Which one would be worst for technological development?
Which one would be best for technological progress?
Why?
Just look at hong kong and then look at Venezuela and you will find your answer
>>53988542
worst, cruz, shillary and communist.
best, Trump.
Worst: Cruz and Clinton. Cruz is just Bush III and Clinton is just a fucking retard when it comes to tech. Clinton also voted for the Patriot Act and its reauthorization.
Best: Sanders voted against the Patriot Act and wire tapping without warrants. He also continues to vote against Patriot Act reauthorizations.
Trump: Who the fuck knows what he's thinking.
>>53988591
Hong Kong = communist
Venezuela = run by bankers
Hmmm...
>>53988591
>le latin america is bad because of socialism meme
Nice meme, but it's America's fault actually.
>>53988542
I hope Trump wins. If not, then Hillary, having a gilf as president must be cool.
>>53988610
Trump wanted apple to unlock the iPhone
>>53988645
>>53988678
>having a gilf as president must be cool.
yes goy, yes. vote for a woman. nothing could go wrong
>>53988645
Someone took it personally.
>>53988735
Women are master race. Not the one you posted though, but for the most part.
>>53988624
Venezuelan government had no problem taking over foreign businesses and their assets. What makes you think they couldn't take over the banks as well?
>>53988542
They'd literally all be bad for technological development, for varying combinations of reasons.
Johnson 2016
>>53988798
sure they are. nobody can bankrupt companies and destroy countries as fast as them.
>>53988645
Latin America is bad because machetes. WTF is with you guys and your machetes?
http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=machete&sort_by=views
>>53988842
Yahoo was gone already, for years. This leaves one bad woman, Merkel
Best would be McAffee
>>53988871
The guy's an idiot, you just like him because he's a human meme who says crazy shit, just like why /pol/ likes trump
>>53988818
Because they and the banks are one.
And that is true of every Latin American country.
Hands down Bernie would be the best by far.
He would break down big corporations and promote competition.
Ask something harder, OP.
>>53988901
>>>/pol/ gaped your sissy ass this badly?
>>53988645
Chilefag here.
Allende killed himself.
And it was an AWESOME dictatorship.
>>53988901
on the plus side he wants to disband the NSA and focus on IT.
>>53988967
he would wreck the economy tough.
I hope Trump is going to win but I think Hillary is going to the Whitehouse.
>>53988967
>Bernie
bait, unless you're a nigger
>>53988542
Best: Cruz
If by technological you mean military tech.
>>53988989
RMS supports Bernie
>>53988967
Bernie would raise the taxes.
>>53988707
>Building a master key for the govt. to be able to unlock literally any iphone
They said they only were going to do it for that phone and that phone only but that was proven bs, the govt. had another phone they wanted unlocked, and then like, 40 other phones they were gunna ask again for.
"Just one more iPhone apple, cmon."
Though, trump is the kind of guy who would want to unlock the phone, just like how he wants to "shut down parts of the Internet where all the terrorists are hiding"
Why are all the candidates so shit.
>>53989082
This is what happens when you let your government devolve into a two party system.
>>53988977
Yeah, it was so awesome we have the greatest income inequality in the OECD, and we don't even own our water anymore. Chile #1
>>53988917
Venezuelan money is literally worthless. Unless these are some government owned Venezuelan banks you are talking about, no foreign bank would want to do business there.
>>53989111
la bebida sin hielo porfa
>>53989044
I don't care who supports who. Bernie is #BLM cuck
>>53989110
that's pretty much inherent to governments, actually, regardless of the number of parties or if they're democratic at all. Governments want power and act to increase their power, it was ever thus. The job of the people is to prevent them from doing that.
Do you even have to ask?
>>53989113
>implying banks don't earn more the worse it is
>>53989044
RMS studied IT, not politics.
His opinion on poltics has as much impact as say Bush's opinion on proprietary software.
>>53989291
retard
>>53989238
fuck off kike
>>53989292
Bernie studied politics. Trump didn't.
>>53989159
Literally all the rest of the candidates support Patriot Act spying. This thread isn't about BLM, it's about tech. Do you think the Patriot Act is a good thing?
>>53988542
Trump because he's a racist, a fascist and shits on women constantly , prove me wrong
you can't
>>53989326
Nice anti-Semitism.
>>53989363
The Patriot Act and NSA spying is not a good thing. The problem is that that's the only good thing Bernie wants, everything else on his agenda is harmful. It's also not exactly the core of his agenda. Do you really think privacy is going to be something he'll go off and fight for in Washington? No, he cares about raising your taxes and tearing up free-trade agreements, both of which are harmful things.
>>53989431
I think more people earning college degrees without contracting usurious debts is going to be great for technological progress and education in general.
>>53989291
See 2008 US stock market crash. They won't continue lending money if there's no way for them to get it back plus interest. Bankers stand to make much more off people in Europe and the US than they do in some poor South American country.
>>53989483
That one which was caused by the banks?
And which earned them a gov't bail out?
Yeah, I remember. Do you?
>>53988624
>Hong Kong = communism
How do you get to be this retarded?
>>53989460
You can do that now. You go to a community college and get a two year degree and transfer to a state school. You can pick a degree that has some value in the job market. You can choose not to borrow more than you can easily pay back.
All the debt thats been taken on is a free choice by those who owe it. Nobody puts a gun to your head and forces you to take out $100k in loans. Nobody is even forcing you to go to college to begin with, you can go into the trades if you want. If you think student-loan debt is burdensome and usurious, then choose not to take the loan.
>>53989460
when colleges lose out on this much funding, they will go to shit
>>53989510
>caused by banks
It was caused by poorfags like you, you mouthbreathing cocksucker.
You goddamn retards didn't pay your mortgages and crashed the whole damn economy.
We should literally genocide the poor.
>>53989516
>no one is forcing you but if you don't you starve to death haha
Why are capitalists always so cynical?
If you hate socialism so much /g/, then why aren't you working over 14 hours a day alongside your wife and young kids in a factory for under minimum wage?
>>53989554
>thinking that if you don't borrow tens of thousands of dollars to get a degree, you'll starve to death.
no amount of education will help you
>>53989513
HongKongian commie detected :^)
>>53989521
Because those university presidents just gotta keep earning humongous lumps of cash, right?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/19/college-presidents-student-debt_n_5353665.html
ITT: anti-bernie shills get #rekt
>>53989523
but the banks approved loans to degenerates. should've done better background checks
Oh, look. Another bernout shill thread.
Best: Trump and Sanders
Worst: Rato and Shillary
>>53989567
Hes right. Some schools are pretty cheap. You get the same education most places, people who pay a lot just pay for the school's brand name to put on your resume
>>53989637
↑ blm activist ↑
>>53989516
>science and technology
>community college
top jej
>>53989731
>>53989159
What's so bad about BLM?
Do you think the lives of black people don't matter?
Bernie and Trump are against free trade, the single biggest drive for technological progress in the past 30 years (and eliminating global inequality in the process).
They're disqualified by definition, they would take us back to the stone age very quickly, where electronics and tech products were only cheap and affordable in rich Asian countries like Singapore and Hong Kong, and everything took months to cross the Pacific or the Atlantic (in some cases years).
Furthermore, the US tech industry is dominant because the top universities in the world are overwhelmingly American (roughly 18 out of the top 20 for example).
Bernie would destroy that in order to make them affordable and widely accessible to every plebeian, destroying the industry down the abysmal EU levels.
Therefore Bernie comes dead last, behind even Trump.
Cruz and Hillary are both establishment shills, they would not impede the worldwide dominance of the US technology industry. There is no significant difference between the two.
>>53989752
>niggers
>mattering
>inb4 CURRENT YEAR
>>53989746
Yes, a community college will offer at least 80% of what you would be doing your first 2 years at a 4-year university. Hell, a lot of states have agreements between their CCs and Unis that make the transition extremely smooth.
>>53988591
Germany is socialist as fuck and they are still technological monsters
>>53989767
Are you trying to be funny?
Because people being murdered due to hate and racism is not funny.
Bernie sanders will revert America into a confederate nation
>>53989806
>>53989762
Wincor Nixdorf?
Spotify??
What is this picture it's retarded
>>53989795
Rapidly declining. They're a mere shadow of their former selves.
>>53988542
the woman and the communist
woman are incompetent with tech
>>53989762
Panda
Qt
SAP
Amadeus
Software AG
What do I win?
>>53989885
SAP is the only valid answer, and there's not really another
>>53989795
>Germany is socialist
lol
>>53989806
Coming to the most racist website on the internet and you expect no racism.. TOPKEK.
>That's like swimming in /b/ and expecting not to get pissed on.
>>53989795
>Germany is socialist
Germany is ordoliberal.
American education, ladies and gentlemen!
>>53989806
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls
>>53989510
The main reason the US government bailed out banks was because they were complicit. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were created by the US government. Our credit rating also took a hit and was downgraded because of it. My original argument still stands. Venezuela is small potatoes. Their government has fucked them up far worse than any bank ever could.
>>53989899
You're kidding, right?
>>53989762
Every European car manifacturer? Every European game developer? Every European Phone manuefacturer? Every European Software developer?
Audi
CD Project Red
Nokia
Kaspersky
Siemens?
Is there something I'm not understanding or are these people retarded?
>>53990007
They're retarded. Stop replying to trolls.
>>53989762
>Bernie would destroy that in order to make them affordable and widely accessible to every plebeian, destroying the industry down the abysmal EU levels.
Except paid universities are more accessible to plebeians. Free public universities that recruit based on some kind global subject testing and special achievements would be harder to get into because people that are interested in them won't be turned off by huge debts, giving you more contestants per place.
>>53989431
Yeah, Bernie is so much of a populist sometimes that it's comical. In particular I snicker when he starts talking about the pharmaceutical industry and heroin addiction. I believe that when people turn to heroin, it's the individual's fault. He acts like the drug industry intentionally designed oxycodone to be addictive, and it's big pharma's fault that people end up turning to heroin.
I agree with a lot of what he says, particularly when he says that America is dealing with drug addiction completely wrong. But sometimes he plays the "all corporations are evil" card one too many times.
If the stars align and Bernie does somehow become President, I predict we'll just get a replay of Obama's presidency. Obama made a lot of big promises, and while he did come through on many of them he also abandoned many. Like the promise to shut down Guantanamo. That was clearly just a promise that scored popularity points, anyone who thinks about that problem for more than 5 minutes realizes that you can't just set those people free.
>>53990007
>Audi
lol VW dieselgate, have to resort to cheating to meet regulations whereas every American manufacturer can at least meet regulations without cheating
>CD Project Red
>gaymes
>Nokia
is dead and owned by an American company called Microsoft now
>>53990029
>>53990076
>be capitalist
>defend regulations
You do know those regulations are just environmental alarmist horseshit, right? And that you're giving up performance to comply with them, right?
VW did nothing wrong.
>>53990076
CPR may make games but they're pieces of software that are fucking amazing. Actually from a technical perspective they've far surpassed 99% of American Game devs.
>>53990007
I thought the same thing, especially with Siemens because they're everywhere in biomed. But technically Audi, Nokia, and Siemens are tech companies, not strictly software companies. Likewise, we could say that Microsoft, Apple, and Cisco don't count because they're hardware manufacturers.
It's just a stupid question to begin with.
>>53990100
It's still evidence of inferior engineering/technology.
Hillary doesn't seem to know a single fucking thing.
You know aside from being a corrupt gigantic, filthy fucking useless fetid cunt god dammit
I don't have a word bad enough for this subhuman
>>53990089
>Making college free would devalue them
Yeah, I mean you don't want everyone to be smart, it would devalue intelligence :^)
>>53990133
>american engineering is better than german engineering
You wish Amerikaner.
Your cars have 0 clever mechanics under the bonnet. It's all software and sensors trying to make up for poor engineering.
>>53990089
>No more hate mongering
>radicals left and right trying to push out or public places everyone who disagrees with their own exact opinion
>>53990029
>Free public universities that recruit based on some kind global subject testing and special achievements would be harder to get into
We already have that example, a country where private universities are banned and entrance to public universities is through a global exam system.
It's called Greece, it has the worst education system and the lowest ranked students in all of Europe.
Stop being a delusional authoritarian socialist and get educated about the world and its history
>>53990155
what is the value of a high school diploma
>>53990089
>making college free devaluates higher education
Then why doesn't this logic apply for, you know, high school, or most of Northern Europe?
>>53990165
inb4 dieselgate
>>53990089
>free college means giving money to everyone
Strawman. People here in Poland go to shit tier colleges, are supported by parents, and then end up in Mc Donalds.
>take education seriously
Because people want to be hired. If you go to shit tier uni and have shit grades barely anyone will want to hire you and they will end up with nothing at all. Getting into great unis is actually hard and about pure merit. You might as well say that we should just kill 50% of worst students in any college to give people incentive why would they want to learn and get hired I mean.
Why educate people at all, better if everyone is a nigger except white.
>>53989516
> community college and get a two year degree and transfer to a state school.
Good luck retaking those 4 years at state school like a fucking faggot when you find out that college doesnt work like that.
>>53990168
If you contract debt to get a good college degree and can't pay it back (which is what happens as a matter of rule these days all the time btw), that means that degree already isn't worth as much as it is marketed.
Socializing college would just deflate the super-inflated prices back to reality.
>>53990165
""""""""German engineering"""""""" is the biggest fucking meme in the automotive industry. The Japs do it equally effective and way less complicated, while the Americans have stepped up their game massively in the last few years.
German brands, meanwhile, are making cars more and more complicated with no real benefit, but now they break after the warranty runs out so you'll just have to buy a new one instead, I guess.
Trump said in a rally he wanted to go to space more.
If he actually was serious about that I'd vote for him over Bernie, they're both fairly anti-establishment.
>>53990007
That list is really pathetic, I actually feel bad for you. Have fun in your delusions.
>dab witcher is technology becuz ids my faborite :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>53990188
>he doesn't know people are trying to get pre-dieselgate-recall cars on ebay because they run better than the "fixed" ones
>>53990089
>You MUST get into a 100k debt in order to be able to study, or else education will devaluate
'murica
>>53990167
>private universities are banned and entrance to public universities is through a global exam system.
Nobody told you to ban those, also great job picking 1 country out of most of Europe with free unis. Also the one being shittiest one at everything and PAY YOUR FUCKING DEBTS
>wanting to give people possibilities to educate is authoritarian
Better if everyone is bound to parents' wealth.
>>53990227
>NXP
what the FUCK is a Dutch company doing that high on any world list
>>53990188
>>53990165
>Your cars have 0 clever mechanics under the bonnet. It's all software and sensors trying to make up for poor engineering.
Damn you are right, we don't have clever software that cheats on emissions tests.
>daily reminder that not only VW a scapegoat, but that it was a nationwide industry collaboration to fuck up diesels senpai
>>53989762
This is generally what I believe, but I have great difficulty choosing between Cruz and Hilary. I lean towards Hillary, but she is borderline incompetent when trying to cover up her corruption. Cruz is a Canadian Bush. I'm not even sure why he's allowed to run for office.
>>53988542
>how to make any topic on /g/:
>1)mention word "technology"
>2)lay back and enjoy
well played OP
As for rest of you retards i hope u burn in your house today.
>>53990236
It's funny because our parents' generation was able to pay for college through summer jobs and minimal parental help, and their degrees weren't devalued at all.
All people really want is for tuition to be reasonable. Hell, I think people would be having more kids if $4k covered a year of college tuition today. Instead, you have to put away $600+/month per child starting at birth if you want their education to be covered when they reach that age.
>>53990325
kek
>>53990167
>using Greece as an example of anything
Greece was run by a military dictator until the fucking mid 70s, was massively decentralized so that shit couldn't happen again and has since struggled with corruption on every level due to the decentralized nature of everything.
Greece should not be used as a serious example of anything unless it's how fascism fucks up everything.
>>53990269
Reminder that Americans have never produced and will never produce anything even close to a fine piece of artistic engineering like pic related not even in a million years and in their dreams.
>inb4 lame sour grapes excuses
>>53990340
http://www.dollartimes.com/inflation/inflation.php?amount=20000&year=1970
>>53990325
You can help stop this.
>>>/qa/491113
>>53988605
this is so dumb
fascism supports technological growth the least
Whatever you choose, compare it to Trudeau. If it's not like that, you're good to go. Otherwise avoid like the worst kind of cancer unimaginable.
>>53989762
>>53988610
>>53989762
>>53990296
Cruz is an evangelical bush, even the GOP hates him, but Jeb! fucked up, so now they are stuck with him.
Personally, I think rank wise it would go something like this
1:Bernie
>only one to call out the NSA on spying, would stop the NSA from poisioning the tech well
2:Hillary
>shill, but wont enact mouthbreathing tech laws, at least comapred to
3: Cruz
>is anti-privacy, wants to fuck over silicon valley for TERRURUSTS, and sided with FBI in the iphone case.
4:trump
>for the sheer fact alone that many investment firms are forecasting that a trump presidency would result in a global economic downturn.
>>53990395
>fascism supports technological growth the least
Unless, you know, it's strong encryption.
>>53990360
b-but m-muh socialism boogeyman
>>53990371
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""German""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" engineering.
>>53990414
>a trump presidency would result in a global economic downturn.
b-b-but muh wall will actually FIX the economy
>>53990371
And it gets blown the fuck out around a track by a 100k sports car with an old-fashioned manual transmission and a truck engine.
>>53990325
What about
"pick one thing remotely related to technology and make a fucking general"
Because in the last weeks even fucking mousepads have had a general I mean this is stupid. We're going to get something like, shit. I don't know. /gg/?
>>53990439
for the lulz, some reading
https://gfs.eiu.com/Article.aspx?articleType=gr&articleId=2876
>>53990422
venezuela
>>53990415
>implying authoritarian governments support strong encryption
it's like you're cucking yourself
shiggy diggy doo
>>53990422
Well, to be fair, Greece wasn't much better under the communist either. Generally, the country has been fucked up since WWI (yes, fucking ONE) and letting them join Eurozone was probably the greatest economic mistake of all time.
Trump
Bernie
Shit I don't have to explain stuff to you. Also Bernie is Richard Stallman's choice.
>>53990470
>fascism
>not an authoritarian government
Do you know what fascism is?
>>53990433
>no argument
Didn't expect any anyway.
>>53990441
Challenge: find an American car anywhere in the Top Gear Power Lap Scoreboard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Top_Gear_test_track_Power_Lap_Times
>>53990519
>Top Gear test track
The Viper set 13 laptime records. Try to beat that.
![2016-tesla-model-s_100521225_h[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RmKTEOc.jpg "2016-tesla-model-s_100521225_h[1].jpg")
>>53990519
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>german
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
engineering
>>53990466
Denmark
>>53989049
>implying you make enough to care
Over regulation and taxation can hamper technological advancement just like crony capitalism.
My guess is a candidate who the Silicon Valley can influence will be just fine. So Bernie and Trump probably worst.
Proto-fascists or neoliberals, pick your poison. Communistic revolution when.
>>53990557
Tesla's just a meme, you know. It's just a matter of time 'till it goes under.
>>53988542
Neither because all of them are clowns put in a scapegoat position. The real power is in the hands of whichever companies who lobby congress harder.
There's a reason why presidential candidacy is a social media popularity contest now. Might as well just make president whoever of those four cunts have the most facebook likes.
Yeah yeah trump a fascist bernie a communist
You're forgetting the real threat: The Zulus
>>53990586
http://louderwithcrowder.com/socalists-to-bernie-sanders-shut-up/
>>53990519
>Jeremy Clarkson
>literally hates the USA but buys an American car
>can't find anything else to get upset about so he drives it through a town built in the 16th century before cars existed
>>53989806
proof that redditors come to stay here
Jeez, I thought it was just a memez but we actually have nunale cucklords
Kill yourself, nigger faggot
>>53988901
>The guy's an idiot, you just like him because he's a human meme who says crazy shit
He is no worse than any of the other candidates in that regard. Trump was praising Mussolini on twitter at some point, not realising it until he was told.
McAffee at least knows how a computer works. That's not something that any other politician can say (without needing to lie about it).
![kantyvkqgf6czfbrfgz9[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2B8TzEb.jpg "kantyvkqgf6czfbrfgz9[1].jpg")
>>53990611
>tesla is a meme
>tesla will go under
>>>/o/
325k preorders, with 1k down each, and growing. He just got a 325k loan, interest free. He just made $11.3B in one day without even showing the damn thing.
Plus, it will all come with autopilot standard.
>>53990629
b-b-butt socialism = welfare!
>>53990395
if anyone is fascist, then its Bernie. He literally sends his NEET armies to fight free speech.
>>53990155
>educated == smart
>>>/reddit/
>>53990629
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-bernie-sanders/what-can-we-learn-from-de_b_3339736.html
>>53989978
>Germany is ordoliberal
>ordoliberalism is the German variant of social liberism
How retarded are you?
Voting bernie? Wrong site cucks!!!
www.rebbit.com is the site you were looking for.
This is a trump controlled zone, MAGA!
>>53990179
Europeans with a degree get payed like 30k a year because there many more faggots with degrees.
Scarcity == good u fucking nigger
>>53990691
Nice meme.
>>53989806
Indeed it's not funny. I urge black people to stop murdering due to hate and racism.
>>53990724
>social liberalism = socialism
How retarded are YOU?
Social liberalism is considered centre-right, where a strong focus on social and economical rights are in focus. Socialism is red commie high taxes big government and redistribution of wealth bullshit.
>>53990737
What's with right wingers fascination with the cuckold fetish? Do they know that they're projecting?
>>53990743
>payed
>u
Also
>what is cost of living
Also also
>mfw my starting salary was 75k USD
>>53990746
>EPS on a startup
Nice mem
>>53989806
I agree, those niggers really need to stop killing each other or not because no one really cares other than politicians who just love these non-issues. When I say care I mean they want it to continue and become worse. It's the only way for them to get votes.
>>53990179
>Then why doesn't this logic apply for, you know, high school, or most of Northern Europe?
It does. Who thinks a diploma is enough school these days? It's the minimum required to not be looked at like a retarded. I know people from northern Europe with 16 years of college and half a dozen degrees. They don't make dick and end up coming here to make any decent wage. The problem is their work ethic is terrible and they don't last long despite being a hiring manager's wet dream on paper.
>>53988901
>hurr durr illegal mexicans and Islamic terrorism are not a real problem, however white privilege is
>>53990496
yes I do.
reread the posts in order, I'm arguing against fascism.
>>53990784
Cucking comes from the left, where people are taught that polygamy, open relationships and actual cuckolding are completely acceptable and even preferable to monogamous relationships, in some cases as "reparations" to block people.
I'm not making this up, check google, not a projection at all, just a reality of the regressive left.
>>53990784
It's the constant news about people loving basically to get stepped and shit on that are coming from the same side.
Like that person that "feels bad that they deported his rapist" I mean jesus christ how low can you go in life just open your butthole in the middle of the street will ya
>>53990663
>approving of a meaningful quote means you like fascism
Hitler liked animals. Guess I'm a fascit now.
>>53990792
>muh grammer
of course it is, because here, your specialty was more scarce than in Europe
That just proves my point
>>53990809
>Who thinks a diploma is enough school these days?
It's like this in the US as well, where education is expensive as fuck.
> I know people from northern Europe with 16 years of college and half a dozen degrees. They don't make dick and end up coming here to make any decent wage. The problem is their work ethic is terrible and they don't last long despite being a hiring manager's wet dream on paper.
Muh anecdotes.
I can do them too: My old boss started a software company after high school, and in my current company the product manager have no degree beyond high school.
>>53990823
Then you should read the post I responded to. I was pointing out that fascists don't generally tend to support strong encryption or other means of privacy.
>>53990827
>implying you don't want to watch your wife get impregnated by nigger seed
What an idiot you are.
>>53990861
>more scarce than in Europe
I _am_ European you idiot.
>>53990836
agreeing with a substantive component of the fascist platform would at least make you a fascist sympathizer. if you can't cop to that, then you're deluding yourself.
>>53990759
>Social liberalism is considered centre-right
Stopped reading there. If you really believe social liberalism is really right leaning, you need to re-educate yourself.
>>53990885
t. Mohammed Ahmed.
>>53990912
It is.
>>53990821
Islamic terrorism is only a problem because US and NATO funded extremist Islamic mujaheddin decades ago just because they were "anti-communists".
Also, guess who's super friends with Saudi Arabia and Turkey right now? That's right, the US!
And guess who's on the ground fighting ISIS for real instead of helping them? That's right, North Korea!
So go away with your boogeymen pls.
>>53990893
I agree but agreeing with "It's better to 1 day live as a lion than 1000 years as a sheep" doesn't make you a fascist.
>>53990918
>being named Mohammed Ahmed
>earning 75k USD and having education
Pick one.
All Mohammed Ahmeds are straight on welfare.
>>53990590
>projecting
>>53990821
>illegal mexicans
Legalize them, problem solved.
Deport them and you enter a whole world of pain. Pic related.
>islamic terrorism
Tell me again how entering a pissing contest with the only country seriously fighting Da'esh, namely Russia, will help against that.
>>53990929
>le Islamic terrorism was because of US
never mind the fact that Islam itself is a shit religion that spread through conquest and has like 6 factions trying to establish themselves as the figure head of Islam
they been killing themselves way before the advent of US, so stop with le religion of peace meme
and btw, were friends with Saudi Arabia because of oil
also,
>muslims aren't a problem right now in Europe
Look at swden and Germany pls, stop being deluded
>>53990869
as was I.
I'm arguing that fascist is authoritarian and doesn't support strong encryption.
please read.
>>53990944
Not the same guy, but just wanted to say that my boss is Iraqi. He earned his green card by working to the US Army in Iraq. He has a Master's in IT from an American university and is a pretty cool guy. Also looks very white, is tall and has green eyes and fair skin.
>>53991011
My post: >>53990415
Your post: >>53990470
Just admit you didn't even read.
>>53990943
okay, but what ideology or philosophy do you think that quote is pointing to?
if hitler said something like "treat all living things with the respect you wish to be given" then i would agree that you're just coincidentally quoting a guy. but that's clearly not the case here.
>>53991016
You're bragging about your boss being an ISIS infiltrator and stealing american jobs with his H1B visa on /g/?
wew lad
>>53991008
>Islam itself is a shit religion that spread through conquest and has like 6 factions trying to establish themselves as the figure head
Replace Islam with Christianity and that phrase remains true.
>they been killing themselves way before the advent of US, so stop with le religion of peace meme
Okay, if they are so bad, then how do you justify us giving them weapons and training them?
There is no way you can justify America's actions without contradicting yourself.
>blurring the distinction between middle easterners and muslims
Reminder that most Muslims as a matter of fact aren't Arabs.
Reminder that many Arabs are Christians.
>>53990977
>legalize them
stop, that just means there's an incentive for them to come here and live off of welfare
mas immigration would mean a bigger welfare state, and Democrats sure love them because they comprise of most of the leftie vote (because muh welfare)
there needs to be repercussions for committing a federal crime
I've never mentioned rushia, the fuck r u talking about
Trump wants to get along with Putin btw
>>53988542
trump, clinton and cruz ok
bernie the worst (completely anti-GMO, completely against nuclear energy, the ISS and the large hadron collider)
>>53991053
>H1B visa
>green card
Wow, what did you use to embarrass yourself before the Internet was invented?
>>53991053
>ISIS infiltrator
so a person that infiltrates ISIS?
do mexican schools not teach you english?
>>53991069
>welfare
What fucking welfare do illegals get? I was under the impression that they were not getting any at all and in fact stealing jobs from americans because they were willing to work for $2 an hour and shit....
>>53991069
>immigrants live off welfare
>immigrants steal our jobs
The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
>>53991089
>>53991092
W-wait.... Did you guys really think I was serious?
>>53991047
you can argue it was only in the context of fascim, but given just the quote, people would think it's be about being a successful alpha and not human trash like those welfare leeches
>>53991113
1) have you seen the 200 or so other posts here? there are people being just as retarded as you're acting.
2) read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law and stop thinking you're nailing the humor thing on the internet.
>>53991113
Oh no it's time for I was just pretending man images
>>53991082
He isn't against GMOs he just doesn't trust the motives of corps, also sauce on the last two.
>>53991124
>1) have you seen the 200 or so other posts here? there are people being just as retarded as you're acting.
I think you're exaggerating and being overly defensive.
>2) read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law and stop thinking you're nailing the humor thing on the internet.
I wasn't even trying to be particularly funny.
>>53991128
Indeed
>>53988645
>le American intervention maymay
Shouldn't have pulled us out of our isolationist stance if you didn't want to be world policed by the best, Citizen
>>53991138
https://twitter.com/SDzzz/status/715355538331033601/video/1
>>53991033
I'm so fucking lost now.
What point are you trying to argue?
>>53991059
christianity is irrelevant, and even then christianity has gone through the Reformation (thus why you don't see Christians killing people for criticizing Jesus)
I'm don't agree with US fucking it up
I'm just saying US fucked it up more, but it was fucked up before
>>53991152
>I wasn't even trying that hard
>I was only acting stupid
and i'm the one who's overly defensive?
>>53991176
>still responding
Yeah, you are.
>>53990743
>scarcity is good
>fewer capable people is good
>a less educated populace is good
>a less able populace is good
>i'm more interested in my own wellbeing than the wellbeing of the species
>i'm an anti-humanist race traitor
>>53991122
the whole point of quoting something famous is to evoke the broader context without using as many words. any retard can quote the Golden Rule from a dozen different ideologies, religions, etc... but choosing to quote Gandhi has a different effect than quoting the bible or quoting the quran or quoting Jediism.
>>53991094
given the context of legalization of illegals, welfare is plausible, so kill yourself for not understanding
>>53991108
Yes, some companies choose to hire illegals for lower wages, is that astounding?
also, see above for why I said welfare, cuck
>>53991204
lol okay dude.
>>53991168
I pointed out that fascism doesn't support technological growth when it comes to encryption.
You responded to my post saying "hurr durr like fascists would support encryption double kek"
You just repeated my post and then went on pretending I had said the opposite.
>>53991138
>>53991163
My bad, he wasn't talking about the LHS but the Superconducting Super Collider which was cancelled in 1993, and was going to be much bigger than the LHS.
>>53991213
>welfare is plausible
I mean, you're not even providing shelter to your homeless people. How the fuck are you going to give welfare to a bunch of people who aren't even citizens?
You're just making up giants there, Don Quixote.
>>53989731
youre kidding right
>>53991169
>muh reformation
>implying christians didn't start killing themselves after that, only stopping after WW2
>>53991210
scarcity is good in context of degrees because people who get it have most likely invested themselves and care about getting such degree
when you have your average retard paid their schooling for, it creates an abundance of potential employees, and companies will choose Jamal just because they can pay him less
>fewer capable people
see above
Level of investestment is way lower when you can get it for free
also, you're implying a lot of things there
non sequitur
>>53991253
I'm against illegal immigration, cuck
and see Sweden and Germany importing millions of refugees as a source of the idea that the gov cares more about refugees than its own people
>>53991322
>the gov't
The Swedish and the German people themselves outspokenly chose to take them in, you mouthbreathing retard.
>>53991285
nothing to do with original argument
kill urselfz u just lost
>>53991211
Yeah, but the quote was unnacompanied by its source, so that broader context is viable
>>53991322
Both Sweden and Germany actually have welfare programs (and those refugees aren't illegal either).
We're talking about the US here, welfare systems are virtually non-existing for non-citizens because HURR DURR MUH TAX MONEY.
Legalising illegals != granting them citizenships.
You're just inventing non-existing problems for the sake of hating brown people.
>>53991290
>when you have your average retard paid their schooling for, it creates an abundance of potential employees, and companies will choose Jamal just because they can pay him less
And why can't they just hire a guy after high school if hiring some "Jamal" who can't apparently do shit is a great idea for them? Free colleges allow for easy recognition of who's potentially good and who is not based just on what college it is and what the guy's grades are.
Can we make the reading of this thread obligatory for all /pol/tards?
Damn, they got #rekt good in here!
>>53991356
>the refugees aren't illegal
The treaty of Dublin states that foreign refugees must stay in the first EU country they land in. Most of the refugees traveled through multiple EU nations to get to Germany.
>>53991350
>chose to take them in
only the gov has a say, and majority or Germans hate Merkel for her stupid shit u cuck, get ur Facts right
>>53991356
but legalizing them gives them incentives, leading to more welfare
The problem is legalization, not legal immigrantion, which I'm OK with if it's not done in major numbers
>>53989762
>Furthermore, the US tech industry is dominant because the top universities in the world are overwhelmingly American (roughly 18 out of the top 20 for example).
Except that those top US tech industry uses H1B1 visas for labor , and just use Universities for R&D. U.S Tech Industries are globalists who don't care about American's interests. Fuck off.
>>53991351
>Yeah, but the quote was unnacompanied[sic] by its source, so that broader context is viable
what do you mean by viable?
also you evoke the context regardless of whether you provide formal attribution. it's called allusion.
>>53991419
You can thank Israel for that.
>>53991372
they won't because the standard is college education
and they choose Jamal just because they know he can do the tasks they want of him even in a mediocre way
No, free colleges just introduce the incompetent/ mediocre class into the schools,
Here in US, if you really care and are poor, you'll get federal aid anyways
the barrier the US colleges have deletes that aforementioned class to some degree
>>53991420
>but legalizing them gives them incentives, leading to more welfare
This makes absolutely no sense. Why would there suddenly be more welfare all by itself?
>The problem is legalization, not legal immigrantion, which I'm OK with if it's not done in major numbers
Legalization = legal immigration. We're talking about people who literally sneak into the US so they can do manual labour for 2 bucks an hour.
They're not coming because they receive welfare (there is no welfare to be received). They're coming because they want to work for two bucks an hour.
If you want to stop that, you should either crack down hard on people employing illegals OR you could grant them legal status so they can legally demand higher wages. Both cases leads away from the current scheme of social dumping you have now.
>>53991419
Please keep up with the politics. Germany and Sweden and a bunch of other countries have agreed to take the load of countries such as Greece.
Also, the Dublin treaty fell apart last summer so did Schengen. You cannot travel without your passport anymore.
>>53991459
I meant to say the because there wasn't a source, other interpretations would happen
so, now I'm supposed to know who's author every single quote was?
>>53991488
How can you call someone incompetent if he does everything one wants from him? Mediocre doesn't mean bad. If Jamal actually spends his time in college learning something valuable and getting hired it's good. Would it be better were he to stay a nigger?
Also speaking from experience the best free colleges are still besieged by many employers while the lower ones get way less attention. If you are afraid of Jamal then show them that you are better than him.
>Here in US, if you really care and are poor, you'll get federal aid anyways
Are they really enough after these stories of student debt? Will "really care" mean that you have to do twice better than someone who can actually pay?
>>53991521
>be me, a Mexican
>am not qualified enough to legally enter us because I'm shit and have no skills, all I did was sell drugs in my youth
>shit, it legal to enter US now, here I come
>shit, turns out everybody who was also filtered by the immigration process is doing the same as I
>finally, I'm in the US, I don't speak English though, better go to areas with people like me so that I can get by
>fuck, there not enough minimum wage jobs, how are people like me supposed to live in this country
>oh shit, some Democrat I saying hell support us if he gets elected
>we cant vote, but we have a voice
>turns out we also can get food stamps and federal aid if we have more children
>>53991228
It's not my fault your English is shit
Which ever one is not too concerned with terrorists.
>>53991594
just look at companies hiring incompetent """" programmer"""" indians just because they can pay thrm a third your wage
And yes, if you're poor, you can succeed, just go to community college for 2 years, work your ass off, get at least 1 scholarship, and you'll be able to pay off your loans in no time
>>53989238
Of course.
One career academic with no accomplishments supporting another.
>>53991638
>suddenly magic welfare because imaginary evil democrats
See, this is where I stop following you.
Also, if you're implying that USA only need skilled labour, then you're wrong. There is a reason why the illegals are coming, and it is because there is an opportunity.
If there were no jobs for them, they would stop coming or resort to crime to feed themselves. But the drug market is pretty saturized.
>>53991641
Only took you 25 minutes to coin that comeback, huh?
>Sanders - full-on SJW who will force workplaces to embrace more political correctness and thus stifle the workplace in favor of emotional bullshit
>Clinton - full-on SJW who will force workplaces to embrace more political correctness and thus stifle the workplace in favor of emotional bullshit
>Cruz - moderate SJW who will encourage workplaces to embrace more political correctness and thus stifle the workplace in favor of emotional bullshit
Trump is the only candidate who cares about logic, thus he is the best President for tech.
>>53991530
>because there wasn't a source, other interpretations would happen
only if a reasonably educated person (generally up to and including high school) wouldn't be able to recognize the source. and deciding to express a sentiment in a particular way (in other words, choosing to quote a fascist) is seen as poor form. people and organizations can taint a quote by associating their agendas with it, which is why people don't use the lion/sheep quote unless they're trying to associate with fascists.
as for what you're supposed to know, you're only really expected to know the origins of the quotes you actually use. if you just hear it, i doubt anyone would hold it against you that you never learned these fairly famous (or infamous) quotes in high school. but if you're going to suggest to us that a quote resonated so strongly with you that you remembered the wording and repeat it to others, then it's fair game to assume that you knew what you were saying.
but it would surprise me if high school graduates generally didn't know this quote about the lion/sheep, because i wasn't a good student in high school, (barely) graduated almost 10 years ago, and i knew it without needing to look it up.
it can be argued that quoting other sources is a pretty advanced rhetorical device. or if not advanced, then certainly powerful. if you're unable to be responsible for the subtext that goes into quoting gandhi or churchill or hitler or whomever, then don't recite quotes.
but you're missing out. alluding to a whole other topic with a really well-chosen quote can be really effective in a discussion/speech/paper/argument. it honestly only takes a cursory look to see where quotes come from, too. it's not like i'm asking you to write a dissertation on each quote - just see whether the person who said it was arguably a controversial figure.
>>53991691
>Democrats don't pander to minorities by offering them some kind of welfare of just recognition
what is Sanders, Hillary, obongo, every Democrat ever
>>53991672
>And yes, if you're poor, you can succeed, just go to community college for 2 years, work your ass off, get at least 1 scholarship, and you'll be able to pay off your loans in no time
>enabling welfare queen professors with tax payer money to work for a company that hires based on pieces of paper only to get laid off for Habib or an loltechgurrrrrl
>>53991672
hey dude your keyboard is broken it keeps repeating quotation marks.
>>53991739
that's the standard, doesn't mean I agree with it
>>53991737
You seem to be completely unaware of how the US political system actually works. You do know that the president can't just do whatever the fuck he wants, right? He has to go through congress and the senate, both which have a majority of republican members right now that very actively try to stop whatever comes from the white house.
>>53991672
>just look at companies hiring incompetent """" programmer"""" indians just because they can pay thrm a third your wage
Maybe it's time to step up your game. Nobody of the software engineering/comp sci equivalent college degrees in my country really has trouble with retards stealing his jobs. Don't expect to get paid extraordinarily just because you paid for your college and then somehow made it to the end. Real good job offers end up with real good people (or lucky ones) regardless whether there are muh indians or not.
>And yes, if you're poor, you can succeed, just go to community college for 2 years, work your ass off, get at least 1 scholarship, and you'll be able to pay off your loans in no time
So basically there is a possibility of a poor person succeeding ,he just needs to work 10 times harder and hope nothing unexpected happens that will set him back. Meanwhile judging everyone as fairly as possible with free colleges and recruitment based on merit is bad.
>>53991691
>If there were no jobs for them, they would stop coming or resort to crime to feed themselves.
There are jobs for them because companies advertise positions at half the salary any sane person would consider and cry that they can't find any qualified individuals in country.
>>53988798
if you're not a femanon then you are a fucking beta bitch
>>53991760
>>53991737
I mean, it took Obama all his veto power to get the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act through, and it's literally the first thing whatever Republican candidate gets elected is going to tear down while screaming gutturally "MMMMAAAAAAH TAX MONAAAAYZZ"
>>53991693
Exactly this.
Think about what tech looks like today: "inclusiveness" and "diversity" are literally more important than the technology itself. Every department has a representative of each race. It is okay to exclude and discriminate against white people because "systemic oppression". A Hillary or Sanders government would be full of gay, black, retarded trannies with PTSD from being stare raped.
>>53991781
>There are jobs for them because companies advertise positions at half the salary any sane person would consider and cry that they can't find any qualified individuals in country.
Which leads back to the point:
Either punish companies that do this
...or legalse the immigrants so they can organise and demand minimum wages or tariffs or whatever.
Which I've been arguing all along.
>>53991779
If you're a single white guy good luck getting scholarships or pel grants. Assuming your parent's didn't lie their asses off on their taxes.
Source: I was raised by a single mother making ~$25k a year, always denied pel grants watching my friends from six figure + families get more grant money than they knew what to do with.
>>53991760
existant welfare systems are enough for current minorities
Electing more Democrats means the possible pushing of more programs and the ideological shift of the average person
Just look at canada, they're all weed dood lmaos and elected justin Trudeau, the cuck that is now importing a lot of muslims and also wants to legalize weed because it's 2016
I honestly didnt bother learning shit about Cruz.
Trump has a low corporate tax rate, so American tech companies might grow the most. But Trump and Sanders I imagine are against the work visa program that prevents companies from hiring easily. Trump is for warrantless wiretaps, while Sanders and Clinton are against it. Trump is against encryption, Clinton is wavering on encryption, and Sanders is for encryption. Sanders corporate tax rate is too high.
i'm voting for clinton anyway for unrelated reasons.
>>53991799
My insurance premiums are now greater than my house payment
t-thanks obama
