not drunk and fucking a stewardess).
>this thread
Hitler should've won
Police choppers in the uk have cameras in board which detect the source based on angle of beam. Pretty neat.
Still not sure why anyone does this tho.
>>54204547
Enjoy being on a watchlist OP :^)
>>54217002
It blinds the pilot.
![comparison[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VbfsKoP.jpg "comparison[1].jpg")
>>54217170
And it had working ejection seats.
I can understand passengers being uneasy about flying in unmanned planes but cargo flights should be automated first.
It may even lead to slower but more efficient dedicated bulk cargo aircraft too
>>54206156
>Americans unironically use tax money to track down teenagers with lazer pointers
Jesus - helicopters, a lot of cops, even a police dog...
Do you seriously need a fucking commando unit to punish misbehaving kids?
I'm so happy that I live in Europe.
>>54204713
Federal crimes are kind of funny. Downloading child pornography gets you a longer sentence than raping a woman in the vagina.
>>54204713
Asking about it is not encouraging it.
If i asked how the nazis fell, it would not equal to me saying "go out and kill jews".
>>54211946
>FACE, FRAME and HEIGHT
You're entertaining but very obvious
>>54218599
I have majors in turbojet engines and literally every single professor and everyoine was like
>the future is absolutely and totally about unmanned flight
>the pilot is only hindering the plane down, he needs too much lifesupport and babysitting and he's he only thing that doesnt let the plane go faster and make crzy stunts.
>>54218799
commercial flight is all but unmanned anyway. Unless something unexpected happens, the pilot does very little other than takeoff & landing, and even those are computer assisted.
>>54206757
kkk
>>54218815
Assuming you have lifesupport for passenjers anyway and you don't plan on going beyond 12g force on your airbus there's little to gain from it. the real deal will be unmanned fighter.
But yeah if you remove all life support and shit from cargo aircraft, you won't even need to make it airtight and you can squeeze a lot more luggage in and you will save money on fuel that's wasted to powering lifesupport and you save on pilot's wages.
how can you reach adult age and not know what triangulation is?
>>54204547
>coppers go to area near where the laser was
>see some fat autist with his hoodie up and his hands in his fat hoodie pockets doing the shifty-eyes all over the neighborhood
It's actually pretty easy to spot you retards.
>>54210610
If you want to set stuff on fire, you need a lot of power, not a high energy. So for most kiddies playing around with lasers it's not the color that matters, it's the amount of mW, which is unrelated to the wavelength.
>>54204547
>How do the police end up catching ppl who point lasers at planes and helicopters?
>Planes
They don't unless they do it for long enough to get a chopper in the air to find them or the pilot can explain where the laser is coming from
>Helicopter
The pilot reports it and just circles describing the location of the laser
This only works if you're a chav and shine lasers at aircraft from your house for a long period of time. If you were to walk outside and blip your laser at a plane for a second then walk back inside there is 0 chance you are caught unless the plane was autonomously photographing the area and caught you doing it
>pointing laser at airplanes
How the fuck do you do that? The plane is like thousands of feet above you and in constant move, how can you even manage to point the laser at it?
>>54221506
landing/takeoff. it mostly happens in urban areas near airports, more of an issue for helicopter pilots honestly, airplane pilots just like to bitch and moan because everyone (falsely) think they are some kind of god.
>>54221650
Make laser-proof windows?
>>54221678
The thick glass required to be strong enough to be used as an aircraft window is thick enough that the light refracts inside it.
If you point lasers at planes you need to be get your ass shipped to Guantanamo for attempted terrorism.
>>54221678
did he died?
>>54221678
I'm definitely trying this
>>54221809
If your plane gets taken down by a laser pointer, you need to build a better plane, or kill yourself
>>54221880
Yeah because the economy should spend billions of dollars modifying aircraft just because you stopped developing mentally at age 12. Fuck you and I hope your entire family dies in a plane crash.
well this thread escalated quickly
>ITT
>butthurt pilots and post-9/11 americans
>>54221678
You might as well remove the windows.
>What the fuck is FLIR, the thread
Jesus christ guys.
>pointing a laser at the bottom of a plane where it doesn't do jack shit
I'm sorry, where are these magical flying people that are able to point lasers in cockpits?
>>54222176
remove the pilot too. With fly-by-wire, they're already useless if electronics fail.
Pilots are like feminists.
OMG my plane was attacked by a drone I almost crashed! Ok it was a plastic bag but you know it was real to me.
>>54218637
lol
>>54211916
Autopilot just makes it so that the pilots job isnt suicidally boring, constantly adjusting the trim and throttle to get a constant speed and altitude. It takes a shitload of knowledge and experience to operate an aircraft like that. The autopilot's not gonna do shit in a 30kt crosswind or if theres a serious mechanical failure.
>>54222911
Doesn't change the fact that he isn't doing much most of the time. If people were paid solely on the knowledge they have and were promised easy jobs you'd see a lot more doctorates.
>>54223445
They're paid that much so the airlines 50 million dollar investment doesn't end up as a fireball with 200 dead folks inside.
>>54223815
It's the airlines money they do what they want. Doesn't chnage the fact that the pilot has an easy job.
>>54223893
Easy 99% of the time most of the training is for when that 1% happens and you have to land the plane on the hudson river.
>>54218844
>Assuming you have lifesupport for passenjers anyway and you don't plan on going beyond 12g force on your airbus there's little to gain from it.
9/11 victims would beg to differ.
>what are you doing dave?
>"aloha snackbar! dave the infidel is dead! we fly plane for glory of Allah!"
>i'm sorry, i can't let you do that mu-ham-mad.
>>54222911
>"The autopilot's not gonna do shit in a 30kt crosswind or if theres a serious mechanical failure."
>name two conditions where auto pilots can do better than humans
The Soviet shuttle successfully aborted a landing and came back around due to a crosswind.
Military fighter fly-by-wire systems are designed to stabilize the aircraft and make it flyable after severe damage/mechanical failure. I think some of them can enable the pilot to continue to fly after the loss of entire control surfaces.
Note I say "enable the pilot." The human still controls gross movement, but without the computer the human could not keep control of the damaged aircraft and would go down.
