How does it feel knowing that TI won and HP literally discontinued their calculator divsion in 2015?
Why don't you own the best programmable engineering calculator ever made while it's still cheap?
>tfw hp 50g price will skyrocket because of scalpers just like the discontinued hp 16c
>TI and their mediocre expensive calculators will continue to hold a stranglehold on the education market for all time
>>54035825
Because calculators are absolutely useless in 2016.
>>54035825
>How does it feel knowing that TI won and HP literally discontinued their calculator divsion in 2015?
Terrible.
>Why don't you own the best programmable engineering calculator ever made while it's still cheap?
I do. I don't know if I'd call it the best though, previous HP calculators I feel were better.
>>54035861
Try going to college with that absolutely retarded assumption.
>yfw
>>54035906
I'm about to finish grad school (physics) and I haven't touched a calculator in years.
>>54035825
Who the fuck uses a shitty-ass graphing calculator outside of being forced to in a retarded education setting?
Look at that pathetic resolution. A fucking nokia from 2004 can do better.
And fuck TI. The monopoly-having pieces of trash need to be sued to death.
>>54035906
Assuming he's majoring in something that requires one
I don't remember the last time I used a calculator that wasn't on my phone. Shit these days I just let wolfram or even google do it for me.
>>54035919
>"it's 2016!!"
>"everyone skips undergrad school and goes right into grad school these days!!"
You can just use your smartphone to all the fancy shit but i'm still using my old ti voyage 200. <3
>>54035924
Nobody gives a fuck about resolution. It's a fucking calculator, you're looking at fucking numbers, it doesn't matter.
If you're that concerned with it then go and waste money on some shit tier modern TI with a colored display.
Graphing calculator fags are the worst, especially HP guys.
You people are worse than haskell tards.
Can I use these for bitwise calculations?
my $10 calculator can't display binary numbers larger than 511 and doesn't support bitshifts
I will admit, nothing gives off the feeling of "Im gonna do some math" more than pulling out your calculator, its just not the same with a phone. I do think HP's are better but I really dont give a fuck. I will say its gotten kind of ridiculous with certain classes having required calculators though, I've had to use 3 different ones in a semester because of this
>>54035981
Even in undergrad school I didn't use calculators. They were rarely allowed in any exams and if they were, only very simple ones were allowed which you didn't really need anyway as the calculations were simple enough to do in your head (usually answers like 2 + sqrt(348/113) or whatever were legit as well, so it didn't matter)
>>54035825
How does TI manage to get away with charging $200 for an outdated piece of shit calculator that can't keep up with a $50 used phone in terms of hardware?
Is the education system this retarded?
>>54036097
>Is the education system this retarded?
Basically. In my country graphical calculators are not allowed in school or university. The only calculators that are allowed cost like 10 bucks.
tfw you will never need a calculator in 'engineering' and everyone uses a cas or fortran
>>54036087
>calculations were simple enough to do in your head
I've only ever experienced that in calculus, where we weren't allowed calculators...but we could use them for physics where the calculations definitely weren't simple enough to do in your head unless you left the answers unsimplified.
When did you go to school? I had to do online homework that only accepted fully simplified answers.
>>54036087
this
cant everything that graphing calculators can do be figured out algebraically fairly quickly? I mostly only took babby math courses because I had to
>>54036097
>teachers and educators get "free training" aka 'sales pitched' to use only TI
>textbook writers and teachers only provide instructions for TI calculators
>higher level standardized tests only accept specific TI calculators if at all
with that artificial demand, they would get nothing from lowering their prices since they will always have new students buying calculators regardless of price
the only alternatives (hp and casio) price theirs at 50 bucks because nobody even knows that alternatives exist
>>54036179
Shit's retarded, and I don't know how they haven't been shut down by the government yet.
>>54036209
Because they do the same to the government except their selling them radar systems, military computers and semiconductors. I'd be surprised if these calculators even made up 1% of their revenue.
>>54036168
>When did you go to school?
Since 2011
>I had to do online homework that only accepted fully simplified answers.
At my university we actually have people who look at your homework individually.
>but we could use them for physics where the calculations definitely weren't simple enough to do in your head unless you left the answers unsimplified.
Nobody really cares about the numerical answer in exams. That last step is usually by far the least interesting one and nobody doubts that you can use a calculator. We had of course some exercises where a you needed to calculate stuff, but I'd rather use my computer for that, not a calculator.
get a casio FX9750GII and upgrade the firmware to the next model up
>>54036073
help
Who cares? We weren't allowed to use programmable calculators in university so I have just been using this for 8 years now, still using it at work.
If you need to do more complex calculation you use a proper computer.
Those calculators could be made for less than $50 these days and have a fully fledged operating system
I'm going into comp eng this year and as far as I know I have no limit on what kind of calculator to use so what do I buy
>>54036592
research HP calculators....you probably will not need a graphing calculator, so I would just get a scientific because they are smaller and just easier to carry around
you will not regret getting an RPN calculator, I can tell you that much
>>54036582
Nigga, i can guarantee you right now that the entire cost for TI to ship one of their $200 calcs and have it on a shelf is less than $5.
You can buy a $19 android/windows phone right now with over 100x the processing power of a TI-84+
>>54035825
>How does it feel knowing that TI won
Lovely. The better product ALWAYS wins.
I don't really need any fancy graphing features, but I'd like some low-powered computer to write software for and I read somewhere that hp calculators have a GCC compiler.
Should I go for it?
>>54036699
>TI calculator costs $120 new
>still has a display that looks like an original gameboy from the 90's
Why is this allowed?
>all those fags who don't even into Electrical Engineering
Try solving a circuit matrix or anything related to electronics without one.
jej
I have a tablet with MATLAB installed. Why the fuck would I need a calculator?
>>54036751
The battery also lasts years and years.
Your backlit FULL COLOR display lasts only hours.
With a HP 50G, Prime, 16 C, three-cell 12 C, 15 C, 17Bii+ and a 30 b nothing can stop me.
>>54036770
>tablet
Are you actively trying to not be taken serious?
>>54036772
>battery
Why not just have a rechargeable battery like every other device?
>mfw the 50g can't handle the calculations I need to do
>mfw people actually fail the subject because they make some mistake and only notice after the long calculation time
>>54036808
because AAs are cheap and disposable
the alternative is a device with an internal rechargeable battery that is expensive and effectively renders the device disposable
>>54036838
example?
>>54036075
>be math major
>two classes require ti 83
>two classes require ti 89
>not allowed to use other in either class
>already had ti 84+ from classes that required it from last semester
>>54036863
>expensive
>Literally $3
>>54036237
So TI is the IBM of our generation?
>>54036903
top kek
>>54035825
holy shit op you jst made my day, i bought a 50g by the end of 2014
>Spending all day in high school programming in BASIC
Good times.
>>54035981
I did an exchange year at EPFL and there was no need for calculators there, everything in physics was attacked from a math perspective pretty much. Solid State Physics was an exception but that's understandable.
>>54036532
we still are not allowed to use graphing calculators in most EE lectures.
>>54036179
>>54035825
In France it's 50/50 for TI and Casio
Didn't even know HP made calculators though
>>54035919
Hey I took physics too and I know that you're full of shit
No graphing or programmable calculator was ever allowed in any one of the exams I took ever. MSc in Engineering.
If your exam requires a programmable or graphing calculator, guess what, your exam was shit, who wrote it was shit, and who graded it probably only looked at the final results and was therefore shit, and you paid eleventy thousand dollars for the privilege
>>54037412
Naw, we were allowed calculators for our freshman physics class exams, and each problem was graded extremely thoroughly.
>>54037409
>takes physics
>only one physics books
>>54035825
Feels bad man but I have my stash including a couple spare 50g's.
I also ordered a spare WP-34s yesterday.
>>54035878
>previous HP calculators I feel were better
While you might be able to argue that a couple points may have gone to the 67, 41, etc. the 48 series is really the most usable and extensible of all the HP calcs and the 50g is its ultimate evolution.
Yeah I miss the big enter key and the classic rocking buttons too but other than that the 50g is better.
>>54036903
Smells like autism
>>54036582
The HP-50g has a fully fledged operating system.
For math.
does 50g mean it costs 50 gold?
>>54037680
>hurr calculus isn't used in physics
You need to be 18 to post senpai.
50g gives you:
>MetaKernel, originally developed by a hacker later hired by HP
>RPL programming environment
>System RPL programming environment
>Saturn microprocessor assembly language development environment
>ARM assembly language development environment
>Tetris built to factory ROM
TI gives you:
>ever-incresing efforts to stop you from actually programming your device usefully
>'brogramming'
>>54037869
Can I compile C code to run on it?
>>54035825
>2016
>still getting jewed by corporations with a monopoly in the school system
tippy top kekky kek
rate my collection /g/
>>54037903
Sure, HPGCC has existed for a long long time.
>>54037996
You really need a classic HP of one kind or another though anon, to go with those classic Casios.
The 28c/s is from that same era.
>>54038059
Can't go wrong with a good 'ol 32SII or 15C
>>54038094
I have only the original 32s in my collection. Still looking for a 42s.
>>54035906
college is a scam
>>54038114
I guess I'm used to referring to the 32SII because It's what I grew up with. The original is just as good.
I have been lusting after the 42S for years.
>>54035927
Sauce on screenshot?
>>54038041
does that compile to binaries or some weird byte-code intermediary?
why do i have to install ARM toolkit on the calculator?
>>54037869
why do i want to program on my calculator?
>>54037253
They made all the best ones anon.
This one came out in the 60's. It had:
>over a thousand registers / steps when expanded
>could write and read magnetic cards programmatically so program size was theoretically unlimited
>external large-screen display option
>function plotting on HP plotter
>read punch cards or scantron sheets
>core memory so if the machine loses power memory stays intact and running programs will even resume without error when power is restored
>multiple registers (stack registers) available onscreen at once
In the days when the only computers widely available were extremely expensive, fiddly, and difficult to schedule time on, this machine would sit on your desk just quietly waiting for input, and it would provide you with your answers much sooner than you'd get them back from the mainframe for many applications.
There were other decent electronic calculators but HP really nailed it with the 9100 and for decades they were the only choice in science, math, and financial analysis.
>>54038230
Same reason you'd want to program on your computer.
>>54038277
no im pretty sure there isnt much i program on my computer that i would like to program on my calculator
>>54038217
I haven't played with it, RPL is enough for my taste.
99% of the programming on the 48 series revolves around user and system RPL. HPGCC is neat but virtually unused.
>>54038230
>why do i want to program on my calculator?
Why do you want to program on your computer?
>>54038294
He didn't say you do the same things, he said for the same reason.
>>54038315
well, typically when i program on the comp its to solve problems too big to solve.. for example with just a calculator. just really can't see when i would want to program anything on my calculator
>>54038305
Does this count as embedded programming?
Because I've been meaning to get into that.
>>54038367
Calculators are computers anon, and with RPL and / or RPN at least you can usually write a program by (mostly) punching the buttons you'd use to solve the problem manually.
The calculator is right there, always waiting to accept your input. It can solve many problems in an imperceptible time frame just like your computer. It has a proper numeric keyboard, runs for months or years on batteries, can be taken easily into the field, etc.
I know that land surveyors like HP because they can automate much of their work as well as control / gather data from the surveying instruments over the handy dandy serial port. The devices are rugged and reliable and serve in a thousand industries. The used prices keep going up too.
>>54036097
We have an entire department creating coursework for them to help out teachers. Plus we invented the calculator so to the victor go the spoils.
>make 100,000+ products used anywhere between cellphones to space satellites
>people only know your calculators
>>54038434
>land surveyors
huh, didnt think of that angle, wont ever be relevant in what ill be doing but can definitely see how it would be useful to have a sturdy pocket computer then
didnt really expect any non shit answer, you got me
>>54038403
I have always thought of pocket calculator programming as its own thing.
To me there are three kinds, keystroke programming (simplest, in HP's world similar to assembly more or less), RPL programming (HP 48 and onward), and BASIC machines like the TRS-80 pocket computer, the HP-71b, and other more brain damaged machines from Casio and TI.
The HP-71b was in many ways more powerful than the Apple ]['s of the day (more memory, faster CPU), but not as open for tinkering to the user.
>>54035825
OP why did you feel the need to add 'literally' to your post like anyone would have thought it was a metaphor? Why are you such an illiterate ape? Is it because if you don't add emphasis people won't post in your threads?
>>54038467
It's a racket is what it is, the HP products are objectively better and always have been except for the textbook integration you guys get by bribing the academic publishers.
Your calcs are geared toward testing and classroom use, that's great and everything and it makes a lot of money but your machines are shit compared to HP for grownup customers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mO_UyefM3Q
>tablet -> internet -> not solving the problems by yourself -> hurr, I'm such a NURRD -> The Big Bang Theory
No, I can't see why calculators are still in use.
>using a calculator in 2016
>>54038650
See: >>54038629
Your "everything in my smartphone" is a nice shibolleth.
>>54036073
>>54036491
The HP 50g includes a full programmer's calculator functionally. It's really nice. It can handle 64 bit words but if you're clever you can take advantage of the fact that it handles integers of unlimited length too (up to the device memory).
Also the HP 16c was made exclusively for programmers and other people doing bitwise operations. It can handle 64 bit words.
Additionally now there is the WP-34s which implements decimal128 and is a full programmer's calculator as well. However being an open-source user made firmware for a calculator that JUST went out of production it's going to be tough to get unless you buy one very soon. The one guy who mods the 30b for you and mods the keyboard / faceplate is blowing out his last machines now. It will handle 128 bit words.
So yes is the answer, yes indeed.
>>54038693
I must admit I bought i41cx.
Virtual extremely enhanced HP-41 clone with full CAS which is separate from, yet interacts with, the stack. Also you can access your GPS and other sensors from within the calculator programmatically among MANY OTHER NEW FEATURES. It's like a supercharged HP-41, fully compatible with the originals as far as programming goes, comes with an emulated printer which you can access from the CAS as well, comes with about 300 different ROMs built in including some unobtanium-IRL ones, etc.
It's kind of nice for certain applications, I use it as my GPS logger sometimes. If I could buy a hardware version of it with real buttons I'd cream my jeans.
>>54036532
i've been using a variant of this (fx-83ES) for the past 7 years and it's worked great. bout to finish my degree
i would be more tempted to buy a graphing calculator if the technology hadn't totally stagnated
>>54036532
>If you need to do more complex calculation
The HP-50g includes a CAS that is much closer to Mathematica or Maxima than the TI equivalent. It has over 800 built in functions useful to science and mathematics, an equation library of hundreds of equations useful across many scientific fields, a really nice periodic table, and these things all work together with the stack to help you solve problems with a minimum of fuss.
You can solve problems by pushing and popping data to the stack from say, the periodic table, popping the values into equations which leave their results on the stack, then using those values in a new equation, etc. It's contains basically a whole Schaum's guide with user enhancements.
Why bother to fire up Mathematica or whatever your poison is, when you have basically the same problem solving power in an always-ready format? It even has a proper numerical / mathematical keyboard.
>>54036667
Takes about an hour to get used to it and infix calculators seem ridiculous and idiotic after you do.
>RPN user: The calculator is my mathematical playground!
>TI/Casio tards: God damn it it's a pain in the ass to use my previous calculations and why is every different feature its own "mode" anyway?
>>54036714
Yes get a 50g while you can, $50 is cheap for a nice machine like this.
It even has a serial port and IR.
>>54038475
I wanted to add, that HP calculators were taken into space as backup flight computers on over one hundred missions. The HP-41 and later HP-48 series could land the space shuttle in case of a computer failure, and the HP-67 was used on board earlier flights to cross-check guidance computer results.
NASA space suits come with a special pocket made to hold an HP calculator. Not just "a calculator," and HP calculator.
>>54038970
>technology hadn't totally stagnated
What do you mean by this?
>>54039105
anon youre making me want to get a hp calculator despite knowing ill actually have no use for it
>>54036770
>tablet
lol. you are not in a 70s science fiction show.
>>54039138
>>54039134
Oh you'll find a use anon.
How about a micro-sized Swiss clone of a classic HP calculator done in brass or titanium?
>>54039211
pretty sexy desu, how does hps handle symbolic stuff? see its in there
>>54039245
oh nvm its just comparisons
>>54035906
When I studied engineering physics all calculators and slide rulers were forbidden during tests. And you had to prove your every calculation by hand. Yeah you don't need an advanced calculator. When you actually would eventually need one you will use Maple and/or Matlab.
>>54039254
Nice.
Keystroke programming is great.
However you should always use CORRECT to set the time because that will automatically calculate and set a new adjustment factor as well.
>>54039245
>how does hps handle symbolic stuff?
Depends on the calculator, the 50g has a full CAS and you can substantially alter how it behaves by setting various flags.
>>54036532
This is goat non graphing calc.
>>54039254
>>54039215
Astronaut stuff? :3
>>54039429
No TI calculator will do in space anon.
The guy who basically created IEEE floating point math, William Kahan, personally worked with HP to ensure that their math was as accurate as possible.
>>54037409
>giangianecoli
urgh
>>54039598
Sweeeeet! <3
>>54039399
Just no.
>>54039399
HAHAHA BTFO.
>>54039598
It makes me really sad to see how far HP has declined.
Bill Hewlett and Dave Packard are spinning in their fucking graves, I bet they wouldn't even want their names on the shit that "HP" produces today.
You can also use your HP-41 for evil.
>>54039820
I agree, HP is now known as Aligent and "HP" is a printer ink company.
I was hopeful when I saw the 35s but it looks like there are many firmware bugs and HP doesn't intend to fix them.
>>54039967
The original core business of HP is now Keysight, it got spun off from Agilent a year ago.
>>54037680
>>54039627
the photocopied book with black comb=young and freedman
>>54039983
Hopefully they will enter the calculator market!
>a man can dream
>>54040009
>Steve Jobs then considered HP one of the companies that he admired, regarding it among the handful of companies (Disney and Intel were the others) that were built “to last, not just to make money”.
Amazing how it took one woman (Carly Fiorina) a few years to destroy decades of hard work that Bill and Dave put in to create one of the greatest tech companies at the time.
>>54040046
Yeah.
Woz worked in the calculator division on several products including the HP-25, perhaps he told Jobs about the formerly great work environment they had.
I knew an older gent who worked at HP Corvallis in the older days and he loved it.
>>54040086
Funny world, a young Jobs phoned up Hewlett to get parts for a frequency counter he was building. Hewlett offered him a summer job.
>>54036532
this
after 4 years college in, never used anything else
>>54036179
HP's have always been more expensive than TI's
>>54040174
Worth it too.
>>54040099
Didn't know that actually.
At least we still have the 50g for now. Once it's gone HP's really throwing in the towel.
>>54035825
so whats the best one to get before its all going down?
preferably with a serial output maybe?
>>54035906
>going to college in 2016
Programming for the HP-48 series (including the 50g) is really easy and nice too.
You can use it somewhat like an earlier HP calculator, by defining a new command as some combination of simple key presses or pre-existing commands, or you can program it more fully by using its very extensive and extensible Forth-like language, RPL. Some people think it's like Lisp but to me it feels like Forth with some very vaguely LISP-y stuff nailed on.
Basically a new 'program' or 'function' or just 'command' can be as simple as a unit conversion, or as complicated as a Zelda-clone (yes there are many hundreds of games on the 48 onward) to an astronomical planetarium and so on. You can make graphical programs using the 'normal' user RPL or you can also take advantage of system RPL.
If that's not fast or direct enough you can program in the Saturn or ARM assembly languages onboard the device too, it includes a full environment for this. ARM assembly is incredibly frickin' fast.
Enjoy real RPN or RPL programming, not Casio or TI 'brogramming.'
>>54040462
TI works with assembly as well, and it's in BASIC so it just werks (which is what you would expect from a calculator)
>>54040282
50g, that's the one to get.
It has a serial port, IR for communications with an optional IR battery powered printer, the 82242b, SD slot, USB which also supplies power so you can change the batteries without losing your RAM, (also you can back up and restore files or the whole calculator state to / from SD of course), etc.
Great battery life even on Ni-MH rechargeable batteries (I use Eneloops in all my stuff) and always handy math friend and partner.
It has alarms that can either make sounds or optionally trigger the thing to wake up and execute program(s) and all kinds of neat stuff.
It's a real 'personal' computer. You can get it on the internet if you really want if you're obsessed with that idea, a package exists with tcp/ip.
>>54040499
Out, OUT!
Confiscate his calculator.
Pretty bad. I still love my 48GII and my fingers are hardwired to RPN.
I remember feeling pretty good in high school when they banned using TI-89s and not the 48GII which did all the things they banned the 89 for.
Do most of my calculations in octave these days, but its still pretty cool.
>>54040499
TI-BASIC forces you to do a lot of boilerplate just to make a quick, one off program. Instead of mucking around with it for a few minutes, you can start a program right on the command line, redo the steps you would to normally solve a problem (somewhat like keystroke programming) and then throw it on the stack. You can then manipulate numbers with your program right on the stack, by just running it, applying to every element of a list, or even running the program through another program. It feels "natural".
THAT's the beauty of RPL.
>>54040046
>Carly Fiorina
Also a republican candidate for 2016, now she endorses Cruz. Is there not any end to her fail, cancer and AIDS?
>>54035825
Any reason for someone not in math or engineering to have one of these?
>>54040612
You can start off without worrying about looping and conditionals etc. in literally minutes. You simply hit the <<>> key and punch in the steps and then either execute it or store it, and after you store it you can simply call it as a function in another program.
Then you can teach a person about iteration and conditional branching etc. in a little while longer, give them the reference manual, and they're off and away. The 50g is a full environment, with four programming language options and the capability to add more, and unlike TI, HP isn't trying to stop you from enjoying your hardware.
It's perhaps the easiest to learn programming platform out there for normies who don't want to fuck with IDEs, expensive software, etc. just to get some work done. It's great and they can either just write simple commands or whole elaborate programs without much computer fuckery.
Or you can use a computer-hosted IDE and emulator and simply transfer your completed programs to the device. Either way.
>>54040686
Of course! It teaches you math and programming discipline.
>>54040686
No, go play Xbox.
>>54040511
Why do you need hardware timer interrupts, 64 gigabytes of ROM and a fucking printer on a calculator?
>>54040792
It's a computer anon, it just looks like a calculator.
>>54040835
you are in too deep. Just go bite the bullet and learn python
Couldn't give less of a fuck tbqh famalam.
>>54038272
Not the guy you replied to but thanks for that. Very interesting.
>>54040850
Why not both?
>>54040924
See it in action anon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki1Inux1_wU
>>54040686
>not in math or engineering
>>54035906
>Try going to college with that absolutely retarded assumption.
All you ever need in exams is a $12 scientific calculator. For homeworks, you're better off using Matlab, Maple, or whatever the ¢001 kids are using these days. Hell, professors/TAs/graders love it if you hand in a printed out Maple/IPython notebook or LaTeX'ed paper rather than chicken scratch scrawl sprawling 12 pages of ripped out notebook paper with half of it crossed out and filled with endless redirect goto arrows.
>>54040665
>endorses Cruz
The way she pals around with Ratto makes me think she's possibly screwing him too.
Carly (nee Sneed LOL) killed the company good. She also personally killed off the 200LX.
What a bitch.
I love my 200LX, I also have a *MINT* 95LX NIB that I got off fleabay from an older gent in Corvallis.
It was clearly never used.
I fired it up and carefully closed it again. I use my 200LX all the time for various stuff, next stop is packet radio.
>>54036903
This
>>54037756
And also smells like an other college scam.
>overpriced books that have to be renewed every year
>crazy high semester fees
>rent cost inflated around campuses
>MOTHERFUCKING CALCULATORS
Srsly, people need to wake up and stop being so obsessed with the idea college=better status in life and a bright future.
(i know that the book costs can be avoided with scans or pirating them.)
>>54041235
Nah all kinds of hobbyists and normies could use a good calculator.
The 50g is now cheaper than the 12c even though it contains a full superset of the older calculator. What that means is that you have a full financial calculator that you can whip out your calculator during your mortgage application process and keep the mother fuckers honest.
I have a tides program with some various inputs for different locations I frequent ready for the program saved in named variables, so I can just throw them on the stack and run the program. I live by the ocean and do recreational oceany activities.
I have a little quick and dirty antenna package that I am writing as an exploration on how to program more efficiently. I am basing the math on NEC-2. Much better than a freakin' laptop in the field.
>All you ever need in exams
>homework
We're not talking about school calculators son.
The point is that a good calculator is an always-ready math tool that doesn't need to be recharged every day, won't ring in the middle of a calculation, can be quickly programmed for simple problems and used as a scratchpad or solve most of the problems you'd solve on a CAS program on your computer, etc.
The other point is the 50g is the best one out there and they are blowing them out.
>>54041356
Even if you're not going to college you should buy and use an HP RPN calculator, it can help in virtually any trade or craft.
Plus they're just cool.
>>54035825
I have a prime, I enjoy it. I didn't know they were dropping their division. Oh well.
>>54041556
HP is a shadow of its former shelf nowadays. :(
>>54035825
Used a TI-86 in high school back in 1998 through University , still use it as a chemical analyst now. That things a trooper. It's actually the perfect calculator for someone working in chemistry as it has a great Stat package and quick unit conversions. Easy to do quick RPD and RSD calcs too which is the bread and butter of my job. So not all TI sucks. That said the newer models are their own enemies as the actual useful functions are buried under really esoteric functions.
HP is ok, we use those mostly in my lab, but my TI is waaaayyyyy easier to do quick recoveries
>>54036178
This.
I never saw the point of calculators and always saw them as cheating. I feel guilty just touching one.
>>54041537
They look nice, yes.
Also, i fully understand that if you study the right subject, and get good results, you will have great chances of employment and a very well paid job. But the amount of these is little, compared to the dumb shits that go into crazy debt to study pointless stuff.
I blame the stupidity of the "consumer", only that enabled these money printing chemes. If they were clever they'd go in other fields instead of paying silly amounts without questioning it.
>>54036903
Bring a Casio and tell the teacher off. It's what I did back in the day
>>54035825
>tfw I've owned a 50G since 2010
>>54039211
>Swiss Micros
I think I might pick one up, thanks anon
>>54042094
>Bring a Casio
Just no.
>>54037412
>paying for education
top lel
does hp 50g still come with documentation?
>>54037412
In real life you will always have access to a programmable calculator
I hate fuckwit teachers who think they need to artificially make material harder than it actually is
>>54044200
Not in printed form anon.
;-(
>>54035906
I just use a computer like a normal person
>>54044248
they're in academia because they never made it in the real world
I once had a programming course where our 70 year old professor had us write a whole C program on paper as part of the final exam
they gave us blank paper
>>54041356
but education is an investment in your own future silly goy
there's no telling how high you can go with a degree in psychology or women's studies
>>54035825
stop making me want to buy things /g/, i've fallen for enough memes already
>>54044325
>I once had a programming course where our 70 year old professor had us write a whole C program on paper as part of the final exam
>they gave us blank paper
I had a professor make us write 8 large (>100 lines) and complex Verilog answers to an 60 minute exam on paper. Quit your bitching
>>54040320
obviously you have never been to college
if you actually use calculators in your major, you go to a shit uni
>>54038467
Hey I like the ULN series of integrated transistors with common emitters. Very fucking useful for driving 50-500mA devices from embedded MCUs
>>54035825
>discontinued their calculator divsion
they just dropped the hp 50g series, dumbass
RPN is overrated
>>54035825
Oh, look, my calculator in OP pic.
I can recommend it, it's awesome
>The HP 50g was discontinued in 2015 when Samsung stopped producing the ARM processor it was based on.
>it's still on sale
>it's cheap as shit
>nobody cares
HP calculators are so obscure that they'll never EVER sell their warehouses full of discontinued stock.
I've never even seen anyone else with an HP calc.
I wouldn't be surprised if they end up burying them in the middle of the mojave desert because literally nobody is buying them.
>>54041326
>(nee Sneed LOL)
Is that some /pol/-joke?
>Corvallis
What a beautiful name.
>>54046383
>I have never used RPN before
because I don't need a programmable calculator.
In fact I don't need calculators at all. I can either calculate it in my head or I need to calculate subnet masks and there's already a site that does that.
>>54048952
>being dependent on internet for math
And still you wonder why Pajeet will soon be your boss...
>>54037409
So you did some introductory babby course in physics? Nobody cares.
Why do people fetishise that obsolete clunky overpriced underpowered piece of shit.
>>54041724
TI-86 is best TI.
Significantly better than TI-84. And it's allowed on (nearly) every exam the TI-84 is allowed on.
I just wish my screen wasn't going out. I could take it apart to fix it but then I'll have to remove the batteries and I'll lose all of my programs.
>>54049845
Because RPN calculators are GOAT
>>54046561
Yo can they do like matrices and shit?
Really the only reason I want a graphing calc is because matrices are so time consuming.
>>54035906
I don't know where you go, but we aren't allowed to use calculators in college. We get an equation sheet and if we ever need to do heavy computation, we are using a computer.
>>54035825
Fuck HP and their overpriced calculators pandering to hipsters or elitist retards.
Anyone using HP 12C instead of TI BA II Plus or Pro for the CFA is either tremendous faggit or an elderly executive wasting a real candidate's seat.
Also fuck RPN.
>>54050621
>fuck RPN
Moron detected
>>54052511
Hipster alert
I hope you enjoy failing at exams and life
>>54052565
Sure thing bud
>>54052694
>Unironically adopting RPN
I bet you also use Arch as your main OS
>>54052778
Nah, OS X
>>54050621
shitty TI calcs already cost over 100 germonies
seriously, duck those jews
>>54052797
hipster AND gay
>>54052824
That's the 1991 model mind you, not the made in china ones.
>>54037869
wait
the 50g comes with tetris from the factory?
>>54052842
Epik memes, friend!
>>54052842
i don't give a fuck if some dumb chink or a fat fuck from kentucky called dave put it together
TI isn't just overpriced, it's probably one of the most overpriced things on the problems and i wish they all die
>>54039105
>a fucking calculator as a backup flight computer
>ti never did any of that shit
I know where my $50 is going
>>54052868
>TI overpriced
you w0t m8
Compared to TI, HP is like 3 times the price.
>>54035919
yeah, there is no way this is possible.
I love my hp calculators.
OpenPandora+mathomatic+gnuplot+Yacas+Reduce+x beats em all. Except for battery runtime (~20 Hours, but the Dragonbox Pyra should be better)
>>54050311
Of course anon. Matrices are easy with the 50g.
>>54050621
If I catch a financial 'brofessional' with a TI business calc at any institution I do business with, I will move my money instantly.
What kind of slack-jawed moron can't use RPN?
>>54049845
because it's literally a computer
in your pocket
don't try to justify that your phone is a computer because you only use it to consume media
>>54053223
can't those fucks use a decent d-pad now that the Nintendo patents have finally expired?
that thing looks 360-tier. (if even that)
>>54053223
It's the best D-Pad i ever used. I'm glad thet they use it in the Pyra as well.
>>54053223
Sometimes I wonder if anyone ever used their openpandora after they received it.
It was released 4 years after it was crowdfunded and by then, the specs were horribly out of date.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're all sitting drawers, because it's a jack of all trades, master of none.
>>54055029
what's the internal mechanism?
> Nintendo - fulcrum dome on cap
> Sega - fulcrum dome on membrane base
> (random shit design because 2 good ways patented)
>>54055056
Well there's a Great community around this. They Port and Optimize stuff to this thing. For example the newest Libreoffice is perfectly usable on the Classic Openpandora (the one with 256Mb ram).
>>54055100
That thing looks a bit too similar to the Nintendo DS.
I think a quick lawsuit should clear things up.
>>54035825
>thread over 24 hrs old
>on /g/
people do care about calculators!
:^D
>>54055181
nintendo may very well have some critical patents on handheld clamshell designs thank to the GBA SP.
similarity to DS is inconsequential given the entire lack of a second screen.
the d-pad internals are a big deal though. Nintendo's jealous protection for the max duration of the patents are why the 360 had a shit d-pad but the xbone finally got one that's functional.
>>54055243
IMO that is incorrect usage of patents.
If there is no conceivably equal/better way of doing something and there's really no other logical way to do it (4 way rocker switch, rectangular phones, fucking hinges, etc...) then it should not be a patent able aspect.
>>54055416
> reminder that d-pads didn't exist in any form until Nintendo dreamed them up
> reminder that home consoles used shitty joysticks, knobs, etc., until Nintendo thought up the Game & Watch and then the NES.
D-Pads are a privilege, anon, not a right.
>>54053101
>Every university is exactly the same
>>54049736
I know how to calculate it manually and one of those $5 cheapo calculators is more than good enough for that.
I had to buy a TI-83 Plus when i started high school ten years ago. That calculator has followed me all the way through a degree in engineering. I recently moved and i can't find it now FeelsBadMan
>>54055540
I hope you never complain of monopolies. Do you?
>>54035825
Feels like overpriced monopoly shit from TI enforced by public schools
>>54052844
Just evaluate the command 'MINEISBETTER' and Tetris comes up.
It's an easter egg.
>>54041356
>book price can be avoided
No
You still have to pay almost full price for access to the homework systems now. They only did this because they know kids are pirating so they will get your money no matter what.
>>54039194
kubrick even predicted all the flat design
such a clever fucker
>>54056793
unless you can show that Nintendo swiped the mechanism for the 4-way rocker switch from something else and just added "... on a game console controller" to the patent, you're on shaky ground, anon.
Keep buying TI calculators to support my salary
>>54036532
It's so fucking slow and the screen could use a higher res so you don't have to scroll.
>>54040511
>82242b
82240 b actually.
Damn fine printer, thermostatic so all you need is the paper rolls and they are in a standard size so they are easy to get.
Also it will work with common ballistics computers and make printouts and graphs and stuff (save money by buying the HP version of the same printer for way less $$$$).
>>54057191
Yep, but so was George C. Scott.
Kubrick was an HP user from the early days, trying to find a pic I have of him with his HP-67...
>>54057256
>scrolling
>on a calculator
confirmed for can't into stacks
>>54057283
>tfw your calculator can't roll, pick, drop, dup, or swap
>>54039230
>sapcelab
>>54057054
>MINEISBETTER
I'm assuming this is to show up tifags?
>>54035906
fell for the college meme
> not being part of nSpire master race
1. Calculators are pointless with wolframalpha.com
2. Because any math class that allows calculators only allows certain kinds on the exam, specifically the ti83
>HUR TI calculators suck HP master race
Collegefag here. When I can't figure out how to get my TI to work some shitty Statistics problem I can look up a dozen videos on YouTube that show me. Plus my Stats textbook shows how to figure shit out on the TI instead of wasting time looking up tables so you can calculate confidence intervals.
>>54058280
That's wonderful anon, but HPs are still better
>>54058304
Completely subjective. Whatever makes life easier for your given situation.
>>54057256
New model is better and has a nicer display.
>>54058072
No RPN, no thanks.
>>54058520
Why is everything its own app with Casio? It's like having ten retarded calculators in one instead of one really good calculator.
Also Casio and TI can't do this...
>nerding out about calculators
what a banal and inconsequential thing to get worked up about
i bet 99% of the people in this thread don't even require all the features of their calculators
a $10 casio will do if you require anything more complicated than sin/cos
>>54058674
A $10 Casio has no RPN
>>54058706
is it safe to assume that RPN is the calculator equivalent of using arch linux with a tiling WM instead of a DE?
>>54058754
Be honest.
matlab
mathematica
wolfram alpha
all for free
i even have it on my cellphone
