Hey /g/ I am in need of a day to day computer, and since I already have a keyboard, mouse and monitor lying around I thought why not give it a try?
But here's my main concerns: Can it act as a daily driver for my needs? i.e Browsing on chrome, sheets and word on Libre, pdf reader, casual watching of movies ? Also does it support USB 3G modems? Cause I got no wifi or Ethernet.
To summarize; can Pi replace an ordinary p.c for casual use?
>>54064504
>To summarize; can Pi replace an ordinary p.c for casual use?
Yes, especially if you're just doing something basic, and even if you just do programming
>>54064516
Support for 3G modems? Especially Micromax 353G? The one I have? It runs on Mint, Ubuntu directly out of the box(plug and play)? Chrome multitab browsing? 4-5 tabs?
The worst thing about a Raspberry Pi is that if it gets shutdown improperly, it will corrupt the SD card can you'll have to reinstall everything.
>>54064764
Use the UPS addon which directly plugs into the gpio and can be powered from any battery 9-12 V + add scripts that shutdown the pi in case of a power outage.
>>54064859
http://www.piups.net/
>>54064565
Yes it is, as long you are not newcomer in Linux it will work.
>4-5 tabs? Depend if you open like YouTube or fucking heavy Web at the same time. But, for wiki or forum, or 4chan it will be fine.
You can but by the time you have a working pi you could have easily bought a 2nd hand van thinkpad, hp sff or optiplex.
Remember that the pi needs a Decent psu a case if you dont want risk of shortcircuit, a high quality SD card (since you use it as a pc). Starter sets are around 80 dollars.
Dont get me wrong, the pi is very nice but as a personal computer it is kinda underwhelming.
>>54064982
I did some research, fuck me. It requires a 2.5A adapter, and a usb cable capable of it. I can't even find one site selling online a 2.5amp adapter
>>54064504
>To summarize; can Pi replace an ordinary p.c for casual use
Yeah, if you don't mind slow I/O and abysmally slow web browsing.
>>54064859
That shit ain't even available in my country!
>>54065094
So a 200$ laptop is better than PI in the long run?
>>54065112
Definitely.
>>54064982
I habe a pi running as a data logging Machine + webserver to access the data ( Temperature + humidity) and it's running since 212 days. I only use some normie-tier microSD csrd (16GB). AND i usw an UPS. So -> kek
>>54064764
I can yank the cable of my PC and still the ssd won't go corrupt. I can yank the battery of my Phone and still the EVO sd won't go corrupt. It's shit like these that piss me off; all those YouTube videos and reviews of Pi being great but hide all the nasty stuff!
>>54065125
I ev me luv can't balow pi meh 2
That's what you sound like retard!
>>54065133
You probably just were lucky!
Also, the SD card only gets corrupted if you cut the power while writing in it is performed. The pi won't suffer if there's no write access Ehen you cut the power.
>>54065150
Even when you load a webpage, something gets written. Why doesn't the Pi site mention these cradles?
I just put in an request to cancel my order from Amazon.
>>54065147
Wud?
Studpid autocirrecting phone keyboard corrects some words to german, fuck this shit
>>54065162
There is no such word as 'Habe'!
Ain't no autocorrect gonna do that.
>>54065156
There are some guides which tell you to use a ramfs for logging and reduce write access to the SD car.
>>54065169
"haben" = to have, conjugated
"Ich habe" = I have
>>54065175
Yeah.... I am gonna hold off on the purchase of Pi for the time being!
>>54065192
Banana pi (s-ata harddrive)?
>>54065068
This is OK:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Samsung-Galaxy-S5-S6-Edge-2-Pin-2A-Mains-Charger-USB-Cable-EP-TA20EWE-/141781076720?hash=item2102cf8af0:g:f9UAAOSwiLdWAA0n
Go get it. I have the same and it works perfectly!
>>54065188
Ich wiel, mien negger!
You are not making Sinn (=sense)!
>>54065205
No hablo British mate!
>>54065205
>12$ + The cost of Pi
The cost has already started piling up!
What's a good budget computer that can run Linux and is strong enough for shitposting and programming?
>>54065265
https://thepihut.com/collections/raspberry-pi-accessories/products/micro-usb-power-supply-for-the-raspberry-pi
>>54064565
India? Pi3 is expensive here. I will get one if the price drops further.
>>54065322
Same Shit, o.p here, ordered from Amazon for 3.5k(rupees), saw reviews on how it's 1.4k more expensive than the 35$ benchmark. Now put in a request, hopefully, it'll get cancelled!
There are probably better SBC for this kind of use.
Pi isn't the cheapest.
But it will work and is cheap.
>>54065068
As long as it can put out 2.5A it's fine.
You can also get a higher A one or 2A works too probably.
>>54065335
Damn,I have hp and toshiba laptops, and they can't run ubuntu or any other variants of linux. I think Pi3 isn't powerful enough for day to day computing, I need those general input output pins for some reason, this is why I'm considering getting it.
>>54065341
Beagle Bone, C1+ to name a few. Pi is only living on it's legacy as of now. It was one of the first and now the must famous, but seriously there are better one's out there that do more and run full blown 32bit os' instead of ARMS
Couldn't you just get 2nd hand cheap PC parts?
>>54065413
Do you really need a full-blown x86 OS for the kind of hobbyist projects Pi is really meant for?
>>54065447
I am slamming my head in the wall as of now and hoping Amazon cancels my order and refunds me as soon as possible.
Stupid mistake, now that I delve into the text based reviews instead of videos, I see pie renders webpages 3times slower than a normal 2gig 32bit o.s.
>>54065469
>More Power doesn't hurt!
But you sure as hell don't want a snail like Pi right out of the box.
>>54065547
>it renders mah pages is 3 seconds instead of 1
>completely unusable! and to think they want $35 for this shit!
>>54065547
Can't you just an Intel nuc?starts at 10k rupees.
>>54065651
Is there even any resale value to Pi's?
>>54065694
FML, hearing about this now! -_-
>>54065703
You would be obviously better off if you killed yourself.
>>54064504
Maybe on wayland. I tried to use rpi2 as everyday computer, it was terribly slow on x11, even with something as lightweight as i3. It needs graphics acceleration, and x11 doesn't have any accelerated videocore driver.
>>54065837
What's the easiest and quickest way?
get a pine64
faster, cheaper, built in support for ups
>>54065859
Is Pi 3 gonna be any radical change considering it's got a 64bit SOC?
Or will just be fast but miserably slow compared to entry level 32bit systems?
>>54065966
I don't think so. Rpi2 was kinda usable, even in x11. Slow, annoying, barely usable, but not even nearly as fast as old c2d laptop. Wayland+chromium with gpu accelerated webpage composing could make it perfectly fine, but i have no idea if this gpu acceleration is even possible on anything other than x86.
>>54066051
Better to spend some more money and get something decent or build one yourself? Cause every full desktop site in recent time uses gpu accleration unless it's some Chechen site from the 90's. I'd bet browsing/scrolling Facebook lags like hell?
>>54066104
It's not just about lagging in scroll - websites like full html5 google mail are simply too slow to be used without urge to break something, new mail window loads ten seconds, shit like that - and same with facebook. So yeah, i doubt it's a good idea to use rpi as a daily computer, and it's definitely better to build something x86 (or even use older gutted laptop mobo as a computer. Make cool case and it should be super compact and low-power).
>>54064504
No, it's not. You can get an old C2D for same money and it's much better suited for everyday tasks because of >>54065859
I did some research and I came across with this. What do you think /g/ ? Could it be practical or just a dumb meme? https://learn.adafruit.com/mini-raspberry-pi-handheld-notebook-palmtop/overview
>>54066179
I forgot to say that It would be connected to an external monitor/keyboard most of the time
It's very usable, provided you use the lightest but good browser and use NoScript (Midori is a good choice, Firefox is too heavy even with NoScript) and you stay away from Raspbian because Debian is garbage as always.
I was able to run glxgears averaging at 150FPS (111FPS with compton) on the Arch Linux ARM. So that says something about the graphics.
Movies are not a problem at all, omxplayer can play FHD videos at 60FPS just fine. I frequently streams from Twitch at Source quality just fine.
>pic related
>>54066179
>>54066194
Then why have a laptop like form factor and screen if you're gonna use it with a external keyboard and monitor?
>>54066179
>palmtop
>this thickness
>this pathetic display
>this awkward keyboard
>this moment when you realize any android smartphone can pull off full-blown linux better that this thing
>>54066213
Because it would be nice to use SSH or to edit text on the go
>>54066104
Just disable JavaScript and enjoy a smoother browsing experience.
>>54065966
The Pi 3, sadly runs on 32-bit Linux and seems like there's no plans to switch to full 64-bit Linux anytime soon.
>>54065696
The fanboys are dying for the Zeros.
The point is that it's only $35 USD and don't, ever expect anything out of it. It's worth it if you have spare monitor, mouse and keyboard. All the other parts made for it are hugely overpriced, IMO. Probably because there's only very low demand for it and they still produce them.
>>54066256
>On the go?
Android can do that, without making you look like a dork!
>>54066291
But you can't have a home folder on a virtual machine on your phone, Can you? If you connect the phone to a PC via USB can you exchange files directly or will you need to deposit them on the android dedicated folder for Linux?
Also I recall hearing that there is no sudo on emulated Linux for Android.
>>54066332
>Also I recall hearing that there is no sudo on emulated Linux for Android.
what
what kind of emulated linux are you talking about? there is no emulated linux unless you'll set up qemu machine or something
>no sudo
entire concept of rooting is about creating su in your device
>>54065125
I never said it couldn't be done. I only said you can get a better experience for the same amount of money which is a fact.
>>54065401
Get an arduino, or some other lrototypung board. Perhaps maybe just an IC if you're feeling adventurous.
you are probably better off with a 2006-2008 era laptop with dual core x86 CPU, considering all the addons listed here, will cost around the same
>>54064504
>watching movies
unless shit resolution with shit quality just forget about that
>browsing
yes, if you disable javascript or never have more than 2 tabs open (because redraws)
>chrome
chrome has an ARM version?
>pdf reader
yes
>libreoffice
yes
>all of them at once
no
Don't be surprised when you find out your favorite programs aren't available because ARM
>>54066640
Wish someone like you was the first to comment on this thread, than I wouldn't have ordered it in the first place. Now, I'm hoping cancellation on Amazon goes through!
>>54066204
>rpi3 can handle 1080p@60fps just fine
>>54067054
this is fact, omxplayer is videocore-accelerated and can run videos properly.
>>54067054
my rpi1b can play 1080p60 as well, why wouldn't the 3 also?
>>54065068
Get a tablet power brick.I can guarantee, 9 times out of 10, it is rated at 2.5A
>>54065112
A 70 bucks pc stick is better than Pi in the long run
>>54066495
Saw my senpai made a working shitposting machine with nothing more than a breadboard, bunch of ICs and touchscreen module
How the fuck he did that I will never know.I could barely make a working calculator (that can't even substracts accurately) with the same thing
>>54064504
Why buy a toy when you can build a perfectly good x86-64 Celeron N3050-based computer for under $200?
Full gigabit-per-second NIC, USB 3.0 support, 4k playback, SATA3 ports, PCIe 1x for expansion, and up to 16GB of RAM.
>>54067054
>>54067091
Yes, indeed it can.
>>54066640
It can play 1080p videos just fine.
On the Pi 3, I can have 6-7 tabs just fine. Of course, with JS script disabled. Most website will work just fine without JS, if they don't, the web developer should be fired.
Chromium opens up and immediately crashes afterwards, I don't know why. Tested on ALARM and Raspbian. Probably only works on Chrome/Chromium OS.
>>54066685
See
>>54066204
Wish you'd read through every single post instead of crying and resenting yourself. But I'm not going to stop you, because you seems like you don't know anything at all.
>>54066517
I do agree with this, however. But hey, at least it's usable provided that you already have spare peripherals.
I have a Raspberry Pi B+ running openelec running films from a USB external hard disk playing 1080p @ 60fps just fine.
In my room I have a raspberry pi 3 that runs as a low power desktop on a HDMI 22" 1920x1080 monitor no problem with an 64GB class 10 SD card, a keyboard, mouse and external hard disk no problem at all. It plays all videos fine in MPV or omxplayer a the way up to 1080p @ 60fps, I play emulator games, use it as a web server and torrent server and it gets left on 24/7. I use midori with scripting turned off and 80% of websites I use run okay. I use RSS feeds to update me constantly on new updates and when it comes to YouTube videos, etc I browse it on midori, then copy to URL and download it using YouTube-dl and play it using MPV. I also use it for emails, ftp server as well.
Do you need to make some adjustments? Sure, a few, but does it run okay as a desktop? Fuck yeah. Everything I wanted out of Linux so far (with a restrictions) has worked perfectly. Oh I also use it to do my university work in libre office and convert it to PDF to upload it/print it.
Hope this helped.
>>54067729
*a few restrictions
Sorry
>>54067729
How's mpv treating you? Does vo=rpi and hwdec=rpi really works? I'm not able to test it since I'm using Arch and the experimental OpenGL driver doesn't work properly.
It is funny that I could get 150FPS on glxgears without the driver on Arch and 56FPS with the driver on Raspbian. I think I'm definitely missing something here.
>>54067353
So to get an Adapter of 2.5A, you're suggesting that I buy a Fuckin Tablet?
>>54067765
Honestly I had no idea those arguments existed. The vo=rpi doesn't seem to work and honestly, it looks like it is still software decoding. However, it works fine and no stuttering or lag.
Apparently Linux 4.5 is shipping with hardware acceleration for graphics for the raspberry pi. Not sure if it helps, but I'm using Ubuntu Mate and it works great and the updates are really improving it. I've had no corruptions or anything (the power cord has been pulled out a few times with shutting down properly and it just keeps going). The WiFi can be a little patchy, so I gave up and went for Ethernet. It works fine with very little slow down despite the external hard disk, USB speakers, mouse and keyboard plugged in all the time. VPN works great, but I had to use the terminal I instead of the network GUI manager but who gives a shit and torrents are running at a good, consistent speed.
>>54064504
You're supposed to drive cars, you idiot
>>54067990
I would imagine in a years time there will be a hardware accelerated browser, etc and everything will work fine.
As I said, it works great. You have to make some adjustments to your work flow and what not sure, but it's a different CPU architecture, low power and just works for like 95% of Linux software.
>>54068036
Can't even schedule a cron job, do you expect me to make and drive automated cars using a Pi?
>>54065133
install gentoo
I just want a palm sized computer to felate myself over my minimalist setup.
>>54066215
this picture is of massive slut woman
>>54065211
Deutsch, Neger, kannste es?
>>54067983
A tablet power brick you fucking moron
>>54064504
Its shit 2bqh. At least get one of the better chinese clones
>>54067596
For 200$ you can just a laptop
>>54068172
Nigga, that cost 2/3 the price of a Pi 3
Still a stupid suggestion!
>>54068129
hat Ihre Mutter Sie in Hitlers Schlag verlassen als schwarzer Jude in seine behaarte Kolonie zu arbeiten?
>>54068398
The fuck you're talking about. Just go to aliexpress and find one. Shit cost less than 10 bucks
>>54068202
None of them have a good support like the Pi. They're all like "buy and die".
>>54066278
What? Run it headless. Having a silent computer to serve me files from my external hard drive and hold backup.data is pretty great since I won't have anything like a NAS setup anytime soon.
>>54068720
No alieexprees in my country nigger, I'm in India.
>>54069054
>What? Run it headless. Having a silent computer to serve me files from my external hard drive and hold backup.data is pretty great since I won't have anything like a NAS setup anytime soon.
How does one set up a Nas server in Pi?
I am interested in setting up Pi so that it can distributed/stream the contents(movies, music) of my External H.D.D over my home wifi network.
So that I can sleep in my bed and stream a movie on my phone while Pi is in the closet.
What is this type of server called? Plex? Media, xmbc? Web server?
And How do I get it running?
>>54069079
Oh good, I just needed some microsoft tech support. How does one properly shut down win10 so it doesn't attempt to fuck you over with their pathetic "fast boot" "technology"?
>>54069135
Have you tried restarting?
>>54069150
>shutdown
>try restarting
T-thanks indian anon
>>54069127
Here is my setup: the RPi is tied into the router's box and the router is taped to the outside so it is one unit. I cut out spaces for all Pi ports.
I have a full Apache server running with a lite version of mysql and several php packages. Plex, samba, owncloud, and squirrelmail as well as a copy of wikipedia are planned but I have no idea if the pi can handle streaming. Right now all I have is ownCloud and Wikipedia.
I am not a networking person. In fact I have almost no idea what does what in terms of php and mysql etc.
However, it took me less than a couple of hours to have all of my data and whatever other service I want available from anywhere outside of my house.
If you start lurking home server threads you will see some really cool stuff people can do. It is one of the funnest things I have ever been in the process of learning.
>>54069079
I guess you're too thick to find stuff online, so in the spirit of friendship, tolerance and understanding, I will offer you one last bit of advice:
Do the needful
>>54069252
At least tell me where to start or any pointers or even what the server your running is called? i.e the type?
And what type of charger/adapter are you using? All I can find is 2.1Amp ones while the Pi3 requires 2.5A minimum.
>>54067384
>PC stick
Unless it's run in Android or Linux, no. Too much botnet
>>54069307
Old samsung charger
>>54069276
<This?
>>54069322
What is the Ampere? Can a 2.1A adapter; power keyboard, usb dongle(3g modem), mouse and a external H.D.D?
>>54065156
Keep the boot partition on the sd card, move everything else to a connected USB drive or hdd. Problem solved.
You should be regularly imaging your drives anyway.
>>54069307
The "server" is apache2.
I got started with ownCloud. It works ootb and allowed me to do some critical yet primitive school work backups. Going through their documentation showed me step by step how to get the basics set up. From there all you need to do is plug in the other services to the building blocks you already have.installed
I have a question about raspberry pi.
Will any card microsdhc card work with it?
I am reading fuckton of thread where people are whining on Samsung evo plus because it is not working, on other thread they are whining on sandisk/patriot.
Are chances very high that my 32gb card will not work with raspbian?
>indians literally shitposting on /g/
>>54069348
>>54069307
Not that anon, but I brought this for my RPi 3:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Raspberry-Pi-Official-Universal-Supply/dp/B00MBH6XNS/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0EDDQ24QF39E0M8T1BET
It works perfectly and I chuck tons of shit at it and have lots of stuff plugged into it.
>>54069348
2.5A
>>54069387
Tell me how you set up your system?
I am thinking, the Pi3,
Evo+ 32GB sd
2.5A adapter
HDMI to VGA cable to start things going.
>>54069476
Runs Ubuntu Mate and has the following plugged in:
1. External USB 3.0 USB 500GB hard disk
2. USB keyboard
3. USB mouse
4. USB speakers
5. Ethernet RJ45
6. HDMI to DVI cable
It uses:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SanDisk-Ultra-64-GB-microSD-SDXC-Memory-Card-UHS-I-Class-10-SD-Adapter-up-to-8-/322067837369?hash=item4afcbd31b9:g:YgAAAOSwzgRWuGEu
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Raspberry-Pi-Official-Universal-Supply/dp/B00MBH6XNS/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0EDDQ24QF39E0M8T1BET
The Wifi can be a little patchy, but I expect that to improve as drivers, etc mature. Ubuntu Mate is running strong as hell and keeps improving.
As I said, video can be a bit patchy, but run it in omxplayer and you'll be fine. As for the browser, I use Midori with Javascript disabled by default and I enable on a website basis because of lack of hardware acceleration (this I expect to improve soon too). Youtube videos are downloaded using Youtube-dl and played with mpv or omxplayer
>>54065169
Yes there is you fucking mongol.
>>54065413
>Pi is only living on it's legacy as of now.
yeah, having a huge catalog of info and millions of people using and contributing is a negative.
> that do more and run full blown 32bit os' instead of ARMS
I don't think you know what any of this means.
>>54069561
I think I'm gonna follow your build, the only thing I can't find in my country is the power supply you specified.
>>54069561
>sandisk ultra (writing 20mbyte/s max)
>not sandisk extreme (writing 30mbyte/s max)
do you hate speed?
>>54069750
>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SanDisk-Ultra-64-GB-microSD-SDXC-Memory-Card-UHS-I-Class-10-SD-Adapter-up-to-8-/322067837369?hash=item4afcbd31b9:g:YgAAAOSwzgRWuGEu
I'm sure any would suffice.
>>54069788
My setup is fast and fine. Nothing lags and nothing hangs or pisses me off. I would imagine the SD card slot on the Pi is pretty limiting anyway so I doubt you'd even see the performance gains. Maybe if hardware acceleration kicks off properly and I start using it for more intensive tasks I will look into a faster card, but right now I'm very happy with it.
>>54069840
>I would imagine the SD card slot on the Pi is pretty limiting anyway so I doubt you'd even see the performance gains.
with the new sdhost-driver, pi3 can write ~30mbyte/s, unless you got a slow-ass sandisk ultra in there.
but be my guest.
>>54069941
>>54069941
Ah okay that's cool. Well if I'm ever looking for a new card or looking for more speed, I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
>>54065952
Be creative
GET A CHROMEBOOK OR IDEAPAD
