Hey guys, I haven't been on /g/ for a while but I'm aware the Sansa Clip+ has been discontinued. What's the new go-to PMP with rockbox support and an SD slot? Thanks
Moto e + 128GB microsd if you're on a budget
Else just use your phone like a normal human being.
>>54027407
>>54027424
>Being this niggerous
>>54027424
2nd gen moto e btw, 1st gen has no microsd slot.
>not inheriting a clip+ from your little brother because he thought it was "too old"
>>54027424
>>54027448
Looking for something smaller than that, thanks though.
>>54027424
>just use something that's 5 times larger and heavier, and that mostly likely doesn't even have physical buttons for playback control, and costs way more
such advice!
much wow!
>>54027407
Use your phone and a streaming music service you dipshit. Leave the past in the past
>>54027461
>not clearing out target of them when they were on clearance for 20$
>>54027497
You should have clarified that you wanted a small, light media played. You see, /g/ is very autistic and needs extremely specific questions or they will freak out.
Ruizu ya dingus
Check the Chink Shit General pastebin
Another clip+, sorry OP there isn't really much else. Maybe an ipod shuffle if you don't mind iTunes
>>54027529
I'm not even OP, but I do use a clip+, which is superior to any modern phone.
you can still find refurbed clip+ on ebay for $35
I bought two a couple months ago, they look and feel brand new except for the "REFURB" printed on the bottom surface. I don't look at that surface anyways so I don't care. I get the stated 15 hr battery life and the front screen panel came with the little... "fake display" type sticker on it and no scratches, so I'm guessing they just put in a new battery and used a new shell
9/10 would buy again. Just wished they'd let me know about the REFURB print ahead of time
>carrying a whole fucking smartphone as your PMP
The Ruizu x02 is a decent option (stated 80 hr battery life, never actually tested it from 100 to 0 but I get at least 30+ hour runtimes) but it can't run rockbox and the difference between $15 and $35 doesn't seem that big a deal to me, the rockbox features are worth it
>>54027546
I very much mind iTunes, wouldn't use it though.
>>54027561
thanks, ill check that out
>>54027407
sansa zip clip
check your local best buys for them
Is Rockbox dead? There hasn't been a new release or much development activity since 2013.
iPod with SD card upgrade
>>54027596
Second-gen Ipod Nanos are rockbox-able, I picked up a 2Gig silver one off ebay for $25.
The 2Gigs doesn't go that far for FLACs obviously, but you can fit a metric FUCKTON of sequenced music formats (.xm, .mod, midi, .sid etc), good when you're in the mood for some bloops.
The real reason I got it though is for sneakily playing Pokemon Crystal at work and it works great for that. Just beat the first gym leader yesterday at work, trained up my geodude a bit today.
SEMI-EXHAUSTIVE ROCKBOY POKEMON REVIEWS:
Clip+ : Rockboy works and runs full speed + good sound, but the ~16 pixels on the bottom of the GB screen wrap around to the top of the clip+ screen, and it's fucking difficult reading text or telling what's going on on a 128x64 monochrome screen with no aliasing.
Clip Zip: Runs full speed, full speed sound. Quite playable, but the 96x96 unaliased screen makes reading text difficult unless you already know the game well. Hardware buttons are nice though.
e280: Runs slow, like half speed even on monochrome Pokemon Red w/ no sound. Enough pixels for 1:1 mapping but the slowness kills it for me.
Fuze v2: Runs full speed? I forget. Has enough pixels for 1:1 mapping of the screen, but the colors are all fucked up. Probably fixable through a patch or some shit but idk how to patch raw C + ARM asm. Colors kinda ruin it for me, all fucked up even on monochrome (2-bit) mode IIRC
Fuze+ : Full speed + sound, 1:1 mapping , but the only controls are touchpad based and this thing's not really an advantage over a smartphone.
>>54027732
It's not dead, but all their target devices are discontinued and becoming harder to find.
With no new ports being introduced, rockbox will quickly become irrelevant.
Ipod classic is goat tier
oh and BEWARE!!!!!!
THE "SANSA CLIP SPORT" and "CLIP JAM" are TOTAL FUCKING IMPOSTORS that use a different, cheaper SoC and are not supported by rockbox. I guess they still work as microSD PMPs, but without rockbox why even live on this gay earth
>>54027782
>>54027764
That's pretty gay. I tried finding a Fuze for less than the price of a phone a few years ago, it was a nightmare.
>>54027759
>playing pokemon on a 128x64 screen
Not gonna lie, that's hardcore
>>54027759
Where do you get your sequenced music from? I already have HVSC and keygen music library, anything else to check out?
>>54027807
honestly it's a neat gimmick to show your friends the splash screen, but not really too enjoyable to play. text is basically unreadable and every area looks the same/ hard to navigate, especially since I have the 1/4 of the screen wrapping around issue. You basically have to have played the game recently and have it memorized where to go etc.
This guy has the older version (no sd slot???), and without the wraparound issue it looks sort of playable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXum29VBtAk
Again, I'm assuming the wraparound issue is an "easy" fix, but that's assuming you're already a lv 99 freetard to begin with
>>54027866
mostly soulseek, I run a search for "keygen music" or "xm" and then if I see a user with more than a handful of results I go "browse files".
I just wish there was an "auto skip to next track after $SECONDS" function for all the sequenced formats, it gets annoying having to manually skip forward each track for the ~60% of files that are set up to auto-loop
check ebay for a broken one and fix it.
The King is dead, long live the King.
isn't clip+ rather easy to remake these days? why don't we make an open source version of it DIY and just use rockbox?
>>54028124
seems plausible with some easy to find parts I'm sure a kickstarter/indigogo could easily get funded
Just get a 5.5g ipod classic and use the dual sd iflash with 2 512gb sd cards.
>>54028284
wtf???
>>54028415
What's wrong?
>>54028284
>>54028415
>>54028474
https://www.iflash.xyz/store/iflash-dual/
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1178282-REG/kingston_sda10_512gb_512gb_sdxc_c10_uhs_i.html
>not using a zune HD still
Do you even the best MP3 player ever made?
>>54028650
>zune
>>54027542
This looks good. Thx anon
http://www.head-fi.org/t/744865/the-ruizu-x02-dap-thread
>>54028124
Honestly, Sandisk has to be purposely failing or something, do they not want to make money? Just keep making the damn thing!
>>54030865
clip+ and clip zip are pure flukes of engineering
the new ones are cheaper to make (which corporate likes) and have better battery life (which customers like), and for everyone involved, that's all they care about.
>>54030865
yea I'm not sure how or why they discontinued the product ... pretty fucking stupid
The clip+ is a product that does not exist any more.
Rockbox isn't going to be made for any new devices any time soon.
If someone would port rockbox to the Ruizu X02 that'd be fucking fantastic.
As it is now my own clip+ is getting short on battery life and I think there's going to be some nigrigging in its future as I replace the battery with a fairly unsuitably sized one.
Anyone know what voltage the battery in the clip+ runs at?
I hope it's 3.7
>>54027503
LOLLLL do you even run/bike??
>>54031884
I carry around a slippery, fragile $400 device just to listen to music while exercising.
Why would you buy a small dedicated device that clips onto clothing?
>>54031900
Sounds like you answered your own question
>>54031884
I do, both actually. Ran a half marathon last summer and do a century every fall.
I carry an LG G3 in a Spibelt when I run and put it on a handlebar mount when I ride.
Are FiiO X1 a good alternative? They are more expensive I know, but apart from that?
>>54034751
Can't rockbox or play opus.
Otherwise it's perfect.
Ruizu doesn't support flac?
>>54034993
It does.
Clip+ is the only thing that can drive my IEMs without excessive amounts of static
>in b4 people recommend their shitty iphones or whatever to drive their $5 apple earbuds
>>54027407
>Hey guys, I haven't been on /g/ for a while but I'm aware the Sansa Clip+ has been discontinued. What's the new go-to PMP with rockbox support and an SD slot? Thanks+ 0 post omitted.
your phone
stop being a nigger and use it
You can still get *new* 8gb clip+ on amazon for around $60.
Add an additional $5 for a protective silicone case.
>>54027503
Eww, streaming services.
Reminder that ATJ chips will never be supported by rockbox.
This includes all the new Clips, Ruizu players, Fiio M3 and a bunch of others.
>>54030865
The SoC-maker EOL'd the chips. There's nothing Sandisk can do.
>>54035602
>tfw all good player SoCs are literally dead
It's either Ingenic JZ or fucking ATJ now.
If you want something cheap with a similar form factor I would recommend the AGPTek G02. If you need a screen they have one with a screen now but I've never used it.
I've gone through a lot of cheap mp3 players because I'm a long-distance runner and this is the best one I've found that is <$25.
Before I used this one I just bought a handful of those cheap shuffle clones off of aliexpress for like a $1 each and just swapped a microsd card between them when they ran out of juice. The SQ is pretty terrible on them though.
>>54031207
All Lithium-ion battery cells have the same voltage, about 4.2-4.4 full, 3.0 drained.
Had those clips in jail, except they had a clear back case. Why the hell would anyone willingly use that shit?
>>54035820
because rockbox and excellent SQ
You jelly?
>>54036304
>3.13
>not doubling his battery life by installing the latest dev build
>>54036321
Is it stable in daily use?
>>54036648
pussy
it's an audio-player, not the launch-console for nuclear warheads.
>>54036648
yes
>>not using xduoo x3
>>54037970
holy fuck that thing is massive
what do you think I'm the hulk?
>>54037970
I like the dual SD's and metal build and OLED but its so big and ugly you might as well get an old iPod 5.5G which has an actual stable RB port.
I definitely want to get a clip+ so I don't have to use my phone. But my question is will my fiio e18 work with it, both the amp and DAC features? I ask because I've heard the clip+ has a good DAC and it may not utilize the fiio's DAC or it can't use it.
>>54027561
Thanks for the advice, got one for $35 from ebay. Would recommend.
>>54037970
>rockbox
Holy shit, anon. You really are afraid of change
I still love my sansa clip+, but the battery life is starting to be shitty. Is it replaceable?
>>54039853
if you have good soldering skills
you might try installing the latest rockbox dev builds, they have introduced voltage scaling that will double your battery life
xDuoo x3
http://xvtx.ru/rockbox/
>>54027448
not true, I had a 1st gen and I had a 32GB microsd in it.
>>54027759
>Clip+ : Rockboy works and runs full speed + good sound, but the ~16 pixels on the bottom of the GB screen wrap around to the top of the clip+ screen, and it's fucking difficult reading text or telling what's going on on a 128x64 monochrome screen with no aliasing.
Yeah the scaling sucks ass on monochrome, but you can do something about the stupid wraparound. Start your ROM, hit power, choose reset. Notice how you now have a random different wraparound amount. Repeat a few times until it's very small.
That and just stop playing GameBoy on such a microscopic screen after the novelty of it wears off.
>>54027503
>paying money for streaming
>faffing about with a music app
Oh dear
>>54040095
>Worrying about ten dollars a month
>faffing about with transferring audio files manually
>>54040296
>$120/year
>every year
>on top of the $600/year cellular connection you need to access the music
>>54040486
#btfo
>>54040095
I'm using free streaming. Jelly?
>>54038181
it's smaller than the iphone 3g.
>>fucking manlet
>>54039424
what does rockbox have to do with being afraid of change. the original OS is shit compared to what rockbox has to offer. but you wouldn't know because you're poor as shit and rather have people by a shitclip+
Got a 160 GB iPod Classic with Rockbox, works pertty good. The battery life is pretty shit though.
My clip zip sound so much better than my Nexus 5. Especially the stereo image is much wider. When I a change from zip to N5 it feels like I am listening to mono.
>>54040486
>can't afford a cell plan
Get your entire life anon. Who would want to live like you
>>54042456
Yes goy, spend that money.
You don't want people to think you are poor!
>>54042456
>paying for more data for that streaming service you pay for when you can just store it locally
You're right, clearly your way is superior
I work an overnight security shift.
I am literally playing music for 8 hours a night on my Note 4. by morning it's still at like 75%. You guys are literally autistic for not using your cellphones.
>>54042620
And then you use your phone as a phone for a few hours and have no phone nor music player
>>54028474
question anwsered>>54028514
>>54039982
Xduoo x3 indeed. It's run LINUX, damn you
>>54042620
Mmmooookey, can you run with your phone inside the pocket? Can you shift tracks or volume level while it rests inside your pocket? Can your phone last 40 hrs? Can you drop your phone?
>>54035820
There's an alternate firmware you can get called Rockbox that allows it to play back pretty much any format and make it overall more customizable, and shit like being able to browse music by directory structire
So back in the day it was a cheap as fuck little thingy that could play any music, has a long as fuck battery life, and for its size sounds pretty damn good
>>54036304
How find-able is this?
My Clip's headphone jack is dead, only putting out of 1 ear. And it was a bit too small for me to see well in the car. What model is this again?
>>54027503
fuck you i mean it
CHINK MAGIC
http://www.amazon.com/AGPtEK-Playback-Lossless-Player-Supports/dp/B00XVVYV64/ref=sr_1_5?srs=2528894011&ie=UTF8&qid=1460684467&sr=8-5&keywords=mp3
>>54043661
>b-b-but they dont have muh weeb music!!
>my music is 2 obscure 4 uuu
:^)
>there is still not a smallish Android device that basically works like a tablet (wifi, no mobile internet) except it's much smaller and can be used for music and storage and other shit that doesn't cost next to nothing
why.png
>>54043745
I'm fucking serious, this is exactly what I want. Fuck tracking device phones and fuck oversized goddamn tablets, I want a modern update of the old PDAs.
>doing dumbbel press at gym
>lift weights up to knees ready to go
>right ontop my clip
>cracked the sceen causing a couple of lines of the oled screen to be always on
>also broke of the actual clip running hen it snagged on some branches
little guy just keeps on truckin
>>54043673
are these good?
I almost pulled the trigger on a similar one, but I saw there were problems with playing tracks in correct order for when you wanna listen to a concept album
>>54043912
Mine went through the washing machine. Fucking beast. Also
>dumbbell press
>>54027542
Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of shit with down syndrome.
Smartphones, you fucking hipsters
>>54044268
>my needs suit everyone's
Fuck off
>>54043974
>concept album
meme term, fucking plebs i swear
but no theyre fine. I had the 2015 russian ruizu version. this one has a much better firmware and is actually supposed to be sold in america
>>54027424
using my best buy black friday $10 moto e for exactly this... except i am poor and have a 64GB microSD.
>>54044450
what else do you call an album whose tracks all run into each other because the artist is keeping with a theme?
>>54044495
an album
all albums were meant to be listened to from beginning to end until like a decade ago. all albums were "concept albums"
its a term used exclusively by kids whose ipods are filled with hundreds of singles who only now are just discovering real music
its like a hidden way to say "dad-rock" unironically. it pisses me off.
>>54027407
>the Sansa Clip+ has been discontinued. What's the new go-to PMP with rockbox support and an SD slot?
...The Sansa Clip+
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SanDisk-Sansa-Clip-8-GB-MP3-Player-Black-SDMX18-/191842674923?hash=item2caab6e8eb:g:ibEAAOxydlFS4oRt
Got a refurb, looks like new. Only has that refurb text printed on the bottom.
>>54043745
Why not use an old phone?
>>54043745
Old smartphone dude
Clip Zip + RockBox = can't go wrong
Just a shame it's discontinued
Get AGPtEK 8gb/Ruizu
Can't believe people actually want one of these.
I bought one like 2 years ago because if could play flac, and I can't get a Data Connection on my phone sometimes in my gym.
Other than that pretty useless.
>>54043659
clip zip
>>54048162
>wow my music player only plays music? so useless
Are the Jam and sport really that bad? it's have the price of the clip+. I never used rock box before, is it really that important?. I've been using Zune/Xbox/Spotify for the past 6 years and they're trash.
>>54048750
*half the price
whoops.
>>54048750
yes and yes.
>>54027750
Shit will cost you >400€
just no
Just get fiio x1 with 200gb card for 140€ all together.
>>54027407
>Sansa Clip+ has been discontinued
But you can still buy it off Amazon?
Alternatively get the clip zip
>>54048750
>I never used rock box before, is it really that important?
Rockbox spoiled me with Crossfeed and a Parametric EQ.
I can't use a device that doesn't have a param EQ anymore, luckily Windows has EqualizerAPO and Android has the Neutron player.
>>54048135
no, I don't want any iPod-nano-wannabes.
>>54048162
what?
>>54048876
enjoy your firmware in chingchong-quality distributed via dropbox with ridiculous limitations
>>54049279
only refurbished or used or broken
>>54048876
>$75 = >€400
>>54035780
this
>>54037970
>where shall we put the buttons?
>let's roll a fucking dice and let fate decide
>>54035191
you autistic fucks can only buy online? can't just go out and hunt for bargain deals in pawn shops or stuff like that.
I bought 2 clips during the past years for dirt cheap :
$20 for the clip zip and $30 for the clip+
>>54052648
>a dice
I've been using a pretty old iPod with Rockbox. Can't say I'm disappointed in it.
>>54052668
>troll pawn shops and goodwill stores for years
>on the off chance they have a clip+ on the shelf
Real talk, if you already own a phone that has a media player on it, is there any reason to have a separate device to listen to music?
Most smartphones even have equalizers and really good apps to play music, so explain it to me because I just don't get it.
I've owned a SC+ and sure it was good but I feel it's just highly outdated now alongside other one-trick pony devices like it.
>>54053660
People who exercise tend to regard a dedicated player as a good idea. The huge value of smartphones and their slipperyness makes them ideal for slipping out of pockets. Fumbling for the controls is a pain in the dick too.
Battery life is another issue. Storage space can be too- you want free space on your phone, and a music collection will eat that up.
lol the sansa clip + w/ rockbox was my worst experience with technology by far.
endlessly buggy, constantly crashing, shitty quality (the loose headphones jack problem), and today it stopped working with my micro sd card on for some reasons, and then it simply stopped working. 9 months of problems and it was mostly a pain in the ass instead of a simple device that plays music
>>54053745
You got a faulty one, stop bitching. I've had mine for six years without one single problem.
>>54053759
every single sansa clip + has the loose headphone jack problem.
for the rest yeah, i got a shitty one
>>54053777
Can you elaborate on this loose jack problem? I don't think I've ever experienced it with mine.
>>54053841
i'm too lazy to write so here it is: http://www.head-fi.org/t/538544/clip-repair-of-jack-and-volume-control-and-replacing-battery
i think you can prevent it by adding some super glue like the dude does
>>54048876
What?
Pick a second hand iPod, a mod kit from iflash.xyz and an SD card.
No way that route would cost you three times the price of a fiio and an equal SD card.
Also where the fuck do I get a 200GB SD card? That's not a standard size.
As far as I know, the 1tb mod you can do to an iPod is where PMPs cap currently. Too bad such storage isn't practical.
>>54053660
fatty detected
>>54054154
>Also where the fuck do I get a 200GB SD card? That's not a standard size.
you're a moron
>>54051694
That's what a iPod including ssd/battery upgrade costs in Europe.
>>54054154
It's is a standard size and I ment micro sd.
>>54054301
IPod classic
>>54027596
You don't have to use iTunes with iPods, I normally use foobar with my iPod nano, it's tits
I'm very happy with my Sansa Zip. Had the Clip+ before that and can't complain.
>>54054301
Do it yourself you dolt, it's like a 10 minute job, if that
I got this chink player for under 2 bux, it's fucking loud, shame there's no folder browsing support.
>>54055679
I got the same one as a spare but yeah it's pretty shit. I usually have my library sorted by folders and I can't use it with this.
>>54053660
>forced to pay or crack apps to get gapless playback and/or replaygain support
nah.
nah.
>>54054154
nigga plehz
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&field-keywords=200gb%20sdxc
one thing I liked about the sansa clip, it didn't have an butt ugly UI featuring blurry text and compressed jpegs straight out of 2002
i love the simple sharp bright blue/yellow pixel screen
it's beautiful
>>54053660
sound quality. most phones have garbage DACs in them
battery life. you need your phone for communication. if you're going to listen to 2-5 hours of music, why put the drain on your phone?
>>54054844
>wouldn't use it though
xDuoo x2 is the ugly little brother of the sansa clip+
>>54027407
Get a phone with decent audio output and just buy this to keep the battery up.
http://www.amazon.com/Poweradd-Charging-Portable-Identification-Smartphones/dp/B00MWU1GGI
>tfw your clip+ battery never seems to last long enough
>>54056432
Really disagree with this.
My Sansa clip sounds worse than my Note 3.
>only markings are "sansa" and "sandisk"
Is it really so bad to put the product name on the product?
>>54047006
I'm clutching mine with fear
>>54057782
God, that thing would piss me off so much every time I looked at it. It looks like it has basically an edge to edge screen, but in reality it only takes up like 60% of that space.
Anyway, my Clip+ is still going strong after a few years. I only use it for audiobooks, though. I use my phone (spotify) or a Photon Q (my own library, used less frequently now) for music. The clip broke off awhile back, though, so it doesn't do a whole lot of clipping anymore. Works fine in the pocket, and is amazingly slim now.
And for all the people whining about the need for a small player like the Clip+: There's nothing I hate more than having my phone in my pocket, banging against my leg and getting all wet when I am mowing the lawn, doing yard work, or riding bike.
>>54059773
samsung is one of the OEMs with good sound quality. apart from apple there is really only samsung. HTC is supposedly stepping up the bar though
>>54060014
>listening to an audiobook while mowing the lawn
>being able to hear it over the mower
>>54043659
I had the same issue, fixed it with a soldering iron.
Just open 'er up and see what's come loose.
>>54060014
I glued a peg to the back of my clip+. First I shaved off the knobbly plastic bits to make a flat surface, then I glued a peg to the back.
It now clips again, even if it looks a bit silly.
>>54062306
I used one of these and some fishing line.
"Ghetto" approaches a reasonable description.
>>54062363
yeah. pic related.
>>54027407
>amazon
>$22
>64gb sd
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZZWTFPE?psc=1
>>54062687
Ew, just ew. You can get a 64GB shark for half that
>>54043745
>>54043841
>>54045780
>>54045849
samsung galaxy player.
desu, looking at it now (last time i did, i didn't have a smartphone) it just looks like a samsung galaxy phone without the phone aspect. literally like the iphone 1 vs the itouch.
>tfw good SoCs all discontinued
>tfw only shitty ATJ left
>tfw this is how rockbox dies
>>54027497
>such advice!
>much wow!
