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>>54122565
RMS is the enemy of your freedom.
>>54122565
Just installed ubuntu, whats some must-have software?
So I want my new build to be a native Linux box. Thinking ITX so something like the Gigabyte Phoenix B150N socket 1151 for Memelake. Haven't bought new hardware in a long time. Are sound and network chipsets likely to work out of the box with something like Ubuntu or is it going to be a case of fucking around with drivers and editing configs and shit?
>>54122565
THIS IS NOW A BERNIE SANDERS THREAD
I have done your mother
>RMS
I understand what a Wm is and does.
But exactly what the hell is a DE responsible for?
>>54122647
gentoo
>>54122674
To be honest, the funniest of these that I've seen has it asking "Hey bro can I have some chips?"
>Bernie:
Sure here you go *hands you the bag*
>Hillary:
Put your hand out.
>>54110010
Why is there such a huge stereotype of Indian-descent coders being 'bad'?
Just curious
>>54122739
Because POO IN DA LOO
>>54122754
Can you give some other reason that is not a meme?
How do you fix this nightmare that is gtk3 3.20
No matter what 3.20 theme i get it dosent change anything
>>54122766
Their english accent sounds dumb, they smell (this is not a stereotype, I have to ride along them everyday on DIE BAHN), they are known to be hired en masse for (bad) tech support and monkey-quality code. The shitting on the street thing is not just a meme, their hygiene standards are horrible, their B-movies are laughable, and rape is abundand. All in all they are not a very cool culture or people.
>>54122783
By not using GTK when on a bleeding edge distro
>>54122783
Use Adwaita for now, everything else is broken.
>>54122783
try Arc-theme it works for me
>>54122709
a DE as the name implies is responsible for the entire desktop environment - from providing configuration tools for all all the common things that may need to be changed (screen setup, brightness, language, how autoplay should work, default applications, etc)
a DE typically does a lot, or modifies the behaviour, of under the hood stuff like managing what happens when a laptop lid is closed or when the power button is pressed, or managing notifications for stuff like when phones or flash drives are connected
if you want to know more of what a DE does then I recommend using a light window manager (such as openbox, or your preferred window manager) and maybe a panel app or something for a few days, and you'll notice every little quality of life thing a DE typically provides -- it might only take a few hours
>>54122812
Tried that.Didnt change anything,plus its blearingly bright so cant use.
>>54122825
So how do people without a DE manage those things?
>>54122862
Installing small, selected parts of a DE or configuring the behavior themselves -- the part that the DE would usually do.
>>54122862
with command-line tools. For example, in Gnome, KDE or other DEs you have a GUI for entering your wifi password. With a window manager you don't have it, so some users use nmcli (Network Manager Command Line) to set it up.
My GNOME Disks utility says my hard drive has 6 bad sectors, but otherwise OK. I'm a bit woried though, because I keep hearing a faint clicking sound which gets way louder when scrolling a window or doing other things
Is '6 bad sectors' really bad? Can I fix it somehow? How can I tell whether I should be freaking out and ordering a new HDD or SSD?
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>>54122783
upgrade arc
>>54122951
is your stuff backed up? stop worrying
is it not backed up? back it up
What fonts do you guys use for your
>Window titles
>Interface
>Documents
>Monospace
?
Looking to check out new ones apart from Cantarell, Sans and Monospace
>>54122951
You can mark those sectors as broken and that they should be skipped. Tho I have no idea how to do that.
>>54122565
Fucking communist faggot. Fuck Stallman.
MAGA
>>54122793
indians in germany? where the hell are you? i rarely ever see them here.
>>54123072
Dortmund
On i3, is there a way to group windows? Not like workspaces, but like tagging each window into a certain number manually so i can bring them all in/out as needed
>>54123054
dejavu sans and inconsolata are nice. otherwise cantarella.
>>54123077
poor you
>>54123107
Thanks man, appreciate it.
>>54123054
Fira, Ubuntu, Metis are good
>>54123054
changing the Window Titles setting doesn't do anything on Gnome 3, as far as I can tell. Most about everything is "Interface"
MAGA m8
cheers from straya cunts
>Hernie Sanders
RMS should vote for John Mcafee
>>54122623
keepass2
Anyone here own any Debian logo stickers?
I want to buy one but I was wondering if you guys can recommend a specific site (that hopefully ships outside the US)
>>54122862
>So how do people without a DE manage those things?
for some stuff it's not strictly necessary, and a lot of it is still done under the hood (such as pressing power button)
other stuff it depends on what they're using, they can install the DE specific tools (such as polkits for authenticating when necessary) or they can do a lot of it through the terminal manually or set it up automatically with scripts
i.e., you can always mount a flash drive to a folder with the terminal and mount, same for phones (mostly)
>>54123183
Unixstickers is probably THE stickers shop.
>>54123054
All Terminus, except for Documents, which is Times New Roman.
>>54123183
Got mine from a local monthly meetup. Try finding shit like that in your area
>>54123054
Roboto
Fir
Liberation sans
inconsolataz
terminus
>>54123246
y-you mean like g-go o-outside and m-meet people?
>>54123214
Will check it out, thank you m80
>>54123246
I doubt there are any here, but I'll look into it. Thanks mango
>>54123054
all noto because im a horrible scrublord
>>54123214
>check our newest arch tshirt
>with it's fancy navy blue i simplistic design
>all the ladies will love you when they see you wearing the tshirt of a superior distro
>>54123354
>>54123354
>not cyan blue logo with a black terminal-like background
pls
>>54123354
>with our newest tshirt youre the light of the party
>the ladies love a guy who knows how to master complicated tools
>>54123391
>the ladies just love a guy who can steal their hearts and be confident they're doing the right thing
>>54123391
What's the deal with Vim and Emacs and all these text editors?
I've always just used gedit, nano, and Jupyter Notebook but my tasks have been often rather simple
What do people do with Vim, Emacs, Atom, and all those other fancy text editors on GNU/Linux? What are their advantages? Which should I learn for coding?
>>54123447
Emacs is not a text editor, it's an OS.
A pretty good one at that.
Some people like emacs evilmode.
>>54123435
>with it's iconic wildebeest image and the freedom it represents
>the ladies will be sure to know that you can afford giving them free as in free beer due to not wasting money on expensive software licenses
>>54123512
I would unironically wear this if it had a v-neck and was black.
>>54123447
I recently installed Arch (don't hate me pls). There is a point where you have to edit a file called mirrorlist. You are supposed to uncomment all the servers that you don't need, and there are probably 50-100 entries. It looks like this:## Switzerland - University of Zurich
Server=arch.uni-zurich.fljdlflfdf
## Austria - bla
Server=arch.bla.bla
how do you put a # in front of each "Server" with nano? You can't. You could use a tool like sed for that, but if you know a bit of Vim, the command is:%s/Server/#Server/g
I don't even code, but reading through the vimtutor file (an interactive tutorial for vim) helped me understand it's advantages. No idea how to use emacs though, and I'm scared to touch it.
>>54123536
So would I, if it was black. Only no v-neck, that's for gays
>>54123447
vim and emacs are special editors designed for editing text in light speed. Atom is just some botnet made by Gitumblrinas, or as I recently taken to calling it SJWhub.
While emacs does it via hotkeys, vim does it via key motions. Both have a high learning curve and that's the main reason normalfags don't use it, but people who grab their balls and learn vim, can do things in miliseconds, other people using normal editors would need a minute for.
>>54123595
Power level wise, which would you say is more robust? Vim or Emacs?
Or are they pretty similar in power and only differ in method of use like you described? (and therefore subjective preference)
I only heard of Emacs because I once heard RMS use it in a joke about "Being a saint in the holy church of Emacs"
>>54123595
>tired of forgetting emac commands due to high learning curve?
>want to do things in milliseconds that takes normal people minutes?
>get our new GNU emacs reference cup to look up the command all the while enjoying your free as in freedom coffee/tea
>>54123625
I have no experience with emacs. I tried it, saw tetris and removed it instantly. I'm using vim since 4 years and I still discover new key motions. Vim is amazing, but since I never really tried emacs, I can't say which is bette.
I was fucking around with a theme I derived from Arc, all I did was change some colors in the gtkrc or whatever it was. Didn't like it and I started using a real theme, Ambiance if it matters, but all my shits fucked now. I cant see the text in half of my programs, such as nvidia-settings here. I also get a crap ton of GTK warnings in the terminal about theme parsing errors.
I tried changing to a different theme, both as root and as user, that I know for sure worked before(Arc in this instance, but I tried the default themes like Adwaita too) and the issue persists.
What the fuck is going on here and how do I fix it? Obviously it's something to do with the colors of the theme but there's no way all of my themes have mismatched font colors with backgrounds. Is there any way to 'cleanse' gtk or something? I have no idea what happened. And I did check my config file for gtk2 and gtk3 both and they appear to be same thing that lxappearance set.
>>54123794
Many users report fuckery with GTK lately. Maybe GTK fucked something up upstream.
>>54123594
V-neck is way more comfy, you limit yourself by changing your behaviour just because other people could judge you. There's no need to be insecure.
>>54123794
You're using gtk3 3.20
Your shit will be fucked until more themes upgrade to 3.20
Or revert all the shit they pushed and use your normal shit
>>54123818
They changed a bunch of shit,so much that it pretty much everything a 3.18 theme has
>>54123836
what the fuck why would they do that
Why do people like bleeding edge ?
It seems like more trouble than it's worth, with unexpected occurrences like these >>54123818
>>54123836
I'm not proposing staying on Debian Stable or whatnot. I personally use Testing and I find it comfy here, nice balance
>>54123821
I wasn't being 100% serious. Here, best one I could find. No v-neck, though it is a nice black.
>>54123861
This is literally the only issue I've had with Arch Linux in the past 6 months and all I have to do is revert a package
>>54123857
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Lulz
>>54123861
Enjoy have 5 year old software,and blaringly good feature updates.
Let me guess you still good ole 56k
What is the easiest/best way to set up a network share in my home?
Just for hauling or streaming files from my desktop to my laptop without dealing with my external HDD and whatnot
Both are on Debian, desktop is using Testing and laptop is using Unstable.
>>54123877
Dont lie.Gtk3 upated alot of packages to gtk3 support.You cannot just remove gtk3 and be happy
>>54123818
Yea just downgraded to 3.18 from my cache and it works fine.
>>54123899
ftp server
>>54123912
Only thing I use that doesn't seem to work right now is termite, but urxvt is suitable replacement in the mean time
>>54123899python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8000
>>54123387
Something like this?
>>54123955
Do they have Linus shirts?
>>54123981
No, but they do have one with a Linux terminal.
>>54123981
>>54124019
>>54124021
No she doesn't, she just hates yours.
>>54123955
Holy shit they have /fglt/ one
>>54124115
That dumb penguin.
>>54124019
>>54124160
>dat penis bulge
Nice macbook bro
>>54124021
>>54124190
Back to your containment board.
>>>/pol/
>>54124190
Why would you marry someone like that? Doesn't that make yourself worse than she is?
>>54124160
I'd echo "" > her /etc/passwd if u namsayn.
>>54123955
That filename
>>54124160
Why are macs seemingly so popular among developers?
Many of my professors use them proudly and I can't understand why. Even if I had their fat salaries I'd still be using muh Thinkpad
>>54124160
sudo mv /dev/benis /mnt/vagina/
>>54124239
status symbolic
>>54124239
because they require almost no tinkering to have a functional terminal while maintaining good looks and amazing tech support
not worth the cost imo but if I made a lot of money I'd definitely get one, the build quality just isnt comparable to anything else
see if you can ask a friend or something to play around with one for an hour, they just feel great to use
>>54124239
>professor
>fat salaries
I'm a PhD student and macs are by far the most popular choice of laptops here. We don't buy them though, it goes on the budget.
Macs are nice because they are UNIX but they just work (unlike Linux) and have superior battery life (unlike Linux). I use Linux on my workstation though.
>>54124203
SHE IS NOT BAD SHE IS AN INDEPENDENT WOMAN
I AM A MODERN PROGRESSIVE FEMINIST MAN LIKE YOU SHOULD BE
VOTE BERNIE
>>54124344
really the only people who dont like using macbooks are autists who think a thinkpad is superior to everything in existence
>>54124333
Linux is a kernel you dumb tech illiterate.
Get the fuck off my board.
>>54124311
>Mac build quality
Louis Rossman has something to say to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7XSckjRPo0
>>54124333
I should've specified, they're also researchers, so they do have quite huge salaries. I know for a fact many workstations in cubicles have macs that were bought from the budget, but their personal shit is their own
>>54124377
changing it to Linux based distro just makes his point more correct
>>54124371
>a thinkpad is superior to everything in existence
but it is m8
>>54124371
apple is the enemy, nobody should support apple and buy their shit, even when it smells like fresh boypussy
>>54124386
>durability is the only component of build quality
ok i guess you dont actually care about any points ill ever make ill just stop now
>>54124391
that kind of brand loyalty is just as dumb as the apple fanboy mentality, especially recent thinkpads
Yo, question:
I can't always let the (lubuntu) desktop I have be running because of power consumption but often use it remotely. Until now I start it up, log in and run both the no-ip client and ssh server client and am on my way.
If I work out how wake on lan works, how would I be able to start up the computer remotely and let it start both ssh and no-ip client without having to input passwords?
Help's appreciated, cheers
>>54124371
And this is not the case because...?
I tried using a classmate's macbook once and I really couldn't get into it
>>54123054
Roboto
Roboto
Roboto
Inconsolata
>>54124412
Watch the video, durability is not the point
>>54124412
>that kind of brand loyalty is just as dumb as the apple fanboy mentality, especially recent thinkpads
never said anything about recent ones. I thought memepads were just that, memes, for years. Bought an x220, and fell in love. Now I use it over my fuckton expensive newer laptop.
>>54124443
This.
Everyone thinks they're a meme until they actually use one.
I fell in love with my cheap ass T420
Waht do you guise think?
>>54124471
>1025x768
dropped
>>54124471
What's the green pepper joke? I never got it
>>54124491
srry the original was in that resolution when I decided to fix it
>>54124499
>>54124471
>>54124499
>>54124507
This fucking guy. I find more reasons to love him everyday
>>54124454
>>54124443
I ordered a T400, I'm going to disable the webcam and interior microphone, and put libreboot and a free wifi card, run a pure free Debian on it. I can't wait. true freedom is in my reach.
>>54124614
Wish I could do that, but apparently it's not so easy to put a libreboot
>>54124614
Different strokes for different folks I guess
I just run Debian with contrib non-free and GRUB, without bothering to disable the webcam or microphone, and using the intel wifi card that came with it
>>54124311
>tech support
Hows it feel paying a drop out neckbeard thousands of dollars to type a secret sudo command,and fixes it,all while you're none the wiser
>>54124371
Im not buying a mac because i can build 4 computers and still have money left over
>>54124432
and if you watch the video hes specifically bashing certain models of MBP and he then says that the 2013 and 2014 version are fine
thinkpads havent exactly had an immaculate lineup, especially since the lenovo thing
>>54124311
>tech support
this guy can beat the Genius bar while wasted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM6EO7_5cho
Does anyone know how I can install Plasma 5.6 on Kubuntu 16.04? Right now, I'm using Plasma 5.5.5, is there any way to upgrade?
>>54124761
Just wait for your distro to make it available? Less of a chance to run into trouble that way
>>54124809
Yeah. I figured. I'll wait for KDE Neon User edition though as they let you use the latest stable KDE applications made available.
>>54124761
It's still just as bad as the older version. I'm not joking. KDE is just bad no matter what. It's a dead project.
>>54124854
>KDE is just bad no matter what. It's a dead project.
lol whut?
>>54124854
Huh. What should I use if KDE is bad? I just switched from GNOME as people told me it was bad, I know Cinnamon/MATE exists but they aren't to my liking.
>>54124869
>What should I use if KDE is bad?
What do you mean? Did you even try it? Or are you just going to dismiss it cause some anon told you so?
Personally, coming from GNOME, Plasma felt great.
>>54123981
Who?
>>54124869
Gnome is fine, if you like it, use it. You can think for yourself. KDE fans are very vocal but it's clearly objectively the worst. I assume you're asking about the new version because you think it will fix problems you're having? It won't. KDE has been slow and buggy for a decade.
Anyone who says KDE is better than Gnome is just mentally incapable.
What advantages/disadvantages do I face when choosing between Debian Testing and Debian Unstable?
For regular desktop/laptop use, I mean.
>>54124922
>Anyone who says KDE is better than Gnome is just mentally incapable.
Runs better on my memepad than gnome m8. i might just be an exception, but my experience was great.
>>54124707
>i cant stand linux because when i hit home on my pdf readers it doesnt go to the first page
and you people eat this guy's shit on a platter
You took the bait.
>>54124922
kdedialog is literally the only thing positive about kde
>>54124922
Tyrel Wellick confirmed for mentally incapable
>>54124945
>running a de on a mempad
kek
>>54124273
>Permission denied. This incident will be reported.
>>54124967
It. Runs. Great. Learn to read, fucktard
>>54124922
Ah. No. I know that KDE is buggy though. I just like having new features though, that's all. I know everything has bugs though. I switched because I used to use Ubuntu GNOME but I got real tired because I couldn't customize much so I went with Kubuntu, I mean I find it a little better but it's filled with bugs, but I mean it's okay though. Can you please give some reasons why KDE is bad though? I never thought of it as bad though.
>>54124967
I don't feel the need to appear as a l33thacker to everyone in the outside world, I just like getting work done and moving on
>>54124273
>insert user password(note:password must be 7inches or longer)
>>54124984
>I. Do. Not. Care. If. It. Is. Greate.
Learn to read,why waste resources on a de when you can get literally any other wm and get better performance on your nippad
>>54124985
Gnome has something called Gnome Extensions. DId you maybe over look it? It allows you to install addons for gnome that change it, kind of like firefox.
>>54124944
Pls respond
>>54124988
Use efficent window placement,so you dont have to waste time using a nub?
>>54124944
Risk of breaking if you don't read when you update vs 6 months to a year of freezing and being outdated depending on how close the next debian is for release. Generally I've had more unfixed breakage on Testing. In Sid shit moves so fast that it gets fixed pretty quickly.
>>54125007
>better performance
Again: It runs great. It's snappy, no lag. Absolutely no need to gauge my eyes with a nail to be able to use a WM
>>54125011
Yup. I know GNOME Extensions. I never looked over it, in fact I'm pretty sure I had so much that my desktop would often take 20 seconds to even load all of my extensions after booting. I know, they're great, I'm pretty sure KDE has something similar to "extensions" but GNOME Extensions still never really gave me that much customization, though to be fair I only used the GNOME Extensions website to download my extensions.
>>54125035
But as long as I do safe dist-upgrades on sid I should be fine, right?
I saw a guy here saying his full dist-upgrade was asking him to remove gdm3 and a bunch of GNOME stuff. That's temporary, right?
>>54125058
I don't know what you're talking about, GNOME extensions added next to nothing to my boot time and I use like 15 of them
>Applications menu
>Caffeine
>Coverflow alt-tab
>Dash to dock
>Drop down terminal
>Media player indicator
>Native window placement
>No topleft hot corner
>Openweather
>Places status indicator
>Pomodoro
>Removable drive menu
>Suspend button
>User themes
>Workplace indicator
Post comfy bashrc aliases, I could use some
These are mine so far:alias home='cd ~/'
alias gg='cd my-work-folder'
alias md='jupyter notebook'
alias ggmd='jupyter notebook my-work-folder'
alias sau='sudo aptitude update'
alias safe='sudo aptitude safe-upgrade'
alias full='sudo aptitude full-upgrade'
alias sai='sudo aptitude install'
alias sar='sudo aptitude remove'
alias sac='sudo aptitude autoclean'
alias c='clear'
>>54125090
Please runsystemd-analyze blameand post result
which packages on a debian unstable dist-upgrade should you NEVER let be deleted to prevent bricking the system?
>>54125061
Safe upgrading is not a big deal. It should be fixed eventually, if not, ask in debian IRC on freenode and see if they can help. If you don't use gnome or kde at all you probably won't as many issues, since it's usually those giant meta packages with lots of dependencies that cause problems. So bonus points if you're a wm user.
>>54125135
If a dist-upgrade can brick your system, it's totally broken.
>>54125121
alias tower=' cd ~/'
alias cast=' sudo apt-get install'
alias grimoire=' man'
alias disenchant=' sudo apt-get remove'
alias rejuvenate=' sudo apt-get update'
alias purge=' sudo apt-get autoclean'
>>54125126
Ok400ms lvm2-monitor.service
283ms dev-mapper-DebianSSD\x2dRoot.device
223ms ModemManager.service
196ms accounts-daemon.service
167ms exim4.service
155ms minissdpd.service
154ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-54d46282\x2da581\x2d4b9b\x2d9b9e\x2d8f5161faa470.service
150ms irqbalance.service
146ms home-ignacio-.swapfile.swap
139ms gdomap.service
137ms speech-dispatcher.service
112ms upower.service
108ms systemd-user-sessions.service
108ms iio-sensor-proxy.service
107ms packagekit.service
102ms keyboard-setup.service
102ms rc-local.service
102ms systemd-modules-load.service
78ms systemd-logind.service
78ms NetworkManager.service
59ms systemd-journald.service
57ms avahi-daemon.service
52ms systemd-rfkill.service
46ms networking.service
44ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-DAC3\x2d6543.service
38ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
37ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
35ms data.mount
34ms udisks2.service
32ms systemd-udevd.service
30ms binfmt-support.service
29ms systemd-timesyncd.service
23ms nfs-common.service
21ms dev-mqueue.mount
20ms dev-hugepages.mount
20ms [email protected]
17ms rsyslog.service
17ms systemd-remount-fs.service
16ms colord.service
16ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
16ms gdm.service
14ms polkitd.service
14ms wpa_supplicant.service
14ms systemd-fsck@dev-mapper-DebianSSD\x2dHome.service
13ms bluetooth.service
etcStartup finished in 1.775s (kernel) + 1.216s (userspace) = 2.992s
>>54125194
there are two kinds of dist-upgrade: safe and full. Safe doesn't break anything as it doesn't remove any packages. Full can leave you without GNOME if you don't read what it's warning you it will remove. It doesn't actually brick a system, specially if you read what it's telling you that it's gonna do before you confirm.
Using netctl.its spending 4 seconds on the config service and another 4 secs loading its self.
Is this intended or am i misconfigured?
>>54125208
Jesus fuck that's fast. You have an SSD?
>>54125242
Sounds totally broken to me. An upgrade should never leave your system in an unusable state.
>>54125246
I dont understand why anyone would bother with HDDs for their OS anymore.
>>54125272
Then don't use debian sid.
>>54125246
Yes, that's on my desktop.
On my memepad which only has an HDD but the exact same setup this is the time:7.131s keyboard-setup.service
6.767s exim4.service
5.898s ModemManager.service
5.475s dev-mapper-IgnacioTP\x2d\x2dvg\x2droot.device
4.693s accounts-daemon.service
3.648s NetworkManager.service
3.310s systemd-logind.service
2.956s gdomap.service
2.928s rc-local.service
2.923s rsyslog.service
2.923s lvm2-monitor.service
2.922s pppd-dns.service
2.853s speech-dispatcher.service
2.787s iio-sensor-proxy.service
2.223s avahi-daemon.service
1.747s systemd-udevd.service
1.731s bluetooth.service
1.577s irqbalance.service
1.354s polkitd.service
1.345s dev-mqueue.mount
1.340s dev-hugepages.mount
1.340s sys-kernel-debug.mount
1.336s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
1.317s systemd-remount-fs.service
1.154s systemd-modules-load.service
1.120s systemd-journald.service
926ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-41B5\x2dA449.service
896ms networking.service
826ms boot-efi.mount
619ms packagekit.service
597ms dev-mapper-IgnacioTP\x2d\x2dvg\x2dswap.swap
594ms gdm.service
555ms minissdpd.service
502ms binfmt-support.service
493ms udisks2.service
464ms systemd-user-sessions.service
354ms nfs-common.service
326ms colord.service
325ms ufw.service
etcStartup finished in 3.805s (kernel) + 20.669s (userspace) = 24.474s
>>54125294
Debian should have atomic upgrades, not broken upgrades.
>>54125302
Still not too shabby. I run up to 50 seconds. About 15 seconds is just wasted on luks ecryption shit.
>>54125346
I've been wondering if I should encrypt my laptop, in case it gets stolen
Are there any disadvantages other than longer boot time? Would you recommend?
>>54125090
Lemme rephrase my sentence. I had maybe ~25 extensions, my boot time is okay but loading the desktop was glitchy, it loaded the desktop with no extensions and after maybe 15 seconds all extensions were loaded. Maybe it's just my laptop. Maybe it's GNOME. Though, I don't think it's my laptop as I have really decent specs.
>>54125417
I don't know what to tell you, it starts up fast and is super snappy on my T420
I can see why you'd dislike it if it loaded up so glitchy
>>54125346
>>54125302
>>5412537114.280s [email protected]
12.538s systemd-udev-settle.service
10.769s systemd-journald.service
10.134s dev-mapper-fedora\x2droot.device
7.582s firewalld.service
7.129s ModemManager.service
6.970s accounts-daemon.service
3.872s abrtd.service
3.581s libvirtd.service
3.566s lvm2-pvscan@253:0.service
3.533s packagekit.service
3.524s lvm2-monitor.service
3.333s systemd-logind.service
3.257s netcf-transaction.service
3.257s gssproxy.service
3.166s systemd-journal-flush.service
3.098s livesys.service
3.072s polkit.service
2.812s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
2.617s rsyslog.service
2.447s systemd-udevd.service
2.192s proc-fs-nfsd.mount
2.119s plymouth-start.service
1.999s cups.service
1.764s chronyd.service
1.644s fedora-readonly.service
1.625s avahi-daemon.service
1.257s unbound-anchor.service
1.067s colord.service
1.028s [email protected]
808ms kmod-static-nodes.service
807ms systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service
775ms [email protected]
745ms abrt-ccpp.service
724ms [email protected]
659ms dev-mapper-fedora\x2dswap.swap
632ms [email protected]
605ms dmraid-activation.service
553ms systemd-fsck@dev-mapper-fedora\x2dhome.service
No disadvantages that I am aware of. Only annoying thing is that you have to enter a password during bootsplash., so none can even get to the login screen, without your password. All in the name of safety. Would I recommend? Sure, better safe then sorry, I guess.
Also noticed that you don't have a firewall. It takes 7 seconds for my to boot up.
>>54125435
Ah. I have a Lenovo Yoga 900. I never really knew why GNOME did that.
>>54125417
Extensions can do pretty much anything, which means they can break your desktop or cause problems like this. It could be one offending extension, or a certain combination of them.
Try to pare down the number of extensions you use to only ones that are really important to you. Any of the extensions maintained upstream in GNOME should be good because you they should always work well, and if they don't you should report it.
https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell-extensions/tree/extensions
>>54125121
The only one I really use:alias la='ls -lAhF'
>>54125448
How man drives are you unlocking on boot,damn
>>54125487
Well. I would do this, but as you may know by now, I use KDE Plasma now. I really should have tried to be more careful when using extensions, shouldn't I? Well, I guess thanks for the suggestion. If I ever do go back to GNOME I'll see what I can do.
>>54125448
I do have a firewall
It's ufw
Please don't laugh, is it bad?
>>54124338
/pol/ leaks too much, we should delete it.
>>54125576
No fucking way dude.
I'd rather have leakages over an entire fucking flood of these people
>>54125592
Just ban hate speech and have the mods enforce the rules.
>>54125567
I have no idea m8, I just haven't noticed it's there. Guess that's why they call it 'uncomplicated' firewall, eh?
Should I do a clean install when Ubuntu 16 comes out? Or doing dist-upgrade works? I'm running 15.10 btw
>>54122674
back to /r/berniesanders
>>54125545
feck, no clue. Really should get around to seeing if any of this shit is necessary, but I can't be bothered. Any suggestions?
Debian sid is asking me to remove GNOME and then suggesting I install a number of other DE's (Cinammon, lxde, qt, openbox, etc) when I ask it for alternative ways to solve the conflict
I find it kinda humorous.Remove the following packages:
1) gdm3
2) gnome
3) gnome-core
4) gnome-session
5) gnome-shell
6) gnome-shell-extension-weather
7) gnome-shell-extensions
8) gnome-shell-pomodoro
9) libmutter0g
10) openjdk-7-jre
11) openjdk-7-jre-headless
12) task-gnome-desktop
13) tzdata-java
>>54125535
>la
use just l nigga, get comfy
>>54125633
(this is when trying to do a full dist-upgrade, mind you. I guess I'll stick with safe dist-upgrades for a while.)
>>54125639alias iNigga='ls -lAhF'
done, and done.
>>54123981
I don't know how to feel about this picture.
First I laughed, then I cried.
It's kind of weird when all of a sudden the thread goes silent
I want to dual boot. When i go to the boot options to boot in a liveUSB i can either boot it under UEFI or legacy, i changed the bootmode of my pc to legacy, does it matter which one i pick? Windows was installed under UEFI.
>>54125857
Don't worry Papa RMS is here to keep you company
>>54122565
>homeless man wants free beer
Why am I not surprised?
>>54125894
>Windows what installed under UEFI
Then you must install Linux in UEFI mode if you don't want to have problems, m80. Turn that Firmware Setup back on to UEFI only mode, and make sure the USB you made is in UEFI mode as well (RUFUS lets you do this on Windows)
>>54125915
*was installed
sorry
As a sidenote, does anyone here see any reason for sticking with Legacy BIOS?
UEFI just seems plain better and more modern but maybe that's just my uneducated assessment on the issue
>>54125926
Alright thanks man.
>>54125940
Also you might need to disable SecureBoot on your Firmware setup, don't know if it's required but I did it anyway
>>54125955
>>>/tumblr/
I'm currently running Fedora 23 with XFCE DE, when 24 is released will it be an easy upgrade and will I be able to keep my XFCE DE or will I be best doing a fresh install?
>>54125982
Either way is fine m8. Still, make sure to keep a backup just in case.
>>54125995
Thanks, yeah I back up regularly anyhow
>>54125966
Will turn it off, better safe then sorry.
>>54125926
>does anyone here see any reason for sticking with Legacy BIOS?
Unless your mobo is old and comes with bios, the option for legacy bios is just an emulation layer uefi runs, tricking your OS that it's a legacy system.
>>54126090
UEFI is a horrible system,i dont need mouse support or ricer gauges when the plan bios has been working fine for literal fucking decades and with when using linux,you can delete your efivars and brick your motherboard.
>>54125955
Literally communism.
You faggots better vote Trump when Bernie drops out
>>54126220
He's my second choice. Better to say FUCK YOU DNC then vote for a crook.
>>54126158
so much this
uefi is a horribly implemented solution to a problem that didn't exist
Guys, I have a folder with a few dozen symlinks to images that are stored in a large unorganized image folder.
Do any bash wizards know how I could
>Copy over all of the actual files that these symlinks point to to another folder
?
>>54126283
You copy the files over?
Your symlink will direct your copy command to the new place
Hi there /g/uys! Im trying to get pianobar to work in Arch and it installs fine, I login, pick my station, and I get this error -
ao_alsa ERROR: Unable to open ALSA device 'default' for playback => Invalid argument
/!\ Cannot open audio device.
Anybody have any clue how I can fix this so I can get my cli pandora on??
>>54126309
If I copy the symlinks, it won't copy the actual files, just the symlinks
I don't want to hunt down the original for every symlink since they're a bunch
>>54126310
Kys
>>54126325
Thanks for the advice but its not as constructive as I thought it'd be
>>54126325
I first saw this abbreviation when cringe-browsing the Counter Strike General and now I can't even take it seriously because I equate you to those faggots
>>54126324
What method?
file manager
rsync?
Rsync you can do either
But a file manager will copy the file,not the symlimk
you even have to use a switch with cp to make it not copy the files over. ( -p )
>>54126376
>But a file manager will copy the file,not the symlink
I used Nautilus, and it copied the symlinks, not the files
How can I do it from the terminal?
>>54122565
How can I amplify volume from mpd above 100%
>>54126406
Check nautilius settings,i know its not standard on the 3 ive used
cp files /new/folder/
>>54126498
>cp
Have you got something to tell us, anon?
>>54126498
Thanks anon,cp * /new/folder/while in the symlink folder did the trick
>>54126498
Why does hardlinkling something create a file with an extra, separate size in memory if the file is pointing at the same inode?
>tfwsudo emerge -uDU @world || shutdown -h now
>>54126617
Come get me FBI, I have 3 tb worth.
I installed letsencrypt on my VPS the other day, and now when I try to log in to my email with thunderbird the "add security exception" window pops up, and when I click the "confirm security exception" button the window pops up again, preventing me from logging in.
What could cause this and how would I fix it?
>>54127636
the certificate the VPS provides works fine on my laptop running arch, but on my desktop running windows it doesn't like it, and even after importing the certificate it will still keep asking to add a exception
>>54123579
>asks about vim
>answers with arch
Archfags are worse than Vegans, American Atheists and Crossfit faggots. They never shut up. Always yapping away telling everyone they use Arch Linux in every forum and comments section totally unrelated to Arch Linux.
>>54127941
What's your mail setup on the host?
Dovecot had issues with letsencrypt certs.
>>54123579
Want a better solution?
C+v
*select all the first columns of lines you need to edit out*
S+i
Press # and exit out of the insert mode.
Might take a second to appear on the screen if you're using Vim in console.
>>54128103
he mentioned arch because he was providing an example of vim being useful and advantageous over nano
STFU faggot
>>54128316
>triggered arch fag
Sorry I hurt your feelings. For example I wrote this post in vim on arch. But that's just an example, I'm not bragging
>>54128353
>>54128316 is a legitimate point, you're just shitposting
you're just salty because you couldn't install arch and had to fall back to ubuntu
Why is the network manager so shit on GNOME?
I cant figgure out how to install my PIA vpn files... And I want to figgure this out before using Deluge to get the new Ubuntu ISo within the next few days... What do /fglt/?
sorry im a skid :(
>>54128368
>you're just salty because you couldn't install arch and had to fall back to ubuntu
Arch is literally a paint by numbers installation. Nothing special or hard.
>>54128380
I'm using NetworkManager, and all I do is right click on the tray icon > edit connections > add > import a saved vpn connection and it just werks
>>54128418
Yeah but I get this error message. Ill try and follow the instructions better on their website. I may send them a email or some shit being that their latest walkthrough was for 12.04.
Ive done it plenty of times on Unity and Lubuntu so idk...
The file 'install_ubuntu.sh' could not be read or does not contain recognized VPN connection information
Error: unknown PPTP file extension
>>54128455
you're supposed to runinstall_ubuntu.sh/code] in a terminal
>>54128472
i did, Im going to update and restart now and see if thats the problem lol
>>54128411
Nice NSFW picture fag-lord, my boss just fired me.
>>54128411
I'd watch my language if I were you:
Arch is the hacker's choice.
You're probably rooted and backdoored as we speak.
>>54124922
KDE 5.6.2 is fuckton better than GNOME 3.20 in terms of usability, features, aesthetics and stability.
Hell, GNOME is just a pile of futerless piece of shit maintained by indians these days. There is no reason to use this garbage over cinnamon in the year of 2016
>>54128411
No matter how much you deny, you are a worthless unbreedable /v/ spillage. Kill yourself manchild
>>54128770
>KDE
>aesthetics and stability
lol
>>54128941
Come to 2013 grandpa
What is a good alternative to Microsoft Project on Leenux?
I just want to make some Milestone Trend Analysis diagrams n sheet.
>>54128472
it worked, thanks m8
>>54126158
Are you really that knowledgable about BIOS to make such claims? I mean, low-level, intricate knowledge about its workings and shortcomings? How about UEFI? Because it's not nice to make such claims without it. I seriously doubt UEFI is only the ability to use your mouse and fancy graphics. I'm pretty sure there's more to it.
>when using linux,you can delete your efivars and brick your motherboard.
Only the awful UEFI implementations that don't have a backup from which you can restore it suffer from that problem.
>>54128298
Why isn't there a comment feature in vim?
I mean it is a very basic thing everyone uses, vim should detects what type of file it is (like it does with syntax highlighting) and then insert the appropriate comment.
I know, like with everything, you can get a plugin, maybe extend the script yourself, but it should just be there.
>>54129125
Not sure what you mean with comment feature but you can define skeleton code for new files:au BufNewFile *.py 0r ~/.vim/skel/python.py
