What does /g/ honestly think of Chromebooks?
wallpaper sauce?
>>54049818
botnet
Bought a Dell 11 inch to see what the fuss was about. Used it for a few days and stuck it back in it's box and in the cupboard. Useless. I just haven't got round to selling it yet as I'm in the process of renovating a flat and haven't had time.
>>54049818
Bought one, used it for a week, returned it. Complete trash.
>>54049818
Negative.
They're made in such a way it's impossible/very hard to get a proper OS running on them. The Chromebook 2 is a great example, you will need to use Crouton to get anything running and there's also problems with storage space.
Still more useful and less gimmicky than a Macbook.
>>54050337
>le rabid freetard sperging over apple
Macbooks can run all flavours of Linux and Windows. Many Linux programmers actually use a macbook with Debian/Fedora/Ubuntu/Whatever because of the keyboard.
Shit, they have shitty weak processors, tiny storage, and too little RAM. Worse is some of them use ARM processors *shudders*
>>54050354
Never seen a dev use a Mac of any kind. Only college """art""" students and hipsters. That and typing code or any kind of long text on a laptop keyboard sounds painful.
>>54050380
>Never seen a dev use a Mac of any kind
WHere is your god now?
>>54050380
You should google 'Linux Torvalds'
He used a Macbook air running Fedora for quite some time, though I think he switched to something else now.
>>54049818
I got one used for like $60 on ebay and just wanted it for school. Works out real nice but crouton is a must imo. Itnalso takes time to configure whatever flavor you choose witg crouton because some vital packages are going to be missing.
>>54050396
Yeah and Satya Nutella owns an iPhone. Doesn't mean it's the only device he owns.
>>54050427
>Yeah and Satya Nutella owns an iPhone. Doesn't mean it's the only device he owns.
Which means fuck all when the post which was replied to stated "never seen a dev use a mac of any kind".
Which is absolute bullshit. Fucking Linus used one and he praised Apple for "doing laptops right".
>>54050437
>and he praised Apple for "doing laptops right".
Only the air though.
>>54050466
>I have never seen any dev use a Mac, only fags and hipsters
becomes
>They may use it but it's not all they have so it doesn't matter
becomes
>HE ONLY LIKES THE AIR
Apple makes good laptops, and though OSX is nice you can run whatever you feel like on them. I don't even have a macbook but if I could afford one I'd buy one.
>>54049818
Wasted potential
Remix OS is probably the closest to ChromeOS being done right.
Also ruined by this standard
>>54049818
great if all you're doing is browsing the web or basic productivity work, shit for anything else
perfect for most people, in other words
dirt cheap, too
>>54050354
Uh, the macbook keyboard is pure shit.
>>54050527
Compared to the early 2000 thinkpad keyboard maybe, compared to anything else it feels a lot better.
>>54050488
I could accept everything on that pic except the lack of a superkey and having to press ctrl+search to activate caps lock
>>54050547
>this turd is better because it's polished
>>54050571
Sorry but what the fuck is your point?
I have an HP Elitebook and a friend of mine a Macbook pro. His keyboard has better feedback and types better in general.
>>54050403
You mean Linus?
>>54050584
My point is obvious to anybody that has eyes and can read. Shit is shit, it hardly matters if it's better than slightly more putrid shit.
>>54050597
Ok so what exactly is not shit according to you?
And where does this anal fixation come from?
>>54050604
Anything not chicklet.
>>54050614
So, like I said, the only thing better are early-2000 thinkpad keyboards.
My college has them and they are shit. It's all on a cloud and you can't even run programs unless they are on the google store or whatever they use. Then again, my college could have just heavily modified the OS. The machines themselves are alright, except they aren't that powerful.
It's basically a tablet with a keyboard for me, I wouldn't use it for any real work other than writing emails and doing an odd document on Google Docs.
>>54050645
No.
>>54050396
He said a dev, I only see an ass hole with anger issues.
>>54050657
What laptop being sold right now has a non-chiclet keyboard?
I have a couple, and they work great for what they are. I think a lot of the issues come people trying to use them for something they were not intended for. If you want a notebook that runs linux flawlessly, by something else. I moved the majority of my dev work to the cloud ( cloud9, codeanywhere, etc) so all I need to access my work is a internet connection and a browser, for this they can't be beat.
They're absolute garbage tier abominations.
There even used to be one with an ARM processor, 16 GB NAND, 11.3" screen and that shit was like $1000. Oh and of course NEARLY AS THIN AS MACBOOK AIR KEK. Don't know if it was Acer or Samsung or Toshiba's fault.
Nothing but trash.
Cheap, reliable, silent, cool and useful for basic stuff.
Linux is fairly easy to install on them, and in developer mode in the b channel you can do all sorts of stuff with ChromeOS
Still botnet, but still better than Windows.
Also the only thing Acer is good at making.
>>54050671
cheapest lenovo
![LENOVO-IdeaPad-G50-80-(80EF0386NX)[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/Pp8CmKp.png "LENOVO-IdeaPad-G50-80-(80EF0386NX)[1].png")
>>54050715
this one?
useless piece of shit
>>54050715
>cheapest anything
Every single laptop under $700-900, what OEMs like to call "media laptop" is manufactured on the same factory using only slightly different components.
Go with Apple if you want a decent keyboard or with old Thinkpads (pre redisign) like these >>54050645
>>54050556
Search is superkey
Used one for a semester, they are not bad, but they have a lot of limitations and after a year some keys stopped working
>>54050487
Implying
>>54050645
>pay 25 000 $ a year
>dinosaur laptop
the part I didn't understand was >pay 25k a year
oh wait
>says the socialist free education finfag
kek
>>54049884
Its the default chromeos swanky wallpaper
>>54049818
I actually own pic related. For $380 (laptop + 128gb SSD) you get a 13" with 1080p IPS screen and like 6-8 hours battery. Swap the storage and peel off the BIOS write disable sticker and you have an extremely functional, light, linux laptop.
>>54050328
>impossible/very hard
>have to unscrew one whole screw and peel off a sticker
>>54049818
Bought one for my grandma, she likes it a lot
![taxrevenueaspctofgdplabeled[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/3SG8CSx.png "taxrevenueaspctofgdplabeled[1].png")
>>54050859
>finland
>"free education"
You realize education has to be paid for, one way or another, right?
Hence Finland has fucking government monopoly stores for alcohol.
I own a c720 and I absolutely love it. I don't do any productive work on it though, just browse the Internet and maybe work on some documents from time to time.
>>54050328
>lying this obviously
I mean, at least be subtle about it, sheesh.
>>54050981
>You realize education has to be paid for, one way or another, right?
of course
its our inside meme
because of the taxes I never buy any electronics because I could buy it from amazon much cheaper
I got a broken one on Craigslist for $50, hard drive was dead. Mailed it back in and got it fixed. It's very underpowered, to the point there crouton is unusable. It's a great little YouTube machine though. Sometimes I set it to videos of birds and leave it out for the cats.
>>54051037
what exactly is not true?
>>54051132
>impossible
>very hard
>to get a proper os
>problems with storage space
Chromebooks are ONLY notoriously underpowered, exactly as one would expect from a 150$-250$ laptop.
And seriously, getting a Chromebook into dev mode and installing GNU tools is easier than getting into lenovo BIOS/uefi setup.
>>54051175
Like I said, the Toshiba Chromebook 2 CAN NOT run GNU/Linux without Crouton. The storage space problem is real too since they have soldered internal memory of merely a few gigabytes so you will need to use a slow as fuck SD card for extra storage.
>>54050328
>They're made in such a way it's impossible/very hard to get a proper OS running on them
why the fuck would you get a chromebook in the first place
I fucking love mine:
$350 retail, instead I got it for free with my Air Miles.
Like ten hours of battery life, light, and with probably the best laptop keyboard I've ever used.
Install crouton and hot key between ChromeOS and Xubuntu; ChromeOS when I'm just messing around, Xubuntu for programming.
10/10, would Chromebook again.
>>54051204
>Like I said, the Toshiba Chromebook 2 CAN NOT run GNU/Linux without Crouton.
There's a SeaBIOS build for it that's fully Windows 10 compatible, let alone Linux.
Personally, I own Dell's 13 inch Chromebook because the shit's built well, has great battery life, and uses standard 42mm m.2 SSDs. Just waiting for a finished SeaBIOS build with backlight and trackpad support. In the meantime I've got a limited Legacy Boot enabled that works for Gallium OS and surprisingly Alpine Linux.
>>54050380
>Never seen a dev use a Mac of any kind.
You didn't need to confirm to us how unemployed you are. It's certainly alright if you've never actually seen a real development department.
>>54051204
>the Toshiba Chromebook 2 cannot run gnu/Linux without GNU.
I mean, I get your meaning, but your "must be able to use my distro's installer and my own special snowflake kernel that only contains hardware support for stuff I'm not even running" requirement is an unnecessary restriction for everything save the sole case where you need to use Cisco anyconnect, and only for a little while longer at that. It's also still easier than updating the ram in a macbook
I understand the complaint about the sd card, but that can be easily mitigated with an external HDD or SSD and luks for all your "extra storage" needs.
>>54050380
Yet again I shall explain: Mac = certified UNIX + quality IDE's + professional creative software. Therefor Mac is the go-to platform for any non-windows dev who needs photoshop or illustrator or cubase or any high quality creative software package
>>54049818
thingken of getting one for fapping hentai on the bathroom. but not sure if get that or a cheap wherever-laptop
>>54049818
Good hardware.
Really limited by the OS.
>>54050488
i wonder if their intent is to upgrade all chromebooks with the next iteration of android which sorta has a window manager
>>54051204
not true anon. youre wrong/
>>54049818
can i play my 2hu on these things
>>54051204
For what it's worth, I moved my crouton chroots over to first a 64gb micro smSD, and secondly a low profile 32GB USB 3.0 flash drive...
... I don't notice any appreciable difference, even when doing intensive tasks like loading up or working in Eclipse.
>>54049818
Neet idea, ok if you can stick linux on them and I wish all laptops had good keyboards rather then just old thinkpads. I need key travel.
>>54052265
I notice some slowness on my pixel with a few gigs of source and local repositories, but it's not enough to affect productivity.
What was really bad was trying to use docker on an SD card. That was a nightmare
>>54050396
People who are used to a unix command line. Also they probably get them for free. If I made laptops he would be on the list of people I just mail my product to for free in the hopes of it showing up when hes at some conference for that free advertising.
>>54051268
why not just xubuntu for everything?
>>54052367
because chromeos is actually good
thats like asking why not use bootcamp on a mac for everything?
>>54049818
perfect for normies to use as facebook machines and general browsing. You can even go as far as doing light office work too.
Depends on the model you have you could use crouton to run a distro and have a full fledged OS.
Got a Dell Chromebook 11 2015 on a discount from amazon last holidays for someone who wanted to browse the web only. It runs for 10 hours no problems, it's well built for something that was 160 bucks and the one using it is pretty happy with it. That model also is not shit, has a celeron with 4gbs of ram and 32gbs of storage.
If you want to spend that kinda of cash on a laptop go with a thinkpad, you can get one used near that price and you can run whatever you want in it. if you just want to browse the web and need great battery life, go with something similar to the one I told you.
>>54051962
Depends on the model. Some have full support for Windows, some even have full support for OS X now.
>>54050702
My Samsung Series 3 Chromebook had an ARM processor, and it was ~$150. Mind posting a link to that ?
>>54052721
If I use WINE on an ARM chromebook would that be good enough?
They're comfy, and some of then give you great bang for your buck.
They need full fucking Android app support tho.
>>54049818
Honestly?
>pic related
But really they are okay for what they are made for.
>>54054981
google should just give in and make these android laptops. they app support would be much better, and android supports windows and pointers now too
>>54049818
> Got a Dell Chromebook 13 a few months ago
> i3 8GB RAM shiddy 32 GB ssd
> popped out that ssd and threw in a 256gb ssd
> FUCK crouton, put straight up Debian testing
> XFCE
I love this laptop.
>>54054541
No.
>>54055139
when you use crouton, does that mean chrome os is running parallel to your linux? how resource-heavy is chrome os?
look cheap
feel cheap
perform cheap
>>54055209
Crouton basically chroots your existing chromeos install and throws another *NIX alongside it.
> now you have to update two parallel systems.
I had to use the Debian nonfree ISO on a USB to get wireless to play nice during install.
I followed the archlinux wiki instructions to change BIOS to boot direct without going into chromeos recovery mode. That took about 15 minutes to read and perform.
>>54055275
is the process of putting a linux distro on a chromebook straight forward? how's the hardware compatibility like touch pad and stuff? considering buying one to mess around with linux (xubuntu probably) cuz i really don't have much more free space on my macbook after putting windows 10 on it.
>>54050403
He switched to a Sony VAIO.
He fell for the super lightweight/small meme
>>54055315
I was going to with the latest xubuntu but for whatever reason the ISO wouldn't boot properly, i can't remember the error but it was an unrecoverable one. This happened with all the Ubuntu flavors for me.
I did the arch install with zero problems on it just to see but I prefer Debian.
I actually liked chromeos but the file xfer on smb sucks shit and video play... May as well been reenacting with puppets it was so bad.
Regarding Debian, everything worked oobob, touchpad, sound, gfx u name it except wireless (nonfree ISO) but that worked fine too.
>>54051048
>because of the taxes I never buy any electronics because I could buy it from amazon much cheaper
If I parse your superior school system's taught english correctly, you buy your electronics off amazon instead of local outlets, right? How exactly do you get things cheaper "because of taxes" abroad? You'll anyway pay your local VAT when you check out at amazon or at any major store, as is the law. Unless you're a vat exempt entity, and that I doubt.
If you buy your shit outside of EU, you'll anyway pay customs fees and vat when post office confiscates your shit till you pay up.
What am I missing?
they just werk
>>54050380
you need more exposure to people who actually build things
>>54050337
>>54049818
There really really really good for a tech illiterate parent.
It just werks, it's secure, it's easy to use, and it's fast enough for whatever they're using it for.
They are great! It's not for everyone but pretty much anyone who's tech-illiterate can use it. I got one for my cousin's birthday and she didn't complain. The only problem she had with it is was that sometimes it can be a bit slow, but really I like it. It's basically a giant iPod without a touch screen but with a keyboard, what's not to love? Plus it's cheaper than the iPod. Basically what >>54056200 said
I have the Toshiba 2 one
Pretty light, completely silent except for some coil whine when it's charging. The screen is pretty decent, 1080p IPS.
The storage is really small though. Mind that.
As for power, I don't know what the fuck people have against a low power laptop. It means that the battery will last longer, coupled with no fan and no HDD, the thing outlives anything else in my class by a goddamn landslide, and it can still do FEM almost as fast as anything for the practice exercises.
If you want to get rid of ChromeOS, you have to open it up carefully and cut a part of the radiator loose which acts as a hardware write protection.
>>54050261
Nice. The whole place or is it an updating the bathrooms/kitchen kind of deal?
>>54050859
>>54050981
>>54051048
>>54055530
TAKE YOUR FUCKING POLITICS TO THE POL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my god. my god. my god . mygod my god mygod my god it's okay it's okay its ok
>>54049818
No cuz muh gay men.
>>54056309
>without a touch screen but with a keyboard
say that to my acer c720p! it has a touch screen as well
>>54049818
>most Chromebooks
Cheap trash with useless OS but good trackpads and decent battery life.
>Pixel
Overpriced trash with useless OS but good trackpad and aspect ratio.
They might become interesting when Google merges Chrome OS with Android and it gets actual software like Office and PS. If they stick to 16:10 screens but lower their price according to capabilities, they might become the only non-Apple laptops worth buying.
>>54050981
>has fucking government monopoly stores for alcohol.
Sounds good. Should be expanded to cigarette, weed and all other drugs. Win-win for everybody.
Isn't Chrome OS less functional than Android? Why not just put Android on them?
>>54059150
Because Android is a mess. Chrome OS is less functional but does the things it does good from what I heard.
>>54049818
Honestly thought that was a MacBook before I saw the caption
>>54049818
MAXIMUM botnet.
They literally force you to use all their cloud-based "services" because it has barely anything on its own.
I love my C720 I put a upgraded SSD in it and arch and its fast as shit i use it as my fulltime machine
>>54049818
They'd have potential if they came with more than 32GB storage
