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NVIDIA SUICIDE WATCH >3,5 fps
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NVIDIA SUICIDE WATCH
>3,5 fps
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>>53932895
>>>>>>>>>>>>/v/
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>>53932905
Man you code monkeys sure do not like games, I wonder if your long work days make you to tired to play them
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>>53933059
People on here don't like vidya because their shit "OS" can't run them.
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>>53933109
This isn't the 90s anymore. Plenty of playable titles on GNU/Linux these days.
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>>53933470
>implying wow is even playable
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>>53933495
You must have a shit computer anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhY64iKl_8I
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>>53933470
>2016
>playing wow
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>>53933536
I'm retarded - posted a Windows link but there are tons of videos on youtube I'm sure you can search.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK6DI55xOmc

>>53933566
Pretty much all dx9 stuff works flawlessly. Yeah it is dated but most of those games still have huge player bases. Linux went from not having anything to having major titles in each genre playable at 60 fps. Even stuff like league of legends works...
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Video games are for plebs. Read a fucking book.
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>>53932895
Same fag thread on /v/
Go back to your containment board
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>>53933470
Nostalrius is dead therefore WoW is dead.
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NVIDIOTS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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>>53933630
Holy...! Almost all of the 8- year old DX 9 works on Linux now?
Well color me impressed!
Won't be much longer now, 40 years tops when you get to indulge yourself in all of these DX 10 titles that came out 5 years ago, friend!
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>>53934262
>Because something is a few years old it is suddenly worthless.

I'm sure you can understand this is different from NO options. Christ, modded gta 4 looks better than stock 5 that millions of console plebs are still buying.

Wine already supports vulkan. Any next gen titles that use it will be able to run in Linux even without an official Linux binary release. Support for dx10 and 11 will continue to grow.

If you want to play everything you clearly need Windows. The difference now is that you can game in Linux - and not just shitty indie crap.
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>video games
Go be a child somewhere else.
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>>53934849
>N-Next year will be the year of the Linux gaming desktop!

No.
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>>53934967
That's not what I'm saying at all. Simply that I have a Gentoo drive and a Windows drive in my gaming PC and rarely ever use the windows drive. It use to be something I had to do. I don't give a fuck what other people use for their OS and clearly agree Windows is best if you want to play literally everything.

The majority of consumers never use anything other than how their products come stock - year of Linux desktop is not coming for a long time, if ever. Most people can't handle 10 minutes of reading to learn how to tweak or install things.
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>>53935143
because why would they spend 10 minutes and then five hours tweaking things when they could have something prepackaged that is better in every way and just werks?
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>>53934849
maybe /r/pcmasterrace is more for you
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Also, note the frame times in the video. Its fucking awful. And I'm not talking about AMD either. Nvidia is the one with the absolute horrid frame times with this one.
Link to original source since OP never posted it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK2BUeYqLVI
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>>53933630
Does Artificial Academy 2 run on it?
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>>53932895
>Comparing the framerate of an explosion being rendered in game to one with nothing happening.

Kek.
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>>53935161

Which is why year of Linux desktop will not happen. Do you realize we are in agreement?

If your asking why I do it, it is pretty simple. I like Linux and can now game in it. I have already have more games than I'll ever play that work with it.

>>53935162

I left Reddit around the time they started closing subreddits. Pcmr was just a hardware circle jerk anyway. I think there was a Linux gaming subreddit that would be more applicable.

>>53934876

Why is it hard to understand it is possible to be an adult that games. This is simply what happens when you don't have children of your own. That whole time to install Gentoo as well....
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>>53935255
Look at the graph
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Wow Nvidia sure is getting shittier now
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>>53935161
You really don't need to spend any time configuring stuff if you don't use something like gentoo.

>Prepackaged and just works
Isn't windows the one where you have to get a million third party programs because the native ones are all crap?
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>>53933470
But I don't want to play super tux racer
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rocking Nitro 390 since Jan, happy as fuck
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>>53935419
No?
Windows comes as a near blank slate, it takes one minute to install the basic programs and then 30 seconds from thereon if you ever need something else installed.

Unlike linux where you can use .5% of programs and those you can take hours to install.
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>>53932895
DELETE THIS!!!
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>>53932895
notify me when there is a game with good graphics that doesnt suck my nuts
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>>53932895
It looks minimally different compared to the xbox one. Its just another shitty console port
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>>53932895
You're a big card.
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>>53932895
>completely different scenes get different framerates
Wow, it's fucking nothing! Now go back to /v/.
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>>53936230
3.5u
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>>53933536
Implying the shittiest computer cant run that turd looking game
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>>53935753
>Unlike linux where you can use .5% of programs
[Citation needed]
>and those you can take hours to install.
pacman -S  Deluge

That sure was hard.

I primarily use Windows, but you're a special kind of stupid if you think that package managers are worse than manually looking up every program to see if it has updated like you need to do on Windows.
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>>53936275
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Down and down do Nvidia tears flow.
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>>53936230
>>53936275
We already did this before
Stop same fagging for replies
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>>53936927
The shitty console port designed by microsoft who works hand and hand with AMD
The console port which was designed for AMD APUs work better on AMD card
Fuck who would've thought
>inb4 nvidiot
I own a 390x, I'm just using common sense.
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>>53937472

So I guess its mere conincidence basically every DX12 game works better on AMD huh?
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>>53936339
You mean every application has the ability to update itself.
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>>53937421
sup hothead
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>>53937508
Many do at this point, but not all. And a package manager would solve that issue entirely.
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>>53937492
>Hitman
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90 > 70, of course cheaper gpus will be slower
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>>53937525

Try this - especially given the devs have gone on record saying they have worked more with Nvidia than AMD during development.
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>>53937492
Those games are all consoles ports and all consoles run AMD hardware, I'm not even a game myself beside playing Killing Floor and I even know this much.
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>>53937492
>GM200 is superior to Fiji in almost every single metric
>loses to a fucking Tahiti rebrand
I smell bullshit, and lots of it
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>>53937582
> 8,602 GFLOPS vs 5,632 GFLOPS
>4,096 bit vs 384 bit
> 4,096 vs 2,816 shading units
>256 vs 176 Texture mapping units
>96 GPixel/s vs 67.2 GPixel/s pixel rate

>Still only wins by 5FPS in a low level API.


AMD is just fundamentally fucked.
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>>53937582
I knew the next game you would show was gonna be that
Who the fuck plays ashes of the singularity
"look with card with ayysink compute does better than the one without"
Fuck, plot twist
There isn't a DX12 game out that isn't bought by Nvidia or AMD that puts them on proper playing fields. It's been stated that devs don't want to work with async compute as it is too hard to work with.
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>>53937643
This. By all means, the Fury X should have walked all over the 980 Ti, but it's being matched and beaten at every other update.
AMD is incompetent to such a hilarious degree now.
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>>53937620

Some DX11 results are not pretty.

>>53937643

You can't compare different architectures likes that. Even kepler to maxwell isn't directly comparable.
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>>53937582
>Has an apparently "better" card
>Still going bankrupt
wew lad
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>>53937492
A 390 on dx12 beats a 390x on dx11? Fugg
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>>53937643
>nividiot cucks paying more for LESS
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>>53937670
Blacks OPS 3 was fixed I can run it at above 100FPS on my GTX 970 now, still very CPU bound I could hit 120 if I had a better CPU without a doubt.
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>>53937670
Nvidia fag here
I think once the res goes up to 4k the 980ti doesn't have as large of an upper hand. they get pretty close to each other.
prove me wrong though
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>>53937716

As a rule the fury x beats a reference clocked 980ti at 4k.
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>>53937707
>Fury X (4gb)- 569 USD
>980ti (6gb)- 549 USD
Source-Amazon
Inb4
>I can get it for 500 on this shady website
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>>53937746
How is this measured and in what?
Benchmarks? No shit fury x is going to do better
Show gaym performance
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>>53937716
Not wrong but sub 30FPS is unplayable so both cards are virtually worthless at that resolution, at 1080p and 1440p the GTX 980Ti wins.
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>>53937754
I don't know where the fuck you found a 980 Ti for that price on Amazon because the cheapest model is $600
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>let find a game who suck with the nvidia cards
>quantum break
>go on /g/
>shitposting

>let find a game who suck with the amd cards
>project cars
>go on /g/
>shitposting

okay go away kid
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>>53937770

>website listed
>card reviewed highlighted on chart

>duurrr wut is this?

Google holds the answers you seek.
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>>53937806

>prjoect cars

It doesn't suck as much as you think according to hardocp.
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>>53937786
Also this is a Nvidia reference GTX 980Ti at obviously reference clocks

The Fury X is a PowerColor R9 Fury X at stock clocks.

The R9 290X 4GB at stock Uber

The GTX 970 GALAX factory clocks (1164MHz/7010MHz with 1430MHz boost on this sample)
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>>53937832
>cf and sli
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>>53937649
I bet devs will start working with async compute once Volta comes out.
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>>53937832
Everyone knows SLI is trash and CF isn't
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>>53937882
Yeah good luck running that at 4K with only one 970
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>>53937957

The console guys are pushing the implementation of the feature quite aggressively.

>>53937971

/g/ told me Nvidia is superior to AMD no matter what.
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>>53937989
>buy a 970/390 for 4k
>not retarded

Even with the SLI/CF you can't hit average 45 FPS...
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>>53937990
Even NVIDIA shills aren't so delusional to think CF doesn't scale better than SLI and that SLI has changed in any significant way in the last decade and a half.
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>>53937814
The website does not explain how the "performance" is measured
They just say each card at 100%
They might as well be pulling the number out of their ass
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Lots of quality autism in here
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>>53937957
It's too hard to work with
Not worth the energy unless they are given money from AMD but they are broke so that won't happen
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>>53932895
>buying a 390/970
>2016
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>>53938061

Are you retarded? 100% is the baseline of the reference card tested over their suite of games. Thus how much slower/faster other cards are in relation to the reference card are represented by the percentages.

Its all very simple.
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>>53937990
>the console guys
No just the console users, which is what I think you are reffering to. Console kiddies are illiterate on hardware and just think "ayysink with give us 300+ FPS and 4k grayphics"
When in reality it really won't help consoles at all, maybe two or three less dropped frames
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>>53937957
I doubt it will stick, async is only useful because AMD GPU's are idling most the time so with async they can be put to work, doubt AMD is going to continue this trend it would be stupid to do so with Polaris but you never know with AMD, also if they do and async become the norm it will be need to become a hardware standard without possibility to improve or you will get performance huge penalty from doing the same tasks in lesser hardware.
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It this game was made by goyworks Nvidia would be 100% faster than AMD.
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>>53938105

Some first party ps4 titles use a lot of async compute to cover up the potato cpu (well, it is an APU with a stupidly low TDP to be fair). Killzone liberation is pretty heavy on it iirc which allows to squeeze the gpu dry while the cpu is being retarded.

Even stepping away from that the whole concept of async compute isn't new - the fact AMD has pushed it aggressively is a good thing for all. If it allows unused gpu resources to be used while other parts of the card are slammed (such as the shaders) you will see less pipeline stalls.

Nvidia have been ripping parts out of their cards and throwing it into software explicitly because they achieve very high utilisation of their gpus through driver tuning. Its a factor into why you see Nvidia cards dying a painful death in benchmarks where Nvidia haven't put a driver out. Not to say that AMD is exempt from this either, but the rule of any tech is hardware trumps software and GCN has dedicated hardware for async compute.
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>>53938187
No, nvidia would be gimped as well
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>>53938101
Still not going to trust it
No sources, no games listed, no settings listed, no nothing
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>>53938855

Read the fucking site you pleb. The chart posted is just a summary from the suite.

Start here: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_980_Ti_XtremeGaming/5.html
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>>53938087
Are those not good enough anymore?
I haven't been keeping up with what parts are good for many years since I've been broke but now I might get a job very soon and was hoping to finally have a good gaming pic but the graphics cards are so damned expensive.
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>>53935753
>windows comes as a near blank slate
In around 4 years of /g/, this is the dumbest statement I have read here.
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>>53935382
You mean the one with no indication of elapsed time?
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You don't have to be a rocket science monkey to know that DX12 only works on AMD
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>>53942661
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>>53942670
Typical nvidia shill
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>>53939696
R9 390 is fine and will continue to be fine (for 1080p) at least until Volta/TBA AMD. Don't bother with Polaris or Pascal, as they're both shit.
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>>53944839
What about 380? 390 is just so expensive.
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>>53939696
It's performance from 2014 for $300,it's fine 11080p-1440p for now and will last for along time until we get games engines that push these card to the edge again.Noticed that while these card were being made game engines like U4 were being put out so the hardware spec is there.
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>>53945229
You'll be alright
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>>53932895
>AMD can't even render colors
this is why I will never buy AMD. Their drivers are bad
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>>53933470
It's funny beacuse of all the games you could have mentioned that are playable on Linux, WoW is literally the one that runs the worst

>Needs WINE, doesn't run natively
>OpenGL results in everything looking like shit
>DirectX 9 results in everything still mostly looking like shit but more importantly everything now being 5 fps

I use Gentoo as my main OS and I had to dual boot into Windows when I was still playing WoW, just because the WINE experience was so subpar.
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>>53933470
15 fps is not playable
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>>53936927
With frame times like those everybody should be crying. Unless you don't know fuck-all about what you're talking about, then I guess you could feel like you've won something.
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>>53932895
>video games are for children
>but chinese cartoons with actual children are okay

ok fags whatever you say
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>>53934876
As soon as you turn 20, you are required to be a stoic, joyless office rat.
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>>53946351
Pretty much, otherwise you're a loser.
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>>53945615
>paid ms shills
I told you to leave
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>>53932895
Lower FPS is better. When will AMD stop improving their graphic cards?
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>>53945523
I raided WOD for months as a resto shaman. 60 fps and all that without top of the line hardware. Wow was one of the easier programs to make work with wine - copy folder from Windows drive and launch.
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>>53948742
I raided MoP and WoD as an arcane mage. 60 fps at 4K with tweaked above-ultra settings on a GTX 970.

On wine I got like 5 fps out of DirectX mode, and like 40 fps + shitty visuals out of OpenGL mode.
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>>53948765
Did you enable CSMT? This was included in wine staging. Only thing I can think of that would cause that type of performance difference. I'm 970 4670k. Think I was 1080p at the time for wod but 1440 playing on vanilla free shards now.
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>>53948790
Are you playing in OpenGL or DirectX mode? If you don't know, don't bother replying
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>>53948812
directx of course - cant you tell from the screenshot? It has been months since I played on live servers - keep in mind this is a vanilla client.

This is nothing new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lxU0WCN7h4
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Bump for year of AMD
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>amdrones arguing posting shitty benchmarks results or average fps in games no one will ever play, and / or are know for they terrible optimization

>lel amd gets 12.7 fps at 68456*56132 resolution while nvidia only gets 8.4 fps

thats literally it

pathetic, the worst thing is that I doubt people who post that shit over and over arent even shills, they're just that retarded
scary shit desu
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>>53933470
Osu just werks on my arch instalation.
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>>53950688
AMD cards are clearly better due to superior architecture as well as being more future proof with better high res performance and the widespread adoption of DX12 by game developers. Things will only get better for AMD users who have made the smart investment and resisted marketing hype.

Enjoy your 3.5GB and lower fps.
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>>53950810
>widespread adoption of DX12 by game developers
Windows 10 is gonna kill DX12 the same way Vista killed DX10
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>>53950688
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ITT: People not realizing Vulkan is cross-platform and therefore more likely to be adopted than DX12.
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>>53951015

The downside is vulkan is effectively a year behind DX12 as far as availability goes. We are unlikely to see true vulkan games until late 2016/early 2017.

Still vulkan has one enorm ous advantage over DX12: it lets you ditch your DX11 path entirely as you need not give a fuck about OS.
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>>53946430
He's right - performance on Linux is not up to scratch with Windows for gaming. That's just a fact.
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>>53951073
Yup and we're in an age where portability is critical.
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Top kek.

How do you fuck up this bad?

Poor performance, UWP limitations, crashing Nvidia drivers - and a 50fps limit on 60Hz monitors. This isn't good.

I would say that 90% of gamers still use a 60hz monitor.
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>>53936434
Don't hate me but would you by chance happen to have been posting in the Dark Souls 3 steam discussions lately?
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>>53951089
When you compare apples to apples, performance is the same.

Windows DX11 vs Linux OpenGL: DX11 wins
Windows OpenGL vs Linux OpenGL: Equal performance

That's why Linux people are anxious about Vulcan. Time will tell if people actually adopt it and bother to make Linux ports.
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>>53951015
ITT: People think cross-platform matter
ITT: People think Vulkan runs on all platforms when it doesn't even have Mac support
ITT: People think Vulkan will be adopted on Windows when Windows has DX12 already.
ITT: People think Vulkan will be adopted since DX12 is 10 only when on Steam Windows 10 has a higher usage rating than 7.
YFW: Windows 10 adoption has been steadily increasing since its release thanks to it being pseudo "free."
YFW: Gamers embrace the botnet mostly since its a "free" upgrade
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>>53951158
I've not had any equal performance on Linux, even with OpenGL. That said, that could be because NVIDIA have utterly shit drivers on Linux, which doesn't help...
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>>53933470
>that chat
top kek
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>>53951167

>ITT: People think Vulkan will be adopted on Windows when Windows has DX12 already.

You do realise both AMD and Nvidia have vulkan support in their drivers? Chances are you already have vulkan supporting drivers on your system right now.
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>>53937545
1/10 made me reply.
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>>53932895
>different scenes
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>>53933470
>2016
>wow
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>>53952812
https://youtu.be/zK2BUeYqLVI?t=141
Now what, fuckboi
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>>53935753
>Windows comes with 20 GB of spyware
FTFY
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>>53953361
>horrible frame times on both cards
lose-lose situation desu
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>>53953307
I play more American Truck Simulator than anything else. Over 100 hours logged so far.
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>>53935440
I know this is b8 but I'll bite anyway.

Linux has over 25% of the steam catalog and IIRC like 40% of the top 100 most played games on steam. In my library I can play under linux is the entire bioshock series, borderlands 2, spec ops: the line, dishonored, skyrim, Fable: The Lost Chapters, and a ton more that I don't have the money to buy.
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>>53932895
>3,5 fps
Well? Which is it? 3 or 5?
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>>53935753
>it takes one minute to install the basic programs
Faggot it takes you a minute just to find and download the latest version of firefox. Under linux you just sudo apt-get every one of those basic programs and leave to grab a coffee while they're all automatically downloaded and installed for you.

>take hours to install
are you using gentoo or some crap? you know that's a meme right?
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>>53942670
>he also locked himself into nvidia by buying an overpriced g-sync display

Nvidiots never cease to be a source of amusement.
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>>53950918
>Windows 10 is gonna kill DX12 the same way Vista killed DX10

Too bad Windows 10 is already the most used OS on Steam. It's already over, Microsoft (and by extension, AMD) has won.

http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-64-bit-now-most-used-os-steam-pc-gamers
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