Windows 10 kills fragmentation. Users are stupid. Consumers have done it to themselves. For years Microsoft tolerated a million different system configs. with various levels of patches because somebody turned windows update off: had people simply read the guidelines and installed recomended patches none of this would have been necessary.
I'm sorry it sucks for people who are stuck in the old ways, but the future is constantly updated machines. The future is no fragmentation. The future is everyone on the same feature-set. It helps improve the quality of life for everyone.
>win 10 will full screen update and reboot with no warning unless you pay $100 more for the server version
You can disable updates by using Wi-Fi and marking the connection as a metered connection.
I have done this only because if I don't, there's a risk that Windows will automatically restart at 3 AM, when my machine is in sleep mode next to my bed. The restart takes the machine out of sleep mode and makes its fans whirr, waking me up at 4 AM.
This has happened twice, and it is not happening again.
>>54102762
>there's a risk that Windows will automatically restart at 3 AM, when my machine is in sleep mode next to my bed. The restart takes the machine out of sleep mode and makes its fans whirr, waking me up at 4 AM.
jesus christ what a nightmare
I've had Win update disabled for six years since I got my [spoiler]laptop[/spoiler]. Recently installed Linux, now I want to reinstall Win7 for dual-booting. Will installing the OEM version be possible without a forced update to Windows 10?
Please say yes.
>>54102762
you paid for this?
>>54102790
Maby
>>54102760
>>54102762
People complain about viruses and all kinds of bullshit that would have been prevented if they just kept their system updated.
There's no reason for anyone to be using Windows XP or Windows 7 in 2016.
>>54102796
No, I updated when it was still nagging you about the free upgrade.
>>54102762
botnet
>>54102817
>There's no reason for anyone to be using Windows XP or Windows 7 in 2016.
Come on people!
>>54102790
You should be able to force keeping 7 (there are instructions how here and there). MS really wants you on 10, though.
>>54102624
They need to do it apple-way or linux-way and finally drop bloated shitton of backward compatibility which literally allows to run fucking dos programs on new versions of windows in 2016.
>>54102762
Why don't u switch to 8/7?
>>54102817
>no reason
how about because I want to? now go kys shill
>>54102624
The only reason MS is pushing for always updated windows is so that they have hassle feeding you ads.
Nice try though pajeet
HOW TO KILL UPDATES.
OPEN UP STARTUP TASK
DISABLE WINDOWS UPDATE
YOU DID IT CONGRATS
>>54102953
They shall be reset
>>54102972
What the fuck does that even mean? It turns itself back on? Fuck off, it doesn't. I have had them disabled since I installed Windows 10 in November except for when I downloaded the 1511 Update. Pic fucking related. All this shit about Telemetry being always on is bogus too. I turned it off completely months ago. Still hasn't turned itself back on.
>inb4 Wireshark.gif
>>54102874
I googled all kinds of different combination of "force", "no upgrade", "windows 7", "windows 10" and "clean install" but didn't come up with anything. Care to point a guide out to me?
Also should I install the OEM version or get a torrented version? I only want to keep this for vidya and maybe POSSIBLY for programs I can't run through Wine.
>>54102624
that's nice and all but can the hemegon OS not suck major ass though?
>>54102624
>fragmentation
college-baby heard a new word, and now it's using it whenever it can. dawwww.
>>54102885
>>54102938
>>54103112
>>54103113
>>54103113
Are you fucking 12? Android is the biggest fragmentation clusterfuck in history.
Users are fucking stupid
They dont even know to just disable the windows update service to stop updates.
>>54103086
Something about the registers and windows update. I did it a while back and have not had it pop up since. It still shows up on the bottom right on my laptop though, however, I did do that one more recently so that might be why.
>>54103039
>What the fuck does that even mean?
What he said, except it's not correct. If you did have Windows Update on, then your other settings would have been reset, services turned back on etc. Since Windows Update does this and you've disabled it, nothing can happen.
But then you also don't get security updates, so that's not a great solution.
>>54102902
Enjoy your viruses.
>>54102624
In most parts I agree this is only beneficial for average consumer:
But still if you want to just avoid updates and have ability to customize block / remove features just use windows 10 enterprise version.
>>54103742
Not him but I've been using Windows 7 for over a year now, no anti virus, updates turned off and I still don't have a virus. What's funny though is that Windows 10 had recently been targeted with ransomware.
>>54103977
OSS and Linux also have ransomware. Your point? Rather stay updated to the latest software to stay safe.
>>54104029
I also use OSX, but there's no need to warn people for viruses as long as they don't do dumb shit. I prefer 7 over 10 by a landslide, if Microsoft didn't do this stupid bs with 10 it would have been an instant upgrade, I'd actually would have bought it even.
>>54103086
Just outright disable Windows Update. I did that years ago and have never ever been asked to upgrade to Windows 10.
>>54104144
What I'm worried about is WUpdate being enabled when I do a fresh install so it upgrades before I get a chance to disable it.
I'm trying out Wine for game emulation first.
>>54104180
Disable it before you put it on a network then.
>>54104029
>Linux also have ransomware
No
7 sp1
no problems here, ms needs to fuck off lol
>>54104180
You can do that during Windows installation, it will ask you whether you want to enable automatic updates, enable manual updates, or disable updates altogether.
Even if it doesn't, worst case scenario - just disconnect your computer from the internet until you're done with basic setup (booting into Windows first time, disabling services and that).
>>54102624
Windows microsoft was the worst thing even for decades. They used to not have a auto update system at all. They would just post a patch on the site list all the vulnerabilities it fixed and then watch everyone get the viruses that instantly got made because of it.
>>54102788
My work computer has restard in the middle of taking care of a customer in the middle of the day. I turned around to get something came back and it had already loaded back into windows.
>>54104221
>>54104194
hurr durr I'm retarded.
>>54103039
POO
>>54103977
Hi I'm running Windows 10 is any of this ransomware?
>>54102790
>[spoiler]
spot the /v/ manchild
>>54103177
cum-gurgler, this thread is about windows
Sounds like a great way to turn a render farm into a pile of horseshit.
>inb4 why is your render farm connected to the Internet
It's great to be able to push renders to it when I'm away from home.
>>54104279
no, but its all a botnet
>>54104279
Yes.
>>54104280
I haven't been on /v/ in years. Why would I go there when I actually play video games?
>>54102885
>Literally breaking most of the worlds OS's and PC's because of a few retards who dont upgrade.
Hell alot of people are still using XP Vista 7 and 8 just let them rot and die in ignorance.
Windows 10 isnt perfect but most of its problems can be fixed with spybot anti beacon and Classic Shell and some other little tweaks.
>>54104395
Wsus
>>54104280
holy shit you were right
/v/ migrant memes are real
>>54104558
I'm not terribly interested in paying for server licenses or installing a cracked OS. I bought a stack of Windows 7 home licenses for £5 a machine.
>Microsoft forces restarts when it updates
>Meanwhile these guys are making parody videos about uptime and no reboot patching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbABy9ul11I
>>54104543
hang yourself, microshill
>>54104619
>Posts in a windows thread
Ironic a unix shill is calling me a shill.
i dont run around and tell linux fags to install windows.
if their dumb enough not to dual boot and visualize who fucks a give
>>54104648
>their
>fucks a give
>>54104197
>No
YES https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux.Encoder.1
>>54104717
Linux.Encoder.1, the "Linux" crypto-ransomware, is not a Linux security hole. This malware relies on a security hole in the Magento web e-commerce platform, not Linux.
Good attempt, shill
>>54104279
>>54103280
I don't like being forced to update
>disable updates
But then you don't get updates.
>>54102624
>Feature update pushed out that you don't want.
>Said new feature comes with an abusive ToS allowing them to sell your shit to advertisers
>Windows 10 ToS states by using the service you automatically consent to all ToS amendments.
Example of a likely possible scenario as to why forced updates are cancer. There is a difference between security updates and features.
>>54104795
Protip: That's how all ransomware is installed.
>>54104921
There is a difference between not wanting a new feature and wanting security updates. Picking and choosing updates is the best solution.
Actually something changed recently.
When it shows me the "updates available" notifications and I esc out of it, it will not display it again until I update and new updates are available after updating.
Before it kept bugging me every day about the "delayed" updates.
This is pro version though, I know home guys don't get the choice.
So it's basically like updates in 7 if you got the pro version.
Literally the only thing that changed is that you can't tell it when to look for updates - it will do it on its own in background.
As for OP - yes. Forced updates are for normies (home edition users) for all the reasons you provided.
>>54105040
>Protip
No, more like computer illiterate tip. Kill self.
>>54104891
It's my dad's laptop that my sister borrowed for a few days. She tried to watch TV for free and believed every ad and popup she saw.
>>54103742
>viruses
>2016
How dumb are you to still get viruses
>>54105108
>Thinking people getting malwares back in 2000 were not dumb
>>54104717
>The program use the libc rand() function with the timestamp at the moment of encryption as seed
>Because of the use of the timestamp as a seed [...] researchers found a way to recover the files
Not even malware works on your shitty hobby OS, freetards.
ya know, it's funny. I told /g/ this was going to happen months ago and no one believed me. Quit bitching, you retards wee warned,
>>54105180
>Malware doesn't work
That's the point you dumb hindu code monkey
>>54105180
Great thing that malware works perfectly on Windows
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There is nothing wrong with telemetry.
There is everything wrong with not being able to opt out of it, which you can not do at all.
It does not help that Microsoft repeatedly used dishonest methods(and continues to do so) to sneak Windows 10 on people's computers before forcing them to upgrade because they did not know better or are just not informed enough to do anything about it. Then the audacity to brag about how many people switched over without mentioning that a significant portion of those were forced to. It says a lot about the product.
>>54103086
i torrented installed a OEM version 3 days ago of old win 7, i not force to update win 10.
>>54102762
>having to chose between no security updates or no control over when and which are installed
What a fucking joke. Im glad I ditched windows.
The future is no M$ fucktardery. MicroTard.
>>54102760
they assume you're an idiot if you use the consumer version because the average user is computer illiterate; there's no problem with this, people that "know what they're doing and don't need hand holding" can use something else, they're not the majority anyway
This shit is what convinced me to get a Macbook. Windows tries too hard to be helpful, fucking over the usability and the user interface in the process. TWO control panels, one of which is a confusing mess of huge, vague buttons and ugly animations. Don't forget the copious amounts of whitespace because flat designnnnnnnn
It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't turn Windows into this one gigantic pile of shit by slapping on UIs designed for tablets in Windows 8 and then adding in desktop support as a fucking afterthought? UWP has little value and I'm not interested in tacky apps that were made by someone who designed everything for a phone and left 24" screens with 180dpi buttons and one-click navigation.
Bash on Windows will only add to the clusterfuck since it's still depending on a fucking Ubuntu VM running in the background, which is pathetic and useless since it won't interoperate with Windows applications. Cool, we have grep, awk and sed, but we can't use them with anything. It's not going to entice developers back because it's nearly the same thing as running Ubuntu in VMWare and running PuTTY.
You don't control Windows 10; Windows 10 controls you. I only use it for video games now because it's so goddamn worthless at anything else.
>>54106265
>This shit is what convinced me to get a Macbook
stopped reading your blog there; such a retard can't have an opinion worth a shit
>>54106265
Lol. You have to update your Mac or face the same vulnerabilities.
>le "windows is not a meme" meme
the future is linux, not an unconfigurable facebook machine that requires an iq lower than your shoesize.
windows is not even an real os any longer, just an optional requirement for running steam.
>>54106487
>>54106769
>>54106862
Winfags
Applefags
Ubuntufags.
BSD MASTER RACE
I can't even install updates on my computer, even if I wanted to. The update service just maxes out a CPU thread and uses 1-2 GB of RAM and does fucking nothing with it, no matter how long I let it try. Even tried a fresh install with different media but still got the same shit. Quality fucking OS, Microsoft.
>>54106862
>windows is not even an real os any longer, just an optional requirement for running steam.
You've obviously never heard of the ADVERTISING industry or the GAMING industry or the ARCHITECTURE industry where Linux will never make inroads
>>54102790
yeah you're cool i've been doing fresh w7 installs even when 10's release i'm not getting any prompts for 10 except from like hotmail
>>54103182
BUT LE EBIC IT TURNS ITSELF BACK ON MEME XDDDD
>>54107078
steam has over 1000 titles for linux & there's plenty of hardware support. as for advertising, fuck 'em, their business model is outdated anyway
>>54107293
Hit a nerve?
>>54106862
REKT
>>54102760
>sever version
Oh yeah? Which one? I thought that was only in the business edition which cannot be bought except in large batches.
>>54102762
This happened to me every fucking night. Setting the network adapter to "do not allow this device to wake the machine" fixes it.
>>54108366
Your machine will die from ransomware because you refuse to update
>>54109933
Install QubesOS
>>54102624
>le mocrosoft wouldn't have to force people to use a computer the way microsoft wants, if people would just use their computers the way microsoft wants
>>54102817
Editor here, some of my apps wont work on Win10.
>>54106016
This isn't the 90s or the 2000s. The average 45+ year old who's bad with computers probably just uses an iPad. They might have an ancient Emachines hooked up to an old CRT collecting dust. There's no reason for people like that to use a full computer.
>>54102817
Fuck off, windows 7 still gets security updates
>>54102762
rofl
>>54102624
>Windows 10 kills fragmentation.
The optimal level of fragmentation in a software ecosystem is >0.
>>54102624
>Users are stupid.
If they run Windows, sure.
>get mad when computer updates itself when you're not using it
>get mad when updates pop up while you're using the computer
Just can't win with some people.
>>54104717
>affected at least tens of Linux users
>>54112735
>what are manual updates
>Windows 10 on laptop
>Finally finish assignment for University Workshop
>Go to show lecturer and receive marks
>Turn on
>Installing your updates lol
Fucking infuriating.
Is there actually a list of updates for 7 to avoid because they try to force getting windows 10?
>>54102624
Lol, shill harder.
Are people unaware that there is an official solution provided by microsoft to prevent windows 10 upgrade? It may stop working some day since ms wants everyone to upgrade, but at least it has worked for me so far.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351
>>54108021
no but it's damn funny what you freetards make up to talk the best OS down
>>54110839
1 is > 0
we only need 1 fragment
everything past 1 is not necessarily bad but also increases the diminishing return
and the whole linux ecosystem is somewhere near infinity
>>54102624
>the future is constantly updated machines
I agree.
But not with Microsoft pushing bullshit, because half the shit they force you to install aren't "updates", it's fucking telemetry, bullshit features you don't need, and retarded evolutions that break existing software.
>>54102624
ah they finally realized apple was right all along
>>54106769
yeah but osx updates are actually gud
>>54102762
>I have done this only because if I don't, there's a risk that Windows will automatically restart at 3 AM,
so then switch off the power switch at the socket.
Oh wait, you live in murrica where you have peasant power points
>>54102817
>People complain about viruses and all kinds of bullshit that would have been prevented if they just kept their system updated.
YEAH BECAUSE I REALLY NEED MY COMPANY COMPUTERS TO RESTART UNEXPECTEDLY AND SCREW WITH THE ENTIRE COMPANY PROCESS.
>>54102817
Underage fags like you who only lived in the vista era wouldn't understand
I do accounting and my programs don't run in OS newer than XP
Well, yes, but that means old applications will break. So, fuck Windows 10.
>>54114493
>clinging to the old ways
Toppest of all keyks. If it were up to people like you, we'd all still be using windows 95 and 4;3 crt monitors
>>54114522
> A new update comes out
> Breaks software
> You should pay a full retail price for a new "fixed" release of software
> That will happen every year
It's like you want to be fucked.
>>54102624
OK!
But enjoy your botnet with spyware, adware, nagware and malware shit.
>>54114492
You're retarded if you're connecting a machine running XP to the internet in 2016.
>>54113384
Update != upgrade, retard.
>>54115016
Windows xp desktop market share is pretty much the same as Windows 8.1
https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0
>>54102624
>The future is everyone on the same feature-set. It helps improve the quality of life for everyone.
This sounds like some red-commie-faggot-bullshit right here.
