What nation is more important for technology? Europe or USA?
You kinda need both.
>>54166242
>what nation
>>54166242
Yuropoors spend 90% of their time browsing American websites.
>>54166424
Merifats spend 100% of their time browsing using the WWW, which is yuropean :v)
america has the smartest, and the dumbest
>>54166242
China. Europe and USA could disappear tomorrow and it would have minimal impact on your technology. If China disappears ... well, enjoy having no new tech anytime soon.
Europe: CERN
USA: NASA, Google, pretty much every big tech company
>>54166242
dumb blondes are hot
>studies cultural science
>>54166242
>Germany, sucks refugees' cock like there is no tomorrow, cheats on diesel emissions
>America, preserves the future of the white race, has all the cool tech.
Asia. All the shit gets made there, we would have fucking nothing for a long time if all of the sudden all production done in Asia would stop shipping here. We have pretty much zero production lines for affordable electronics, only some specialist shit gets made here, nobody could afford even a smartphone if they were made with western labor costs.
Like it or not, Ping Pang and Pajeet enable you to browse /g/.
>>54166510
60% WHITE
I
X
T
Y
P
E
R
C
E
N
T
>German: Break leg, go to doctor, have leg fixed
>American: Break leg, go to doctor, have leg fixed, go bankrupt
It's a symbiotic relationship. Remove one and the other is weakened.
>>54166510
>america
>white
>>54166447
The chinese are souless robots
>>54166510
>America preserves the future of the white race
>>54166545
Better than 100% cuck
>>54166447
There's a difference in creating new technology and mass manufacturing old one.
>>54166510
OK Jose
>>54166433
The smartest are usually imported from other countries though.
>>54166447
China is just a manufacturer, the amount of stuff they design is pretty pathetic.
>>54166242
>nation
EU forced same charger tips for every mobile.
WINRAR
Europe: development
USA: marketing
Asia: production
We need all of them but marketing is overrated.
>>54166618
try again Tyrese
>>54166704
No, it's actually quite important since people are dumb as shit and you need to feed them information or they'll never fire a few synapses by themselves.
i havent seen any EU fag riding on special vehicle for ameriFATS
>>54166242
>yurop
>nation
and both have made, and continue to make, tremendous contributions to science and technology
>>54166714
Based Eastern Bloc
Remove Kebab
>>54166662
Every American who doesn't wear feathers was imported from another country, dumbass.
>>54166724
So we need USA just for the idiots?
>>54166750
No, there are idiots everywhere, just more of them in the USA
>>54166732
Outside of England and Germany, the EU is irrelevant when it comes to technology.
>>54166424
Butthurt detected. The Internet has no nationality
>>54166767
now that is some bait
to name just one example: ASML in Veldhoven, the Netherlands
>>54166767
That's like saying, "Outside of California, the USA is irrelevant when it comes to technology"
>>54166630
>>54166675
Wrong! It used to be just manufacturer country, but now cause of reverse-engineering they can make more and even better technology
>>54166242
>>54166423
>nation
>europe
fuck me
>>54168060
How the cuck is Europe not a nation?
>>54168240
Fuck you I live in France and not some German or UK imperial dictator will influence my way of life
I don't have nothing to do with german or UK
>>54166479
> NASA
hahagahagahaagafhaaafh no
>>54168324
>Nigger Aeronautics and Spic Administration
>>54166424
Yes, in order to laugh at you.
>>54166242
USA. 99% of programming languages are based off of American english, frameworks, platforms, equipment all manufactured/assembled in the US, US sets the standards. Without the US there's no IT.
>>54169221
Babbage, Lovelace, Turing, Berners-Lee...
Feel free to cry into your bucket of chicken, fatass
>>54169529
kek
>>54166714
Who would want to live in eastern Europe? These guys are the foreign citizens in my country.
>>54168269
I don't live in any of those, but of those three France would be the worst in terms of laws, wealth and culture.
>>54170043
Enjoy your niggers, spics, muslims and jews
>>54170096
>worst in culture
Come on m8, try a little harder.
>>54166714
>poland
>white
slavs are non-white subhumans and poor as fuck.
>>54166573
>Germany
>be fucked in the ass with taxes and invaders, break leg, go to doctor, have leg fixed
>America
>break leg, go to doctor, have leg fixed, if you have insurance $50 copay if you don't you're ass fucked
Germany doesn't have "free" health care pajeet
>>54166593
Like poetry.
>>54166242
I barely know anything that Europe has done for the advancement of technology compared to the U.S.
>>54170188
You are sadly ignorant. Apart from the poor thing, which is true.
Slavic females are the best women on this planet
>>54170230
>>54166605
Check out this Trump character's ideologies, you may have heard of him.
>>54166242
>nation
For education - Europe.
>>54170152
go watch some Arte you french faggot.
Deutschland hat die beste Kultur
>>54170282
Trump is a blithering idiot, but he has the right idea.
>>54166573
>German: pay doctor whether you need him or not
>American: pay doctor only when you need him
There's no such thing as free healthcare, unless you're brown and get off on paying taxes because making non-white people pay taxes is racist (unless they're rich of course).
>>54170299
Agreed
Israel
>>54170096
Ok, that not that much. However the anti terrorist laws are ridiculous. Free WiFi prohibited, really?
>>54166743
how is that helping your argument again?
>>54166714
>2012
>>54170305
>There's no such thing as free healthcare,
Get out of your containment cell and look around farther than the East Coast, there's plenty of countries that had and have 'free healthcare'
Hint: Their healthcare isn't owned by private corporations.
>>54170242
Slavs = white niggers. Except that you can buy some hot russian prostitute in Germany, that's all they can be useful.
>>54170350
Maybe you should read the post commented dumb foreigner you're paying the doctor in other ways whether you want to or not in America you pay a doctor as needed because you don't get a broken leg everyday.
>>54170411
Yeah, I pay $2 every month out of my paycheck, which I haven't checked if it is tax deductible, not that I care much.
For that I get treatment, therapy and drugs, enjoy your $100 eye and blood pressure checkup.
>>54170467
Sure buddy we all know it's 10% of your paycheck goes to that "free healthcare"
Guess poorfags get the longer end of the stick
>another thinly veiled /pol/ thread.
I liked these discussions but didn't the janitor deleted the other thread about the amercian presidental candidates?
>>54169529
Jack Kilby, Robert Noyce, Ted Hoff...
Without them, you wouldn't have integrated circuits or microprocessors. Babbage and Lovelace? Pls. Difference and analytical engine wasn't shit son.
Turing was a degenerate queer.
Berners-Lee is probably the only relevant one now.
U salty tho
>>54166447
>mfw this dude thinks China creates tech
lol..China is a copier of tech, not a creator of tech. without the USA, China has a slave labor population and can mfr products at a cut rate price due to the slave labor. But China lost it's ability to create over a century ago, they just became a nation of thieves and criminals.
Why the fuck do you think they have a digital army whose sole job is to try and steal tech from other countries and this army marches daily 24/7.
>>54166977
Name a product they stole(because that is how they get their tech) and then came out with an improved version.
The keyword here is improved.
The true statement would be, "China steals tech, reverse engineers it, then produces a shoddy crappier version at a cheaper price.
Tell me about the 'even better technology" part of your reply. Got any examples?
>>54170298
>Insulting other presidents as pedos.
>culture
Pick one faggot
>>54170511
Are you fat ? You sound fat.
>>54170305
>>German: pay doctor whether you need him or not
>>American: bankrupt when you do
>>54170222
>Germany
>pay taxes to the government, get your shit fixed without having to pay anything
>America
>pay greedy insurance companies more money than necessary on top of regular taxes, pay even more when you fuck up your leg
>>54170927
How does someone sound fat?
If german healthcare is so great, why did Holger Badstuber have his leg surgery in Colorado?
>>54170966
Let me correct that for you
>Germany
>pay taxes to government, get kicked out of your home to give it to a rapefugee
>pay taxes to government, then watch all your social services be directed towards 3rd rapefugees while the government turns a blind eye to it's native population and jails those that state they do not agree with giving their country away to 3rd world, 80iq rapists and people who will not contribute anything of value to your society.
No real point in doing the America part of your reply now is there Ahmed?
>>54170966
>>Germany
>>pay insane taxes to the government, get your shit fixed ``````````without having to pay anything''''''''''
Enjoy having your tax money go to "refugees," faggot.
>>54171037
>>54171043
I'm not even German, though.
>>54166242
Netherlands is the most important.
Because we have ASML.
Without them you wouldn't even have computer chips.
China, hands down.
>>54171074
Then you were talking out of your ass with no information to base your bullshit on then weren't you?
No worries dude. We all know how Yuroos do not have access to factual information about what is taking place in Europe. So your lack of facts is not surprising.
Government censor ship is pretty cool huh? Allows you to be stupid yet not feel stupid.
>bb..buu...bbbbut..they tell us they are all engineers and doctors...so they must be.
>>54171144
Is there any particular reason you're jealous that people get free stuff and you don't? You also get free cholesterol with whatever you eat, you don't see me getting angry like you.
>>54171207
>````````free'''''''' stuff
There's that word again.
>>54170984
They speak American "" """"English "" """"""
>>54171207
It would seem then the one thing you are not getting from your government then is the truth.
Not a big thing though right? I mean facts and the truth are of little value right?
In fact it appears truth holds little value to majority of the European population.
>mfw this deluded millennial thinks the gov does shit for 'free'
Is taxes a word you are familiar with?
>>54170230
This post shows the quality of the American education system
>>54171227
Since you seem adamant of holding on to your shattered pride, I will call it 'bargain' from now on, everyone knows there's no free stuff.
>>54166242
I studied "cultural science" and English in my undergrad. Literally any idiot can do it if they manage to hand in their assignments on time.
>>54170299
Blithering seems like the sound his combover would make in the wind
>>54171333
>everyone knows there's no free stuff
It doesn't seem like you do. You keep going on about "free" healthcare when you end up paying more than you would have over your life.
>berniggers talk about free tuition
>mfw my 11k in student loans would be eclipsed by berinie taxes after about 4 years
>>54166242
What I can tell you for certain is that American tech companies *value* their employees the most with the highest average pay by far
>>54171333
No worries. yes it is true, Americans do have pride and it can be shattered.
We are aware they bred pride out of Europeans over the last few decades..seems to be working out for you well Ahmed.
>>54166431
The WWW protocol was made by a Brit, and they're smart enough not to get cucked by the EU :^)
>>54171418
WWW is not a protocol
>>54166242
Who got to be powerful enough to have those gorgeous cookie notices put everywhere?
>>54171368
>You keep going on about "free" healthcare when you end up paying more than you would have over your life.
I hope I do not get even nearly as much money from my health insurance as I pay into it, just because I do not need it. Unlike Norwegian-bro, I am German and it is a very reassuring feeling to have yourself covered financially regardless of what ill befalls you.
What's more, a flat rate healthcare system means that you can go and see a doctor whenever you wish. Early diagnosis is crucial and is the reason why some very poor countries, e.g. Cuba and North Korea, still have comparatively healthy citizens. Having lived abroad for a bit, I can say that when each doctor visit costs money, you are not nearly as motivated to visit doctors often.
>>54171691
How long do you think that is gonna last for at your current course heading?
>>54166242
>Education is a priority in Europe
>while Ahmed and Mohammed fuck their wives and daughters
Glad to be Murrikan.
>>54171833
Depends. I do not think you can really tell. It lasted well enough past the economic miracle, through the German reunification and into the ageing society. The new immigrants will undoubtedly put a strain on it, but considering that they are mostly young men, there is a possibility of using them as the younger work force we need to support the elderly. My main concern is how long it is going to take to train them to be able to do anything useful at all. When the Turks came after the war, we needed labourers, whereas now we really do not. For me, that is the central issue.
>>54171037
>>54171144
He does know, because the health care systems in Europe are very alike.
YOU however seem to be talking out of your ass. We do have factual information about what takes place, and the government doesn't censor the media you fucking moron. A lot of the media corporations (read: not all) censor themselves.
If you want to talk about government authoritarianism, then why don't we talk about the NSA first?
>>54171368
>It doesn't seem like you do. You keep going on about "free" healthcare when you end up paying more than you would have over your life.
By "free" he's referring to the lack of an immediate, upfront charge/bill from the healthcare system. Yes, everyone knows that the healthcare system is paid by taxes, and yes, this is frequently debated when a political party advocates a cut in the healthcare sector. The difference is that, instead of being charged upfront, and instead of being paid by one person, the payment into the healthcare system is made over a lifetime and by the entire country's population.
>>54171833
I do not believe the refugee crisis will have a large negative impact on European countries before people get upset enough to kick them back out. Refugee immigration policy is growing stricter and stricter by the day, and there's a significant amount of people who advocate mass deportation.
>>54171833
Just to clarify: you don't actually -have to- pay into the national health insurance, but you need an insurance. If you prefer a private one, which are often cheaper and offer better services for younger people, you can very well do that. The state one actually tries to compete with private ones, by offering a bunch of useless shit like yoga.
>>54171870
On the other hand, you idiots have safe spaces and diversity officers in your universities
>>54171940
So, you think these young men are gonna work and support the existing German pop?
Are you aware of the emplyment rate for such men? Are you aware of the IQ limitations they mostly suffer from? Are you aware that each young man represents 4-8 other family members that will be arriving to join them and they also will not work for the most part and want all their free shit too?
Do you really think they are coming to become part of German society and not to just carve out their own society using your infrastructure and free stuff? Then gain pop through breeding and then become majority in areas, which then allows them to affect laws. Do you see any of this or have thought about these points?
All they offer is 2 hands and the legs to carry them, if that. How useful will German economy find them long term? You are aware of the average IQ's of these people aren't you? I mean that stuff is fact..you have been exposed to those facts right?
>>54166242
Europe:
>Invented the World Wide Web (Sir Tim Berners-Lee)
>Invented the television (John Logie Baird)
>Invented the telephone (Alexander Graham Bell)
>Invented the radio (Gugliemo Marconi)
>Formalised the theory of gravity (Sir Isaac Newton)
>Formalised the theory of a heliocentric universe (Nicolaus Copernicus)
>Invented the computer (Charles Babbage)
>Formalised the theory of artificial intelligence (Alan Turing)
America:
>Invented McDonalds
>>54172096
>healthcare system is paid by taxes
You are correct, but it is not a tax in Germany. See >>54172153. I guess it is technically free for people who cannot afford to pay membership fees for some reason and have them paid by the state, which of course gets that money through taxes, but that is not the normal case.
>>54172202
Germany is a federal republic and it is run on national and federal unit level. Even if they have sex all the time and do nothing but have children, it would take them a fairly long time until they have majority in any area that can affect jurisdiction. Even then, those children would need to become adults first and only then get a right to vote. It would be very difficult, especially considering the current political climate, for these people to do this.
As for employment rates, of course they are minimal, these people don't even speak German.
To be frank, anon, your points, especially the IQ ones, make you sound like someone who has absolutely no idea what he is on about and was educated exclusively by /pol/. There are some very serious issues with these individuals, most notably the lack of immediate transferable skills and too many coming at once for us to distribute in a way that would not let them create segregated communities of their own. There are enough good reasons why the situation is less than ideal, you don't need to make up bad ones.
>>54172096
>and the government doesn't censor the media you fucking moron. A lot of the media corporations (read: not all) censor themselves.
Are you fucking serious?
Kid, you just showed your full stupid. You might want to try and hide at least some of that. I think you need to look into that a bit further.
I get you get filtered news, but I assume at the least you are aware that if you post something on FB, something the government does not like, you will be arrested. You know this right? You do know the German government has directed/requested that censorship take place don't you.
>media
>social media
Hmm...I see a commonality here.
>brings up NSA
Show me some avg Joe's with an unpopular opinion getting arrested by the NSA? Who? Where? When?
>>54172202
Just to add to the above: They are also not citizens. They cannot vote and will not be able to do so for quite some time. To become a German citizen, you also have to prove that you are a useful resident and have been one in the past. It is a fairly strict process.
>>54171418
you mean http? that's USA
>>54172405
What were you were saying about IQ's again?
Pakistan 84
Syria 83
Ethiopia 69
Somalia 68
https://iq-research.org/en/page/average-iq-by-country
Like this will not have long term impacts when you are importing them in by the millions. Okay kids..good luck.
>>54172433
>if you post something on FB, something the government does not like, you will be arrested
You get arrested if you violate the German Criminal Code, specifically Art. 130. This has always been the case in Germany and is very similar to most developed nations. US has similar legislation, but is a bit more lax.
Since we are on an English-speaking board, I do assume that you understand that we don't only read local news. Even then, business newspapers like Handelsblatt have been highly critical of the current policy for a long time. More "liberal" press, ironically enough the German branch of the American Huffington Post, haven't.
>>54172584
It does not strike you that the countries scoring the highest are also coincidentally the ones with the higher school scores and the strictest education systems? I can't see why a Congolese farmer who can barely read and write might have a harder time solving abstract puzzles than someone with twelve years of schooling. It's a non-sequitur.
>>54172584
> United States 98
BORDERLINE RETARDED
>>54172433
>Are you fucking serious?
Yup.
>Kid, you just showed your full stupid. You might want to try and hide at least some of that. I think you need to look into that a bit further.
Burden of proof is on you.
>I get you get filtered news
Nah, there's multiple news organisations operating in Europe that have a far-right allegiance, and there's even more which criticise the current immigration. The fact that anti-immigration parties have grown from 5% to 20% across all of Europe in just THREE YEARS should tell you that people have no problems with seeing consequences, and that there is news reporting on it.
The "censorship" you speak of are media that censor themselves, because they have political bias, like all other media.
>I assume at the least you are aware that if you post something on FB, something the government does not like, you will be arrested. You know this right?
You won't. It needs to violate the law to get you arrested, and this is also the case in the US. People have been arrested over tweets in the US too.
>Hmm...I see a commonality here.
We both know that when "the media" is talked about it refers to the newspapers, radio channels and television channels.
>You do know the German government has directed/requested that censorship take place don't you.
I am not German. Europe != Germany
>Show me some avg Joe's with an unpopular opinion getting arrested by the NSA? Who? Where? When?
Kek, you are retarded if you believe the NSA has not contributed to law enforcement. In fact:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/03/10/surprise-nsa-data-will-soon-routinely-be-used-for-domestic-policing-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-terrorism/
>>54166510
>America preserves the future
>>54166510
>cheats on diesel emissions
That was actually genuinely embarrassing to me as a German living abroad. I don't know how any of them thought this could be a good idea.
>>54172202
Actually, I'm not even entirely sure if children of the refugees born here qualify for the German citizenship upon reaching adulthood. That is usually reserved for EU citizens residing here or residents with certain unlimited stay permits.
>>54172827
>I don't know how any of them thought this could be a good idea.
They were just following orders
>>54170497
>/pol/ thread
Does anyone even know what "/pol/ thread" means anymore? This is far more of an /int/ thread.
>>54166242
Has Europe done anything major for technology in the past thirty years? Hell, Asia is leagues ahead of them at this point.
>>54173212
That's actually true. There is only one true /pol/ak here.
>>54170299
>>54170310
Anyone who says Trump is dumb is most certainly retarded themselves
>>54173235
How would you even qualify that? There are a lot of tech companies around me that produce things that consumers never hear about, often very specific and very high-tech things that are essential to keep the gears turning. The same happens in Japan and the US.
>>54166490
But she's not blond, retard. Look at the eyebrows. Look at the roots. They're brown.
I will say this though: you would have to be pretty cognitively suspect to change your hair color.
>>54173235
>Has Europe done anything major for technology
Yes, Ireland has been a tax haven for every major tech company for the last 20 years now.
>>54171284
>hurr you're fat becuz america
Talk to me when your country puts a man on the moon.
>>54173353
>implying America did
>>54166242
The only thing murrika has given technology recently is SJW cancer
They are killing tech
>>54171870
>Education isn't a priority in murrika
>while Jamal and Tyrone fuck their wives and daughters
>Glad to be Murrikan.
>>54173373
>implying it didn't
>implying you aren't just buttblasted because europe doesn't do shit except get blown up by sandniggers that they let in because muh diversity
Stay mad
>>54173353
Tell me once you put a man into space first. ;)
>>54173525
>the year is 2018
>america becomes the second country to send a man back in time
>proceeds to go back in time to win the space, nuclear arsenal, and time travel races
>>54173154
Lel
>>54173302
>How would you even qualify that?
Technological breakthroughs/research, and applying those said breakthroughs to consumer products. Specifically in the "tech" field (that's how I'm interpreting this thread at least).
>There are a lot of tech companies around me that produce things that consumers never hear about, often very specific and very high-tech things that are essential to keep the gears turning.
Would you mind giving some examples of these exclusive European companies that "keep the gears turning" when no one else could?
The ONLY company that really fits that bill would would be ARM. Besides that, European motor companies come to mind, but are they really technology companies?
>>54173235
WWW
>>54169221
>what is ASML
Without Holland, there would be no CPUs
>>54173649
What exactly are you interested in? If you're interested in bigger companies, you can look at something like Siemens. They left consumer goods production, so by most people's standard they are not doing anything at all, but their smart grid technology is second to none. They are also making great advances in the wind energy sector. For instance, they have developed an crane that allows you to work on a wind turbine from a maintenance ship under bad weather conditions without having the whole crane attempting to throw you into the water. Being able to maintain turbines at all times significantly increases their productivity and viability.
Don't be easily impressionable by things that you can purchase yourself.
>>54174042
>What exactly are you interested in?
Consumer electronics and software, isn't that what this board is mostly devoted to?
>If you're interested in bigger companies, you can look at something like Siemens.
That's pretty neat and all but none of that is really all that groundbreaking and mold changing (though that crane is unique).
You can fanboy all you want and say - "Siemens does this the best" but then there's entities like Toshiba with smart grids, GE with turbines, Samsung Heavy Industries with crane etc from all over the world doing similar things.
>>54174570
Similar is the keyword. China can produce neigh everything in the world that is similar. It might also end up being shit, but it's similar. Frankly, I don't know exactly what it is you want. Inventions don't happen overnight. They are always based on previous technologies and it's a flow rather than spontaneous eruptions.
>>54166242
> nation
>>54173402
>be Europoor
>Wife and daughter willingly sucking off Muhammad and his other refugee friends in my bedroom.
>f-f-fat American c-cucks!!
kek
>>54170298
?
Arte ist einer der wenigen halbwegs akzeptablen Fernsehsender.
>>54170329
Not him, but...
All the smart people leave Europe.
All the dumb people stay in Euro... errrrr, Muslimville now.
>>54174806
hitler's alive!!!
>>54166242
I'm a yuropoor, and I'd stil have a burger and fries over that basket and wine any day.
>>54166714
>2012
>4 loooooong years ago
Let's try to add this with all the Muslim pest invading the retarded nations.
>>54166510
>America preserves the future of the white race
>>54174932
Poor people always have shit eating habits.
>this whole thread
go back to POL
The Union will become a nation one day and the memes will end.
>>54166447
china isn't designing shit. The usa, hands down, are the ones innovating
>>54170298
>eurofags arguing over who has le best culture in a tech thread
my sides
>>54170230
>how about HTML
>MP3
>CD
>rocket science
>televison
>photography
And thats only the modern inventions off the top of my head. You've also got the printing press, firearms, mechanics if you include the pre-modern period (and thats just off the top of my head). Americlap mentality at its finest thinking that everything of use to mankind came from america.
>>54173353
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun
>>54166242
India
>>54166242
US makes better progressive video games
>"WE UHH ERRR MAKE CARS XxDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD"
>>54176574
>CD
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc
>First line
>American inventor James T. Russell has been credited with inventing the first system to record digital information on an optical transparent foil that is lit from behind by a high-power halogen lamp.[4][5]
>Even in their "high power lists" they can't even make a list without stealing credit from amerisuperiors
K E K
E
K
