Why would anyone use Linux now that Windows officially has the Bash shell. You'd have to be a huge neckbeard to use Linux as a desktop.
Has anyone here actually met someone in real life who uses Linux? Do they leave their house?
people use Linux for Freedom™, not for bash. The point is to get away from Windows and its baggage.
>>54093501
>Do they leave their house?+ 0 post omitted.
Do you? Because it seems like you just spend all day shitposting
>>54093618
>+ 0 post omitted.
God damn it 4chan X
>>54093501
I'm starting to get tired of this meme
>>54093618
You seem more autistic than OP desu
>>54093682
Fuck off OP
>>54093501
Protip: Bash isn't why people use Linux.
M$ fails again.
>>54093501
>Has anyone here actually met someone in real life who uses Linux?
Most major corporations use it. Business over 5 employees often use it at least by proxy. Basically if you have a job you've probably had contact with Linux regardless of whether you realize it.
The only good reason I've found to use Linux is that it runs well on old hardware because it's lightweight.
I've never seen a use for it outside of that, and it's pretty tough to tear me away from like 26 years of using a the Windows environment.
>>54093837
That's server though.
The context of the question was obviously aimed at desktop / laptop Linux use.
>>54094504
I mean there are some obvious reasons
>free
>runs well on old hardware
>complete control over your own OS
>most people just use computers for the web so OSs dont really matter that much
for me it was the complete control. As a programmer I like to tell my computer how to do things and not the other way around. I also like to style my computer without the overhead of running a program ontop of the existing desktop environment. The fact that when something goes wrong I have the option of going into the OS files and changing them, and that those changes are all well documented, often telling me what they do inside their own config files, unlike the registry editor or most of the "windows" folder which you can only really properly edit by involving microsoft(how many times have you read "I contacted M$ and they told me to edit XXX Keys in the regedit). Just the modularity of linux astounds me, sure its nothing like the minix days but I can remove and replace the desktop enviornment, network manager, and even the kernel it self(of course removing the kernel is generally a bad idea, but you get the point). Linux is wonderful in this way.
But it cant play directX games so it might as well belong in the trash.
>>54093501
I use zsh on GNU/Linux, and frankly that's not even one of the main reasons I use GNU/Linux to begin with. Also, I hate /g/ for making me second guess calling it Linux or GNU/Linux.
>>54093501
Fuck you pajeet windows shill stop spreading muslim extremism
>>54093501
Linux is a lighter, more secure server OS which allows managers to upgrade more easily than Windows Server 20XX.
>>54093837
>Most major corporations use it
only because it's free as in free beer
>>54095277
Yea, that's why most of them pay for Red Hat. Because paying for stuff means it's free.
>>54093501
>Windows officially has the Bash shell
That doesn't mean the rest of Windows 10 isn't shit. There are ads in the fucking start menu.
>>54094802
>can't play directX games
>what is wine
>>54093501
my company and job would not be possible without Linux and there are millions around the world who share that sentiment.
Only NEETS create threads like this.
>>54095328
You're going to be out of a job when SJWs finish killing Linux.
>>54095360
>You're going to be out of a job when SJWs finish killing Linux.
Good luck, you clearly don't get open source, nor are you probably an adept enough programmer to understand anything I will explain to you.
So here, have my KEK
>windows has Linux features on top of a shitty hacked together 20+ years of poorly documented OS.
I need my OS to just works becasue it's a tool.
Windows doesn't give me that, good for you if it does but go shill your Os elsewhere Pajeet.
>>54095383
>Linux
>Competent programmers
>>54095436
>Has zero experience programming
>NEET hasn't used proprietary software in a professional environment
Proprietary software is guided by two factors: money and deadline
This causes the company that designs the software to look for the cheapest programmer and the programmer to half-ass it to get it done in time.
>>54095436
you have to be 18+ to post here mate
>>54095436
Gee hurry up anon into every data center and server farm you know and tell the engineers they are using a bad quality OS.
Let them know that Red Hat and Canonical are just scammers.
>>54095430
>I need my OS to just works
>Insinuating the implication of linux "just working"
>>54093501
>Some of us are clever enough to use both.
>>54095509
Only neets think a large number of Linux desktops can be managed efficiently without expensive third party tools.
>>54095544
If you are mentally impaired it might not just work for you.
If it didn't i would be using Windows, i'm not emotionally attached to TOOLS like some beta faggot.
>>54095544
>>Insinuating the implication of linux "just working"
confirmed for never using Linux and/or Windows in any environment other than their mom's basement.
Probably comparing Arch Linux to Windows 7 and then thinking they know what the rest of the world's tech industry is really like.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Listen mate, if you're too fucking retarded to understand how a PC really works, fuck off and stop shit posting. We don't like your kind here
>>54093501
I use linux and rarely leave the house. The only person I know who has agoraphobia uses Windows 7. He was supposed to come over the other night but got too scared in the dark and ran home. What the fuck. OP, you don't have your fucken head screwed on. The other two PCs I have running both run FreeBSD because one just plays audio and one just does torrents. I have Windows 98 on a ThinkPad for if I ever get the desire to run games. If I ever get the desire to use a ThinkPad, it boots Debian too.
>not using RAIDz3
>>54095569
>Hasn't heard of python
>Has no clue what chef is
Try learning before arguing.
>>54095594
>responding to trolls this early in the morning
guys who are unemployable try to drag everyone down with them. It's not even an internet thing.
>>54095509
>half-ass it to get it done in time.
Open source is half-ass all the time because special snowflake volunteer developers only want to work on what interests them and no one wants to put in the shit work it takes to produce a finished product.
Then you've got your talent spread across hundreds of slightly different ways to solve one problem because every time someone's feelings get hurt projects get forked.
>>54095594
Go be fat somewhere else.
>>54095624
I'm not even sure how to respond to this. Chances are I'm thinner than you are.
>>54093501
I use Linux because it's free.
I do have windows on my gaming pc, but only because muh games, for everything else I use Fedora or Ubuntu. Linux also performs better and I don't have to bother with an antivirus.
If you don't play video games or use a windows only application or feature, you have no reason not to use Linux.
>>54095594
>python
Manually running hacky scripts over ssh isn't very efficient. What about the computers that don't happen to be powered on? What about those laptops that are almost never in the office?
>chef
Free for up to 10 hosts then $$ for every additional.
You are sounding like the neet that's never been in the real world.
>>54095612
>responding to trolls this early in the morning
I'm not sure he was a troll though, these people have invaded /g/.
Also not morning here.
>>54095569
>Expensive third party tools
>Versus buying windows licenses
>>54093501
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>>54093501
I use it for servers, but for day to day shit Windows 7 SP1 works fine. I also have used redhat and backtrack for school. I don't have anything against linux, I am just a gamer primarily. There is no arguing that Linux is far superior in the security department. A lot of people use it. Different strokes you know, use what you like. Or you can just dual boot.
>>54095678
True, Microsoft licensing is a fucking mess, but until a Linux distro includes management tools, Windows still has the least cost of ownership.
>>54095671
>hacky scripts
Try not being a shitty programmer.
>What about the computers that don't happen to be powered on?
Ever heard of wake-on-lan?
>What about those laptops that are almost never in the office?
The same problem exists for Windows.
>You are sounding like the neet that's never been in the real world.
Now I know you're trolling.
>>54095703
>Windows still has the least cost of ownership.
says the MBA dude with no technical knowledge whatsoever to back that statement up
KEK
>>54095787
>implying all of it isn't free anyway
We get all that shit for free through MSDN legitimately... Not that pirating and local OEM kms activation is even slightly difficult...
If not for gaming Linux > Windows
>>54095267
... this would be a relevant point if anyone was still using Windows Server for anything.
Anything hosted, and anything of consequence is on IIS.
bash is garbage
thankfully, linux, unlike windows, exposes a lot of functionality through virtual filesystems and software tools, so i can automate my OS in a decent language like python instead of a shitty, insecure, slow, godawful GNU fork of a 1970s ALGOL for dummies. windows doesn't do that. windows uses its APIs and powershell.
if you use windows and use bash instead of powershell you're a fucking idiot. bash isn't even a standard, it's yet another pile of retarded quirks on top of standard sh (just like ksh/zsh) so portability is NOT a reason.
>>54096056
>Anything hosted, and anything of consequence is on IIS.
You've never worked in a hosting environment. Protip: it's all Linux.
