What are some uncomfortable truths about tech?
pic related
if you know anything about tech everyone expects you to fix any and every problem for them
they also assume you know how to hack facebook accounts
How average people think that building a PC means soldering the parts together and you're a super tech wiz.
>>53957486
Most tech these days is shit built on shit.
It's a miracle that anything runs at all and that people don't die all the time.
>>53957617
people will also blame you for computer problems in an attempt to make it your responsibility to fix it for them (they think you owe them that)
the truths:
>you will be obsolete/replaceable real quick
>sometimes you might get skipped on because the other guy sucks up to the boss more / is more social / more ruthless and willing to lie to clients
>linux will never be popular because normies hate anything that reminds them they don't know everything / not that smart
>>53957486
must be why supercomputers and servers use GNU/Linux
>>>/v/
The technology we create is most likely going to fucking destroy us someday and there's nothing we can do to stop it.
>>53957486
This
This.
>>53957486
Everyone uses Windows when Linux is better.
Pretty much every piece of tech that isn't shit is overloaded and overpriced thanks to a bunch of useless marketing features.
>>53959184
All this positive shit and yet it's still irrelevant.
>>53960023
fuck this gay earth
>>53960023
Because>>53959028
>>53957486
that its an industry built upon consumerism, and that what we have now is not sustainable
>>53959184
"Just werks" HA
It's the other way around with Windows and Linux.
>>53959184
kek'd on "flat design".
Inspite of having access of a limitless sea of information at our fingertips, this is the best shitposting we are to be subject to.
>>53959184
Flat is better than gradients everywhere
everyone copypastes from stack overflow
>>53959184
>linux
>flat design
>how it is updated
is the joke that Linux is only meant to be distributed, and unlike BSDs, the Linux kernel doesn't come with a WM or a package manager?
>>53960082
poorfag detected
why don't you get a job so you can buy cool stuff too instead of complaining about it?
>>53961520
be more subtle with your trolling
>>53957486
windows 7 will become the new windows xp
there are laptops worse than macbooks
>>53960989
Then where are those who are posting on Stack Overflow copy pasting from?
>>53961716
other stack overflow posts dipshit
>>53957617
>mfw familiar congratulate me and see me as some kind of wizard because I google stuff and know how to buy stuff from eBay
I mean I know is kinda a pain in the ass since we are not in the usa but come on
People automatically assume you are a nerd.
They think your knowledge of tech stuff is cool but it's not exactly gonna get you laid.
>>53962000
Getting laid shouldn't be a major concern of yours. It's not as good as it's hyped up to be. Also, I've been a nerd forever and I didn't exactly hide it to get laid. If you are so desperate to get your dick wet, it's actually not that hard. That, or I had a streak of luck in my youth.
>They think your knowledge of tech stuff is cool
I kind of stopped believing this. You wouldn't believe the hostility when you start talking about GNU/Linux. When I was still primarily using Windows I could still shoot the shit with normies and get along, but now they actually seem to hate me in a matter of seconds. They get irrational and angry and start shouting. They say they don't need to look like a leet hacker and all this stupid bullshit.
>>53958346
This
>>53957659
>Be in high school.
>Be part of the tech club.
>Annoying kid joins tech club.
>"Isn't it so cool, that we are like the only kids in school that know how to program?"
>Literally no one can program. We are a hardware group in fucking high school
>See kid in library.
>Asks for a copy of an anime I had.
>Pops in thumb drive.
>Girl shows up.
>Hey watcha doin anon.
>Kid replies "Oh just complicated data transfer."
>Facebook machines used in science
>Ease of use: Depends
>Linux just werks
Infographic is a shit
>>53963834
>be in every school level ever
>>Okay class if I can get this projector to work...
>teacher fiddles with it for fifteen minutes
>everybody is too beta/hate school to help them
>help them
>>How smart you are anon.
>get called on to connect VCR, set up projector, change background when someone puts gay porn etc
>reap no benefits later
>>53957486
1st truth about tech.
>linux is not tech, it is a language. It does not belong on /g/
2nd truth about tech
>See the 1st rule
>>53963924
>Plug device into computer
Winmeme:
>Have to go to manufacturer's website or god forbid use a CD
>Download .exe
>Uncheck "install McAfee Trial" and "install Ask.com toolbar"
>Have to restart your computer
or even worse
>Download .sys
>Have to fuck around in your device manager to find the device you're looking for (something that non-technical people can't do)
>Click through a bunch of non-obvious menus
>Point it to the .sys folder
>Install
Linux
>It just werks
>At worst, you will need to install one thing from your package manager
>>53959184
I'm using Windows 10 for my internship becausem uh Visual Studio.
Holy shit it doesn't work well.
I installed a clean install of Windows 10 with a legit Windows 10 key.
When I press Shut down this computer it just takes me to the login screen. Only way I can shut down my computer is by pressing restart and then holding the power button down at bios.
I have to update each time I'm shutting down and when I boot up it has to revert back those updates.
It's B R O K E N
>>53965101
>Works on my machine
>>53965061
Well, sure, and I love how little hassle it is to install things to linux AS LONG AS YOU KNOW HOW.
The first ten times (over as many years) I tried using linux on my main pc I spent a pitiful amount of time trying to memorize the "getdir -h tar unball" bullshit needed to do something extremely simple.
If you don't know exactly what to do, it's pain.
But yes, it does just work, as long as you dont fuck with it. I've installed linux on technological retards' machines and they never complain or ask as much as when they had winblows.
>most people just use their machines for web, docs and music
>>53965190
>tfw windows users are using that argument unironically now
Only OS X or Linux works now a days.
To me personally I have linux on 2 systems. One is a data junk draw of sorts and the other is a toy. Linux has always been a play thing to me. I prefer a bsd based environment. For most things I use windows as it's become basically a standard. It has been for 10+ years.
>>53959184
why is babby red
>>53965564
Linuxtards think that it's cool if computer is hard to use. That's why they use Arch and rave about Vim.
>>53959184
you can't even customize OSX by color anymore, only the top bar, nothing else
i hate macs
>>53965808
YFW
>>53960087
>It's the other way around with Windows and Linux.
subjective, faggot
>>53965211
>AS LONG AS YOU KNOW HOWsudo apt-get install (program)
wow that sure was hard
>>53957486
The new generation are too used to tablet/smartphone IT JUST WERKZ to develop adequate computer skills like previous generations did unfucking DOS and Wangblows
>>53965422
>>53957486
>Muh Ciscos, Muh MS Muh Linux
Pajeet can do any technical or support job you can and cloud can provide hardware cheaper then you can.
Your only hope is to become a talented programmer or business analyst contract management guy
>>53957486
There is literally nothing wrong with using Windows 10.
>>53965990
>There is literally nothing wrong with using Windows 10.
For fucks sake, rajesh
Assuming you have common sense installed, viruses are of little concern, and unless you pirate executable your chances are basically 0.
Windows update is a bigger threat to your system than security exploits, assuming you are not a significant target.
windows 8 was fine, even good, windows 10 is a huge threat to everything.
Windows and linux both have different uses, while mac OS doesn't at all (doesn't mean it doesn't have it's advantages)
>>53965940
A lot of time it's just not that easy.
>>53965834
>>53965834
This picture from the internet is the fact! I'm a linux sysadmin and I still prefer OS X on desktop.
>>53966022
Yes, I'm a paid Indian shill on a Mongolian cave painting bulletin board system.
Keep using Windows 7 and enjoy that ransomware.
Daily reminder to ignore underpaid desperate indian shills like >>53966075
that spam /g/
>>53966082
Sadly, not everything is in the repo, and sometimes adding another isn't an option or just doesn't work, especially on ARM.
But yeah, when it works, it's really great, better than windows or OSX.
>>53959028
>>53959184
The main issue is that Windows is used from young age (schools/home/work) and it's a bit harder to show people how some things are better/improved in Linux. That's why I love this self building kits (rip off for parents and schools but good idea for kids) where kids can assemble their Pi's and play ("program") basic stuff with it.
>>53959184
>Linux
>just werks
except when you have that one driver that's totally broken
see: e1000e driver bug
>>53957486
>What are some uncomfortable truths about tech?
All that extra RAM and processing power is being used by bloat.
Computers barely do anything now that they didn't do 10 years ago
>>53957774
Its chinkshit, or as I like to call it chink + shit
>>53966087
Done
>>53957617
this
There are people who are wrong on the internet and I need to correct every last one of them.
>>53959184
>just werks
Except the 99% when it doesn't. Then you google the problem just to find your question on a forum last updated in 2013 without solution.
>>53966477
Oh you mean you Google the issue from your working Windows OS machine(or android phone if you are a real poorfag) to try and solve the issue with your best most awesome OS equipped machine.
Just felt it need to be clarified.
>>53965009
Linux is a language?
shieeeeeeet
so is that what the book "The Linux Language Second Edition" by Dennis Richard and Brian Kernvalds is about?
Nothing on /g/ is actually technology. Some new breakthrough in how we use video cards to calculate something is technology. Posting nVidia and AMD specs and arguing is not technology.
Saying how we could use existing cell phone technology to emulate 95% of space station functions is technology. Arguing about apps and iOS vs. Android and posting homescreens is not technology.
Posting what you're doing with Linux or Windows is technology. Arguing whether Linux or Windows is better is not technology.
It's just /g/ - Consumer Arguments and Brand Wars, it has nothing to do with tech.
>>53965190
Works on my machine™
>>53964977
Keep going what are you doing
>>53966040
99% of the time it is
>>53959184
>has games
>many
Stopped reading this biased autistic garbage right there
>>53959184
osx has more games than linux
how the fuck babby ease of use is in red
osx has wine and native adobe programs
on osx you can have brew or macports too (so 3)
>>53966584
>It's just /g/ - Consumer Arguments and Brand Wars, it has nothing to do with tech.
Here fucking here.
>>53958346
There's also no reason why we should stop it, let's embrace it instead
>>53967143
Depends on what you're doing. For me it recently was like 30% of the time.
>>53957486
>Debian Stretch
>>53967160
It has 25% of all games on steam and 40% of the top 100 games on steam. The chart is wrong, though. Mac OS X is slightly ahead of linux. IIRC they have ~30% of all steam games, I haven't counted up how many of the top 100 games OS X has yet.
>>53967217
what in the world were you installing that you couldn't find in the repos 30% of the time? Were you running some just-born-yesterday distro with tiny repos like solus or something?
>>53967160
>tux racer
>tf2
>that freetard pseudohistorical rts that will never ever be released
I just named many Linux games off the top of my head there, and I'm sure there are plenty of others
Yet another paid Microsoft FUD shit thread.
Guys, just report this shit. This is not worth even fucking replying to.
Microsoft, give it up. You've lost.
>>53967261
dang it anons
how about BioShock Infinite, Borderlands 2, Spec Ops: The Line, CS: GO, Dota2, Alien: Isolation, and the Portal series for linux natively, and the rest of the bioshock series, skyrim, and dishonored working well under WINE? That's just what I have in my library.
>>53958346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
>>53959184
you forgot
>industry software support
Linux falls flat, I'd try it out but doesn't even support a fraction of the software i need for work
>>53965834
ftfy
>>53965422
>Costly to create closed source applications
Dropped
He doesn't even understand what GNU/Linux and free software are about
>>53967229
>>53967261
OSX still has more. Whoever made that chart is a retard. Linux has very few games. Period.
>>53965940
Don't forget to turn on your connection with iplink.
>>53967229
>what in the world were you installing that you couldn't find in the repos 30% of the time? Were you running some just-born-yesterday distro with tiny repos like solus or something?
Rasbian.
SMplayer, NCDC(?), kodi and PiFM was things that weren't simply available from the repo.
>>53967310
You can't count shit that runs under WINE though or else you may as well say that Splatoon runs on Windows because of Dolphin
>>53958346
When you as a kid managed to thinker something amazing - which in a way you can call technology - you done it with the purpose of extinction of your species in mind?
Now humanity is a child that tinkered toys, and it would've not been your fault a retarded bully kid stole your toy and poked his eye out.
>>53965990
Except most of the firms I have contracted for won't use it for security concerns.
You also can't turn of updates (at least not in system) for the standard version which is a lot of business. That is not something you want as any update could break a system.
If you ever want a job in a business just make sure you mention stability stability stability.
>>53967604
Wine is not emulation dipass
>>53967553
>Linux has very few games.
Except for every Steam game
>>53965101
Only a retard would have problems like yours seriously.. it amaze me when I read replies like yours how is it possible to be this incompetent?
>>53966222
You only need to look at a modern UEFI system to see that it is fully functional without the bloat.
>>53967625
For all practical purposes and especially as it relates to this discussion it may as well be. You can't count shit that you can just about coax and cajole into getting to the start screen in WINE before they crash as "working in Linux".
>>53966471
Cunningham's law. The best way to get the answer on the internet isn't to post a question but post an incorrect answer.
>>53967644
Should start it in a WM for maximum performance
>>53967628
What are you on dude? Is it fun to tell lies over the internet to people who know you're full of shit?
>>53967688
Who gives a fuck. That's not a new title. It works fine. My point stands.
People who can't read WINE console errors and install missing libraries should pay for CrossOver and ask them for support.
https://www.codeweavers.com/
>>53957486
secure systems will never be available to the average consumer until a working understanding of cryptography is had by the average person.
>>53967644
Video games are for kids with incompetent parents and for adults with autism
>>53959028
fake as shit, there's no such thing at ncta
>>53967702
You know you can use WINE to install Windows Games, right?
>>53967739
I know. I got the game for free and made it work just to prove to /g/ that it can be done.
>>53967753
Do you even Statistics?
Everyone has Windows. People on average are pretty stupid. Windows users on average are stupid.
>>53959184
Price for Windows 10 as of now it's still free.
"Used in science" is misleading. There's probably more than one researcher that uses windows to run QM or some other quantitative analysis software.
Teaches something about computers is also deceiving. I learned some shit about computers when building a gaming computer. Mostly cable management in tight spots and price-quality ratio, but still.
WINE? Seriously?
Windows also has an app store since Win8
Windows has third party terminals that support unicode
How is flat design even a point like seriously?
New OS X releases are free, Apple started that trend among commercial operating systems
There's a fraction of OS X's codebase released under the BSD license, so you can get an idea of how stuff like Darwin is written. Since you aren't making a distinction between Linux and GNU/Linux, I'd say it's enough to compare both kernels.
If Linux had half as good support for muh gaymes as Windows does, I'd run Linux on every computer I own tho. As of now, just my laptop.
>>53965211
>most people just use their machines for web, docs and music
Not sure why people use this as an argument against Linux as you can make a Linux machine that literally does only that and does it fast/well/cheap and you can't do that with Windows/OSX.
>>53967866
>Price for Windows 10 as of now it's still free.
>free
webm.
host/1b000/vid.webm
Not really an uncomfortable truth, but:
If Windows supported all the Desktop-Environments that Linux does then a lot more people would just use Windows instead of Linux or at least things would be different.
>>53967807
To begin with, the scale is blown up. The difference between them is rather small.
And second, there's seriously no such thing at ncta.com. I don't know what does knowing statistics have to do with anything. Those numbers are pulled from someone's anus hoping that maybe someone as gullible as you with only a vague notion of statistics will believe them because it sounds "right".
>>53967866
>Price for Windows 10 as of now it's still free.
Not really, it never was.
It's a free upgrade for older iterations of Windows, which require paying for activation, either explicitly, or implicitly when buying a pre-build computer or laptop. There is no legal way to get Windows for free other than MSDNAA.
Windows for gaymz (because driver support and directx)
OSX best for development and audio video editing
Linux best for servers and some science stuff, best for development if you're too poor for OSX.
>>53967628
>every Steam game
That's an outright lie and you know it.
Also almost every game will have worse performance on Linux because the drivers are shit.
>>53967919
>>53967904
There's no price tag, regardless.
>>53967922
It totally works with Daz-activated copies of Win 7. I can safely say that I paid nothing for my Win 10 digital entitetlement. I'm sure they'll make it more available in the future. With everything that implies in the long run.
>>53967994
>osx on a supercomputer
>>53968003
I was referring to legal ways.
Also, from what I've heard, it works for some and it doesn't for others. Either way, you need some hack. Installing a Linux/BSD distro does not require jumping through hoops like that.
Linux has <1% desktop PC market share
Desktop PCs are going to be extinct in 5 years
>>53968050
You said the same thing 5 years ago.
>>53968003
I don't like to pay with my personal info.
>>53967967
Muh framerates.
With new Kernel comes new AMD drivers
>>53968026
My point stands. Retards don't use Linux on daily basis, because the infrastructure maintenance requires a brain. On the other hand, people use Android. Does it count?
>>53957486
moose's law was a consequence of management, not some natural law governing technology.
>>53968050
Negro, you know that most Linux users block spying scripts, right? That's why Linux don't show on these phony graphs. They collect no data from Linux Desktops because they don't send data to the websites keeping track of your current OS.
>>53968050
To put it more clearly. This 1% are retards using Linux Mint and other noob friendly distros that serve adds.
windows: pay with personal info
osx: pay with money
linux: pay with bugs and glitches
>>53967654
:^)
In all seriousness I've only installed Microsoft products on the laptop, I'm even using Edge.
>>53961520
Why dont u shut up? Everyone has a right to have an oppinion so take your make-murica-great-again shit someplace else. I suggest reddit feminist threads, your oppinions would be more relevant there
>>53968122
Oh damn this is so true
Linux is a slow piece of shit of an OS, stop defending it. WINE?? Are you mentally retarded, that program crashes the second you try to run a CPU-intensive program such as Premiere Pro or Avid
>>53968122
>windows: pay with personal info
>osx: pay with money and personal info
>linux: pay with bugs and glitches
Fixed.
>>53968325
>Linux is a slow piece of shit of an OS
Linux is the fastest OS in existence. You should stop using slow Unity and use something that is actually blazing fast.
>>53968332
1. it just performs a search.
2. disable spotlight if you care about it.
3. same exists on linux, for example ubuntu dash.
>>53968341
Who the fuck cares if you're window manager runs 1 second faster than someother?? That is, irl, irrelevant. I'm talking about proffesional work here. Yeah, sure, people who use computers for Word and Excell ought to use linux, but for things such as video editing, modelling etc linux is a no-go. (Please fuck off with the "Blender beats everything" bullshit, it's much slower in rendering frames than cinema4d, maya etc)
>>53968439
>just disable NSA if you care about it
>>53968442
>modelling is a no go
What the fuck are you talking about you ignorant retard? Real Modeling software is Linux exclusive.
http://ambermd.org/
Planned obsolescence of course
>>53968468
Hi, fellow polandbro, who's into proteins.
>>53968442
>it's much slower in rendering frames than cinema4d, maya etc
Do you have any proofs to back that up?
>>53968468
I'm talking about 3D animations, not the science stuff. Of course you will use linux for science!!!
>>53968458
if you can disable dash we can disable spotlight
>>53957659
And this happen with Linus, and everyone get baited. Shit is real.. Shit is real
>>53968489
Funny thing. I came back to /g/ after a long time of absence. I had work do to and I still kind of have.
I'm actually into RNA.
>>53968498
>if i pretend hard enough i can pretend i'm not using a triple applel/nsa/ms botnetOS
>>53968515
Nucleotides are fine too!
But your theme is pretty bad. Is that lxde?
Linux is the best kernel by far, and also the best operating system. All cons of linux boil down to lack of third party software.
If you've ever taken part in a "Windows vs. Linux" argument you're retarded. Double-retarded if you've used the word "freetard" or "botnet".
>>53968497
>>53968497
Why do you want to make 3D animations? Are you a plebeian? Do you even code?
>>53968548
It's MATE with high contrast theme. I don't give a fuck about themes anymore. It's black and white, it's simple, it works. I don't have time to rice my desktop. I think I will reinstall my entire system in 2020.
>>53959184
Windows has literally all of those, makes me wonder if whoever made the graphic actually has ever used Windows 10
trendy video card fags are the worst
>>53967573
Yeah that figures. That's all more or less Raspberry Pi specific stuff, though. Except kodi. I think the xbmc is still in the repos, but it didn't it change to kodi relatively recently? Debian is a stable OS, which is stable in the "packages will never change" sense, not the "no crashes" sense, although not crashing is usually a benefit.
>>53967604
The games I listed, I listed for a reason. Every one of them runs flawlessly under WINE.
>>53967904
>1KiB UDP packet "decrypts" to two PNG screenshots
>>53968727
Windows is just about the only one it's actually accurate on.
>>53968870
There goes your mobile transfer cap.
>>53968870
The traffic analysis one is crap, too. It came from a Czech news site that's incredibly well known for falsifying information to get clicks. The sites Wikipedia article mentions its lack of credibility repeatedly.
>mods still haven't deleted this paid Microsoft shill thread
You mods do know there are rules against paid advertising/shilling/trolling, right?
>>53959184
I agree with most of the info in that chart expect osx's ease of use, It's better then windows.
>>53968910
Mods were paid off. Nowhere is safe.
Save us RMS
>>53957486
Picture should say arch, most Linux distros just werk.
Why does microsoft waste it's time trying to convert people on an imageboard? Are they that starved for developers?
>>53968046
Unless we're talking about arch, a distro that has to be installed with a guide and has no support for most unpopular hardware.
>>53968838
No, only PIFM is Pi or even ARM specific.
SMplayer was in the repo, but too outdated to work. Would need to compile it myself.
NCDC was not in the repo but avalible as binary from dev.
Kodi was in repo, but broke my install. Aparently there was a guide on how to do it properly.
>>53969019
>no support for most unpopular hardware
Huh?
All my hardware works. what kind of shit hardware doesn't?
>>53969012
No, Microsoft, we're not paranoid. You've proven one too many times that you actually are trolling on /g/. Fuck off.
>>53963543
Truth. Had a conversation with a couple of friends from college yesterday and this came up. Both are gainfully employed engineers and we were discussing OS trends and quality. I was shocked to learn both used W10 because they believed (proprietary = secure) and that (OSS = vulnerable).
>>53969033
>wget xyz
>unpack
>./configure
>make
>make install
Gee, that was hard.
>>53969033
Smplayer isn't a raspi thing? Could have sworn it was a raspi thing.
>>53969109
You are thinking about omxplayer.
>>53969109
No, I've been using it since before the first raspi came out.
>>53969118
That's probably it. There's too many *player video players.
>>53969091
1 fps
>>53959184
Holyshit, nice b8 m8
>>53959184
how it actually is
it doesn't replace happiness from social interaction
after growing up glued to a desktop while everyone else was socialising I'm starting from the bottom to get over my depression and social anxiety
>>53968341
What does thsi graphic represents the fps in a benchmark ? wtf ?
>>53969239
As inaccurate as the original.
>>53969272
RAM usage in MB
>>53969108
Like the first guy said
>I love how little hassle it is to install things to linux AS LONG AS YOU KNOW HOW.
When there's instructions that fit your situation, It's easy, but still a hassle even compared to other OSs.
When there's no fitting instructions, it's just plain hard.
>>53969239
>Made by people who know their shit instead of volunteers...
this is just like saying every single medic in the world that done volunteer work is automatically not a medic anymore, his knowledge got purged and should be avoided.. lmao.
>>53969310
Yes configure, make, make install is so hard compared to "search for program on internet", " find alleged home page for program ", " download alleged installer from alleged home page ", " run alleged installer ", " navigate through maze of toolbars and free offers ", " fail and get malware ", " use allegedly installed alleged program "
Wincucks actually believe this.
>>53968341
>16 gbytes of ram
>hmm enlightenment uses 1mbyte less than lxde i must use that instead
No one will ever be able to see the most advance piece of tech ever created.
>>53969296
Oh but that's not really relevant, what used to be 4 gb many years ago is 16 gb today.
>>53969390
The heaviest WMs also use GPU to draw shit on screen. They make your system work slow, period.
Windows will never be faster than Linux with a light DE.
>>53967377
Look again.
>>53969039
The 840m in my laptop caused a lot of issues with wms and des as arch doesn't have anything to detect which free/proprietary drivers it needs to run correctly, no problems on any other distro.
>>53957486
>>53969413
>Muh 2% performance increase
Go home WMperson. Big DEs don't have a significant impact on performance unless your computer is aging extremely well for its generation.
>>53969413
Well that was obvious but why you said that, it was not that what I was discussion with you.
Your reaction was like Allahu Snackbar.. you know what Islamist's say then explode.
>>53969413
Gnome 3 uses the memory in a good way though, never seen it stutter/hang.
>>53969583
You won't see LXDE do that neither + it's not wasting cpy cycles for no reason other than eye candy ui.
>>53965101
Hold shift when pressing power off.
And blame microsoft for knowing what's best for you.
>>53957486
I know it's stupid as fuck, but that picture made me laugh IRL.
>>53969594
>implying eye candy isn't a good reason
>>53969594
A de should be eye candy, if you don't want eye candy, use a wm.
>>53969351
Now you're just being silly. A comparable linux workflow would then be:
>Try to install via manager
>not avalible, try some other names for it to be sure
>Search for program on the internet
>find alleged home page for program
>Find install instructions for your distro (If avalible)
>Find and install listed dependencies, hopefully with repo if not goto step 2
>Go back and forth, pasting commands to compile
>Fail and google for solutions for 30 minutes
>Use program
>>53964977
More stories please, Anon.
>>53969663
if it takes you over 30 mins to find and install a program on linux if the program as well as dependencies that aren't in your repo you shouldn't be in whatever field of IT you're in as you're clearly fucking incompetent
>>53959204
Objectively better. Remember: you might be on /g/, but the opinions is split on that.
>>53959184
Here, I'll give it a shot:
>games
least
>used in science
if talking about basic sciences, then as much as windows
>just werks
pls stop
>last good version
that's literally the description of stable distros
>flat design
as flat as you want it to be
>>53969785
>>last good version
>that's literally the description of stable distros
stable versus dev/rc builds aren't comparable to windows 7/8.1 vs 10 in the sense of 'last good version'
>>53969714
not that I work in IT but the same can be said for getting adware on windows (on both software choice and the install).
And dodging the adware is a lot easier than trying to find the reasons for things seemingly randomly not working.
>>53957774
I share that feel sometimes
>>53960087
as long as you don't talk audio or wifi, linux pretty much 'just werks'
>>53969649
But not everyone wants to waste time so LXDE is just a window managed that manages windows with lots of features to speed things up.
>>53967644
>Venetica
I liked that game.
I also think she's hot as fuck which is why I played it.
Zero regret completing it.
Patrician taste m8
>>53957774
no, mostly software. Hardware has improved incredibly massively, and software devs react by being more lazy.
>>53967866
the thing about science is pretty right. i use WIN 7 and somtimes on the really old machines like the mastersizer or that spinny cone thing to measure the change in voscosity to shear stress WIN XP still. mostly because i do microbiology and all i need is SPSS and things to take photos down microscopes as "special" applications... i think the tissue culture, pharmacol and chem are all windows based too as we dont need 800 petabytes of ram and flawless efficency.
source: i am science
>>53959184
Windows 10 "Just werks" a hell of a lot more than Linux. It also has an app store now. Linux updates tend to break the shit out of everything, not sure how that gets you excited unless you use Arch and have nothing better to do but fix OS bugs/issues.
>>53967866
Windows 10 is not free unless you can just download as many license keys as you want.
>>53967904
Please stop linking this, you blithering retard. It does not prove anything, only shows how fucking stupid and gullible you are.
>>53965061
You're so full of shit. I have never in my years of using Windows had a driver installer try to push toolbars or antivirus software on me.
>>53965101
PEBKAC
>>53965985
Or perhaps build/maintain the fucking cloud, dipshit.
What is it in Windows that is taking up so much space? IIRC it takes like 8-20 GB for a fresh install and it legitimately has worse out of the box hardware support than GNU/Linux, which is obviously much smaller. So, does this mean that the space taken up by the NT kernel is actually not as large as the space taken up by the Linux kernel? (assuming that hardware support in both is handled by the kernel) and that the large amount of space is for some thing else?
>>53966082
>>unless you use a meme distro like arch that breaks your system every time you update, or gentoo
It's pretty weird how people like you think it's funny to start in-fighting. As someone who's been using Arch for a few months now, I can tell you I've experienced more stability than I did with years of Debian. I will say that I haven't spent a decent amount of time with Fedora/CentOS/RHEL or Slackware or anything else besides Debian-derivatives and Arch, however the moral of the story here is that Arch is neither as unstable nor as hard as people seem to think. The AUR is actually way greater than I had thought. It's always been a major reason people recommend Arch, but I'm still seeing each day how useful it can be. The most obscure shit is in there. If you search for Skype there's even a package to fix the Skype icon not matching the rest of your icon set. It's all easy to install, too.
>>53970187
Updates only break stuff if you're rolling and there's a big update like the GTK3.20 update that just went out.
>>53970450
I wish I knew. On Linux my PCI-e wifi card and onboard Ethernet work ootb. On Windows I have to use USB tethering on my phone or just copy stuff onto my windows partition from my Linux partition. But like you said, somehow Windows is several times as massive, even including a big heavy DE like GNOME.
>>53969605
Wait, seriously? You actually have to hold a key to make it shutdown properly?
>>53970207
He's the type of person who downloads drivers from freedrivers.com
>>53970187
Running Fedora and updates break nothing.
Stop using arch. It does not represent gnu/linux.
>>53965564
I was wondering that as well.
>>53965808
Not true.
Mac OS is a unix-like OS so I don't really understand the hate from other GNU/Linux users. It's a heck of a lot better than Windows.
>>53966028
You'd be surprised how uncommon common sense is.
When you're looking after a network with over 1000 desktops, can you keep an eye on every single USB port?
>>53970512
Sometimes. It's really iffy. My first time installing windows 10 I'd need to shift shutdown to get it to actually shut down, but my second time around that hasn't been necessary. I have no idea what changed.
>>53967671
>You can't count shit that you can just about coax and cajole into getting to the start screen in WINE before they crash as "working in Linux".
Not him, and I don't use WINE at all, but winehq has a rating system for how well things work in WINE. I'm sure he's seriously when he says the games he listed work well.
>>53970535
The problem is Mac OSX is literally a prison for the user.
>>53970535
>Mac OS is a unix-like OS so I don't really understand the hate
Because Apple's main contribution to the tech landscape is turning technology from a useful tool into a fashion accessory for the mindless.
>>53970576
Hi, I'm him. I went one better and only listed things I have personally experienced to work flawlessly. There are a few other games I WINE at times, but they don't work perfectly so I didn't list them. For example, Divinity: Dragon Commander has missing sound, and Fable: The Lost Chapters won't start unless you delete the movie files it tries to play when starting up.
>>53967915
not really
don't get me wrong, I'm in love with stuff like openbox and i3, but the programs and such I'm running are a lot more important
>>53970634
(to clarify I am saying that I use a lot of things that aren't on Windows)
>>53957853
>>you will be obsolete/replaceable real quick
Nah, git gud enough and you'll be fine
>>sometimes you might get skipped on because the other guy sucks up to the boss more / is more social / more ruthless and willing to lie to clients
That's called life, you socially inept fat autistic faggot
>>linux will never be popular because normies hate anything that reminds them they don't know everything / not that smart
Agreed
>>53968966
Arch also just works
>>53957617
>Anon, do you know how to make sites?
>>53970535
b-b-but it made by Apple and apple is for fags...
>>53959184
Windows is used as much as Linux in science. Apple is the one that's very rarely seen.
I am happy to help those who appreciate it most. My sister does. One of my brothers does. The other is a shithead who complains about everything. My father is a pain because he goes into a depressive funk and cries whenever something does not work and phones me but I cannot help him over the phone because of his Parkinson's slurring his speech so I get frustrated and he gets upset. It's 25 miles down the road to go actually sit in front of his PC. Sigh.
>>53957486
>What are some uncomfortable truths about tech?
Women think they understand it.
>>53970963
Ouch that's accurate
>>53957486
Linux never had the chance of have a significant market share because:
1) The distro concept shoot the efforts in the foot
2) Linux in the 90's didn't have a Linux API like Windows or Mac OS. Only in mid 2000's that API began to appear, and still are broken as fuck.
3) Unix wasn't never relevant in the PC anyways. DOS and Mac reigned there.
>>53972288
Anon, there are more Linux installs than any other OS in existence now (think cell phones, video stream box, etc). You are right on #3 though. Most people who really know about computers use Unix related OS (including Linux, FreeBSD, etc), but that obviously is not the majority. The majority just need Fedbook and e-mail.
>>53972288
>Unix never was relevant
My fault.
>>53972355
This doesn't change the fact that Linux sucks and never conquered the platform where it born.
"Nobody is a prophet in his own land" Biblical wisdom at it's finest.
I hope that linux will come to desktop, but I bet that will be in the form of Android and not GNU
>>53972288
>3) Unix wasn't never relevant in the PC anyways.
This desu senpai.
Compatibility ONLY matters when you have majority marketshare. Trying to be compatible with a platform with 0% marketshare is just fucking retarded, or in Apple's case clinging to anything to get away from their own abysmal colossal pile of shit OS.
>>53970268
H O W
I literally didn't do anything with it.
>>53968442
Except I can hook up blender to my rendering cluster.
>>53957617
>graduated high school in 2012
>above average amount of intelligence in computers
>fast forward to last week
>run into girl from high school at the store
>start having a normal conversation with her, legitimately catching up
>out of nowhere she says something like
"hey anon, I've been having issues with my computer at home lately and I was wondering if I could drop it by your house so you could fix it! you used to be so good with computers"
>say no, I'm not tech support
>leave
>>53968332
>windows: pay with personal info, bugs and glitches
>osx: pay with money and personal info, bugs and glitches
>linux: pay with bugs and glitches
FTFY
>>53972521
/thread
>>53972521
And personal info.
>>53969991
I haven't had any problem with sound or wifi on linux but some friends sound cards stopped working with the windows 10 update so i can confirm this depends a lot on the hardware and can happen on windows too.
>>53970187
>It also has an app store now
It does and it's a good thing but how many of the programs the people actually wants to use can be downloaded directly on that store? The store supposedly should be helping people to get their software from a trusted source and instead they're just trying to create an artificial market just to get some revenue. Chocolatey-gui is what it should be bundled by default instead.
>>53972415
Linux isn't for computer dim-wits. It has served me well for 18 years now. I have designed several hundred systems with it and made a good living for all of those years. I'll wager that you don't even know what a computer is used for when it comes to engineering. Your opinion >trash.
>>53972566
>And personal info.
if you're referring to linux please elaborate.
